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3 жыл бұрын

Tasmota and ESPHome, together with Home Assistant (Hassio) are covered in many videos for Home Automation. Most of them concentrate on flashing and integrating readily available devices and sensors. But which framework is better also for our do-it-yourself sensors, for ESP32 boards, and for deep-sleep? Tasmota or ESPhome? Or none? You will know the answer at the end of the video
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@TheHookUp 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video, pretty much the same conclusions I've come to: 1. Tasmota is easy and works really well for pre-defined products 2. ESPHome can allow non-programmers to get a "good enough" configuration for their home built projects, but if you already know how to write code in Arduino you are probably still better off writing your own custom firmware. For the OTA tasmota deep sleep on the roof problem: Send an MQTT message with retain, that way when Tasmota wakes up the next time it will grab that message and prevent deep sleep. After you make your update just send a blank retained message to that MQTT topic to clear it out.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

I saw the trick with the MQTT message and I thought I mentioned it in the video. The only problem is that I have to wait until it wakes up the next time. This is no problem if it is every 10 minutes... I assume not many people use these frameworks with deep-sleep. Otherwise, maybe somebody would have included this function into the administration: MQTT message sleep off, OTA, MQTT message sleep on... But anyway, I do not update my running devices that often.

@fuzzie4755 3 жыл бұрын

@@AndreasSpiess The only way to shorten the deepsleep is an external reset switch that you can reach. Maybe coupled with the deepsleep switch I mentioned above. To have no access to the device during the deepsleep is the nature of this feature. You can use rules to check is there is a new OTA update and go for this. But this will increase the uptime again and does not make sense in my mind.

@tfdsu 3 жыл бұрын

@@AndreasSpiess, true, you can *deep-sleep.prevent* *on_message* and it's generally always good thing to *fast_connect: true*, unless you have really complex Wi-Fi roaming.

@rcampbellbassac 3 жыл бұрын

I like the way you covered these two very thoroughly. Thanks for this video!

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@Inspironator 3 жыл бұрын

Me too.

@maxvandenberk7506 3 жыл бұрын

You are drawing me in to creating my own sensors and actuators for my home. The structured way you explain things is very helpful. Many thanks!

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

@dl8cy 3 жыл бұрын

Nice to see that the weekly publishing is back ... thanks for the video

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

You are welcome! The holiday are over ;-)

@martyewise 3 жыл бұрын

Very nice, as always, and precisely relevant to my current project. Thanks again.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Glad to read that it helped. I had this since quite some time on my list. It is always good if you know such things before you start to program...

@hansratzingerselbstandiger9786 Күн бұрын

Thank you Andreas! Again a great video! In the current version of ESPHome (2024.6.6) there are now four different methods availabel to flash the device. 1. via Network 2. plug USB in your PC 3. plug USB in your HomeAssistant-Server eg. Rasperry Pi 4. manual download (as you referred in the video at 10:10)

@AndreasSpiess Күн бұрын

You are right. Things became easier.

@fredflintstone8048 3 жыл бұрын

I wanted to take a moment to thank you for making this video. I'm running HA in a virtualbox VM at the moment while I await my pi to arrive. You provided some key information that I could not find in other videos regarding getting the first binary into my NodeMCU so that I can continue with OTA uploads. All the other videos had demos of ESPHome Add-on having ESPHome-Flash built in, which mine doesn't. You pointed me in the right direction with the download binary, and I found ESPHome-Flash executable for windows on the web and downloaded it.. All went well after that.. This NOOB thanks you very much for that, as well as the comparison which helped me to know what kind of options I have for working with these devices. I too have been writing code in C++ in the Arduino IDE for my ESP8266s and Arduinos for years doing all sorts of projects, some with web front ends. I'm just now starting to come up to speed in the world of Home Assistant, MQTT, and this way of building applications for integration of many devices not wanting to reinvent the wheel that so many others have worked so hard to build, and nicely.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. You find also other videos about this topic on the channel...

@TonyPowell_Munich 3 жыл бұрын

Andreas, very much appreciate your content. Learned a lot on this one!

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@chellalialhcen Жыл бұрын

Woooow it's really a great work. Thank you so much for this detailed long video.😊❤

@AndreasSpiess Жыл бұрын

My pleasure 😊

@fibranijevidra 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Andreas. Fantastic analysis and presentation as always.

@AndreasSpiess 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@eerorossi 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your excellent videos Andreas! Did not know about tasmota-display, but now I know✌

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

I never used it, I just saw it during the making of this video

@Michaelguaylambert 3 жыл бұрын

I tried both. ESPHome is much more powerfull. You can do data treatment on the device itself before sending it to Home Assistant and avoid ugly data entering Home Assistant.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Also an interesting aspect. Thanks for mentioning

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's actually very useful for noisy and unreliable sensors!

@olafschermann1592 3 жыл бұрын

Great comparison. Thank you for all your research work and sharing.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@aeljandro2 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Andreas, thanks for all these videos. I've learned a lot from you. You're a good teacher. 👍👍👍🦾

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the compliment!

@BachtiarDwi 3 жыл бұрын

Wow! a very comperhensive comparison, thanks Sir!

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

@WacKEDmaN 3 жыл бұрын

very nice and concise video Andreas..keep at it mate!

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do!

@JohnCookNet 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your observations. Well done Sir!

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

@domenicopalomba 3 жыл бұрын

As usual the scientific attitude in measuring based on real facts! Nicely done Andreas! I think an intermediate layer between ARdiuno IDE and tools like EspHome and Tasmota is the microPython. Flexible and simple enough at the same time...

