37. OCD Treatment: The Myth of "Intrusive" Thoughts

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Katie d'Ath

Katie d'Ath

2 жыл бұрын

CBT therapist Katie d'Ath explains why there is no such thing as an "intrusive thought" and why perpetuating this myth causes a problem. Katie's book "Managing OCD with CBT for Dummies" is a simple but comprehensive guide to treating yourself.

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@gitanjalireddy4372
@gitanjalireddy4372 2 жыл бұрын
It's a weird feeling; one I never thought I would be able to feel some months ago. I was mentally very disturbed because of the onset of my harm OCD in June 2021. It was very overwhelming, confusing and worrisome. I had gone from being happy, calm and functional to very disoriented, disturbed, sleepless, anxious all the time, having multiple panic attacks in a day and hopeless. But over the course of time along with so many platforms online and tons of thanks to Katie herself, I healed. I did everything she has told in all of her videos and interacted and gotten to know so many people and gained so much knowledge about OCD as I tried understanding what was happening in my brain and now it almost gets tears to my eyes to say that I have a completely normal life. All the intrusive thoughts which (ahhhh Katie debunked in this video) and the anxiety along with the entire package of mental illness have stopped. I did not take any supplements to help myself, got myself a book, started writing, practiced ERP, started exercise, switched to healthier food habits and here I am. Just scrolling through KZfaq and finding a video of Katie in the corner of my suggestions. If I can do it, so can you. Believe in yourself and do not loose faith in yourself. I promise you, it will get better and a million thanks to Katie, you have no idea how grateful I am to you.
@arielelizabeth2407
@arielelizabeth2407 2 жыл бұрын
Hello! I'd love to get in touch and talk about how you overcame this! I'm in a similar situation as you, and I'm getting to a point of wanting to just end it all.
@23katied
@23katied 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy to hear that you have been able to help yourself and found the videos useful. It's so great of you to share this because I think so often people struggle to believe that they can not only overcome the problem but moreover, overcome it with self-help. Awesome job!
@sophiakoivisto6328
@sophiakoivisto6328 Жыл бұрын
@@arielelizabeth2407 I’m sorry you are feeling this way, and have had thoughts like this as-well because I feel like there’s no way to help myself. But I truly believe things can get easier for both of us.
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
Hey just wondering how you’re getting on now, could do with some reassurance, cheers
@AdolGlow
@AdolGlow Жыл бұрын
@@arielelizabeth2407 no matter what keep striving to stay alive. Get the help you need and try to stay positive by telling yourself that you can and will heal.
@bettina_s
@bettina_s 2 жыл бұрын
Those who disagree: She says that certain thoughts are intrusive BECAUSE you give them meaning so they come back. This is true. I have severe OCD which I can not let go. And I have sometimes harm related thoughts but this can not stay, because I know I wouldn't hurt anyone so it cannot scare me.
@Luke-Emmanuel
@Luke-Emmanuel 2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried milk thistle supplement?
@Luke-Emmanuel
@Luke-Emmanuel 2 жыл бұрын
And probiotics and staying away from processed foods and dairy? Really helps. Haven't tried milk thistle yet but looks promising to add
@rylandweet7750
@rylandweet7750 2 жыл бұрын
@@Luke-Emmanuel I was doing the probiotics though lactose free yogurt but I relized it’s still dairy lol
@Luke-Emmanuel
@Luke-Emmanuel 2 жыл бұрын
@@rylandweet7750 probiotic capsules are best. Do probiotic research with KZfaq. When it's low the capsules are best. Pickles are good too
@rylandweet7750
@rylandweet7750 2 жыл бұрын
@@Luke-Emmanuel I have some gummies, I was going to try them tonight , do you know how many days it takes to notice when they are working?
@Legend-pc3ng
@Legend-pc3ng 2 жыл бұрын
intrusive thoughts are so sick and fucked up. hate it, because it attacks with the stuff you value most, the stuff i hate and find seriously evil.
@arimassuh6294
@arimassuh6294 2 жыл бұрын
Can weed help?
@hellokittycutie2003
@hellokittycutie2003 2 жыл бұрын
@@arimassuh6294 Honest answer…it depends 🤷🏽‍♀️. I’d say the safest option is cbd.
@kimberlyolson8875
@kimberlyolson8875 2 жыл бұрын
I understand.
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
Hey just wondering how you’re getting on now, cheers
@flambojr.4235
@flambojr.4235 Жыл бұрын
I got a better explanation. People are still asking for help here. Anyone here could trust what I say. I handled the worst form of ocd with just understanding. No therapy or pills. Everything that bothers you (intrusive thoughts) are not connected to you. The key is to act like they're not intrusive. If you suffered ocd you know you can't just ignore them. You have to understand the situation. You will always be in doubt if you don't understand anything. Hence you labeling thoughts as intrusive. That's why therapy hurts. Treat intrusive thoughts as material. Something not connected to you. Ugly cups. What do you do when you don't like an ugly cup? You get rid of it. How? By picking it up and throwing it away. Here is where the misunderstanding comes in. What do you do when you see a cup you love? You pick it up and keep it. In both situations you pick the cups up. That's why intrusive thoughts are hard to let go. You fear that you're picking the ugly cup because you like it. Don't confuse things. Focus on reason. Intrusive thoughts come from pain. They are material you tell yourself to avoid. Don't feel like you're thinking of doing any of the bad stuff. They are not thoughts. Only material. Garbage you pick out to get rid of. Truth is you're already pure from it. That's why you fight it. They're not real either.
@flambojr.4235
@flambojr.4235 Жыл бұрын
If you're still struggling I strongly consider an anti-inflammatory diet. Inflammation is directly linked with pain. Anxiety. Going dairy, oil and grain free is one of the best things you can do if you're sensitive.
@Elizabeth-kn4jh
@Elizabeth-kn4jh Жыл бұрын
This is really helpful
@Elizabeth-kn4jh
@Elizabeth-kn4jh Жыл бұрын
This is really helpful
@shivi248
@shivi248 2 жыл бұрын
Well my OCD was about loosing my loved ones.have been fighting this for 16 years now .life has been hell . every time I tried to break the cycle it failed. But what really broke me down was when I lost my father last year. Having thoughts tormenting me and actually seeing him pass away in my arms... The pain was beyond anything I have ever felt . With my father I also lost my courage and hope that I can fight OCD, resist it. But I'm not going to give up because I know that my dad is watching me nd he would have wanted me to defeat ocd and live my life nd after reading comments of so many people knowing their story ,I know that I'm not the only person in pain so I will not give up will try get hold of my life this time. May GOD help everyone Amen 🙏
@23katied
@23katied 2 жыл бұрын
Firstly, I'm so sorry for your loss. Definitely don't give up on learning to overcome your OCD - there is help and resources out there so reach out and find what works for you. It can be tough to beat but it's possible!
@shivi248
@shivi248 2 жыл бұрын
@@23katied thank you Katie 😇 ur words mean a lot to me 😊
@nov2675
@nov2675 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Katie, Thank you so much for making these videos. I feel like you are the only person who understands what I am going through. Reading your book has helped me so much and still helps me to this day. I'm still struggling a lot but I temporarily feel better reading your words. You don't know how much this means what you are doing for others.
@MoxieRocker
@MoxieRocker 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, as someone who has lived with OCD for nearly 20 years, comparing intrusive thoughts to regular everyday thoughts that everyone has feels like it SEVERELY diminishes the disorder. Not everyone sees a horror movie in their head a few times a day or is compelled to do something to alleviate their repetitive thought. The label of intrusive thought does not impact or deter the treatment for OCD. Calling them intrusive does make them special, because they are special. Treating them does not become less successful or more difficult because we acknowledge that they are abnormal. If they were normal, we wouldn't have a need to treat them. This whole video sounded incredibly patient-blamey. "The reason you're having intrusive thoughts is because YOU give them power" is an extremely condescending and diminishing idea. Whatever works for your patients works for your patients I guess, but putting this type of information out there when it is NOT the medical consensus is extremely damaging to people. I suggest putting a disclaimer before your videos in the future.
