Ray was convicted of murder in Toxteth in 1981 and served a total of 36 years in the UK's most notorious prisons thanks to a "false confession". This is Ray's incredible story and the journey he's been on.
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@desbyrne44193 жыл бұрын
Absolute brilliant podcast as they all are. Jesus heartbreaking listening to rays story. Hope he gets justice🇮🇪
@jacquihenderson13852 жыл бұрын
Bless you ray i sincerely hope you get justice.though nothing can change what you have gone through. Ive cried throughout your story. I wish you peace in your life . You deserve it more than anyone
@leanne61132 жыл бұрын
Lovely words ❤️
@fredinabun12423 жыл бұрын
This podcast is easy the best 1 about. It's all about the guest I forget that Billy himself has a crazy story and past he has no ego and that's why he is so good at doing this. Good luck Billy I hope you're channel keeps growing.
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
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@uniquedude5663 жыл бұрын
I'm nearly finished prayers before dawn and it's been a fantastic read and surreal so far. Good on you Billy for changing your life for the better after all you've been through, keep it up brother and someday you'll have the top podcast on KZfaq. Best of luck for 2021 lad 🇮🇪
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
🙌 thanks bro
@ccarbo2 жыл бұрын
Good to see you finally got to tell your story, Ray. Good man All the best 👍
@iguile14713 жыл бұрын
Your interviewing skills are getting better and better billy mate. Stick at it !!
@friarbishme3 жыл бұрын
All the best Billy for 2021 , it will be the year that your subs goes up up up :), can tell your gaining your confidence in doing podcast by the way your looking more relaxed Take care m8
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
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@attentionseeker78333 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed watching this Billy! Hope Ray gets justice ♥️
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
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@raygilbert99453 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind sentiments
@paulmaxwell62433 жыл бұрын
Love this one lad happy new year
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year 🥳
@darrensmith89753 жыл бұрын
Another good interview 👏
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro 🙌
@fernandotorress1003 жыл бұрын
Anyone else here looking to get away from the popcast handbags going on elsewhere?
@carltheblue.25313 жыл бұрын
lived over a shop in lodge lane in 81! Johns food store. Born in Bentley rd . Loved it and shaped my savvyness in life the front line , living down south now. another boss show mate honestly 👍
@raygilbert99452 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Can you remember the bookies at the top of lodge Lane. Good to see all doing well for you 👍
@shonkytours20393 жыл бұрын
Another brilliant interview Billy 👍
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
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@William.Tyndale13813 жыл бұрын
Good show great subject that needs more light and focus to make people aware of this kind of thing all the best to ray for the future
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
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@gordonbennett22093 жыл бұрын
What a humble and inspiring guy - great podcast
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
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@raygilbert99453 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gordon hope you are doing ok to safe
@TheNotoriousGhost3 жыл бұрын
Great episode. Feel sorry for this bloke. Sad story. 36 yrs a long time. Especially when he never did it...
@MrsCatton13 жыл бұрын
Bless you Ray, hope you get the justice you deserve ❤ Happy New Year Billy and family, hope '21 brings everything you want❤
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@mmcc80222 жыл бұрын
Mand Wright ..deffo didn’t do it you can tell …..sad really
@pabloescobar76473 жыл бұрын
I've done daft little bits. I couldn't do what ray has done. That's character that. You know what he didnt once say oh poor me. Everything was positive.. total respect.
@kevinlawes591 Жыл бұрын
Ray all the best! moving on you deserve nothing but at the very least the injustice to come to the surface! Good luck mate
@raygilbert9945 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Kevin.I hope all is well with you
@johngrant5273 жыл бұрын
Watched alot of podcasts one of the best out there top class billy and can’t forget Ray hope you get justice 🇮🇪
@raymondgilbert44433 жыл бұрын
Nice John appreciate your sentiments cheers
@raygilbert99453 жыл бұрын
Just done a eye detect test and it shows I'm Innocent. Thank you.