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

That was my idea when I made the video about it. But read once the comments :-(

@VolkerKtnbch 3 жыл бұрын

Very good video. Saved me a lot of time researching

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped

@richard_wenner 3 жыл бұрын

I've huge respect for the hours of work that must have gone on in the background, that allows you to display this level of experience! Well done GWTSA :) (Not my best English sentence :) )

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

The video became a little longer than anticipated. But I was without ghost this week. So it was no problem. I had to look up GWTSA. Google said: Gamma-Weighed Two-Stream Approximation ;-)

@richard_wenner 3 жыл бұрын

@@AndreasSpiess I'm never without my Gamma Weighted Two Stream Approximation but it will not be too long before it switches to 'guy with ....' as a tribute :)

@mr.anonymous298 7 ай бұрын

You are really a great teacher, sir. I appreciate your efforts.

@AndreasSpiess 6 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@javierguerrerob 3 жыл бұрын

Excelent work Andreas!

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you like it!

@TradieTrev 3 жыл бұрын

Both projects are great IMO!; It gets you balls deep into the software engineering process. Learning the rules / automations really makes a device smart.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

I had to do it for a device for my brother. But I needed help. It was too complicated for me :-(

@p1366 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Andreas, very clear and understandable video. Your videos are still the best in the business!. My favorite is Tasmota, this is where I learned all about MQTT. Tasmota documentation is also very high quality. I use my Tasmota devices with Hass.io, I really like that, as well as controlling a Tasmota device with a controller (Hass.io) you can make your device work autonomously with rules, so if the device becomes isolated from the controller, it can still be useful with working with its own rules-based "automatons" . P

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I also found the Tasmota documentation very useful. However, rules are not easy for a beginner ;-)

@going_somewhere1882 3 жыл бұрын

if I could I'll hit to like your video ten times. Very informative!

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@klassichd10 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great comparision. I use the old fashion method for the most of my ESP-based sensors. But I also tested Tasmota for sonoffs. ESPEasy for a simple S0 counter and ESHome for a CO2 sensor, because only here I could switch off the autocalibration of the CO2 sensor and could easily use an ESP32. All are running stable. BTW, the coolest sensor is the MLX90614ESF Far IR sensor. Using this and ambient temp , I calculate the cloudage. Helpful an unusual.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Interestingly you mention the MLX90614. I have one here, but not in the box "IR sensors" because I bought it as a temperature sensor ;-) I definitively have to try this one. Thanks.

@klassichd10 3 жыл бұрын

@@AndreasSpiess Yes, that is correct, it is a contactless temp sensor using the IR Radiation of an object.. Max Planck's groundbreaking finding and formula shows the realtionship to temp. I insert the sensor in a cable gland, facing it directly to the sky. no glass or anything else. in front of it

@klassichd10 3 жыл бұрын

Btw: I wrote more on the topic of measureing cloudage in ioBroker Forum and Homematic Forum forum.iobroker.net/topic/32195/himmelstemperatur-bew%C3%B6lkung-scheibenvereisung and homematic-forum.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=40624&start=20#p574687

@pambucol 3 жыл бұрын

You have really fantastic videos.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

@stefanf.5439 3 жыл бұрын

I saw esp home some weeks ago, and had not the time to read deeply into it. Thanks for the overview.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

@BradNagelBagel 3 жыл бұрын

Great Video! Thank You

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@andrewlhoover 3 жыл бұрын

Great side-by-side video. I think you definitely captured the fundamental pros and cons of each. Personally, I think of tasmota as excellent control software (button, switch, relay devices) and ESPHome as very good data collection software (sensor nodes). I still primarily write my own software for many of my devices but have found that if I want to control something or get simple data, I gravitate to one of these two.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

So I think we are in line...

@tonysfun 3 жыл бұрын

I'm learning something new every time I watch Andreas!!! Andreas, you put smile in my heart and brain and I learn and learn more and more! Thank you for your hard work. (PS: I was under the Corona with my wife, so it took little time out of learning - that was the hardest part! Now we are like new again!)

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

I hope everything went well! It seems that younger people generally suffer less. And now you are most probably immune, which is a good thing.

@tonysfun 3 жыл бұрын

@@AndreasSpiess At 65 I'm in the zone where it could go either way, but despite many other health problems it was "doable" and I didn't need any special medicine. If they would give me the same stuff as to the President Trump, I think I would take it. But it was like a cold and ZINC and lots of water and little food with apples and oranges helped also. Thank you very much Andreas!!!

@tonysfun 3 жыл бұрын

@@AndreasSpiess You are right, but once your age is over 65, it takes a long time to regain just most of your previous energy and brain! I'm glad not much damage so far, but it keeps testing you weeks and weeks after your main symptoms and temperature are gone.

@guatagel2454 3 жыл бұрын

If it weren't for Andreas' videos, I would never have dared to enter the world of ESPs. Now I make my own boards from ESP12F modules, both solar and battery powered. Thank you!

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Great! I am glad I had a positive impact.

@fluffyblue4006 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video. I've chosen for Tasmota already, because I don't use Home Assistant and I wanted a GUI. And for the devices I wanted to setup, the available tutorials and how-to's seemed easier to do in Tasmota. But the biggest plus for me is that Tasmota already is prepared for talking to the Domoticz home automation. ESP-Easy was mentioned in the comments. This project follows the Tasmota route: it has a webgui for adding sensors and you can use rules. There are also different firmwares for sets of devices. And you would give 0.5 points to the deep-sleep-functionality. As far as I know: no ESP32 support. Thank you for pointing out Tasmota-Admin. I will definitely look into that. Unfortunately, none of these are suitable for a remote control: battery-operated and immediate response on a push of a button. There's always the time needed for connecting WiFi. I am currently using ready-made 433MHz stuff for that. An RrxTrx433 directly connected to the Domoticz and 'klik-aan-klik-uit'-devices. Could this be solved with LORA? I'm curious for the response time. I think that you are familiar with my problem: my wife says that the light should turn on immediately when clicking the switch.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

I added mySensors to the list of a future review particularly because its 433MHt support...

