.38 ACP Webley-Fosbery Automatic Revolver

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The rarest variation of the Webley-Fosbery automatic revolver is the .38 ACP model. Only 341 of these were made by Webley, in an attempt to compete with the new semiautomatic pistols appearing on the market - most notably the Colt Model 1900 and Model 1902. The Colt was chambered for .38 ACP, a remarkable cartridge for its time - high velocity and semi-rimmed. Webley figured that an 8-shot Fosbery type revolver would offer the same capacity and ballistics as the new Colt, but in a revolver format familiar the the British market. The design could load cartridges individually, but also offered use of an 8-shot moon clip. Unfortunately for Webley, British legislation in 1903 hampered civilian handgun ownership and the military was not interested at all because the bore was too small. Of the 341 originally made, some were finally converted to .455 caliber models after years of sitting unsold in Webley's warehouse.
This model makes a notable appearance in Dashiell Hammett's novel "The Maltese Falcon", which quite specifically identifies it as an 8-shot, .38 caliber Webley-Fosbery. In the movie version, Humphrey Bogart mistakenly says it is an 8-shot .45, however...
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@alanhynd7886
@alanhynd7886 3 жыл бұрын
Ah-ah, I know what you're thinking, "Has he fired six shots or only five?" Well seeing this is a .38 ACP Webley-Fosbery...
@UTubeHandlesSuck
@UTubeHandlesSuck 3 жыл бұрын
Ooh, winner!
@nolanolivier6791
@nolanolivier6791 3 жыл бұрын
You mean: '8 rounds, or only 7..'
@gemista
@gemista 3 жыл бұрын
The real question is: do you feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?
@budlewis721
@budlewis721 3 жыл бұрын
"Ah gots ta know..." in the standard '70s movie stereotype ghetto voice.
@billygoats804
@billygoats804 3 жыл бұрын
@@nolanolivier6791 The joke was that it didn't matter how many he fired...
@JDTN1985
@JDTN1985 3 жыл бұрын
This is another one of those guns that I wish someone could reproduce, but realise that the cost of doing so would cause it to fail again. Oh well, one can dream.
@appalachiangunman9589
@appalachiangunman9589 3 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to see a company start that specializes in the reproduction of high-end versions of these oddball guns.
@anthonywilliams379
@anthonywilliams379 3 жыл бұрын
I think webley need to consider putting their revolvers back into production in the states, even if with some simplified machining to make them cost effective against a S&W
@LordRaa
@LordRaa 3 жыл бұрын
Well, with advances in metal sintering, it might be not break the bank if someone wanted to reproduce oddball firearms. Would require some extensive testing, though.
@axelpatrickb.pingol3228
@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 3 жыл бұрын
@@appalachiangunman9589 You mean the likes of Lugerman than sells their guns at 10K a piece? Good luck...
@TheWolfsnack
@TheWolfsnack 3 жыл бұрын
....unless of course Norinco took it on....
@amorphoussolid8512
@amorphoussolid8512 3 жыл бұрын
Webley-Fosbery just soumds so incredibly English.
@alahos
@alahos 3 жыл бұрын
Give it an accent and it could sound like Alabama.
@anvilmemetrooper
@anvilmemetrooper 3 жыл бұрын
100% Britishness
@edwalmsley1401
@edwalmsley1401 3 жыл бұрын
@@alahos way-blay fo-brery 😂🤣
@markh.6687
@markh.6687 3 жыл бұрын
I say, Good Sir, have you seen my wife about? No? Oh, jolly good!! :) Time for whores!
@markh.6687
@markh.6687 3 жыл бұрын
@@slaughterround643 Rule Brittania and all that! Did I ever tell you about the time I was hunting rhinos in Africa?
@slosolo2
@slosolo2 3 жыл бұрын
Ian, I was thinking how cool it would be to travel around and see all these unique guns. It hit me that you do an awful lot of work that we don't see on the video and just wanted to say it doesn't go unrecognized. Thanks for all the background research and preparation you do to make the high quality presentations we may take for granted.
@appalachiangunman9589
@appalachiangunman9589 3 жыл бұрын
That’s true, I really appreciate the time, effort, and money he puts into bringing us all of this info.
@maximusprime98
@maximusprime98 3 жыл бұрын
I choose to believe that Ian knows everything he says, off hand and does the video in a single take immediately after arriving on location.
