386SX-40 Single Board Computer with ALI M6117C Embedded CPU - Testing & Gaming

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CPU Galaxy

2 жыл бұрын

In this video we will review an interesting SBC or Single Board Computer. It contains an Intel compatibel 386SX CPU clocked at 40 MHz which is included in a very integrated device, the ALI M6117C.
Reviews, Setup - Built, Testing and Gaming is part of this video.
Checkout here how good this cpu will perform in DOOM, Wolfenstein 3D, Pinballdreams and other games.
Used Hardware:
Rocky-318-M4 SBC
Cirrus Logic VGA Card GD5428
Creative AWE-64 Sound Card
ISA Backplate
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@HighwayHunkie
@HighwayHunkie 2 жыл бұрын
You were being missed man.... Glad you are back and then with interesting content again, as usual. I love SBCs too. They are so versatile. Just recently played with them too here. From 286 til Pentium III - but these 386 with their modern features are quite interesting.
@necro_ware
@necro_ware 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back Peter! Really glad about your return, we live in a strange time and I already started to worry. Coincidentally I saw this board on Ebay shortly and my first question was - where is the CPU? :D So i started to investigate and was really surprised to find it in the chipset. I didn't buy it eventually, but was really curious about it. So, just as always, thank you very much!
@Kedvespatikus
@Kedvespatikus 2 жыл бұрын
"A riser can cannot get damaged..." Just wait till a lighning finds it. Or a hammer... :) I remember when I found my first and so far only one ALi CPU (M1386 A1B). A big round O-face. I had never heard about ALi processors. Of course I knew them as chipset designer/manufacturer. My little beauty was sitting sadly in the recycling container of a nearby hipermarket. Now it is paired with 4MB RAM, a Realtek VGA, a Multi IO (some GoldStar), an SB 2.0 and a Gravis Ultrasound ACE and it is on display in my living room..
@lactobacillusprime
@lactobacillusprime 2 жыл бұрын
The Austrian English accent is great. More iconic than my Dutch English accent ;) Great to see another video - very interesting SBC system this one.
@nattila7713
@nattila7713 2 жыл бұрын
it is pleasant to hear this accent for a hungarian too! (maybe coz I grew up with Swarzenegger movies? :) )
@kaliban4758
@kaliban4758 Ай бұрын
For me whenever I hear a dutch English accent I can not help but think hey that is an Amish person
@enilenis
@enilenis 2 жыл бұрын
Take all the breaks you want. We can wait. Excellent channel.
@CPUGalaxy
@CPUGalaxy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@pigpenpete
@pigpenpete 2 жыл бұрын
It's been a while! Good to see this channel booting up again :)
@backmaskingklocucha1262
@backmaskingklocucha1262 2 жыл бұрын
I just love how in german speed is called "Geschwindigkeit"
@AndyMarsh
@AndyMarsh 2 жыл бұрын
I used to read the engineering industry magazines back in the day and would lust over the adverts for these things.
@cloerenjackson3699
@cloerenjackson3699 2 жыл бұрын
It's a forgotten but important part of PC history. It really is about the most ubiquitous platform of all, finding its way into all sorts of industrial applications most people probably can't imagine.
@Xaltar_
@Xaltar_ 2 жыл бұрын
lol I love how we say "not playable" today when back when doom came out you were just happy your PC could run it and would play in a 1" wide window if you had to to make it less of a slide show. I distinctly remember being really happy with my monitor because I could overscan to the moon with it and zoom that tiny window to something more reasonable sized.
@cringemaki
@cringemaki 2 жыл бұрын
HE'S ALIVE BOIS! HE'S BACK!
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back !!! Been missing your content.
@justinchampion5468
@justinchampion5468 2 жыл бұрын
Oh Man! So glad you're back! Long time no Video! :D - Love your content, I hope you keep at it!