@theminecraftwhisperer995
@theminecraftwhisperer995 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely agree with parts of this. Her previous videos have been really helpful. The idea of just letting these thoughts pass and essentially dissolve definitely helped. But seriously this kind of video just felt like she was giving some horrible validity to intrusive thoughts. They are outside of your control. If any thought, feeling, sensation, etc… is intrusive, it is not real to you, and shouldn’t be treated as real or valid, and certainly not true. It’s just something that happens to be in your brain, and you need just let it take care of itself. Even the thumbnail felt like it was crossing a line and could really hurt someone. Personally struggling with sexual OCD right now, and the thumbnail and what I’ve watched of the video really didn’t help.
@srishtysamal8600
@srishtysamal8600 2 жыл бұрын
Heyyy! I get a lot of negative and even cruel thoughts about my loved ones. There are times when I feel that I'm thinking such things intentionally and that's when I start to feel really anxious and guilty. Is this normal?
@MoxieRocker
@MoxieRocker 2 жыл бұрын
@@srishtysamal8600 that would be a question for a qualified therapist after several sessions of analysis.
@starrypunk20
@starrypunk20 2 жыл бұрын
It was so crazy to me to find that our brains work in such wild ways. Thinking things out of our control. I have to tell myself that I didn’t think something “bad” on purpose, it just happened. My reaction to the thoughts has been to “confess” them to my partner as a means of expelling the bad energy. This has controlled my life all day for 4 years. You have helped me so much to better understand what is happening.
@23katied
@23katied 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you are finding the videos helpful.
@truthsayer13
@truthsayer13 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back Katie and thank you for this video; empowering as always! I recently finished the self-help book you co-authored "managing ocd with cbt for dummies" which I highly recommend to all ocd sufferers. The intricate understanding you have of ocd when so many of us have gone misdiagnosed and felt misunderstood means the world 💖
@23katied
@23katied 2 жыл бұрын
HI Devinder. I'm really happy you find the videos and book helpful. Thanks for letting me know.
@yawssdin699
@yawssdin699 2 жыл бұрын
Between this video and the video about being OCD about the treatment of OCD, I think finally now I have a strategy to overcome my OCD: it seems like it's entirely different way of viewing OCD and thoughts in general, just being okay with things and trusting your intuition and letting your thoughts go without passing judgment on them; it's an attitude, it's a mindset, it's a state of being to live without OCD, not labeling any of your thoughts or behaviors, but recognizing when you are anxious, yet not responding to anxiety with some sort of compulsive behaviors, but instead letting the thoughts go just as you would let any thoughts go. Then, in the end, it doesn't matter if you watched enough videos or read enough documentation or learned enough; you can still just start working on your OCD right now and remember that you will eventually feel better over time only if you let yourself let go enough to finally stop obsessing over everything so much. Thank you very much, Katie! I really appreciate you and I really appreciate your videos so much!
@23katied
@23katied 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad to hear that you have had this lightbulb moment and that you are interacting with your thoughts and feelings differently now. Thank you so much for sharing as I think it's so important for others to hear success stories.
@purr3568
@purr3568 2 жыл бұрын
I really love your videos! I suffer from extreme ocd and I find your videos very helpful. I’m glad I came across your channel!!
@downspiral
@downspiral Жыл бұрын
What makes it intrusive is you. You imbue it with that meaning that it is an attack on your wellbeing. When you change the meaning, it is just another thought, even if these thoughts follow specific traits. Great video, incredibly helpful with my towing with OCD.
@user-kp6ss8sx8m
@user-kp6ss8sx8m 2 жыл бұрын
Hi katie! This video is a treasure. It is so helpful, I love the example about the annoying neighbor. I feel so privileged you dedicate your experience as a therapist to help us through your videos. I always feel happy when I find a youtuber that provides high quality content ❤. Thank you so much from Chile!! 🇨🇱👍❤
@23katied
@23katied 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Andrea. You are so welcome. I'm glad you find the videos helpful.
@robd2650
@robd2650 Жыл бұрын
I haven't totally gotten my head around this yet, but it sounds absolutely brilliant. A bit courageous as well, seeing what's been established up to this point. Thanks much for your insights. I think I'll try this approach to dealing with thoughts.
@shyaaammeneen63
@shyaaammeneen63 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. For overthinking problem be careful what you feed your mind. Avoid comparing yourself with others, reduce watching negative social media and vulgar movies and avoid constipation as it affects the mind. Your breathing is closely related to the brain [mind] and gives relief from stress-anxiety. For a relaxed mind observe the sensations of your natural incoming--outgoing breath at the entrance of the nostrils for 10-15 minutes or more. You can sit or lay down--eyes closed--No deep breathing. Don’t fight your thoughts. Never meditate with expectations. Make it a life-time habit to observe your breath day and night before sleep, at work, when travelling, etc with eyes open or closed. Best wishes--Counsellor.
@mr.wigglemunch3856
@mr.wigglemunch3856 Жыл бұрын
I love you Katie. You're one of those few people taping into my demons. nobody ever comes there and because you do i don't feel completely alone.
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
Hey just wondering how you’re getting on with this now cheers
@zzzcocopepe
@zzzcocopepe 2 жыл бұрын
This is really novel and I really appreciate this perspective. I think it's important to identify things, I think that's a step in the process. And I think it's important to break down that identity when it's time to move on. Like for example, let's say you have depression. Accepting and identifying and acknowledging that is an important part of the process. And then once you've worked through your problems and you're ready to be happy again, you really are ready, that's when it's time to let go of that identity. And a lot of people hate me when I say this, I got a lot of flak online for this. But I haven't heard any kind of argument against it that makes any sense. Just a lot of wailing and flailing against it.
@HookBeak_66
@HookBeak_66 Жыл бұрын
An OCD moment takes hold; one, two, three , four checking that I've locked the door. Five, six, seven, eight if this continues I might be late. It's one thing being thorough but not to the extent of an OCD moment. I can certainly relate to what Katie d'Ath says.
@edwardtomkinson3418
@edwardtomkinson3418 2 жыл бұрын
With my Intrusive thoughts I see the outcome in my mind which is scary and it’s hard to ignore at times especially when it becomes sexual.
@stevemelvin7308
@stevemelvin7308 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your videos. I have a bad case of OCD, my checking of water taps and door locks and many other objects drains me every day. I'm glad you are helping others and myself with these short but informative videos.
@23katied
@23katied 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you are finding them helpful.
@contiki6277
@contiki6277 2 жыл бұрын
I am so glad that you are making videos again,In the past i watched your videos and i must say that they helped me.I dont want to get on medication again because of the side effects and especially the effect they have concerning your sex life. i cannot afford to pay for a psychoherapist.my ocd is worsening everyday ,i have ocd with almost every object in my house ,especially the things that i care about like my pc.I spend hours and days on checking the cables inside and outside of the case not to touch one another to the point i wish i could die just to end this suffering.The other day i bang my head to a door because of my extreme anxiety.i!!Hyperawareness ,checking etc its part of my every day life.Every 2 minutes or so i am checking on things and very often i hurt my hands or my back pretty bad because of the crazy postures i make to check on things or squezzing very hard with my hands on something until i make sure its ok and of course it almost never is, .My friends dont understand and i cant blame them ,my family the same. I am so alone and i have no one to realy talk to about this.I have ocd for as long i can remember .It destroyed my life completely.A times that my ocd is "sleeping"i am a happy person and i can be the soul of the party but unfortunately that doesnt last for very long.Thank you so much for your help.You are an angel and i mean that!
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
Hey just wondering how you’re getting on now, cheers
@kimihugh6658
@kimihugh6658 Жыл бұрын
You are not alone.