@maxkronader5225
@maxkronader5225 3 жыл бұрын
@@maximusprime98 Well, he is Gun Jesus after all.😀
@alexrennison8070
@alexrennison8070 3 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@comiketiger
@comiketiger 3 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@csabaweisz8791
@csabaweisz8791 3 жыл бұрын
Sean Connery just passed away, he wielded a Fosbery revolver (the 6-shot one) in Zardoz. What a fever dream that film is
@matthewnightingale4585
@matthewnightingale4585 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed!
@csabaweisz8791
@csabaweisz8791 3 жыл бұрын
@spizzardo it was a Fosbery, cuz he cocked it with pulling the whole upper assembly (which you can only do with a Fosbery, and not a normal Webley)
@matthewnightingale4585
@matthewnightingale4585 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely a Fosbery; Google image will show you as well as providing some lovely images of Charlotte Rampling........
@MeatGuyJ
@MeatGuyJ 3 жыл бұрын
The gun is good. This one, not so much.
@maxkronader5225
@maxkronader5225 3 жыл бұрын
@spizzardo It was the Webley Fosbery. They showed Connery racking the action by grabbing the barrel and cycling it back. Now, to be fair, they may well have substituted a different pistol in some scenes (continuity editing was/is often rather spotty when it comes to firearms), but they made a distinct point of showing it as a Webley Fosbery.
@LUR1FAX
@LUR1FAX 3 жыл бұрын
The issue with self-cocking revolvers chambered in automatic pistol cartridges, is that you might as well just get an autoloader at that point.
@rexalex6416
@rexalex6416 3 жыл бұрын
Except for the fact that if you want to save and reuse the shells they are a better option. Plus they are just neat
@anthonywilliams379
@anthonywilliams379 3 жыл бұрын
Although with the right marketing the idea of the moon clips could have been a revolutionary thing for their revolvers, just offer the cylinders with clips as a conversion kit or adapt them for a few and you could have had every officer in ww1 using stamped sheet metal moon clips to reload their revolvers instead of by hand or bulky speed loaders
@axelpatrickb.pingol3228
@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, they are made when such selfloaders are very new things in the market...
@moritamikamikara3879
@moritamikamikara3879 3 жыл бұрын
t h e y ' r e c o o l
@pappajudas9267
@pappajudas9267 3 жыл бұрын
If webly had gotten these to Market five years earlier they would have been all over the place. They were perfect for a time that had just barely ended when automatic pistols were unreliable and underpowered. I wonder if automatic revolvers would still be an option if they had had a chance to become popular before good automatic pistols came to market.
@johndonaldson3619
@johndonaldson3619 3 жыл бұрын
Intro: "The Maltese Falcon' (1941) with Humphrey Bogart. The movie error is the gun is an '8 shot .38' (or a 6 shot .45)
@jeffreyknickman5559
@jeffreyknickman5559 3 жыл бұрын
True. But the book gets it right. There, Spade calls it a .38
@anthonyhayes1267
@anthonyhayes1267 3 жыл бұрын
@Graf von Losinj btw, did we get an answer from the producers? Is Ian going to make a cameo?
@comiketiger
@comiketiger 3 жыл бұрын
No error on it being made in 455 caliber.They added the .38 acp later as Ian has explained. The movie called the pistol an 8 shot 45 and the .45 is a 6 shot.
@ReavinBlue
@ReavinBlue 3 жыл бұрын
This is the revolver of my dreams. 8-shot top break. And semiautomatic. Whenever i see these amazing jewels of the past i am reminded of how much modern day companies are simply biting dust when it comes to revolver technology
@Soldier0021
@Soldier0021 3 жыл бұрын
That cylinder looks like a Pancor Jackhammer magazine
@tammysilverwolf1085
@tammysilverwolf1085 3 жыл бұрын
I was going to comment the same thing. Interesting how design ques get traded through the years. Not being a machinist, I have to imagine 'it works good enough' for both of them. Also maybe patent issues with the rotating cylinder and Colt.
@pops55650
@pops55650 3 жыл бұрын
I believe they did look at the Webley when they designed the Pancor Jackhamner, pretty sure I read that somewhere or saw it here
@JH-lo9ut
@JH-lo9ut 3 жыл бұрын
There is also a FW video on a nagant revolver with the same type of pattern on the chamber. The zig-zag pattern is what forces the cylinder rotate.