@stu81313 жыл бұрын
Bless him man hope he gets justice 🙏
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
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@Ron.M-yo9ht6 ай бұрын
Good interview Ray Hope you get this sorted out
@Ianjames649 Жыл бұрын
THERE ARE NO WORDS TO DESCRIBE WHAT THIS MAN HAS BEEN THROUGH..... AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE THE JUSTICE SYSTEM IN THIS COUNTRY IS F@ckd
@raygilbert9945 Жыл бұрын
There are hundreds who shouldn't be inside. As we see with the met, how many other forces are so bent and seen people set up
@globalital Жыл бұрын
Justice for ray...you deserve it ray big time fella,and I really hope you get it ,cheers as always billy
@raygilbert9945 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Global growing for your kind message. I hope all is well with you
@globalital Жыл бұрын
@@raygilbert9945 sound ray,big up on the positivity mate,it's the only way isn't it , respect from me ray
@jackiesaunders90133 жыл бұрын
Very powerful Billy was a emotinal watch.Hope Ray gets the justice deserved.😪
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
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@Jeaniweeny42423 жыл бұрын
Happy new year Billy 🎉🎉
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year 🥳
@billythewilliam79113 жыл бұрын
Fantastic podcast, love this fella, big fella doing the intaveiw is really good.
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
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@kevinpocock50803 жыл бұрын
Great one this billy!feel for ray and his story but did have a laugh about the bronson story!legend
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
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@peterdevaux43943 жыл бұрын
Another podcast that smashes all the top ones nice one billy and ray glued to my iPad ray needs justice
@raymondgilbert44433 жыл бұрын
Many thanks Peter hope all is well with you
@peterdevaux43943 жыл бұрын
@@raymondgilbert4443 god bless you hope you are well
@attentionseeker78333 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to this one 👏🏻😁
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
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@C-U-IN-H3LL3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this one bill
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
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@spudhead11613 жыл бұрын
I've been away with a few doing L plates for murder who were stitched up, Rab Brown from Scotland. Sad.
@raymondgilbert44433 жыл бұрын
Come across Rab Brown on my travels, good fella
@spudhead11613 жыл бұрын
@@raymondgilbert4443 Sad what happened to him, think he done 27.
@mmcc80222 жыл бұрын
Good honest fluid interview
@Portable1333 жыл бұрын
Great interview Billy you can tell he's been set up love and respect from Scotland a friend John 🙏
@jamesclough61903 жыл бұрын
Hiya Billy hope all is well love watching your podcast and your film pal tell your Joe happy new and all the best 👍
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro
@phillmitchelllpool20923 жыл бұрын
Billy so glad your doing your podcasts mate someone who’s been there worn the t shirt I finished off with ray in Kennet on G and H wing I won’t say my name but he’s a good fella hope he gets his conviction squashed and moves on I got released in 2015 just before kennet was closing and going back to nhs but ray will agree it had its name cat A kennett but it was actually sound I’ve been in and out of prison since 96 me last sentence was a 10 but I’m on the straight now got me self a job so it’s nice to see people from the same cloth doing the same I’m loving your podcasts bill and wish you well 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻keep it up Don’t ever let ray winston play apart in your films thow bill 😂👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the message bro hope you have a boss new year and all the best 🙌
@phillmitchelllpool20923 жыл бұрын
@@theallornothingpodcastwith4442 thanks bill you too mate it’s my favourite channel now mate 👍🏻
@raymondgilbert44433 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Phil yes Cat A Kennet what a joke but hope you've turned your life round and doing good safe bro
@naycash3 жыл бұрын
very interesting interview
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
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@mattyfairclough89213 жыл бұрын
What a top fella ray sounds , great podcast again billy moore keep up the good work buddy 💪
@raymondgilbert44433 жыл бұрын
Cheers for your nice comments respect
@robertnewnes87382 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work Ray 👏 great story Billy the man as been true it 👍
@raygilbert99452 жыл бұрын
Thank you Robert for your kind message.Hope all is well with you and your family
@tonyhindle38393 жыл бұрын
Gud to see u out Ray
@kennethphillip..ronan.88573 жыл бұрын
Top man our Billy is great stuff pal.grate story s ray That was nutts not many people could handle wat happend to this man .🇮🇪👑👊🏻💙💙
@raygilbert99453 жыл бұрын
Cheers Kenneth.nice one for your sentiments.and support.keep safe and well bro
@andrewmcgee41463 жыл бұрын
God bless ray and another interesting podcast Billy la
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
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@michaelflood26223 жыл бұрын
Good lad Raymondo , loves Everton and chocolate . Hope he gets justice
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
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@raymondgilbert44433 жыл бұрын
Nice one Mike love chocolate and EFC simply the best safe
@Jeaniweeny42423 жыл бұрын
Hope you get justice ray god bless 🙏
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
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@bobholyoake8577 Жыл бұрын
Sad state of affairs, that he will never get back those years ..