@aprilmargaret6135
@aprilmargaret6135 2 жыл бұрын
Hello. Do you have any videos on health OCD? I have a problem with constant checking for health problems
@mamathadasari9664
@mamathadasari9664 Жыл бұрын
Would u please help me with some suggestions as I am worried due to OCD caused due to perfection about teeth whenever i touch my teeth the intrusive thoughts are hitiiing me very badly and I don't know how to come out of this pls can u give your valuable suggestions because mine is serious concern of OCD
@hectornieves6507
@hectornieves6507 Жыл бұрын
My name is Hector i have a friend that has OCD and I am trying to help her to control her obsessive thoughts I might be the cause of some of them what do I do to help her???
@jaranarm
@jaranarm 2 жыл бұрын
How true these words ring. What's intrusive is actually what you do, think and feel after the certain thoughts take place. My OCD is centered around health, namely prevention from sickness and death. Any test results, good or not, trigger an endless assortment of ruminating what-if catastrophic doomsday scenarios all day every day that it's become almost impossible to take care of myself with any trust or confidence. The OCD tells me what's the point of putting in all this effort if you're going to die like everyone else anyway, or how I failed to stay healthy so give it up because I'm an incompetent person no matter what, or how I better keep checking every little thing with doctors frequently and taking note of every single bodily sensation, the list goes on and on. This is no way to live. What's been helping me is delaying any compulsive acts and mental reassurances for upwards of 10-15 minutes until my brain gets tired of pushing me to immediately do something about the thoughts. This is the toughest battle of my life and it's made me hate life itself.
@itsRichieArts
@itsRichieArts 2 жыл бұрын
Wishing you the strength to get through this, I know the struggle. I hope you know that you’re not alone and that things can get better. Although it takes so much. I wish you well.
@jaranarm
@jaranarm 2 жыл бұрын
@@itsRichieArts Thank you so much!
@05665575
@05665575 Жыл бұрын
Please help on my one of the worst OCD : Pictures uploaded by me makes me feel guilty of harming someone because intrusive thoughts pop-ups in mind while uploading, in order to stop thoughts I say opposite of intrusive thoughts or negative for myself so that it won't apply for others..If things dont happens according to me .. I again upload that picture by saying opposite in mind to stop intrusive images and thoughts. And If I get relief anyhow then new intrusive thoughts disturbs me for the same action.
@mdderrek9280
@mdderrek9280 Жыл бұрын
I suffered from SEVERE OCD to the extent it deprived me of the ability to drink, eat, sleep, and move around. It is under the category of Scrupulosity and Magical Thinking to be precise. I live in a country where Psychiatrists know nothing. They gave me tons of medication which - to my observation and my personal experience - had no positive effects at all. I spent all I have on nothing and I shouldn't stop medication on my own, but at the same time, I can't afford to buy them anymore. ERP (Exposure- Response Prevention) therapy worked well for me. BUT it seems that I have to practice it on a very frequent basis, even when I am doing OK. When I feel ( i am fine now), I spend a good time, then suddenly OCD gets me off-guard. In these situations, it seems like some skills got rusted and had to be refreshed again. Now, when OCD strikes, I try (not to think about it) because if I do, it is a lost battle and I will yield to my compulsions. I am not sure if this approach is helping me in the long term because I always feel on the edge and I might fall. Please advice. Thank you!
@yathartharora6096
@yathartharora6096 2 жыл бұрын
hello mam i have been a great admirer of you..can u please help me..I have around 30 days left for my final exams..i am trying my best to let go of the OCD thoughts but every time I experience it i become very confused and anxious so I perform compulsions to stop wasting my time which helps me in the short term gain.plz tell should I continue to ignore these thoughts or perform compulsion for this period of time?
@duulccee92
@duulccee92 Жыл бұрын
Hi Katie, how do you work with OCD that you pretty much have to do everyday ,like drinking water I get this fear thinking about it then I do it and I am okay then I keep the loop going, like I feel stress thinking about it
@elaRRman
@elaRRman 2 жыл бұрын
i am having this instrusive thoughts for almost a year now . Basically i have random thoughts about hurting people or sexual thoughts and before i realise it was OCD i thought i was goin crazy and that caused me huge amounts of anxiety . Eventually i did one session with a psychologist and the fact that this is just the result of an "illness" and am not going crazy helped me a lot . Thoughts are still arounds here and there . Some days they are more intense some other days i dont even have em at all . One method i saw from your channel is the train one . i treat them as these thoughts were a train and by known am in full charge of my self and would never hurt anyone , i just let the train pass(thoughts) and dont give a crap about it . Its a struggle still , sometimes the anxiety from this thoughts is kinda annoying but am getting throu it . Thanx for your videos !
@dane6730
@dane6730 Жыл бұрын
I hope this works for most people. My thoughts urges etc, when at their peak, our almost constant. Repeating phrases several times a minute. Thoughts are so constant I can’t focus on the road. The only thing that makes it better is medication. Medication reduces them enough to do ERP. If you’re still struggling while implementing these strategies., know there are other ways. Not everyone responds the same. ❤
@AgarioSplitrunner
@AgarioSplitrunner 2 жыл бұрын
@5:00 minute: I understand how re-labeling and reframing could be counterproductive. So in what situation should we then use reframing exactly?
@jennaohlsten
@jennaohlsten 2 жыл бұрын
How can you identify if something is a compulsion or not?
@mikelummis369
@mikelummis369 2 жыл бұрын
Really good point, Katie. Not making the thought important. I suffer from harm obsessions and this is a helpful tip. Thanks.
@23katied
@23katied 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Mike
@eileenfaulkner5385
@eileenfaulkner5385 2 жыл бұрын
This is really helpful to hear, as this has always been my thoughts about “intrusive thoughts” 👍
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
Hey just wondering how you’re getting on now, cheers
2 жыл бұрын
Love your video Katie, have a good day! :)
@tacticleeskharoufeh5408
@tacticleeskharoufeh5408 Жыл бұрын
hello, Katie grateful for your videos keep up the good work I am doing very well in terms of my OCD. when I break the cycle of OCD (last only a couple of days) I usually don't get intrusive thoughts for weeks or months but when they come back what gets to me is not the intrusive thought itself but the sadness or the idea that my OCD might last a lifetime can you do a video on how to overcome this or accept it? Thank you again appreciate your response
@jsharma7912
@jsharma7912 2 жыл бұрын
I am suffering from Ocd lots of thoughts. I am really tired from these thoughts. I want to talk to you mam. Listen me to clear my past traumas.
@muneermuneer8605
@muneermuneer8605 Жыл бұрын
Hi Katie, I am having constant intrusive thoughts, my OCD latches onto anything that’s that’s harmful. I can have very disturbing images and sometimes can come as a voice, is this OCD or something else?
@giannis6552
@giannis6552 2 жыл бұрын
I am getting rid of my OCD, but I am getting addicted to your videos :)
@ibenbakandersen
@ibenbakandersen 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting angle on these thoughts. I can see the point. But does that also apply if you call it pleasant thoughts or the opposite unpleasant thoughts? Is this okay?
@23katied
@23katied 2 жыл бұрын
interesting question. I guess it depends what your intention is in labelling the thoughts. Why not just call them all thoughts? Surely you already know if they are pleasant or unpleasant? I'm just cautious that by labelling you are not trying to reassure yourself that you find the thoughts unpleasant...
@giannis6552
@giannis6552 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Katie, I would like to ask if some intrusive thoughts that happen subconsciously during sleep/dreams, can be considered as exposure and apply response prevention for those?
@pumpkin1982
@pumpkin1982 10 ай бұрын
Sometimes they feel as if they come out of nowhere, then after that they can become ones you create because you keep assigning meaning.
@matthewakagi
@matthewakagi Жыл бұрын
On your video about attention training, can it be done with thoughts or does it have to be sound specifically
@23katied
@23katied Жыл бұрын
Research is done using sounds and it's definitely the best way to start. As the problem is how you process the thoughts it's hard to start this way but yes in the end the idea is that doing the attention training with sounds makes it easier for you to then choose to do it with thoughts BUT remember that you are always aiming to refocus your attention elsewhere not replace/change/push away a thought.