@mulroneyp 3 жыл бұрын

HiAndreas. Love your work! I like you and many others use both ESPHome and Tasmota, it depends on the use case. One thing I would point out for ESPHome is that if you are using Wemos D1 Mini, NodeMCU or TTGO ESP32 Cams you can use a standard micro USB to upload your ESPHome config. Just plug the USB into the Home Assistant Host and restart the ESPHome Add-On. Then you will see something like /dev/ttyUSB0 (USB2.0 - Serial) as an option for upload. This helps avoid the need for connecting jumpers to a UART connector. After that it is easy to do OTA updates.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

As mentioned: In my case it was a Docker customizing which prevented USB upload (I used IOTstack).

@wassfila 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent content, thanks for the informative video. Both Tasmota and ESP Home are winners as they help the DIY community have more choices, which help look at the same problem from different perspectives. Maybe in the future we could look at this sensors abstraction from scripting perspective ? Python and Javascript on microcontrollers ?

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe these languages will get their space also on micros. Till then we have to select between C++ and libraries or frameworks like the ones shown here.

@timfoster5043 8 ай бұрын

Good analysis. Thanks.

@AndreasSpiess 8 ай бұрын

You are welcome!

@Mr4yda4ok 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. Previously I have used balena os for pi(grafana, mqtt, db and custom application for data processing etc) and mongoose os for esp, found it pretty easy to use. Now want to try ESPhome.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

It should nicely fit into your Pi tools (I made my tests with node-red).

@PeterPan-yu7pe 3 жыл бұрын

Greart and informative video, as usual!! At 9:42, you describe, that only OTA is available. I found on my RPI4 that when I connect the ESP to the USB connector of the RPI and then restart the ESPHome service in Home Assistant, the board will show up in ESPHome and I can Choose betwenn OTA and USB update. With this method, I can program virgin Boards directly from Home Assistant

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, with HA it is possible.

@serranoduranmanuel 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video!

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@terrentech 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent video. Please do it again, updated for a current comparison. THANKS!

@AndreasSpiess 2 жыл бұрын

So far I have no such plans. But you never know ;-)

@MartinKL 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! very informative

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@albertroswell 2 жыл бұрын

thanks for the video!

@AndreasSpiess 2 жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

@erich7431 Жыл бұрын

Hi Andreas, first off, thanks again and again for all the content you are delivering. There's been significant development lately around both Tasmota and ESPHome. I would really love having a follow up video including those feature and your updated ranking. Also I have heard about ESPEasy but did not have time to have a deeper look. Looks like more an easy & straightforward way to integrate ESPxx...but probably not for the advanced users....

@AndreasSpiess Жыл бұрын

Because I changed to Home Assistant, I usually use ESPhome. It is good enough for most cases. I think, the differences between the two platforms became very small. HA users will use ESPhome because it is so easy to setup. And the rest uses Tasmota (because it is so easy to setup) ;-) But the next video will be about another specialized platform: OpenMQTTGateway. You will see, why.

@erich7431 Жыл бұрын

@@AndreasSpiess looking forward to it thanks !

@indigonils 3 жыл бұрын

Very well done overview! I've tried Tasmota a little bit, but found it harder to understand, and ESPhome covers my needs so far. But it's good to know how the two differ. Maybe I'll need Tasmota for something in the future. Thanks! Protip: ESPhome (in Docker) can upload over usb, but you need to first connect your ESP device to the computer running ESPhome, and then restart the ESPhome container. Then you should be able to select something like /dev/ttyUSB0 instead of OTA. (On Linux, I don't know about Windows.) And you can run the ESPhome dashboard without HA, if you install ESPhome manually with the "getting started through command line" guide. So it's not as straight forward, but possible.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

1. I assume it depends on the docker setup if you can use USB. I used IOTstack 2. As mentioned the video I tried to set it up but, as a Linux noob, I gave up after a while :-(

@electromatic138 3 жыл бұрын

Great Scott released a video on esphome today. What a coincidence.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

I saw it, too. Amazing.

@ronaldhofman1726 3 жыл бұрын

One can do a request to the tasmota developers to add a sensor it is frequently updated, that's really good!

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Good to know...

@dragosadriananton 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for video, really appreciate it. One important think: how are both integrate with HA, at this point I will give a point to EspHome as it have direct integration with HA. Tasmota is using a middleman, MQTT, to do this job.

@jackhoffman6120 3 жыл бұрын

You never cease to amaze me. Like a heroin addict I am a "knowledge addict". So just like a junkie on the streets of Amsterdam who strolls the streets (That's what they used to do in the 90's. Perhaps Amsterdam has become more genteel these days.) for their next hit, I troll the internet for my drug. Unexpectedly I discover your KZfaq "hit of knowledge" just as a junkie might find a loaded syringe to feed their addiction, your video satisfied my addiction for knowledge just now. This video was very interesting and drove home how difficult it is to keep up with technology. As soon as I begin to believe that I might understand a subject, I come to the realisation how little I really know. Your videos lay the foundation for further research. I often stop your video mid stream because unintentionally you mention one little thing (such as Adafruit's I2C addresses info in this video) and I'm off making "research notes". Keep pushing your "drugs". There's plenty of addicts out there who need them. I'm sure the next "hit" is going to be as good as the last.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your nice words. I usually have people like you in mind when I create my videos. I invest some time and you get a quick overview, but not wothout some details.