@raygilbert9945 Жыл бұрын
Exactly but justice struggle goes on
@strumbolli3 жыл бұрын
Makes you wonder how many more cases were wrapped up like this, evidence witheld from defence,snide deals done and a murderer goes free. No one gets justice least of all the murder victim. He deserves to be heard. Some fuckers decided to fit him and lock him for most of his life as it was easier than catching the actual killer.
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
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@fredinabun12423 жыл бұрын
Its cases like this that make me sick and I question the police and the justice system because they don't seem to care about justice they only care about getting a win in court to put anyone away. I also don't get the deals were they let someone go free if they grass on another person. That makes no sense to me because if i care about justice then I wouldn't make deals with gulity people.
@raymondgilbert44433 жыл бұрын
Alot of cases were people fitted up by other inmates testimony.. still loads in the system fighting for justice who need help
@peterdevaux43943 жыл бұрын
Ray deserves a medal nice cast
@raymondgilbert44433 жыл бұрын
Nice one am fine. Hope all is well with you
@adrianrobinson84584 ай бұрын
Yes a loosers medal for being a pathological liar.
@leeorr90713 жыл бұрын
Ray stay strong kid love u 😍
@robtrow60412 жыл бұрын
My old mate knows you Billy Rob Dyson he's a top lad who is doing well in life now and I'm made up for him. Great podcast has always mate Ray is a soldier 36 years in prison for something he never did.
@theallornothingpodcastwith44422 жыл бұрын
Yes Rob know him well 🙌
@raygilbert99452 жыл бұрын
Thank U of Rob. Nice one for your message and support
@robtrow60412 жыл бұрын
@@raygilbert9945 your welcome buddy I hope you're channel gets the support it deserves. Also I hope you can eventually get justice for everything you have been through in the system. 36 years is a joke for something you shouldn't have been away for is a crime in itself. You soldier on mate and enjoy your life and be happy respect Ray 👍
@raygilbert9945 Жыл бұрын
@@robtrow6041 Thank you Rob. Your comments are much appreciated. I hope everything is going well with you
@efc10023 жыл бұрын
what a top fella , i wish you nothing but good luck ray .