@auxchar
@auxchar 3 жыл бұрын
@@tammysilverwolf1085 I remember seeing some 3D printed designs borrow that, too, like the Washbear revolver and the Liberator12k.
@zeiphie
@zeiphie 3 жыл бұрын
Webley to somebodies in 1902: "This should please somebody" Ian: "This turned out to please...nobody" Nobody in 2020: "Yes Ian, it indeed does please me...118 years too late!"
@Bloodreign137
@Bloodreign137 3 жыл бұрын
@@kenbrown2808 yeah, but we’re all nobody’s
@mikrikbell
@mikrikbell 3 жыл бұрын
My Webley Tempest .22 Air Pistol was the bane of all Rats that dared cross my path while I worked nightshift down by the Riverside...
@jabezhane
@jabezhane 3 жыл бұрын
I still have mine in .22. My mum bought me it back in 1983! Best thing I had as a kid. Works perfectly still.
@poisonmans
@poisonmans 3 жыл бұрын
@@jabezhane what a nice mum. Normally that's the last thing a mother would do.
@jabezhane
@jabezhane 3 жыл бұрын
@@poisonmans well strangely it was the one thing I ever pestered my parents for. So the moral of the story is if you are gonna use pester power, then choose wisely and very rarely.
@morelenmir
@morelenmir 3 жыл бұрын
I remember pawing at the picture of a Webley Tempest in the 'Great Universal' catalogue!!! At least you don't need an FAC to own one nowadays.
@jabezhane
@jabezhane 3 жыл бұрын
@@morelenmir the fun thing about the Wembley pistols was it was all technique with the cocking. I could hand that as a 12 year old and laugh as an adult struggled to get the barrel pulled half way.
@mojomanrosie
@mojomanrosie 3 жыл бұрын
When the gun cycled i was blown away!! I never knew they cycled like that!
@jackshoemaker9023
@jackshoemaker9023 3 жыл бұрын
There's a modern shotgun that works similarly. I can't remember what it's called, but Ian did a video on it a while back.
@whyjay9959
@whyjay9959 3 жыл бұрын
@@jackshoemaker9023 The Pancor Jackhammer?
@jackshoemaker9023
@jackshoemaker9023 3 жыл бұрын
@@whyjay9959 Yep, that's the one.
@markh.6687
@markh.6687 3 жыл бұрын
Me too! Never saw this kind of gun before! I used to make jokes about a gun like this.
@SW0000A
@SW0000A 3 жыл бұрын
You would even more blown away by the mateba.
@Max-mh1yj
@Max-mh1yj 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, my 7:08 am forgotten weapons video.
@Max-mh1yj
@Max-mh1yj 3 жыл бұрын
@Shawn Alvarado nice lol
@cnocspeireag
@cnocspeireag 3 жыл бұрын
The 1903 pistols act hardly made a difference to the availability of handguns, as one simply had to buy a gun licence from the Post Office first. They were available immediately over the counter. They were expensive at ten shillings, and the act was more a money raising measure than anything else. Interestingly, the cost remained unchanged for many years. I had to go to a Post Office and buy one for my first shotgun in the 1960s, when the cost was still ten shillings, so far as I remember.
@seanseanston
@seanseanston 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting how the price not going up after many decades of inflation parallels the NFA tax stamp...
@tomjustis7237
@tomjustis7237 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information. As a 'yank', when Ian mentioned "the act" I had the impression it was some kind of highly restrictive law. Well, it WAS restrictive because I'm sure at that time ten shillings would be a lot to the average worker, but it wasn't as bad as I imagined. Of course, it WAS the 'camel's nose in the tent', so in the long run...
@45auto
@45auto 3 жыл бұрын
We have a similar situation now for anything that falls under the National Firearms Act, including silencers (what I gather you call sound moderaters). It is just an attempt to deny the citizens access to weapons and accessories while taxing you for the privilege.
@jeffbenton6183
@jeffbenton6183 2 жыл бұрын
@cnocspeirag (or whoever knows). I heard that it's rather hard to get a personal firearm in Britain as a civilian. If not the 1903 Act, than when did that start?
@chrisjohnson4165
@chrisjohnson4165 Жыл бұрын
@@zoiders Not quite true - The Home Secretary at the time said that every cottager and house owner should own a pistol.