@josefleyva_xizuth 3 жыл бұрын

Your English is very clear, Hi from Mexico

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@TZ500J 3 жыл бұрын

As usual nice video :-) There is another good project especially for esp8266, called ESPeasy. There are a lot of sensors, displays etc. supported

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the hint. I will have a look at it.

@LarryKapp1 3 жыл бұрын

Yes that is the one I have used - here is more info www.letscontrolit.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=1

@TZ500J 3 жыл бұрын

or here ;-) www.letscontrolit.com/wiki/index.php?title=ESPEasy

@PhG1961 3 жыл бұрын

@@LarryKapp1 Thnxs Larry ! It looks interesting !

@TD-er 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for pointing it out :) @Andreas Spiess, I am the maintainer of ESPEasy, so if you run into things, you can always ask. I will now continue watching your videos, to hopefully learn something myself as I usually do from your videos. @TZ500J, the ESP32 is also supported, even with Ethernet if you need it. Just a few more links: github.com/letscontrolit/ESPEasy ReadTheDocs: espeasy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

@dougwilkinson4624 3 жыл бұрын

I started using Tasmota after I lost IFTTT support for my lightbulbs and smartplugs. Using Tuya-convert made this possible. I went with Tasmota by default and like it so far, but have not used ESPHome or ESPEasy yet (I was too afraid of bricking my lights/plugs to explore much). As someone who has written code using Arduino/libraries for sensors/automation and then again in micropython, I was hesitant to use a framework, but didn't have a choice on these limited devices. I'll still use my own code for those things that require a more custom approach, but it's nice to let someone else worry about bug fixes for some things! And some things are just not possible with micropython for timing reasons (like IRremote) which I have to say works very well with Tasmota at least. I do as much using micropython as possible. Also use MQTT with HASS in docker. Thanks Andreas for the video and nudge to look at some of the other options!

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing your experience. IFTTT seems to go "pro" and "paid" anyway...

@mibols 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great video. I have not heard of tasmoadmin before. I use tasmota most often (also because of tuya-convert of several Gosund SP111 power monitor plugs). Also ESPeasy for an S0 counter.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

@icedguy 3 жыл бұрын

Man , you are the best!

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

:-)

@wouladjecabrelwen1006 3 жыл бұрын

You are so amazing teacher

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! 😃

@GodzillazzZ 3 жыл бұрын

i love Tasmota.. thx for great info sir

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure

@randyarrasmith2013 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. All your videos are great. I did want to add to this one though: you gave a point to Tasmota in the section that discussed the OTA as the only option for ESPHome on initial flash and as a work around had to download the binary and use the flasher. Actually that is how I do it too but only because the computer running ESPHome is upstairs for me. If on the same computer running Docker, simply map the usb port to the docker container (or run in privileged mode). Then the USB device will be in the dropdown as well. Believe you also said that Tasmota has a nice one place to see all Tasmota devices but ESPhome does not, yet you show the page where the OTA drop down is which shows all the devices. It is for this reason I use a custom panel to being ESPHome in home assistant so I can see all esp devices in one place. So, anyway, just those 2 minor things I wanted to comment on. Going either route (Tastmota vs ESPhome) is 50/50 in most cases and probably will remain that way. I like ESPHome, especially being able to use any arduino library to make a custom component or even write my own.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

You are right with Docker. I used IOTstack and it is not implemented there. Maybe they will change it in the future. It was not a big deal for me. Concerning TasmotaAdmin: I said that it shows much more information.

@ByWire-yk8eh 3 жыл бұрын

I've never made the Tasmota firmware work reliably on any of the multiple hardware platforms I have. They hang. However, most of the more recent (a year or more) Arduino ESP8266 WiFi Server examples seem to be very reliable. I've had one that controls a single relay work perfectly for about 6 months straight. Same hardware I tried with Tasmona. But I must say I had two extended power outages (two hours and ten hours), and after power was restored, it came back up without any intervention. Also, I have another ESP8266 WiFi Server that controls 20 GE Low Voltage relays, and it's worked perfectly for about 3 months so far.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing your experience. Fortunately I do not have a lot of power outages here...

@JAAPOP8 3 жыл бұрын

I like to think we're of the same age and we probably have similar backgrounds in education and profession. I'm sure we share the same interests and hobbies. You always impress me by being so productive and skilled in the field. Today again! Thank you for sharing!

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

You are welcome! I am 64, a trained EE with a PhD in Business Administration. An interest in computers and RF...

@JAAPOP8 3 жыл бұрын

@@AndreasSpiess Here is why I said ".. I LIKE to think..." 1. I am older (67) 2. I do not hold a PhD 3. Long ago I was a trained EE, but then I became a manager of large high tech development groups. I now try to do small scale what I always talked about :) I am - like you - interested in computers and electronics (digital and analog). RF is still a lot of "magic" to me.... :) Again THANK YOU for your channel! PS On being a Linux noob we can shake hands..... after Covid19 by the way. :)

@azakowsky 3 жыл бұрын

great stuff!

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@bnk28zfp 2 жыл бұрын

good information!

@AndreasSpiess 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@gunnarstoa 3 жыл бұрын

My google search last night: Tasmota vs ESPHome

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

So I had a nearly perfect timing...

@fahnleindieselschweif5022 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for your videos. For battery operated sensors I would like to mention mySensors with a mqttEthernetGateway.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Mysensors support also other RF technology. Which is very good for deep sleep. Thanks for the tip!

@scorfman1 3 жыл бұрын

I use tasmota and esphome for many cots devices but I use mysensors for all my home built sensors. It has an important benefit in that it uses its own wireless mesh so only a single IP address and you don’t load your wifi with more sensors!

@anthonycalia1317 2 жыл бұрын

A lot has changed since you made this video. A new comparison may be in order as both tools have evolved significantly.