@kingmarcus7215
@kingmarcus7215 2 жыл бұрын
What do you do when people can hear your thoughts?
@akarsh345
@akarsh345 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Katie, I would like to know what kind of erp will be useful if I have ocd of driving over someone
@23katied
@23katied 2 жыл бұрын
Work out what you do to avoid or minimise the risk and then do the opposite. So for example if you drive extra slowly, speed up. Once you know what you avoid or what you do to try and make sure that thing doesn't happen you have everything you need to do good solid ERP as I've described in other videos.
@artsyalkalearnandgrowbeaut3731
@artsyalkalearnandgrowbeaut3731 Жыл бұрын
How do I deal with abuses in my mind?
@KJF839
@KJF839 2 жыл бұрын
What do you suggest if an individual (such as myself) has ADHD, OCD, and Misophonia? I feel like the OCD causes the obsessive thinking/intrusive thoughts of my sound triggers, and the Misophonia causes the terrible reaction (anger) to those intrusive thoughts. I heard that ERP can make the symptoms worse if what you experience is anger, but can make it better if what you experience is anxiety. What do you think is the best course of action? Your feedback is very helpful.
@Fzs6
@Fzs6 2 жыл бұрын
Could you make a video of hyperawareness ocd please?
@davidcookson4043
@davidcookson4043 Жыл бұрын
So it's NOT the thought that counts? Better return these flowers then. Seriously though these discussions are great thank you!
@23katied
@23katied Жыл бұрын
Ha ha! I like it. But actually you make a good point. These phrases that are seen as a harmless part of speech are actually quite detrimental as they fuel the idea that thoughts have power...
@shri4867
@shri4867 2 жыл бұрын
It was very insightful... My OCD changes.. Presently I got this someone watching... I am aware that no one is... But it makes me anxious and it repeats 24 7..non stop.. Get that fear from a particular area of home... Just not able to get rid of thought... What to do.????
@omshelke4286
@omshelke4286 Жыл бұрын
Hi Mam i have been watching all your videos and they are been very effective for me thank you for guiding to people dealing with OCD and i have also overcome very much after watching your videos.
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
Hey just wondering how you’re getting on with this now cheers
@mallory816
@mallory816 2 жыл бұрын
What's the difference between someone with OCD and someone who actually commits the thoughts we are worried about. That maybe a silly question but Lol like how do you know you actually won't murder someone or push someone of a cliff. When people have actually done those things. Do they have OCD? But actually do the crime or clearly something different. I guess maybe they don't have a fear of doing it, or does the fear makes it a reality for some? Where's the line in the sand?
@lunamaru65431
@lunamaru65431 Жыл бұрын
Can anyone extend some advice please? I’m struggling with horrific anxiety and harm OCD. I’m now experiencing emotional numbness which is a new symptom of my anxiety. I’m trying very hard to listen, engage and absorb information but it’s almost like my brain won’t allow me to absorb or “feel” anything to start healing. Is this just me or can anyone else relate? Thank you.
@robinmantell6140
@robinmantell6140 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I had the same! The first step is to see a well rated specialist (Psychiatrist). It will cost a few hundred but best decision I had ever made after struggling for years (Only now 23 Years old). From there a combination of medication / other stuff will get you feeling back to feeling normal again. God Bless!
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
@@robinmantell6140 hey just wondering how you’re getting on with this, any tops many thanks
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
Hey just wondering how you’re on with this, cheers
@lunamaru65431
@lunamaru65431 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesjohnstone1224 Hi James. So I had to take a short course of sedatives prescribed from my GP and started counselling. I’m trying to change my relationship with food and exercise a bit more but the main thing is acceptance. I’ve listened to some amazing Audiobooks and the common theme amongst them all is around retraining the brain into accepting the fear and nervous energy. Have you’d tried any Apps?
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
@@lunamaru65431 thanks so much for your reply ! Absolutely I’m finding that a lot that acceptance is so so important, so have you improved since you wrote that comment
@XerxesLangrana
@XerxesLangrana 2 жыл бұрын
I have been suffering from anxiety disorder for 17 years. I have had a multitude of phobias which have surfaced during this period. Right now I am experiencing strong anxiety and intrusive thoughts about heights, and spaces which contain glass walls. The intrusive thoughts are about losing control in these environments - urges of jumping off heights or crashing through glass walls or doors. However, I have never been suicidal nor have I had issues with heights before. This problem is severely restricting me from doing normal day to day activities - not able to go into buildings or places with precipices, shops with glass doors and frontages. I understand what you are saying that these thoughts are just like any thoughts, and I am "labeling" them, so they hang around in a powerful way making me believe in them, but for the life of me, I am not being able to find a workaround despite knowing this.
@23katied
@23katied 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion in a case like this behavioural work will be much more powerful for you. List all the things you fear and then all the safety behaviours you have (lots of avoidance by the sound of it!) and then you can start to work on it. For example, I worked with a woman who could not get to work because she could no longer get down the stairs from her flat because of her fear of falling down them. Amongst other things she would go super slowly - faltering at the top and then testing the step gingerly whilst holding onto the banister but leaning away from it to try and stay safer. As you can imagine these things made walking down the stairs harder and actually less safe! So what did we do? Once she was clear that the things she was doing were making everything worse we got her to start doing the opposite. To start with she could not do the exercise from the top of the stairs so she came down on her bottom and then stood and did the exercise from about the fourth step from the bottom. She had to let go of the railing, not look down, stand close to the railing edge rather than try and get away from it and then quickly walk down (because she went slowly - had she been rushing down the stairs to get it over with we would have got her to go slowly). She also swung her handbag as this she feared would put her off balance. We did this over and over for a couple of hours each time her going further up the stairs - I also go her to do things like eat or drink something whilst coming down as she feared that this might break her concentration. This is not an exact template for what you should do beacuse it all depends on working out what you do to try and minimise the problem and then do the opposite. So maybe you need to go and hang out in some glass buildings and waltz around some glass walls....
@infoentertainment2527
@infoentertainment2527 2 жыл бұрын
Dr can sharing water bottle daily can effect habit or body
@mamanikhatun3887
@mamanikhatun3887 2 жыл бұрын
Hello ma'am! Thank you so much for helping us. I have OCD & pure OCD. I'm improving myself by watching your videos. But a thought is repeatedly asking me.. If I do this ( one of my fearful acts ) what will they ( family or friends ) think of me ?? The rest of the life what will they think about me?.. Because I have my doubts as to whether I did the act or not. I'm unable to move forward because of this thought. Please help me ma'am 🙏
@23katied
@23katied 2 жыл бұрын
Yes that sounds like a good way of your mind trying to stop you doing things which you find fearful.... trick is to practice not listening too hard to those things and act as if you don't believe them even if they feel very real.
@mamanikhatun3887
@mamanikhatun3887 2 жыл бұрын
@@23katied At first thank you so much ma'am for replying me. It means a lot to me. Ma'am, I can't help but think of this. This is an important issue so I can't take it lightly. It's actually a thing of the past, I doubt I did. So over and over again, I think they might think badly of me. What do I do in this situation?
@ao6606
@ao6606 2 жыл бұрын
can you make content about reading ocd maam please
@themightychannel4860
@themightychannel4860 2 жыл бұрын
Can OCD thoughts start with ‘I wish’ or sudden horrible thought/feeling when hearing news? The total opposite from what you want to think, it’s like my brain thinks the opposite from what I want it too. I have sooo many weird thoughts and when I’ve looked them up online they are common but this one I can’t find any proper facts on? I have been doing loads of work on this as I want to beat it I listened to hours of help podcasts at work, Any help appreciated thanks Justine
@srishtysamal8600
@srishtysamal8600 2 жыл бұрын
Heyyy! Same thing happens with me. My mind goes like "I wish (and then comes the bad and negative thoughts). And this happens with the cruelest of thoughts, and these are usually about my loved ones. The problem is I feel such thoughts, so I do repetitive compulsions in my mind to make myself believe that this is not something that I actually want to happen, cause every thought feels so real. Sometimes it feels as if I'm intentionally thinking such things. That's when I get all anxious and guilty. I don't know what to do. This feeling of "did I think this on purpose or maybe I did" hasn't been addressed really, and that's what makes me feel even more terrible that what if I'm the only one who feels such things? I don't even know whether this is normal or not and I don't know what to do. I feel really helpless at times.