@petermuller9940
@petermuller9940 3 жыл бұрын
The system is used today in any retractable ballpoint pen 🖊....
@markh.6687
@markh.6687 3 жыл бұрын
Good Lord! I'm carrying an automatic revolver pen! Eat your heart out, James Bond!
@DFloyd84
@DFloyd84 3 жыл бұрын
@@markh.6687 Bond's pen is also a grenade. Three clicks to arm, three to disarm.
@markh.6687
@markh.6687 3 жыл бұрын
@@DFloyd84 :DUCK!!: (throws pen into field......KABLAM!!) Whoops!
@johnmorgan1629
@johnmorgan1629 3 жыл бұрын
"John Browning and the Colt Co. in the United States manufacturing new .38 calibre automatic pistols were making quite a splash." Didn't realise people were having to lose their guns in 'boating accidents' that long ago!
@saiga12forme88
@saiga12forme88 3 жыл бұрын
There's a credential story of a New York police department dumping a bunch of surplus submachineguns they had been issued in the ocean. Think it was either Swedish K's, Suomi's or Sterlings. Think Suomi's.
@NRH111
@NRH111 3 жыл бұрын
@@saiga12forme88 ians got a video on it it was MP34s in 45
@JustIn-op6oy
@JustIn-op6oy 3 жыл бұрын
@@saiga12forme88 wasn't there a similar dump of BARs off California?
@PrototypeSpaceMonkey
@PrototypeSpaceMonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Mateba: "That barrel is TOO DAMN HIGH!"
@JDTN1985
@JDTN1985 3 жыл бұрын
"And it needs it's sexy factor increased by about 1000%."
@UTubeHandlesSuck
@UTubeHandlesSuck 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I like those screwy Matebas. But then, I just plain like screwy in general.
@JDTN1985
@JDTN1985 3 жыл бұрын
Other than The Maltese Falcon and Zardoz, another movie that featured this gun was Van Helsing. To be fair I think they actually used non firing replicas in that film, and dressed them up to make them look even more steampunk then they naturally do. Either way, that's where I first came across this gun and have been in love with it ever since.
@JDTN1985
@JDTN1985 3 жыл бұрын
@@slaughterround643 fixed. Good looking out. 👍
@markh.6687
@markh.6687 3 жыл бұрын
Just glue some gears on it, and call it Steampunk. That's the trendy fashion nowadays! -- From the YT video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iqxzqKhm167GgHU.html
@marakalos3838
@marakalos3838 3 жыл бұрын
I remember finding the bloopers and behind the scenes footage from that movie. They were non-firing replicas and they did break every now and again. Cheap plastic sadly but dressed very well for the aesthetic of the film. Good eye by the way.
@JDTN1985
@JDTN1985 3 жыл бұрын
@@markh.6687 OMG that's hilarious. Thanks for that. I needed a good laugh.👍
@zs5636
@zs5636 3 жыл бұрын
I’m really down for this whole every morning post thing. These pistol videos are nice to watch while having a morning coffee
@enricopaolocoronado2511
@enricopaolocoronado2511 3 жыл бұрын
I love the aesthetics of the Webleys. Anyone else sharing that sentiment?
@darkblood626
@darkblood626 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I prefere the peacemaker.
@rotwang2000
@rotwang2000 3 жыл бұрын
They look like a mix of pure functional engineering combined with elegant lines.
@jonathantatler
@jonathantatler 3 жыл бұрын
I love the look but can't help remembering my grandparents using the phrase... The Fossbury Flop
@MostlyPennyCat
@MostlyPennyCat 3 жыл бұрын
They are handsome. And they're _the_ military revolver, everybody had them. They were police service revolvers the world over up until the 70s. Which would be fairly alarming to have pointed at you.
@BattleManiac7
@BattleManiac7 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. While I think there are cooler looking revolvers, I always find the Webleys the most aesthetically pleasing for me. I prefer the normal non-automatics though, love the simpler look of them.
@jedbryant84
@jedbryant84 3 жыл бұрын
My uncle was a rare gun dealer and I actually remember being able to fire both of these. I remember having to be very careful with it, but will never forget the action or the grooves on cylinder. Very cool video.
@justinhaze871
@justinhaze871 3 жыл бұрын
I really like everything about these, wish they were more widely available.
@elmanoazul
@elmanoazul 3 жыл бұрын
Always loved the Webley profile. Nice work.👍🏼
@NSixtyFour
@NSixtyFour 3 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks. I was looking for this gun on your channel the other day!