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
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@raygilbert99453 жыл бұрын
Cheers bro EFC simply awesome
@robeybayley26283 жыл бұрын
Brilliant listen this podcast
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
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@nabiljeoseph92653 жыл бұрын
Billy keep IT up brother your book is so fucking good all your podcast are great wat can I say your a great Man to over come all wat u have love always my brother from another mother
@mrmralloa85403 жыл бұрын
What a nice guy , one of the best 👌
@seventythreebooksorsixtysi10783 жыл бұрын
Just cant get my head round this either way I've been home 5year from a 10ipp and thing is everyone you meet on the way is Not.Guilty it's the code until its parole time big up Bill and the lpool old skool
@brendadrumm94512 жыл бұрын
Bless u not proud my son yrs ago went to eight different prisons too long a story but never heard of a bell being rang what does that mean xx
@realempath83273 жыл бұрын
I bought a pair of shoes of a drug dealer the other day. Dont know what they were laced with but I was tripping all day lol😆❤👍happy new year bill x
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
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@gazriley6243 жыл бұрын
any chance of getting Paddy Garland on? old school Liverpool gangster from Kensington
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
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@pamelabossward372911 ай бұрын
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@Mark-el7ie3 жыл бұрын
Fucken boss fella ray. Met him in wymott in 2011.
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
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@Mark-el7ie3 жыл бұрын
@@theallornothingpodcastwith4442 I didn't know you were from speke mate
@Mark-el7ie3 жыл бұрын
@@theallornothingpodcastwith4442 I'm from speke myself billy. Boxed for Gemini when I was a kid as well. I'm up in glasgow now mate. You podcasts are fucken great mate. Well done. Take care mate. All the best 👍
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
@@Mark-el7ie 🙏
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
@@Mark-el7ie all my youth 🙌
@davasmith84523 жыл бұрын
Good Luck Ray hope you get justice Them plod were evil filthy twats back in the day Ray so humble after being stitched up for 35 years credit to you bless Billy another great podcast ya smashing it laa !!
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
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@loulou41483 жыл бұрын
The Filth still are Evil Corrupt Gits!
@raymondgilbert44433 жыл бұрын
Cheers Dave. Spot on about plod abusing the L8 community back then safe
@colinhumphreys88183 жыл бұрын
billy do you have any plans to get ALFIE LEWIS OR JOHN HAASE on
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
🧐 I’ve been asked about Alfie that’ll be interesting 🙌
@colinhumphreys88183 жыл бұрын
@@theallornothingpodcastwith4442 can you get haase on
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
@@colinhumphreys8818 not sure bro
@colinhumphreys88183 жыл бұрын
@@theallornothingpodcastwith4442 have you ever read graham johnsons book THE CARTEL its about the liverpool drugs trade 1973-2013 in it he refers to 2 toxteth men as KAISER AND SCARFACE they introduced CURTIS WARREN into the colombian cali cartel any idea who they are
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
@@colinhumphreys8818 no idea 🤷♂️
@llyr31883 жыл бұрын
Let’s go billy lad‼️✅
@kennethphillip..ronan.88573 жыл бұрын
We're is the justice for this man .I can't stand police who pin ahit on people. Poor son a gun man .
@raygilbert99453 жыл бұрын
Yeah bro. To many stitched up by Babylon and some take years to undo can join my Facebook page and view all the videos and share if you can. Safe bro
@4hesajollygoodhusky5523 жыл бұрын
See these blokes arnt 2 to a penny they are the 1 percenters the 1 percent ov people who endure so much human endurance used on human mind its cruel why would he not admit it hell ov been out after 15 Billy????? 👍 🙏 Hope justice prevails
@leanne61132 жыл бұрын
Well said
@stewala30693 жыл бұрын
All the best Billy , keep it goin mate 👍🏻
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro 🙌
@margiemckay89253 жыл бұрын
Good on ya and all the best to you n yur family 👪 yur innocent no doubt about it. N know what yur saying about cooper's had 6brothers but only 3left anyway enough about me .all the best 👌 to you .that so called fella is bad news .#justice
@margiemckay89253 жыл бұрын
Thank you for my 💘
@raygilbert99453 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear of your losing three brothers that is tragic and depressing.I hope you're rebuilding your life and family all helping each other.thank you for your kind sentiments and keep smiling and laughing and hope everything carries on well for you
@margiemckay89253 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@margiemckay89253 жыл бұрын
@@raygilbert9945 thanks Ray good luck 👍 take care of yur self and yur family 👪xx
@smokeyjoe213 жыл бұрын
This is powerfull billy this man needs compensaten
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
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@raymondgilbert44433 жыл бұрын
Not about money, but justice.All I want my name cleared.