@AndreasSpiess 2 жыл бұрын

So far it is not on my list. But HA is there. Maybe I will cover this aspect then.

@JohnnieHougaardNielsen 3 жыл бұрын

The TSL2591 can be used on the precompiled Tasmota sensors binary by deactivating the TSL2561 driver: I2CDriver16 0

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip. I will try it!

@ardahan7 3 жыл бұрын

Perfect, thanks

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

@ferencszabo3504 3 жыл бұрын

I like both of them very much.My house is a mix of both devices.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

I think both have advantages and disadvantages. Glad we have choice...

@carpov73 3 жыл бұрын

Hello Andreas, you are always a step beyond 😊, Thank you. You did not spoke about Espurna, any reason for that?

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

I used it before Tasmota. It is very similar, but I thought, Tasmota is more popular amongst my viewers.

@IvanIvan1974 3 жыл бұрын

I'm very glad to hear about "the son off switches" again, thanks.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

@stefans9990 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for an interesting video, Andreas. I can only really comment for Tasmota. It find it fine for simple easy jobs, and I like that they have added syslogd telemetry (syslog to UDP port 514), which is lighter weight than MQTT for interval based telemetry. But when it comes to automation on the sensor itself (not centralized via say Node-Red), I feel I want a little more flexibility. The Rules of Tasmota are a pain to edit, and they are sometimes a little cryptic. For example, if you want rules to only trigger once on change, you have to enter this command Rule 5. Doh? It's cool in ESPHome that you effectively write the C++ and upload, but that's still a pain to debug. What I actually want is an easy to use interpreter with web-based debugging/breakpoints so that I can mess with it in its installed location until I'm happy. Almost like MicroPython, but that is way too sparse to really use. The closest I have found is this Annex RDS platform (sites.google.com/site/annexwifi/home) - it's BASIC (yes really, welcome to the 1980's :-), but with a file manager, breakpoint and single-step debugging, and really cool webserver integration if you know a little about web programming. I am not involved in that project, so this is not an advertisement :-) I just find it a quite useful alternative.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your experience. You describe exactly what I wanted to say about the layering. You get different things on different levels. It is always a trade-off between "speed of deployment" and "flexibility".

@muctop17 3 жыл бұрын

Prepare for a fast ride today: "Fasten seatbelts!" 😁😮😂

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

And still, it became long...

@JLBaselgia 3 жыл бұрын

I like your IKEA box 👌

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

It is quite new and ideal for light sensors because it is not plastic

@SinnerDeveloper 3 жыл бұрын

I flasged 3 Sonoff Basic with Apple Homekit and I’m using them right from the iPhone. Also I built a neopixel strip connected to a ESP node and flashed with Apple Homekit too.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Very good!

@jedandecko5585 3 жыл бұрын

Great analyses, thank you. Maybe when you low on ideas for new video you can setup small system, I am guy that learn best when you show me from ground up :) I know you have done it in 5-6 separate videos, each step, but mini series or one long video will push more ppl to try it and then you can identify problems for us simple comoners :) Thank you for sharing, big fun :)

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

This channel is not for beginners. Otherwise it would be boring for the typical subscribers :-(

@Phettsack 3 жыл бұрын

I only use tasmota and few self made projects, thanks to your platformio-video!

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Good choice!

@stoffl1y 3 жыл бұрын

Good video, I use Tasmota with iobroker over MQTT this work pretty well. In Tasmota firmware i use normal sleep - for deep sleep i need to google more, to find the best practice. FOR power a normal 10 watt solar panel and a small akkupack.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

For most Tasmota applications, deep-sleep probably is not needed.

@dave_dennis 3 жыл бұрын

Nice job selecting those AMS sensors. 😉. FYI that TSL2561 was the sensor used in the first iPhone. DE N5BOC

@dave_dennis 3 жыл бұрын

Oh and you can get IR from the TSL2561 if you read only CH1. Throw away the data from CH0.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the advice. I have to try the trick with CH1. BTW: I programmed the redit talkgroup on my DMR radio and already talked with a US guy. So it seems to work also for DX ;-)

@Uncle-Duncan-Shack 3 жыл бұрын

Greetings Andreas, There's a lot of hardware and software solutions for the maker to tinker with these days. I thank you for creating these in depth reviews and tutorials on what there is and how to go about it. i currently have a bme280 connected to an ESP32 which is sat outside on my windowsill upstairs. It is nice being able to see the weather outside from my browser on my pc or my smartphone. I must get act together and arrange for it to talk to Profilab, as that does data capture well and can do the controlling of actuators if need be. We had snow in the western Cape on Friday and it's interesting to see that the air pressure drops by 10 hectopascals in Johannesburg at the same time, that's 1400 km away. It takes 2 days for the cold air to reach us here afterwards. Very interesting. I also had fun doing data capture by loading a 0.5 Watt pv array with a resistor, connecting it to an esp32 analogue input and graphing the solar radiation using Profilab. Very interesting how the solar intensity varies with changing weather conditions. Anyhow, taking up your valuable time by making you read a long text. Thanks for the video, it's approved. Kind regards, Duncan

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

You are welcome! We also had snow this weekend in higher altitudes and it became quite cold where I am. The idea of my light sensor is exactly to see the correlations between the different components of sunlight throughout the year and find out, which one is best to steer my awning, for example.

@Uncle-Duncan-Shack 3 жыл бұрын

@@AndreasSpiess Yes, you need statistical data to build your control algorithm model on. Going to be interesting.

@erwinkooi6669 3 жыл бұрын

And as it turns out, "it depends"... 🤓 I switched from Tasmota to ESPhome a year ago, as I like to have more control over functions and scripts inside the controller. But then, I am quite well versed in programming. For people getting started in home automation, I still recommend Tasmota.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

So we are "on the same page"... My Tasmota works fine on my Sonoff Dual for the lab.