@nonamesplease6288
@nonamesplease6288 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Love the gun and the bit at the beginning from the Maltese Falcon - still one of my favorite noire movies.
@its_dippy6779
@its_dippy6779 3 жыл бұрын
"This was just a complete....bLeaUh of a pistol." Couldn't have said it better myself.
@chadthompson5970
@chadthompson5970 3 жыл бұрын
I have have been waiting for this video for many years
@leonqb9890
@leonqb9890 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You Ian!
@billjamison2877
@billjamison2877 3 жыл бұрын
A good friend of mine has one of these in .45. I had a chance to shoot it a few times and found it comfortable to shoot and very accurate.
@loupiscanis9449
@loupiscanis9449 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you , Ian
@Pommezul
@Pommezul 3 жыл бұрын
I am so early this time that even the subtitles aren't available yet
@davidthornthwaite2149
@davidthornthwaite2149 3 жыл бұрын
I remember that line from The Maltese Falcon and assumed it was a mistake! Shows what I knew. Great video, as ever, thank you.
@Santos.Sarmento
@Santos.Sarmento 3 жыл бұрын
Great video on a super rare revolver. Thank you.
@simthespark324
@simthespark324 3 жыл бұрын
Yesssss another Webley video. Ian I know the Webley MKVI is not a forgotten weapon but it’d be nice to see a series on the Webley pistols and how they got to the where they did? Regards from Great Britain 🇬🇧
@gatlinguts
@gatlinguts 3 жыл бұрын
I am calling for a revolver revival! I love a good wheel gun. It is like driving a really old Porsche, it might not be the latest and greatest but damn if it isn’t extremely satisfying when you “thread the needle”.
@drottle
@drottle 3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this one for years
@CzechoslovakGunStories
@CzechoslovakGunStories 3 жыл бұрын
one of the coolest revolvers ever produced :)
@luisantolafrancis519
@luisantolafrancis519 3 жыл бұрын
the 455 version apeared also in a 1974 movie called ZARDOZ starring the recently pass away Sean Connery ... " the gun is good"
@pappajudas9267
@pappajudas9267 3 жыл бұрын
"The gun is good"
@weswolever7477
@weswolever7477 3 жыл бұрын
The penis is evil
@fuzzlemacfuzz
@fuzzlemacfuzz 3 жыл бұрын
That cylinder is just beautiful
@vice6996
@vice6996 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!!!! I was hoping for a Maltese Falcon reference when I saw the thumbnail. So perfect.
@jamietus1012
@jamietus1012 3 жыл бұрын
Oooh that's nice, love the 38 webleys
@trickeydick5024
@trickeydick5024 3 жыл бұрын
The movie Zardoz 1974 with Sean Conery .. first time I saw one of these pretty unique firearms.
@SkipTerrio
@SkipTerrio 3 жыл бұрын
That Bogart quote from Maltese Falcon was the first thing that instantly came to mind when I saw the video title. When the video opened with that exact quote, I was grinning from ear to ear. I love that movie!
@yourlawyer3305
@yourlawyer3305 3 жыл бұрын
I sure hope to see this in the range!
@unluckymonkey4382
@unluckymonkey4382 3 жыл бұрын
The webly is one of old revolvers on my wishlist. Along with the negont. I got a S&W victory chambered 38s&w that was made in the US and lenlease to the Canadian/British in 1915. It was sitting at mg local gun shop for a bit and decided the next check I'll buy it if it's still there. A few months later they had the 45acp model. Wish I got that one too
@The_Hi_Life
@The_Hi_Life 3 жыл бұрын
This is a holy grail gun! So freakin cool!
@mattfleming86
@mattfleming86 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing as it has a bulged barrel, someone with the right licenses needs to sleeve it and find a way to integrate an auto sear. Just because. .38 Super Full Auto Revolver. Never seen one of those.
@spookydonkey2195
@spookydonkey2195 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@charlesphillips4575
@charlesphillips4575 3 жыл бұрын
The full moon clip was certainly a good idea. I was intrigued to see that Smith & Wesson have started using it in 357 revolvers (most 357 magnum rounds have a grove as well as a rim)
@whywouldyoudothat782
@whywouldyoudothat782 3 жыл бұрын
Nice sound clip in the beginning.