@aidancassidy22653 жыл бұрын
23hours 👌💯... Looking forward to this bad boyyyyyy 👌🤟💯
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
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@aidancassidy22653 жыл бұрын
Happy New year brother 🙌💯
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
Happy new year 🙏
@JakePT2k3 жыл бұрын
Be sick to have darren gee on both being from liverpool n all 👌
@jamesdyson93643 жыл бұрын
Poor lad needs justice another another boss podcast
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
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@raygilbert99453 жыл бұрын
Nice one kidda safe James
@thecarpfather57573 жыл бұрын
Yes mate whens my man Darren Smith on
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
Hopefully film it with him this week 🙌
@BurtonRdForever3 жыл бұрын
Is this the John Kamara case
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
Yes ☝️
@johnkamara3522 жыл бұрын
Yes that man made me do 20 years in prison for a crime i did not do i like to go on this podcast and let them know what he did to me
@TT-kg7cz3 жыл бұрын
In patches? in stripes Raymondo. 😆 JusticeForRay. ✊ JusticeForWes
@raymondgilbert44433 жыл бұрын
Justice for all wrongly convicted.the system stinks with to many stitch ups
@TT-kg7cz3 жыл бұрын
@@raymondgilbert4443 💯 ray hope your well.
@davidlloyd22253 жыл бұрын
Did he ever get to ask his co.d why he set him up..was the co.d guilty or did I make a brew during that bit bill👍
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
Maybe I should get him on to tell his side 🙌
@davidlloyd22253 жыл бұрын
@@theallornothingpodcastwith4442 now that would b amazing haha..in my long life i'v learnt 1 thing people who u can genuinely trust r few and far between and as for honour amongst thieves.. my arse!..keep up the good work bill
@johnkamara3522 жыл бұрын
I love to do a podcast Ray Gilbert got me life and i did 20 years for a crime i did not do that rat Gilbert made 6 statement he plead guilty in Liverpool crown court when he was in the witness box get me on mate and you can see what that Man did to me and I can tell you this he got is girlfriend Arrested did you know that he never told you that i love to go on your podcast
@ukreallifeL83 жыл бұрын
Was a sick podcast that, use to get it bad the black community back in the day 😡😡
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
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@ukreallifeL83 жыл бұрын
@Lynsey Jordan yea but thats karma init for the way the whites treated the blacks in South Africa for hundreds of years, what goes around always comes back around :/
@ukreallifeL83 жыл бұрын
@Lynsey Jordan Am white 🤣
@jshaw4757 Жыл бұрын
@@ukreallifeL8Slave trade was 1000s years old in Africa before euros arrived mate pick a book up mate...
@jshaw4757 Жыл бұрын
@@ukreallifeL86000 years at least known the entire planet sold humans too each other before Europe even existed almost...plenty white slaves from other sides in fact word slave comes frome the word slavic I.e white slavic people that's where the word comes from...cheers
@baconkasanaenae46313 жыл бұрын
Is his name cleared yet
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
No
@mmcc80222 жыл бұрын
No ..don’t think he’ll go ahead with his justice if ya watch podcast properly.think he’s a little scared
@adrianrobinson84585 ай бұрын
No and it never will be, WHY ? Because he's a pathological liar, do your research more, when this book comes out, your going to read the real truth about him and the murder and robbery I kid you not, ive seen all the evidence, and I mean all of it, his an all.
@waynechadwick-sy6cx4 ай бұрын
I’ll say there’s people out there know the trut on ray’s innocent and it’s twisted your soul be you of constabulary or criminal fraternity you know to open the truth will release your guilt. The truth always tell. Good luck though Ray on life you can never rebuild.SO THEM WHO KNOW SHOW OR HELL YOULL FIND THAT HE HAS!