@MRooodddvvv
@MRooodddvvv 2 жыл бұрын
YAAAAY! I was just recently browsing ebay and see that strange board without visible 386 CPU
@Vinicius_Schneider
@Vinicius_Schneider 2 жыл бұрын
YEEEEEAH HE'S BAAAAACK
2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back!
@stefanlelieveld6779
@stefanlelieveld6779 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back. We missed you, nice SBC. Had 1 with a P1 a while back.. unfortunatly not anymore...
@JaniHalinen
@JaniHalinen 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting video because I just recently received a JUKI-730-M4-R3 sbc. It is almost the same as this Rocky 318 but also has a integrated video/lcd controller.
@CPUGalaxy
@CPUGalaxy 2 жыл бұрын
very cool
@c.zatara-673
@c.zatara-673 2 жыл бұрын
Always a good day when a new CPU Galaxy shows up! These industrial SBCs are so interesting =]
@Barabyk
@Barabyk 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see you back! Missed those videos!
@LusRetroSource
@LusRetroSource 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see your content show up on my feed again!
@MrLukealbanese
@MrLukealbanese 2 жыл бұрын
You're back!!! Hooray. One of the very best YT Tech channels, superb video, thanks so much!!
@CPUGalaxy
@CPUGalaxy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@powerspec88
@powerspec88 2 жыл бұрын
New video! Was starting to get worried! Thanks for the amazing content!
@50shadesofbeige88
@50shadesofbeige88 2 жыл бұрын
Long time no see! Glad you're back!
@Aruneh
@Aruneh 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you back!
@alexandermcalpine
@alexandermcalpine 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video!
@xero110
@xero110 2 жыл бұрын
Good to see you back, awesome little system. 👍
@BreakingBrick
@BreakingBrick 2 жыл бұрын
...and my night program is saved! Great to have you back!
@HighTreason610
@HighTreason610 2 жыл бұрын
Very good to see you again, Peter. I was actually in a discussion with someone, just a few days ago, about this "SOC" and how it might function. As such, this video was a very nice surprise, indeed. The Disk-On-Chip comes back slower than I'd expect, but it might just be the implementation on that particular SBC. Hardly matters as it's almost certainly fast enough for whatever that SBC would have been used for. It certainly is always nice to see one in use in any case and SBCs on a backplane are invariably cool.
@mattpierce5009
@mattpierce5009 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, welcome back
@alberthofmann420
@alberthofmann420 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back, I already missed you! :)
@lx_srs
@lx_srs 2 жыл бұрын
Missed your videos, glad to see you're back.
@GR8TM4N
@GR8TM4N 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back :) As always a great video. And Monkey Island at the end is always a welcome treat !! :D
@mihaigabrielbabutia4595
@mihaigabrielbabutia4595 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to see you back! Another great video that made my day!
@cypriankrenski3491
@cypriankrenski3491 2 жыл бұрын
It is good to have you back!
@paulverbruggen3726
@paulverbruggen3726 2 жыл бұрын
Hi CPU Galaxy! Glad to see another video posted - I really like your content!
@SledgeFox
@SledgeFox 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you are back! I really missed your amazing content. Thank you very much! Have a great day!
@Zerbey
@Zerbey 2 жыл бұрын
Good to have you back again, we've missed you!
@ctiborkoza8944
@ctiborkoza8944 2 жыл бұрын
Nice SBC, Nice to see you back 😉
@ciprian1919
@ciprian1919 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff!
@connclark2154
@connclark2154 2 жыл бұрын
Missed you. Good to see you back.
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech 2 жыл бұрын
This is almost the perfect DOS machine. I have a review of one of these on my channel as well. I think Windows would probably be OK, but right at the edge. 40MHz is an odd speed for a 386SX, but I'll take it. I can only imagine how much better this would have been as a DX with a math coprocessor... but there are 486 SBCs, so why wonder? Thanks for the vid!