@zombieslayer7759
@zombieslayer7759 2 жыл бұрын
The Webley Fosbery is one of the coolest firearms ever made in my opinion. I will undoubtedly be buying one someday.
@davidgcalderone
@davidgcalderone 3 жыл бұрын
A great movie and a great review of the revolver
@chrissheffield5468
@chrissheffield5468 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you added "The Maltese Falcon" clip!
@gunner678
@gunner678 3 жыл бұрын
An interesting piece.
@spiired6469
@spiired6469 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed it is.
@texas-raider
@texas-raider 3 жыл бұрын
When I saw the video title, I just *knew* you'd reference The Maltese Falcon. Imagine my giddiness to actually hear Bogie's voice at the beginning of the video..... thanks!
@demurevilleneuvewinslet8235
@demurevilleneuvewinslet8235 Жыл бұрын
Gorgeous gun! I wish someone out there would get the idea of making replicas for ALL of the Webley's. You should be able to walk into any gun store and still find these. They are beautiful.
@jonnyblade3234
@jonnyblade3234 3 жыл бұрын
I love the look of the cylinder
@AryDontSurf
@AryDontSurf 3 жыл бұрын
Incredibly badass.
@mcklub
@mcklub 3 жыл бұрын
Ian just straight up memeing as the intro. Ian you're awesome.
@oldesertguy9616
@oldesertguy9616 3 жыл бұрын
I love the 455 Webley Fosbery, but something about this gun makes me want one even more.
@pavelsima5853
@pavelsima5853 3 жыл бұрын
Never heard of it... Big thanks
@dinesweibel9666
@dinesweibel9666 3 жыл бұрын
I really love the Webley!
@dangray4086
@dangray4086 3 жыл бұрын
"a dismal flop." A FOSBERRY FLOP, lol.
@andycrawley1961
@andycrawley1961 3 жыл бұрын
was it the first Fosbery Flop then? (different spelling, I know, works better phonetically)
@MultiVogon
@MultiVogon 3 жыл бұрын
Damn you beat me to it by 19 Seconds :-D Yes so Ian is saying the Fosbery.... was a flop .
@markh.6687
@markh.6687 3 жыл бұрын
sounds like the name of a drink: "Combine an odd gun with seltzer and gin. Stir with barrel. Serve with cold sales."
@backblaise1255
@backblaise1255 3 жыл бұрын
You're for the high jump now!
@miketeeveedub5779
@miketeeveedub5779 3 жыл бұрын
The Fosbury Flop revolutionized the High Jump, so in fact, it was a successful flop. Too bad this Fosbery did indeed "flop" in the sales market.
@AndrewAMartin
@AndrewAMartin 3 жыл бұрын
As a fellow Andy, I see you've set the bar pretty high there... ;-)
@sorryociffer
@sorryociffer 3 жыл бұрын
The .455 pistol was also used in a season 2 episode of “Murder she Wrote”, a 1980’s era murder mystery series, fairly accurately too...
@oriontaylor
@oriontaylor 3 жыл бұрын
Mrs. Fletcher was particularly good at spotting it.
@Zindureth
@Zindureth 8 ай бұрын
I am for sure saving this to 3D model later! I'm surprised I don't see this in space shooter games, it has a really sci-fi look to it!
@cratecruncher6687
@cratecruncher6687 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. I don't know a thing about guns but came across this weird gun I'd never heard of in a famous book I am reading. Poor Archer. One pill right through the pump. The blast burnt his coat.
@RealityOrganized
@RealityOrganized Жыл бұрын
0:41. The Fosbery turned out to be a Flop? Well done, Ian.
@SoyBeanKifferroxTheCat
@SoyBeanKifferroxTheCat 3 жыл бұрын
This is something I would want. And I love it
@akmarksman
@akmarksman 3 жыл бұрын
A ruffian points a Webley-Fosbery at Prince George, Duke of Kent. "I say, is this a robbery my good sir?" inquires the Prince.. "No, this is a Fosbery.."
@ArcturusOTE
@ArcturusOTE 3 жыл бұрын
Good show, my dear
@carlosdinamarcacabrera1435
@carlosdinamarcacabrera1435 2 жыл бұрын
Ojalá pudiera tener un traductor así aprender de estás armas que nos sorprende hoy por su complejidad gracias
@SW0000A
@SW0000A 3 жыл бұрын
The first automatic revolver. Then mateba made the idea even cooler. I like this is in .38 acp. At least I might be able to find ammo. Super cool revolver.