@user-jz5tm8hg5x
@user-jz5tm8hg5x 9 ай бұрын
@@srishtysamal8600 how are you getting along now? I’ve been dealing with the same thing for a few months now. It’s unfortunately about my child and it’s killing me. I cry everyday and am becoming depressed.
@randominternetuser531
@randominternetuser531 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Katie, Can you do a video about false memory ocd ! love your videos
@bertarissen6568
@bertarissen6568 Жыл бұрын
There's no such thing as intrusive thoughts, only unwanted thoughts. And the more unwanted these thoughts are specific to you, the harder it becomes to simply put them aside. As Kathie mentioned earlier, there is also no such thing as your OCD. It is not about the thought at all, but the way in which you think about the thought and people with OCD have something in common in that respect. And even in people who have been diagnosed with pure OCD, you can capitalize the C, although not clearly recognizable. It's all in the brain people, and there are billions of brains and therefore billions of differences, but in a scan all OCD-ers show the same (interesting) pattern, namely an overactive cortico-striatal-thalamo-cortical (CSTC) loop.Take it from me you don't think too little, you think too much!
@desktopaccount8564
@desktopaccount8564 2 жыл бұрын
Hello doctor, I recently read that the autism spectrum disorder has subtypes and it includes OCD. Does that mean that OCD is type of autism or it's just that they share compulsive behaviors. Thank you.
@23katied
@23katied 2 жыл бұрын
Just that they can often come together.
@RandomPerson-rf4jf
@RandomPerson-rf4jf Жыл бұрын
Hey, so as of recently I've been doubting everything that I say or think about, this problem started around 2 and a half months ago after I suddenly panicked over my exam. Like anything I say, do, or think about I doubt it. Even like if I'm reading or taking notes in class I doubt if I read it correctly or if I know the meaning of the words or if I took my notes correctly. Like I doubt nearly every single thing that I do. Is this OCD or is it just fear or something, I am only 15... what is going on? If you could help or tell me what it is, it could truly change my life and the situation I am in right now.
@Dobbyisfree000
@Dobbyisfree000 Жыл бұрын
Could be ocd. This is how it started for me. After many traumatic events. I always doubt and re check and then do it all over again. I would still be in doubt abt the issue.
@RandomPerson-rf4jf
@RandomPerson-rf4jf Жыл бұрын
@@Dobbyisfree000 Yeah man it really sucks. Though recently I've been trying to let the thought stay and not pay too much attention to it, and I can feel the thoughts losing their power, I really hope it's not OCD. The thing is that unlike a lot of other people i've heard and read about, my thoughts started losing power like 2 days after I changed stuff... so idk if it's OCD or not.
@savannah90
@savannah90 Жыл бұрын
Oh myy- it shocked me when i read your comment. Because you is what i am experiencing rn and everyday. The worst is when i read the Bible the words of God i started to doubt it, a lot of strange thoughts Popping out in my head and i am just getting sad because God knows my thoughts. Like my mind trying to give everything a meaning what i think.. you don't know how i feel relive the moment i read your comment. I hope you too that you're not the only one experiencing this. May we successfully win our battle through the Lord Jesus Christ who strengthens us. ❤️❤️❤️❤️
@RandomPerson-rf4jf
@RandomPerson-rf4jf Жыл бұрын
@@savannah90 I completely agree. One thing that really helps me is that all of this that is happening is a part of God's plan. It's all happening for a reason, before all of this I had been leading a very sinful life, but after all of this, I put my trust in God and now I'm far closer to him. Knowing all of this is happening for a reason brings great comfort. Although nowadays after watching such videos and kinda learning how to deal with these thoughts I've been feeling better, they come back from time to time. Hopefully, it doesn't stay for too much longer as they can sometimes interfere with school 😅. I would say just keep your faith in him, and try to not fight with these thoughts but rather just accept them.
@savannah90
@savannah90 Жыл бұрын
@@RandomPerson-rf4jf yes absolutely true. Anyway where you come from? What country you're from? I'm from Philippines
@Mmm-hs2ko
@Mmm-hs2ko 2 жыл бұрын
Hello katie, I’m a med student. I have OCD. Recently, i started thinking about epilepsy. I fear epilepsy and i keep thinking of it. Every sensation i feel in my head generates in me extreme fear of beginning to do seizures. My OCD has worsen these thoughts; the more i tell myself “stop thinking about epilepsy, you’re making your brain more prone to do seizures”, the more i panick, and the more i get headache, and the more i get to think that I’ll have epilepsy because of these headaches. I tend to deal well with OCD (and this is partly because of your help and videos which i thank you a lot for❤️) but I can’t get to sneak out from this obsessive cycle. What has worsen these thoughts are the headaches i get 😭 (psychosomatic symptoms). Can you make a video about OCD with obsessive thoughts about having a certain disease, and how to deal with it? This will really help me cz I’ll be studying all the diseases in my medical journey and i cannot deal anymore with these obsessive thoughts everytime i feel a little symptom that resembles to what i studied but does not mean exactly that i have the disease.
@23katied
@23katied 2 жыл бұрын
I'll add it to the list. In the meantime you might want to check out the book 'Overcoming Health Anxiety' by David Veale and Rob Willson.
@akshayrjain1599
@akshayrjain1599 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Katie. Can u pls guide me on this problem. I have reading and checking OCD . I basically work as a accountant. My work is filing tax returns, preparing accounts and my OCD has targeted that. For instance, amount - 12,58,675. I will first reread the number to ensure I read it correctly and after that will enter the number in another file and check whether the number is entered correctly. Since I deal with numbers , I end up rereading and checking numbers 50-100 times a day making it so difficult to work . I believe ur idea of anti OCD ( doing the opposite of what the OCD wants ) . But I am not able to find what could be anti OCD in my case. I am afraid that if I don't reread & check the number, I might file a wrong tax return , my employer will scold me etc . I believe my main problem is rereading because that's what promotes checking . I struggle a lot in reading .Would be grateful if u could guide me. This obsession has ruined my life . Thank you ..
@23katied
@23katied 2 жыл бұрын
The question is what is worse - definitely maintaining the OCD through checking or learning to live with the discomfort of not rereading and potentially getting something wrong and getting in trouble from your employer?
@akshayrjain1599
@akshayrjain1599 2 жыл бұрын
@@23katied Thank you for your reply. It's certainly maintaining the OCD through rereading & checking is worse . But it's difficult to control the urge to not reread . Any tips on how to challenge reading OCD more rigorously ?
@cairodensarip934
@cairodensarip934 2 жыл бұрын
Just embrace the thoughts.. watch a picture or video and gaze at it without judgement.. its weird but it worked for me
@upasanasaikia2163
@upasanasaikia2163 2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I am going through and I was labelling these thoughts as intrusive as I feel sometimes very very guilty... so thanks Katie.. I really feel good after watching this video...
@23katied
@23katied 2 жыл бұрын
Great, I'm glad it's helped.
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
Hey just wondering how you’re getting on, cheers
@upasanasaikia2163
@upasanasaikia2163 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesjohnstone1224 hello james.. honestly speaking its still there. And I dont think I will ever get rid of my thoughts and on the top of that I am an over thinker😅..but the good thing is I am atleast not blaming myself, not thinking as I am the only one. Even if a thought arise I can make myself understand that it is just a thought.. our thoughts are over rated. It do not define me. And also I have spoken about it to my loved ones too. And that made me feel far better bcoz they atleast tried to understand without being judgemental. Hope you are doing good @james😊
@texanbogman2
@texanbogman2 Жыл бұрын
Is it possible to get rid of a single thought?