@BlownMacTruck 3 жыл бұрын

I agree. I love ESPhome because I come from a coding background and its workflow is super convenient to me (aka I'm used to compiling / uploading all from the command line and I can easily parse and edit YAML in various IDEs / editors). It's highly extensible with a bunch of its modules as well and I like that you can talk to Home Assistant directly without running through MQTT. Tasmota is a lot more of a pain for me, but I can see how people less enamored with coding would prefer it.

@UpcycleElectronics 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Andreas, I want to play with some of this automation stuff one day soon. This upload should help. For Linux try Fedora. Lenovo is shipping with Fedora for a reason. -Jake

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

As I said: I am a Linux noob. This is why I stick to Raspberry and its OS. At least till I am better.

@c1ph3rpunk 2 жыл бұрын

And once again, I go looking and you have the answer. It’s been a year since this was made but here’s a couple things I’ve found in the past few days. I have HA on a Pi 3 and under the current version you can install ESPHome firmware OTA, directly or via a serial connection (if so connected, ttyUSB, etc). It lists 4 ways to install it, can’t remember all 4 off the top of my head. I started with Tasmota on a Sonoff and a NodeMCU and discovered you can use Tasmotizer to flash the ESPHome firmware as well. I run a Pi 4 as my lab “workstation” and found that to be more reliable than every other method I tried. The ESPHome flasher won’t run on armhf/arm64/Linux, Tasmotizer does. My current complaint on ESPHome, which I do seem to prefer, is the lack of syslog support that Tasmota has. I want to centralize logging for debugging and security monitoring (using Splunk) and syslog is almost universally the glue we use to hold that all together. For the deep sleep can you force it to sleep when the work is done using the deep_sleep.enter action?

@AndreasSpiess 2 жыл бұрын

1. Another viewer wrote that many things changed since I made the video. Sometimes my videos help such changes ;-) 2. If I remember right I managed to get deep sleep working. But I do no more remember, how.

@c1ph3rpunk 2 жыл бұрын

@@AndreasSpiess yea, was hoping my comments might help future content or folks watching the video, 90% of it still applies despite how fast the IoT world moves. Sleep is next up on my list to try on the NodeMCU (8266) and an ESP32 and I’m guessing you’ll have something to help. I really need to support your Patreon, excellent work my friend, excellent work.

@beyondcatastrophe_ 3 жыл бұрын

8:15 they want python3, you can see that at the command below ("pip3", which indicates pip from python3)

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! You see, I am still a Linux noob :-(

@c7ndk 3 жыл бұрын

Python2 has also been deprecated for almost a year, so that wouldn't make any sense to support it anymore www.python.org/doc/sunset-python-2/

@dieSpinnt 3 жыл бұрын

@@AndreasSpiess To add a little to the confusion about the PyPA recommended tool for installing Python packages: On Windoze: Python versions from 3.3 come with a launcher. You can do: py -3 -m pip # Run latest Python 3 found on the system with its pip. py -2 -m pip # Use latest Python 2 instead. On Linux: Your pip may be a soft-link to pip2. Check it with $ ls -l `which pip` $ ls -l `which pip2` $ ls -l `which pip3` use $ pip show pip $ pip3 show pip to get more details On a python2-free system, pip may become the same (via link or copy) as pip3. But this can also break some packages. BTW using sudo pip on distros that provide native Python packages (apt-get install python-numpy, etc.) is calling for trouble. Keep that in mind.

@pentispent 3 жыл бұрын

Many things changed with Tasmota 9.4 I have successfully flashed ESP32 with the latest tasmota and I see that it has support for mqtt, knx and many sensors. Already tested with RF and IR, works perfect, using mqtt and knx to control them

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your info. Just upgraded one of my Sonoffs today...

@gregorpabst7423 3 жыл бұрын

IoT devices with built-in ESP8266, like Sonoff, Gosund, Blitzwolf, ... --> ESPurna or Tasmota But you have to keep in mind all the MQTT traffic is unencrypted. Because of performance and memory, no TLS secured communication to MQTT server with ESP8266 chips by default. But as always a good content here.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

You are right. I do not care too much about encryption. My sensor values are not very valuable and I have all my sensors in a IoT network.

@SchmurtzAlex 3 жыл бұрын

EspHome allow direct upload from USB. Espeasy is great that’s true but it is quickly a complex way to do : you have to compile yourself it with some options to have the sensors that you need. The development seems less organized. But I recognize that it is powerful too since a long time.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

You are right, if you set your containers up the right way it should work. It was no problem for me because it only has to be done once.

@madst7521 3 жыл бұрын

@@AndreasSpiess There was nothing to set up with the standard raspberry pi 4 image from home-assistant.io and the community version of ESPHome. I just plugged in my ESP32 on usb and got the first image installed.

@EmilyLoebl 3 жыл бұрын

Same here too, I plugged in devices and it just worked to flash via USB to ESPhome. Occasionally I've seen it where ESPHome didn't refresh the USB list, restarting the server resolves for me if that happens.

@waltersenekal4774 3 жыл бұрын

Yes I also use the USB method, after you plug the USB in, just restart the esphome plug-in, to register the USB serial port, but thank for the great videos, I really enjoy your videos and find them very informative.

@michaelbatchelder 3 жыл бұрын

Watch many of you guys and I appreciate the tutorials. I currently have both tasmota (shelly 1) and ESPhome (8266 with different sensors) running. Still have issues setting up stuff, actually made document explaining in my way to make it easier for me. Next project is to try to control a ceiling fan and the light associated with it. Any suggestions are welcome. I still have yet to flash my tuya smart plugs... also on my list. Another question, any smart light strip that can be run on home assistant, my current one only is recognized by Alexa. Oh and is there a way for home assistant to play announcements through Alexa?