@cheyennereynoso4116
@cheyennereynoso4116 3 жыл бұрын
I, personally, think that’s just amazing.
@MrJdog1987
@MrJdog1987 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a review on this the 38Auto
@sonoranmaintenance5402
@sonoranmaintenance5402 3 жыл бұрын
I've wanted a fosberry since I first read about them. Supposedly they were worth about $500 then. It was 20 yrs before I actually saw one. Now look at what they are going for.
@nightwolf4838
@nightwolf4838 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the Mateba Model 6 Unica video
@Friedbrain11
@Friedbrain11 3 жыл бұрын
That is a really good pistol. Wish someone could reproduce using modern 38 caliber ammo. Really like the way it works and i like break open pistols above all the others.
@sergeireischel1610
@sergeireischel1610 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: a .45 model Webley-Fosbery is used as a weapon in both Patologic 1 and 2 games Fits perfectly into setting
@TheONLYFeli0
@TheONLYFeli0 10 ай бұрын
I thought this gun didn’t even exist and was unique to Pathologic. I thought the cylinder looking so weird was just a quirk of the games’ art style. They must’ve spent a looong time looking for guns online to put into their game to find such a perfect one for it. Love the games with all my heart.
@CrimeVid
@CrimeVid 3 жыл бұрын
I first noticed the mention of an “automatic revolver” in the work of your mystery writer Arthur B Reeve, his detective Craig Kennedy mentions them in several stories. I thought this was a typo !
@maxlutz3674
@maxlutz3674 3 жыл бұрын
You are not alone. On a gun range one of the shooter made a joke about "automatic revolvers". He did not believe when I mentioned that they actually exist. I took a second to confirm that and he still was not really convinced. The .38 acp was new to me too.
@ZGryphon
@ZGryphon 3 жыл бұрын
It often is--or, well, if not strictly a typo, definitely an error. Detective fiction, especially in translation, falls victim to Fantasy Gun Syndrome a lot. (In particular, for some reason, the people who translate French police procedurals, e.g., Simenon, seem to think that "revolver" is a synonym for "handgun", as when a character is specifically described as carrying a "Browning 1903 revolver".)
@oftenwrong.
@oftenwrong. 3 жыл бұрын
Love the intro! A great movie
@johnrohde5510
@johnrohde5510 3 жыл бұрын
Fwiw my guess would be Hammett has Miles Archer shot with a .38 Webley-Fosbery as a clue to the shooter: it's Thursby's gun, which is part of the exotic provenance and a link to the - in American eyes, rather rummy behaviour of the British in the Far East - but it's also a weapon easily fired by a woman. At the time, the idea of a woman's (ie small calibre) pistol was a trope of clues in detective fiction. Miss O'Shaughnessy is able effectively to use the revolver she takes from Thursby, because it is an automatic. Bogart rather spoils the effect by making it a mucho macho .45.
@markh.6687
@markh.6687 3 жыл бұрын
"I could tell by the bulge in her blouse she was packing some heat. She also had a .32 in her purse. She leaned forward over my desk, and all I could see was her.....eyes. Any closer she would have kissed me...."
@mccahill34
@mccahill34 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that the gun is so unusual and distinctive is an important clue in the Maltese Falcon....
@bigDbigDbigD
@bigDbigDbigD 3 жыл бұрын
gotta say, I love that action.
@AFRICA_NEWS
@AFRICA_NEWS 3 жыл бұрын
Shame it wasn’t so popular. It’s a really interesting gun.
@ericjohnson6784
@ericjohnson6784 3 жыл бұрын
I love Webley's . This one is extra cool.
@brucemccreary38
@brucemccreary38 3 жыл бұрын
I have never in my 64 years seen this calibre Webley Fosbury revolver. It would be nice to see Ian shoot this one. .38 ACP is possible to find today; make certain it is .38 ACP and NOT super.
@pappajudas9267
@pappajudas9267 3 жыл бұрын
It would be awesome to see him shoot one. Even more of a shame that there's a bulge in the barrel on this one. If anyone's going to find another example to shoot it's Ian but who knows how long that's going to take.
@martingardener90
@martingardener90 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely not super with that bulge in the barrel !!!