@23katied
@23katied Жыл бұрын
I replied to this on one of the other videos for you.
@michaelperea8300
@michaelperea8300 2 жыл бұрын
@katie d'Ath , thank you so much for your videos. I was diagnosed with OCD in December 2021. This is all new to me, but I can say that your videos have helped me a ton. Could you do one on ROCD? Why does the doubt of not loving a partner feel so real when everything has been so well? Attraction, fantasies and lust on others I know is normal, but it feels so frightening. It has brought shame and guilt and so much doubt. How does one even do ERP with these types of thoughts? Where does one begin? Please and thank you.
@etal.038
@etal.038 2 жыл бұрын
I would also like to learn about this!
@23katied
@23katied 2 жыл бұрын
AH yes, I will put this on the to do list, but for now I have two suggestions - firstly check out www.rocd.net if you haven't already as they have loads of great resources and secondly remember that the content of your OCD is irrelevant (I know this is super hard) so when you are listening to these videos or looking at other resources bear that in mind and see if you can adapt the advice. The biggest thing for you will probably be about stopping trying to get certainty...
@joshfrizzell3936
@joshfrizzell3936 2 жыл бұрын
Katie D'Ath what can I tell myself when a thought pops up as I'm trying to wash my hands or take a shower? I get in a cycle and it's extremely exhausting. Never fails.
@duulccee92
@duulccee92 Жыл бұрын
What type of ocd you got?
@joshfrizzell3936
@joshfrizzell3936 Жыл бұрын
@@duulccee92 body fluid contamination ocd along with every other type as well smh. Literally every type
@moonell
@moonell 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't realised for years that what I have is OCD, even though there were signs my whole life. I didn't like the idea of having OCD, it didn't sound right, I wasn't a neurotic person needing to control every little thing all the time (which is what my idea of OCD used to be). But me not liking it didn't have the slightest impact on me having or not having it. I think similar thing goes with what you say in this video - at first it was a relief to learn there is a name for the thoughts that pop up in my head and they are essentially "just a symptom" of an illness I am dealing with, but the more I think about it, the more I agree that in the long run it can help vilify your own internal processes and give them power through calling them a name. BUT I also think it can help in the beginning to kind of understand what you need to focus on, where the trouble is - in these thoughts. And then later on you can learn how to re-wire your brain to respond to these thoughts differently.
@23katied
@23katied 2 жыл бұрын
It's really important to remember though that the trouble is not in the thoughts but in our reaction and response to them....
@srishtysamal8600
@srishtysamal8600 2 жыл бұрын
I get a lot of bad and negative thoughts about my loved ones. At times I feel aware that something like this is gonna come in my head and before I can control or prevent it from coming, it's too late. The thought has entered, the anxiety or the numbness has already kicked in. And there are times when it feels as if I'm thinking these intentionally and that's when I start feeling guilty and very anxious. Is this something that's normal?
@fcb1149
@fcb1149 2 жыл бұрын
I have the same problem 😕 I constantly get horrible thoughts in my head 24/7 . I don't think it's normal the only time I get away from my thoughts is when I'm sleeping . These random thoughts just pop into my head unexpectedly I can't control them . I constantly pray that my thoughts don't harm anyone and for them to never become real but that just gives me more anxiety .
@suhaibodat7154
@suhaibodat7154 2 жыл бұрын
@@fcb1149 same and it’s a nightmare really
@TianaSledge
@TianaSledge 2 жыл бұрын
@@fcb1149 keep praying and trusting that The Most High God will guide you. Give thanks that you cannot and will not do them and that’s the TRUTH! I pray we all get the ability to overcome because God has given us that and Jesus came and taught that. We have to give it to him continuously in prayer and allow him to reveal it to us the steps and words to say(his words) He will answer in Jesus name
@toekneelorenzo2942
@toekneelorenzo2942 2 жыл бұрын
@@fcb1149 ok anyone wT dies anxiety feel like? Is it like a nervous feeling scared. Like why am u thinking this thought.
@shyaaammeneen63
@shyaaammeneen63 Жыл бұрын
@@fcb1149 For overthinking problem be careful what you feed your mind. Avoid comparing yourself with others, reduce watching negative social media and vulgar movies and avoid constipation as it affects the mind. Your breathing is closely related to the brain [mind] and gives relief from stress-anxiety. For a relaxed mind observe the sensations of your natural incoming--outgoing breath at the entrance of the nostrils for 10-15 minutes or more. You can sit or lay down--eyes closed--No deep breathing. Don’t fight your thoughts. Never meditate with expectations. Make it a habit to observe your breath day and night before sleep, at work, when travelling, in the park, etc with eyes open or closed. Best wishes--Counsellor.
@cleverhandle420
@cleverhandle420 2 жыл бұрын
Yea it’s wild to me sometimes bc I will have a harm thought and be like “oh sad” “wild” “crazy” if I react to it at all but like anything sexually suggestive, even hearing the word “hard” causes an immediate spike in anxiety for me. It took a long time and many arguments with my therapist for me to admit that I was interacting with some of my thoughts in very unhealthy unhelpful ways.
@23katied
@23katied 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this. I think it is sometimes so difficult for people to observe how they are actually responding to the thoughts or feelings - it can feel like you are doing nothing when without realising it you might be doing something unhelpful. Well done for getting there - it's a massive step in the right direction.
@robwayne8322
@robwayne8322 4 ай бұрын
Is there a term for your mind using something you did that you feel bad about and using it by saying if you did this - then you’ll do that. It’s almost like my mind uses guilt I have for one thing and using that guilt to somehow fuel ocd for something totally unrelated?
@23katied
@23katied 4 ай бұрын
There probably is a term but I am never good at remembering these things as I'm more about practical intervention (that's my excuse anyway!). Sounds like you probably have an underlying belief about being bad in someway and so your OCD looks for evidence in your past and uses it to create worry about how you could behave in the future.
@lijmoo
@lijmoo 2 жыл бұрын
I like this way of looking at OCD. I think I'm in recovery, for the most part, because I've really tried to actively stop giving OCD so much "special treatment" in my head and in my perspective and attitude. I've tried to "radically accept" it too - "I have thoughts about harming others," not, "Those thoughts aren't me/you." I see a lot of well meaning people mean well in help forums say that to others, but I think it's a disservice and "covert reassurance"! You ARE 100% having thoughts about harming others AND you are you. They're not separate things.
@23katied
@23katied 2 жыл бұрын
Yes this is a good point. I often hear of people being told their thoughts "aren't true" etc and whilst this may be the case it is unhelpful as, like you say, it provides reassurance which does not last and actually ends up compounding the problem.
@lijmoo
@lijmoo 2 жыл бұрын
@@23katied that's it! They ARE true, because you ARE having them; that doesn't mean you like them or agree with them, that's a different thing. Definitely a lot to be said (for me at least) to own up to this "reality" and accept that the thoughts are coming from me, and there's nothing I can do about it lol - strangely, kinda liberating!
@23katied
@23katied 2 жыл бұрын
@@lijmoo I don't engage in any chat about true or not with people as I know it doesn't help - but it's definitely true you are having them as you say!
@infoentertainment2527
@infoentertainment2527 2 жыл бұрын
Like someone's habit is like bullying or I am drinking his shared water and I have been effected
@berniemcdonagh8150
@berniemcdonagh8150 2 жыл бұрын
Please help me. I can’t live my life. It’s ruining my life. I am not diagnosed but I think I have it. I can’t go on about my normal everyday life for the past 8 months. It’s really bad really bad thoughts making me question everything. It’s pocd I am suffering
@zain4019
@zain4019 2 жыл бұрын
ERP therapy treatment (exposure response prevention) will aid you greatly. Be gentle with yourself, be gentle. You will look back one day, and with happiness, for you will have overcome this. Bless you my friend.