@krystian7246
@krystian7246 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for new video 😊
@cloerenjackson3699
@cloerenjackson3699 2 жыл бұрын
Yay! I wondered what happened to you! Welcome back! You're a tech lover's dream. :)
@cmdr.tigirius6757
@cmdr.tigirius6757 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back. Love the content. We cleaned our lab, unfortunatly nothing realy special.
@FreihEitner
@FreihEitner 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see a new video from you! Interesting machine, an embedded 386 from 2003 or so. Also, I enjoy seeing the number of bytes of capacity which are "frei". :-)
@karolwojtyla3047
@karolwojtyla3047 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you're back Peter! Greetings! ;)
@CandyGramForMongo_
@CandyGramForMongo_ 2 жыл бұрын
Yea! Welcome back!
@gabrielmaligeorges4362
@gabrielmaligeorges4362 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back!!!
@clintthompson4100
@clintthompson4100 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back. You were missed by all of us. You brought us this 386 gem and it's a awesome 386 board build with a back plane expansion board. Love how if you want something more powerful you pull out the 386 and put in a 486 and hook back up the drives. I always thought this way of building your computer was a nice option as well. Have a good one.
@Legal-104
@Legal-104 2 жыл бұрын
Missed you dude!
@anomaly95
@anomaly95 2 жыл бұрын
Of course you get a thumbs-up! Also, your voice and accent is very soothing. :)
@pcuser80
@pcuser80 2 жыл бұрын
I like industrial embedded systems. And welcome back. Great channel.
@SimoWill75
@SimoWill75 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to have a new vid, welcome back! Not sure about the rest of the world, but here in Australia the AWE64 was said not as an abbreviation but as a rhyme, like AWEsome. Awe rhymes with Four.
@benharyo
@benharyo 2 жыл бұрын
👍good review🙋‍♂️
@pablosufan
@pablosufan 19 күн бұрын
Excellent!!! great Great opction to play old games from 90's.
@armchaircommenter6805
@armchaircommenter6805 2 жыл бұрын
great to have you back, peter! 👏😀 great choice in video topic, too! these old architectures turned out to be amazingly long-lived in industrial environments where cutting-edge performance wasn't needed. funnily enough, i have an email to you in my draft folder right now about a somewhat similar 486 sx-based industrial mini pc (about nuc size) that runs at 366 mhz and is apparently still available to buy new today. i've been tinkering with it for a while now, found it to be quite a convenient little box for retro gaming (e.g. usb mouse/kb support, cf slot, the only real downside being that it is limited to pc speaker) and i've been wondering if you'd be interested in taking it for a spin. looking at this video, i'm thinking you just might be. 🙂
@CPUGalaxy
@CPUGalaxy 2 жыл бұрын
wow. that sounds interesting. Just send me please the email with all needed information i need. 😃
@CommodoreFan64
@CommodoreFan64 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back, and as someone else also pointed out the Win 3.11 software looks like it's for a 6 axis milling machine, and it does not take much to run one, so I'm not surprised they used this to keep it simple.
@kemi242
@kemi242 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back! I didn't know, the 386 was still produced as late as 2003.
2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering in recent days what happened to you. Wellcome back
@mrbrad4637
@mrbrad4637 2 жыл бұрын
This is great. I have always wanted to know how a 386SX-40 would perform with DooM etc.. I had a 386Sx-25 back in the 90s and use to play doom on it.. albeit in a smaller window with graphics set to low (pixel doubling).. it ran playably when I used a Tseng labs ET4000 fast ISA video card and t turned sound blaster sound off as I had a sound sound blaster 16bit in it, but it slowed down Doom significantly
@Zerbey
@Zerbey 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I remember playing in on a 386-25 and having to hit F5 to half the graphics so it was at least playable. DooM was really meant for a 486 or higher.
@Sebastian_L.
@Sebastian_L. 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome Back! As always very interesting content, would be great to see if it can be overclocked somehow.