@fredinabun12423 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't think Ray was black. I wouldn't of known if he didn't say anything.
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
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@raymondgilbert44433 жыл бұрын
My dad's side is originally from Ghana and lost much of my complexion inside, and the newspaper articles in 1981 clearly states two coloured men say more
@stuartmcainsh14343 жыл бұрын
36 fckin years for nothin fffs
@russelllandry7963 жыл бұрын
May the God of Israel lead, Guard and Guide you to Victory. The battle belongs to our Lord and saviour .My prayer for you bro.Much love .Russell .In Yesha's Name .Amen.b
@joannemorgan8808 Жыл бұрын
i thought bamba was guilty
@raygilbert9945 Жыл бұрын
Have severe doubts about the safety of Bambers conviction. You can't withhold over hundred thousand exhibits, and say a fair trial. That alone questions the veracity of justice in his case. Is proven to be unfair
@Ron.M-yo9ht6 ай бұрын
@@raygilbert9945this is the problem The crown hiding evidence from the defence and the jury
@RatherFatJewishMan3 жыл бұрын
Why does he think he's a black man? 😆
@theallornothingpodcastwith44423 жыл бұрын
Maybe because he is 🤷♂️
@davasmith84523 жыл бұрын
He is mixed race
@liverbird9562 жыл бұрын
@@davasmith8452 His grandfather is Black and his father is mixed race, that would make Ray 25% Black of heritage.
@jamescullen24483 жыл бұрын
I was in strangeways 1981. Delroy showers , was there never heard the key men say anything to him ,
@leanne61133 жыл бұрын
Which key men? Ray wasn't in Strangeways in 81
@jamescullen24483 жыл бұрын
@@leanne6113 ray sed he was and that the key men ,ie prisoner officers, where calling him a nigger , think you need to listen again,
@leanne61133 жыл бұрын
@@jamescullen2448 I'm sat with him now so don't have to listen again. He was in Risley and Walton in 81. It was 82 when he went to Strangeways.
@jamescullen24483 жыл бұрын
@@leanne6113 ok I will listen again and get back to you ,
@jamescullen24483 жыл бұрын
O fuck me 1982 fuck sake same thing , Delroy showers never got called a nigger that was my point , so I was there 1982 , and if you are with him say all the best , I was from the top of Earle rd , very well know man , just never got caught,😎😊
@stevenbones99062 жыл бұрын
is there somthing wrong with my eyesight becouse this guy looks white to me.
@theallornothingpodcastwith44422 жыл бұрын
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@raygilbert9945 Жыл бұрын
Yes your eyes don't fail .I lost my complexion and I genuinely come from a mixed race background. Mother Scouse and dad African heritage
@scottcampbell94792 жыл бұрын
He looks white to me
@theallornothingpodcastwith44422 жыл бұрын
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@joshrushton59503 жыл бұрын
Spent 5 minutes doing some research and he’s not exactly saying everything. Was evidence. This it was my blood, is not true. They found the victims blood on him. Either way he’s done his time. Seems a nice bloke.
@leanne61133 жыл бұрын
Where does it state this? There was NEVER any DNA evidence.
@joshrushton59503 жыл бұрын
@@leanne6113 part of the reason they convicted him was because it wasn’t proven the blood on him was his own..
@leanne61133 жыл бұрын
The blood that was on the bed sheets was his own. There was never any blood from Mr Suffield linked to either of those convicted and nothing has ever been published to say otherwise. Please explain where you have read any different
@michaelobrien75963 жыл бұрын
@@joshrushton5950 There was no forensic evidence produced at trial to suggest Ray was even there. So I don't know where you got this from but you are Mistaken.
@joshrushton59503 жыл бұрын
@@michaelobrien7596 yes. My great uncle works on the court system. And was part of the case. They couldn’t tell if the blood was his or someone else’s. Not saying he was guilty.