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Creating documents for installations definitively is "best practice". It saved my a... quite a few times.

@MoDNcA 3 жыл бұрын

You really should have a look at ESPEasy!

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Noted!

@derschnurlich1512 3 жыл бұрын

Ahh , well, I thought, damn why am I using something so exotic

@fernand237 3 жыл бұрын

Or ESPecial, for dynamic automation on esp32

@hanseich 6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for this very detailed video. I just started to program a sensor in Arduino. Spent days in coding, but now I’m second guessing my progress. I’d love to use ESPHome for it, because of how I think I could integrate lots of other devices, but it seems very cumbersome to get it going. Have there been any significant changes in the last three years? It looks like the supported devices by ESP Home has grown significantly since the making of this video.

@AndreasSpiess 6 ай бұрын

If you use Home Assistant, ESPhome is a good choice (if your sensor is supported). Otherwise maybe you find support in Tasmota. And watch my video of next Sunday ;-)

@joba1560 3 жыл бұрын

Made my day at 16:25 mentioning my i2c id plug&play idea :) If you need IR values from TSL2561, I could publish the raw values easily in tasmota. They are available anyways, since they are needed for lux calculation. Would that help?

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

If I remember right: The 2561 worked, The 2591 was the problem.

@TOMTOM-nh3nl 3 жыл бұрын

Thank You

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome

@fuzzie4755 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Andreas, the TASMOTA deepsleep is optimized for minimum uptime and/or long deepsleep. You have to change the teleperiod to 10 seconds to get the immediate execution of your sensors. In this case, the complete uptime of an ESP8266 is less than 14 seconds as long as the sensors do not need to much time for the LUX calculation. This also works on the ESP32. Regarding your problem to keep the device awake after restart: There are two options. Option one is defining a deepsleep SWITCH. If this is "ON" the device stay awake even if deepsleep defined. The other option is to push "deepsleep 0" as a retain MQTT message. After start, the device will read the message and disable deepsleep. Let me know if you miss more functionality. I have many devices with deepsleep and battery only powered running. works like a charm. The NTP function is to calibrate the deepsleep. As you might have seen a 3600 second deepsleep has a quite big shift. With the function, you can assure that your devices e.g. wake up properly exact at the beginning of the hour. Also very convenient, because predictable if the device runs for months.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Good to know that run-time is optimized. I did not find information on it (did not search for hours). I will try it once (maybe if I get all three sensors in the standard ?) Concerning the MQTT message: I mentioned this possibility very briefly towards the end of the video. The one with the button is ok, but, if I sit across the device, I also can press reset and upload. At least in my case, it worked. Good idea to calibrate the timing with NTP. Maybe not needed for all purposes. And I am glad I read "ESP32". Another commenter mentioned that this CPU will not be strategically supported by the team. And good to know that you are an expert. Last time a guy called "efelle" on discord helped me with rules for my brother's special wishes...

@fuzzie4755 3 жыл бұрын

@@AndreasSpiess Regarding the ESP32: TASMOTA was invented for the ESP8266 with all of its limitations. Many drivers and enhancements are already enabled for ESP32 and work well. You cannot commit anymore a change that crashes on ESP32 and everybody adds some nice compiler options to have TASMOTA on ESP32. There is still a lot of work because sometimes the differences are tiny but important. For example, the sleepmode on ESP32 is much more flexible. Currently, the implementation supports the current mode at ESP32 but did not make use of all the nice wakeup-functions the ESP32 offers. Already the ESP32 bin file uses everything that is available. No more selection of functions based on memory.

@neagoecatalin879 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing this! I was also trying to standardize the way how to handle the ESP32 programming. On the way I have also found this "My Sensors" using Arduino and which I like them very much when using battery and solar power because they use NRF24 radio and are very energy efficient. Regarding the ESP32 sleep mode activation from ESP Home, would`t be possible to create an automation into Home Assistant that calls the sleep mode right after receiving the data package from the sensors node? Just an idea, didn`t tried yet by myself.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

I got some hints on how to do sleeping, but I did not try so far.

@Thamli 3 жыл бұрын

Isn't there a ESPhome admin page add-on in HASS? I've downloaded it recently but not used it yet, using Tasmota mostly and not extensively. Also a superb video, a Belgian beer goes your way sir! A typical Swiss decision at the end 🤣

@__MJ__ 3 жыл бұрын

You can display esphome in hassio menu. Base status check is innode panel - red means not working, green ok. To check another things you can use special sensors (uptime, restart node, wifi status etc.). ESHome talks to HA via API - it is better and faster then mqtt (also more reliable). Tasmota is cross platform solution. ESPHome is designed to work with HA - with all its benefits. If you using HA ESPHome is only one good choice :)

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

I used the Home Assistant add-on. But mine did not show a lot of info. It mainly was used for the deployment of the firmware. And I based everything on MQTT because this is an open standard and many of my subscribers do not use Home Assistant.

@haldir234 3 жыл бұрын

You have the Developer tools in Home Assistant for seeing the sensors and everything else :D it is awesome check it out.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe I will do that in the future...