@RETROMachines
@RETROMachines 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, please next :)
@tongravity5668
@tongravity5668 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one!
@KabelkowyJoe
@KabelkowyJoe 2 жыл бұрын
9:00 Taken out of CNC machine XYZ axis? ENGEL, Battenfeld injection moulding machines, extruders i worked with in 2005-2010 was still based on i386 and DOS. Much more reliable than more modern Windows XP based.
@TheDIMONART
@TheDIMONART 4 ай бұрын
Windows 2000 operated CNC machine is also very reliable. I make few, and they run via LPT port
@jrherita
@jrherita 2 жыл бұрын
CPU GALAXY IS BACK!!!!
@JVHShack
@JVHShack 2 жыл бұрын
If only the BIOS could be found online so that those of us that have a 386SX PC could try it and see if it would work in another motherboard. Having a 540MB limit in BIOS for a hard drive is the worst when you can't find anything under that limit that works.
@berinslaptop
@berinslaptop Жыл бұрын
You earned your thumbs up. I have some old EZNET 200 units... those are NOT routers or switches by the same name but MSN produced internet Netpliance computers that have GEODE 6x89 or 5x85 cpus I forget. from the early 2000s
@madmax2069
@madmax2069 2 жыл бұрын
That reminds me of those Apple DOS compatibility cards back in the 90s
@atheatos
@atheatos 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back. Nice video. A bit amazing how much they managed to fit in 16MB. I have also some of these DiskOnChips. It is the top models of 256MB. Unfortunately more than ~80MB is not supported by most systems.
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back, my friend! It's so great to see you again and hear you sharing such interesting content. I really found this SoC quite interesting; these industrial SBCs are very cool and quite robust. I found the Disk-on-Chip to be a neat addition and seeing you document its performance really answered a lot of questions. I thought they'd be faster, but the fact that there's zero seek time is still going to be pretty nice. The ALi M6117C is so neat for what it is; 386SX-40s are already odd, but seeing an embedded one couldn't have been neater! This video was a gem, but so is all of your content! Very cool stuff indeed. Thank you for sharing!
@CPUGalaxy
@CPUGalaxy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you my friend ☺️
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 2 жыл бұрын
@@CPUGalaxy You’re welcome! 😊
@cristinadelvalleceballos3193
@cristinadelvalleceballos3193 2 жыл бұрын
Nice yo ser You again. Un abrazo desde Argentina
@Hublium
@Hublium Жыл бұрын
very interesting to see a machine like this. On my day job, I create software for industrial computers, though nowadays they most likely have an Intel Atom and Windows 10 LTSC. that control program seems to be made in Borland C++ or Pascal, as given away by the "check mark" and "X" button design
@NicoDsSBCs
@NicoDsSBCs 2 жыл бұрын
Those were used a lot for gaming back then. When there was a shutdown the technicians had nothing better to do than play games on the SBCs.
@alisharifian535
@alisharifian535 2 ай бұрын
I love computer chips that have my name on it, specially if they are microprocessors.
@osgrov
@osgrov 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back! I've missed your delightful videos, so this was an unexpected joy. Never heard of that ALI chip before, that's very cool. Like you I love those industrial PCs and SBCs. They can be really weird and over-engineered, and often just fun to play with. Don't see many of them nowadays sadly, but I used to get decomissioned ones from a factory I worked at some 20 years ago. Those were fun days! All gone now though, sadly I never had space to keep any of them for long.
@user-xj3yw1dv1o
@user-xj3yw1dv1o 2 жыл бұрын
Advantech produced industrial grade PCI cpu boards on Intel Atom and Intel Core gen 6th till 2019, unfortunately not available anymore, now they use their own CompactPCI standard.
@anomaly95
@anomaly95 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-xj3yw1dv1o Are you sure Advantech isn't just using the short version of PICMG 1.3 on the new boards? CompactPCI is a whole other standard, which is PICMG 2.0.