@tacticleeskharoufeh5408
@tacticleeskharoufeh5408 Жыл бұрын
watch joe Dispenza this person really helped me to break my OCD cycle and how not to react to everything that your brain says and you have the ability to choose not to believe what your brain says (sometimes our brain lies to us) also what really helped me is becoming a different person do different (new learn a new ability) things in order to create a new self with new and different brain connections. also, stop asking yourself why is this happening to me instead ask what I can do to improve my condition
@berniemcdonagh8150
@berniemcdonagh8150 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much I’m only seeing this now. I really appreciate this
@berniemcdonagh8150
@berniemcdonagh8150 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much I just see this now
@shyaaammeneen63
@shyaaammeneen63 Жыл бұрын
@@berniemcdonagh8150 For overthinking problem be careful what you feed your mind. Avoid comparing yourself with others, reduce watching negative social media and avoid constipation as it affects the mind. Your breathing is closely related to the brain [mind] and gives relief from stress-anxiety. For a relaxed mind observe the sensations of your natural incoming--outgoing breath at the entrance of the nostrils for 10-15 minutes or more. You can sit or lay down--eyes closed--No deep breathing. Don’t fight your thoughts. Never meditate with expectations. Make it a habit to observe your breath day and night before sleep, at work, when travelling, etc with eyes open or closed. Best wishes--Counsellor.
@mushfiqulislam-6196
@mushfiqulislam-6196 2 жыл бұрын
Katie, Recently Im feeling like i dont have any thoughts but i still feel anxious,irritated, tension in my brain or more likely a discomfortable feeling. Now how do i do ERP? Btw love your work :)
@23katied
@23katied 2 жыл бұрын
Can you think of anything that would make you feel more anxious, irritated or tense? If so, you can use these things to do ERP.
@mushfiqulislam-6196
@mushfiqulislam-6196 2 жыл бұрын
@@23katied Actually my discomfort feelings aren't attached with any specific thoughts,theme. But what i noticed is that doing nothing sometimes causes more discomfort. Is it a bit mixture of just right ocd and pure O type?
@safaelaasri464
@safaelaasri464 8 ай бұрын
Y give realistic and very good advices thank y
@somethingbetter4801
@somethingbetter4801 2 жыл бұрын
To whoever having an insane hard time dealing with OCD, i know it is not the proper solution, but as an alternative to dealing with it and kinda stop stressing your brain/mind /soul with this issue, start using your smartphone camera to capture everything through the day that you need to check in order to keep functioning through the day and not keep wasting a lot of time from your day because of it, another tip about the smartphone camera is to use, if you need to, the burst mode on your camera, so for example my smartphone camera can take to 100 pictures in like 10 seconds using the burst mode, so it gives me peace of mind now that i know about that feature, it may be helpful to you if you are needing some alternative as i said to dealing with it. I want to be clear that i am not trying to be irresponsible with what i am sharing right now, again i am sharing it as an alternative to dealing with this issue RIGHT NOW in the meantime until you feel its the time or you feel ok to seek professional help while still trying to function through the day.
@somethingbetter4801
@somethingbetter4801 2 жыл бұрын
Remember to also use your wide angle camera, not only your main camera. if you have the wide angle camera mode, this mode is helpful when trying to check an area all at once with a bunch of things that you need to check, not only one thing, object. You maybe could even use the burst camera mode with both camera modes, main camera and wide angle camera, so count with that as well.
@aniket_6495
@aniket_6495 2 жыл бұрын
But the thing is one can develop a dangerous habit of this too. I started doing this years ago and later on I started doing it aggressively like my phone right now has insane amount of photos/screenshots that is just ridiculous. Having a hard time to stop it but now I've came across this channel recently, let's see how it works out.
@richardwilsonavena
@richardwilsonavena 2 жыл бұрын
For many of us it feels almost impossible to separate ourselves from our thoughts. I have studied cognitive defusion and on paper, yes defusing from our negative, disturbing, depressing thoughts seems like the pathway to glory. But, what if you are unable to do so with any regularity. I have some theories that perhaps people such as myself have certain cognitive challenges that keep us from defusing successfully. I, personally, have tried many times to defuse on a consistent and regular basis. There seems to be something else that is going on that I have never been able to explain or receive advice from a therapist about. It seems that perhaps our minds, from a biological aspect, may have through years and years grafted and completely fused to whatever psychological mechanisms exist to the point that we would never be able to truly defuse and reap the benefits of defusion. While I appreciate what you and many other therapists and modalities of psychology do to help, as fatalistic as it sounds, I dont believe we may ever heal unless there would one day exist something that helps us at a chemical level. Perhaps our amygdala is at the point where it cannot be tamed. What can be done? How could the person with the least amount of ability to detach from their thoughts ever do so? There are many success stories that I read, but not as many stories shared from those of us who fail and fail and fail again at defusing and are eventually tired of trying.
@dane6730
@dane6730 2 жыл бұрын
I have very severe OCD and my “intrusive thoughts” would go on for hours, non stop. I’m talking 6 7 8 hrs. Sometimes so much I couldn’t sleep at night and they would continue into the next. I have had all kinds of behavioural therapy such as she is talking about. They did nothing. It was until I was hospitalized for a second and given clomipramine and antipsychotics did they lessen. Saved my life! It waxes and wanes but only on my good days with my symptoms are mild does any form of therapy helps. My point in saying this is sometimes it not as simple as reframing how we think about out thoughts.
@Jojo-sb1xs
@Jojo-sb1xs Жыл бұрын
Thanku so much. This is brilliant. Thanku so so much. This is rly helpful 🙏🏼❤
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
Hey just wondering how you’re getting on, cheers
@23katied
@23katied Жыл бұрын
My pleasure 😊
@jimroth2493
@jimroth2493 Жыл бұрын
Whar about KIDS? Kids with ODC ? The ODC methods are quite different I suppose for kids? Thank you in advance! 🙏
@kevinetemah1120
@kevinetemah1120 Жыл бұрын
How old are you jim
@IAMKUTEY
@IAMKUTEY Жыл бұрын
I need therapy so much but it's so expensive for me and I'm trying to work hard to save money for it but lately my OCD is at its worst and I sometimes have a lot of suicidal thoughts because I can't work or even drink or eat because of my OCD, it's ruining everything, it's ruining me
@shyaaammeneen63
@shyaaammeneen63 Жыл бұрын
Love, For overthinking problem be careful what you feed your mind. Avoid comparing yourself with others, reduce watching negative social media and avoid constipation as it affects the mind. Your breathing is closely related to the brain [mind] and gives relief from stress-anxiety. For a relaxed mind observe the sensations of your natural incoming--outgoing breath at the entrance of the nostrils for 10-15 minutes or more. You can sit or lay down--eyes closed--No deep breathing. Don’t fight your thoughts. Never meditate with expectations. Make it a habit to observe your breath day and night before sleep, at work, when travelling, etc with eyes open or closed. Best wishes--Counsellor.
@subliminalsublime9771
@subliminalsublime9771 Жыл бұрын
Can i ask wt actually happens
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
Hey just wondering how you’re getting on, cheers
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
@@shyaaammeneen63 hey there did you have ocd then, I’m at the start and struggling a bit thanks
@danielwalker6436
@danielwalker6436 2 жыл бұрын
yep. Judgements be the spark. (however automatic before therapuetic advances.)
@toekneelorenzo2942
@toekneelorenzo2942 2 жыл бұрын
What if this happens fir example. Let's say I keep thinking jyst this thought that im just using someone for a ride.cause they take me mostly everywhere. And I have to tell this person that I thought this. Of course tgey get mad. But its just thinking n thinking n I tell them. Is this part of ocd anyone else think this
@toekneelorenzo2942
@toekneelorenzo2942 2 жыл бұрын
Can anyone answer?