@Giblet535 3 жыл бұрын

I've been using Tasmota since the project started. I thought it was weird, you posting a video about Tasmota, since I built a custom ESP32 Tasmota (beta) firmware last Monday for an unsupported device. The .bin uses about a third of the available space on a WROOM-32U module. The project has been in use since last Monday evening and does what it needs to do. I only see Tasmota as the easiest way to get a web interface, MQTT, and OTA onto an Espressif project in a short time frame (usually an hour or so). I don't see its shortcomings as shortcomings, but as features *I* didn't implement yet. Using Git effectively is key to keeping my code and ever-changing Arendst's code in sync. I looked at ESPHome & decided that it's more difficult to use as a standalone device. I'll look at it again in a year. I don't like Home Assistant, its interface, its runtime architecture, or its functionality. I installed it for three days, realized HA is trying to be all things to all people, does none of those things well, and will always be one bad update away from everything in my house breaking and an angry spouse giving me That Look. Again. She's tiny, but scary.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

I decided to not compile Tasmota because I assume most people will not do it. I also did not implement custom sensors in ESPhome, because I tried for one hour and was not successful. The charm of framework is that they are easy to use and Tasmota would not be so successful without Tasmotizer and the bin files. Look at Espurna which was probably earlier than Tasmota...

@sebydocky5080 3 жыл бұрын

One important bonus of ESPhome is its direct integration in HA. You don't even need to pass data via MQTT. After, it's also possible to use any sensor with ESPhome as soon as there is an existing arduino lib. You need to build "custom sensor" with ESPhome.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

I think I showed that there is a way to integrate new sensors. I tried it for about an hour and then gave up ;-)

@sebydocky5080 3 жыл бұрын

@@AndreasSpiess Well it's a bit tricky the first time but I managed to integrate like that many many I²C sensors...

@EsbenDamgaard 3 жыл бұрын

Configuring deep-sleep on esphome, you could instead of the timeout, create an automation on the device (although i have not tested this): sensor: - platform: dallas on_value: then: - deep_sleep.enter: deep_sleep_1

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I think I would have to wait till the MQTT messages are sent before I start deep-sleep. I will have a look at it in the future.

@phinok.m.628 2 жыл бұрын

That's a very good summary. I also like your comparison between efficiency and flexibility, I think many people don't really realize this. For me personally, when I can, I like to use ready-made software like tasmota. But many times such software or even some libraries don't offer exactly the functionality that I want. So I end up having to write my own program. I have even written some assembly programs. But very rarely, since apart from memory and speed efficiency, assembly doesn't have many advantages compared to C. You can do almost anything you can do with assembly also with C. But assembly takes so much longer to write that for complex projects it's really not worth the time. At least not for me.

@AndreasSpiess 2 жыл бұрын

When I was young we only had assembly language and we were happy when the higher languages were developed. I never looked back ;-)

@phinok.m.628 2 жыл бұрын

@@AndreasSpiess Yeah, I can understand that. I mean, I think assembly is actually kinda cool. Usually there aren't that many of instructions, so it's fairly easy to learn. And I like that assembly translates direction into machine code, without the need of any compiler. But on the other hand, having to learn different instruction sets for different processors is rather annoying. So yeah, in general I definitely prefer C/C++. Or even python, but not really on microcontrollers, since they usually have fairly limited resources and I consider python is just too high level to really be efficient (in my opinion). Anyway, I'm also certainly glad we have more sophisticated languages than assembly (or just writing pure machine code, as the used to do before assembly).

@AndreasSpiess 2 жыл бұрын

It is not about the instruction set. Here you are right. It is about the complexity because you have no variables, only memory locations. And with the 8-bit CPUs we only had numbers up to 256. Above that you had to do all the calculations by yourself. Maybe you look at how a simple division has to be programmed in assembler ;-) And the readability of this "spaghetti code" was also horrible. Anyway, sometimes it has to be used up to today if you have special needs where you can not use a higher language.

@phinok.m.628 2 жыл бұрын

@@AndreasSpiess Yes I know... And if you have numbers higher than 255 you need to use two registers, which is kinda also a mess. But I guess it's still better than working with a 4 bit processors. Conditional code is also kinda annoying, cause there is no if or else, so you basically have to figure out how to get it working, by skipping instructions or jumping to a different address based on some condition. But I mean, that's the normal trade off, the way it works is simple, but it's complicated to work with. But you know, there are things about assembler I like. For example that you know exactly how much time each instruction takes to process (or can take to process). C/C++ is clearly superior when it comes to programming. But since you basically give some of the programming work to the computer (compiling the code) you lose the insight into exactly what the processor is doing at any given time. Obviously I'm not saying Assembler is better. It is quite elegant in certain ways. But assembler quickly gets to the point where the processor speed is not the bottleneck, but instead the speed of the human programmer. And at that point of course it makes sense to sacrifice some efficiency for quicker and easier programming.

@seandtrue 3 жыл бұрын

FWIW, if you connect a USB-serial to your Home Assistant machine, ESPHome will discover it and let you flash firmware. This works even with a dockerized install of HA running on a virtual machine hosted on my home NAS. (The only funky step there was remembering to assign the USB port on the NAS to the virtual machine). The port can be found as an alternate selection to OTA in the selection list. As far as startup time for the deep sleep problem, if you assign the address yourself (or make a DHCP reservation for the node once one has been assigned, and configure it as static in the node configuration), startup time is much better. And if the OTA update is problematic with sleeping systems, they can always be taken back to the development environment and programmed with the USB connection.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

You are right with the definition inside Docker. Maybe they add it in hte IOTstack prokect. Concerning fixed IP address: This trick works for all ESP sketches, not only the frameworks. For some nodes I am really happy they have OTA because it is a pain in the a... to remove them where they are ;-)

@dgusw Жыл бұрын

an updated video to this topic would be really nice... a lot has changed on esphome side

@AndreasSpiess Жыл бұрын

You never know. So far I have no plans.

@TedMarkson 3 жыл бұрын

Programming via USB is enabled on HASS/ESPHome addon when a supported device is detected, ie serial port. The device will show an item in that drop down that always says `OTA Over the air`. To see this plug a device into the hardware that runs HASS and check the drop down list.

@AndreasSpiess 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I think it was because I ran it inside Docker.