@QwertyBoredom122
@QwertyBoredom122 3 жыл бұрын
@@pappajudas9267 As someone who doesn't know everything about firearms I take it (as an educated guess) that a bulge means its unsafe to fire?
@Vode_ika
@Vode_ika 3 жыл бұрын
@@pappajudas9267 He did get to shoot the 45 version. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aquhnsaH0eC6g6s.html
@AndrewAMartin
@AndrewAMartin 3 жыл бұрын
@@QwertyBoredom122 Correct, that bulge means that the barrel has been weakened (most likely by using an overpowered cartridge) -- attempting to fire it could cause it to burst, causing serious injury or even death.
@jango9534
@jango9534 3 жыл бұрын
This thing looks neato! I’d buy one if they still made them
@adamwest8711
@adamwest8711 3 жыл бұрын
Points for ‘neato’.
@anthonywilliams379
@anthonywilliams379 3 жыл бұрын
The machining would make them relatively expensive
@clickbait5714
@clickbait5714 3 жыл бұрын
Jango said neato and I thought cringeo.
@JohnLeePettimoreIII
@JohnLeePettimoreIII 3 жыл бұрын
That cylinder reminds me of the Pancor Jackhammer shotgun.
@DualDesertEagle
@DualDesertEagle 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see one of these converted to full-auto just for the heck of it.
@paulbervid1610
@paulbervid1610 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool gun. Heard it was big in the air corps.
@Entiox
@Entiox 3 жыл бұрын
If I ever win the lottery I am so going to expand my collection of Webley revolvers.
@Asko83
@Asko83 3 жыл бұрын
IIRC some of the James Bond novels also have Bond have what is supposed to be Webley-Fosbery .455 (or .45) revolver as a back up in case he needs something more powerful than his usual carry gun.
@raymondheywood6703
@raymondheywood6703 3 жыл бұрын
I was born in England in 1938 and started pistol shooting in 1951 with a webbey air pistol. I knew peple who were in WW1. I have been told by personds of that geneation that a reason it was liked at Bisley and not for combat was that it needed a straigh and a locked elbow to garantee its alining the next round with the cylinder. They were there , I was not. Ray Heywood life member of:- NRA NRA of America London& Middlesex RC, Bisley
@HQ_Default
@HQ_Default 4 ай бұрын
I'm currently developing a game, and I had planned to make the starting pistol just a stock-standard double action revolver in 45 ACP that follows the video game logic of "it's a semi-auto revolver because magic". But after doing a bit of research and finding out that _these_ exist, I think I'm going to model this weapon instead.
@ratataq5646
@ratataq5646 3 жыл бұрын
I have always wandered where Pathologic game designers found such beautiful model of revolver (Just look at amazing cylinder's pattern!) for their creation. And now i finnaly got an answer.
@TheONLYFeli0
@TheONLYFeli0 10 ай бұрын
Love Pathologic with all my heart. Beautiful pieces of art, both the games are.
@Niinsa62
@Niinsa62 3 жыл бұрын
Remembering Webley-Fosbery, on Remembrance Day.
@jakedee4117
@jakedee4117 3 жыл бұрын
Wow ! An intro from "The Maltese Falcon". Ian should do a "Forgotten Weapons goes to the Movies". Maybe tie in with The Internet Movie Firearms Database. Also please give us an update of the price if this one sells at auction,. Morphy's site says they sold one in 2014 for $31,625.
@anthonywilliams379
@anthonywilliams379 3 жыл бұрын
Kinda feel like they'd have done better to also offer the 8 shot capacity in a conventional revolver
@markh.6687
@markh.6687 3 жыл бұрын
They did make conventional revolvers in WWII, if memory serves me right this morning without looking it up.
@SonicsniperV7
@SonicsniperV7 3 жыл бұрын
@@markh.6687 They made a .38 traditional Webley for target shooting and training troops for the big boy .455 in WWI and WWII
@markh.6687
@markh.6687 3 жыл бұрын
@@SonicsniperV7 Thanks, PB.
@guidogt9878
@guidogt9878 3 жыл бұрын
Nice. I like the movie reference. Thanks.
@ZenSpider40
@ZenSpider40 3 жыл бұрын
I remember that scene in the Maltese falcon.
@v4ks3he1m3r
@v4ks3he1m3r 3 жыл бұрын
Ian what are does guns in the bagground to your left? The rifle, smg and Lmg they look pretty cool
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