@katyelliott6306
@katyelliott6306 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like your OCD is trying to target things that are important to you, in this case your friend. The worry that you might be using your friend or exploiting them in some way shows that they are important to you and you care about them because if you didn’t you wouldn’t worry about using them. You seem more considerate that’s most. Talking to your friend about it might help but sometimes confessing perceived wrongdoings is a compulsion. You don’t have to tell everyone every thought that pops into your head it’s not lying to them or being disingenuous. The same way not telling you just went to the bathroom wouldn’t be. Let them know that you appreciate the rides and enjoy your friendship with them. Sorry for the long answer haha hope this helps :)
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
Hey just wondering how you’re getting on with this now cheers
@user-lz9eh8hz1g
@user-lz9eh8hz1g 5 ай бұрын
ΤΗΑΝΚ ΥΟU FOR YOUR HELP. COULD YOU MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT SENSORIMOTOR OCD?
@23katied
@23katied 4 ай бұрын
Yes, it's on the list!
@zachfenton608
@zachfenton608 2 жыл бұрын
Great information
@23katied
@23katied 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks I'm glad it's helpful.
@ezgikral8749
@ezgikral8749 Жыл бұрын
Hey everyone I feel very hopeless and I’d be very glad if you give me your precious opinions. Like 1.5 year ago one night just randomly, an old thought poped in to my mind. When I was a kid I was putting myself in situation like (just with thinking) “What am I? Am I real? Am I from this world? What’s happening?” And with these kind of thoughts I was feeling lost and when I was a kid I quiet enjoy that state of mind. It was kind a funny for the little me. Back to the topic 1.5 year ago that thought poped in to my mind and I felt very anxious. I googled that thoughts and I learned that it was thing that called Depersonalisation. I read some forums that night and the comments were very scary. Like “it sticks to you and ruins your life” kind of comments. So that night my OCD began. I felt super anxious that night and I fear that “what if I feel this anxious all the time? What if these thoughts come to my mind constantly and take my happy moments?” The other morning I woke up and the fear of depersonalisation was gone but “What if I feel this anxious” feel stayed. And for 1.5 years it came to mind everyday, sometimes I didn’t care and enjoyed my life, but sometimes because of this thoughts I couldn’t focus on the things that I love to do, and felt very depressive. Now after 1.5 years when this thoughts comes to my mind I barely feel anxiousness but I feel a very frustrating discomfort and hopeless. I really don’t know what to do? Can someone experienced similar situations and healed help me? Please write your healing experiences because still peoples bad experiences could trigger me. And I wish everyone an unlimited happiness!
@caitlyndiann285
@caitlyndiann285 Жыл бұрын
Hey! If you’re still dealing with this, look up “depersonalization manual” on youtube! He is a WONDERFUL resource for people experiencing DP/DR. You can absolutely recover from depersonalization and derealization!
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
Hey just wondering how you’re getting on now, cheers
@user-fw7eh4jl4v
@user-fw7eh4jl4v 2 жыл бұрын
i have this serious problem either it’s OCD or not my mind always finds a way to turn things dark ways, it seems like OCD as it’s obsessive towards anything i react to it will just stay in my head for a day until the next day it’s not as bad anymore once i overcome it another thought comes to ruin the day again just repeats subconsciously and it’s getting gruesome, some tips i have found here have helped somewhat i’m looking irl for instant help whenever so thanks for giving advice for now
@nourberouaken8860
@nourberouaken8860 2 жыл бұрын
Hi I used to have the same thoughts as you but I think now I got used to it and i've learned how to deal with it the key is to try to not give the thought your energy because you are not your thoughts and you can't control them the only thing that you can control is your reaction toward the thought by realising that it's not real and it's notsomething that happened or will happen in reality and instead of trying to fight the thought try to observe it and focus on reality
@nourberouaken8860
@nourberouaken8860 2 жыл бұрын
And say to yourself that it's not something that you chose and you don't deserve to suffer because of something that just came for a second and that you deserve so much better than wasting your time on trying to fight something that doesn't exist don't let it steal your happiness you are strong enough to deal with it and you're the only person who can save you Good luck ♡
@user-fw7eh4jl4v
@user-fw7eh4jl4v 2 жыл бұрын
@@nourberouaken8860 your right i definitely am on track with this statement because i’ve been observing and doing some of this it’s still good advice to remember because it’s the only way possible especially not giving them a reaction i’m still working on it and all so through time it’s gotten better and stronger at doing these steps so cheers and good luck 🙏
@rodolfoubaldejr.5801
@rodolfoubaldejr.5801 2 жыл бұрын
This is what's happening to me now. My thought won't let me at peace. Even simple things and normal things seems to be so hard. I worry about crazy thought's that I'm not supposed to be. And I dont feel like me.
@user-fw7eh4jl4v
@user-fw7eh4jl4v 2 жыл бұрын
@@rodolfoubaldejr.5801 practice and train your mind through time like she says try not to forget the thoughts and let them be there sometimes exposure therapy works building tolerance to how you react, just don’t react at all don’t waste your energy on those pointless thoughts maybe through time you can get through it i’ve gotten better after
@pinkisaini2689
@pinkisaini2689 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Mam ,Mam you changed my life through your videos .I am Aryan a big fan of yours. Mam you studied on OCD for about your whole life so mam may you please tell how to permanently cure from this disease in single video .Please mam
@russellwestgoat6109
@russellwestgoat6109 2 жыл бұрын
Ima literally dealing with this all the time
@faithinhisbloodministry8600
@faithinhisbloodministry8600 Жыл бұрын
Ocd is spiritual warfare!!
@AdolGlow
@AdolGlow Жыл бұрын
I totally agree the closer I got to God the worse it has gotten
@23glo59
@23glo59 Жыл бұрын
At a mental wreck. Worlds too disturbing rn. Soon as I gather myself, BS right around the corner
@mb106429
@mb106429 9 ай бұрын
Have a read about focal epilepsy, auras, TLE
@karanjitsingh2155
@karanjitsingh2155 2 жыл бұрын
I have sexual thought about my mom what type of ERP would you suggest
@23katied
@23katied 2 жыл бұрын
Same as any ERP - work out what you are avoiding and or what triggers you and create a hierarchy based on this. E.G If you are avoiding being close to your mum because of fears of triggering the thoughts an ERP could be to go and sit close beside her and maybe give her a hug etc - basically the opposite of what you want to do in that situation. Or you could do other ERP like record the thoughts and play them back to yourself etc. There are other ideas in some of the "Pure O" videos.
@karanjitsingh2155
@karanjitsingh2155 2 жыл бұрын
@@23katied THX FOR ANSWERING
@MuhammadIrfan-mx1im
@MuhammadIrfan-mx1im 2 жыл бұрын
@@23katied will you make a video about HOCD/SO-OCD in the future?
@bertarissen6568
@bertarissen6568 2 жыл бұрын
Katie is probably right.🤔
@starh4067
@starh4067 2 жыл бұрын
❤️ ❤️
@chrisl.5803
@chrisl.5803 Жыл бұрын
Hello 👋
@abwrld0596
@abwrld0596 Жыл бұрын
Hi Katie I wonder, do you believe someone can 100% overcome ocd?
@RandomPerson-rf4jf
@RandomPerson-rf4jf Жыл бұрын
Well, I had OCD symptoms and had really weird thoughts continuously. I tried to implement the things Miss Katie teachings and put my mind away from the thoughts and they genuinely went away. I feel completely normal now and anxiety-free. Please just keep pushing through and try to implement these changes, it really does get better, and in my case, the symptoms are gone. I know in the beginning it was really hard (it was hard for me to :))... but u got this!
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
Hey just wondering how you’re getting on, cheers
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
@@RandomPerson-rf4jf hey just wondering how you’re getting on now, sounds reassuring, any tips are welcome ! Many thanks
@abwrld0596
@abwrld0596 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesjohnstone1224 the only real solution is to sit with the feeling and try your hardest not to do compulsions no matter what they are or how real it feels. Better said than done tho but I believe in you!
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
@@abwrld0596 thanks so much for your reply, I’ll take on board what you said, how would you answer your original question now? Do you think it’s possible to return to normal, how was it for you… thanks for your time
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