@Mike_Isakov
@Mike_Isakov 2 жыл бұрын
best channel on entire enthernet
@notneb82
@notneb82 2 жыл бұрын
Yay! The CPUGalexy drought is over!
@arniceousmaximus2183
@arniceousmaximus2183 2 жыл бұрын
Raptor was so fun
@denyda1754
@denyda1754 2 жыл бұрын
Наконец-то титры вставил в видео. :)
@artursmihelsons415
@artursmihelsons415 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool card! That ALI CPU was surprise to me.. 😂 Yeah, I still remember Windows 3.11.. Back in days, that was cool improvement in MS-DOS.. But Doom is still nostalgic as many other DOS games..
@Schule04
@Schule04 2 жыл бұрын
The DiskOnChip is basically a ROM and Flash in one. The BIOS option ROM is also inside the chip and it emulates an IDE drive. I have a thin client with a similar chip and it would conflict with drives on the secondary IDE controller if it was plugged in. I think with an adapter it can be used in any PC.
@fnjesusfreak
@fnjesusfreak 2 жыл бұрын
As for those Dallas chips, I think the idea of soldering them to the board is braindamaged and am glad that here it's socketed. (My PS/2, a 30/286, also has a socketed Dallas chip.)
@anomaly95
@anomaly95 2 жыл бұрын
On ebay, I've seen some 2 and 3 slot ISA backplanes. Just imagine fitting 3 or 4 separate SBC's into a single AT case!
@DanielLopez-up6os
@DanielLopez-up6os 2 жыл бұрын
One Could make a HandHeld 386 PC with that Board. I might try doing that.
@ms-dosman7722
@ms-dosman7722 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting card! I wonder why they did not integrate VGA, especially since it's from the 2000s. Couldn't have been that much more expensive.. unless the machine it was made for still ran on a composite monitor? I'd say that Raptor runs a little too slow on a 386SX. Especially in the later levels with much more enemies and effects, you're going to need a 486 for it to still be enjoyable.
@kubicajakub
@kubicajakub Жыл бұрын
Still waiting for new videos from this super interesting channel.
@CPUGalaxy
@CPUGalaxy Жыл бұрын
soon. Thanks for your patience.
@johnwright8814
@johnwright8814 2 жыл бұрын
I have seen many different Single Board Computers, usually as part of the Human-Machine Interface, and attached to a touchscreen. They often wait for communications to a Programmable Logic Controller and the sensors. The layout of that control software is typical. I don't play games on them though - the customer wants it back, usually yesterday,
@shadowtheimpure
@shadowtheimpure 2 жыл бұрын
One look at that software tells me it is probably for a 6-axis computer controlled milling machine.
@CommodoreFan64
@CommodoreFan64 2 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I was thinking a milling/CNC machine.
@Ryanfox1981
@Ryanfox1981 2 жыл бұрын
It may be a SBC, but for a 40MHZ SX ('almost SOC') system its really pretty impressive :)
@AlexanderWeurding
@AlexanderWeurding 2 жыл бұрын
Great info! Thank for sharing. #DudewhereismycarChristian
@IndellableHatesHandles
@IndellableHatesHandles Жыл бұрын
A board called Rocky? I bet it fights well! 🥊
@wishusknight3009
@wishusknight3009 2 жыл бұрын
These SBC's tend to go for quite a lot o money sadly. The passive packplane system I have though is a 386sx-16 and consists of several boards for the CPU module. Its rather crazy. It uses much more descrete logic than IC's. And was probably among the very fist implemented SX machines.
@1337Shockwav3
@1337Shockwav3 2 жыл бұрын
Eugh, those DoC2000 chips. Lovely idea and certainly revolutionary back then, but I've managed to break various of them due to the flash cells reserved for boot sectors going bad when developing a DoC that would plug into a commodore PC-1. I think those cells can be rewritten 30-50 times maybe. In the end a prototype "somewhat" worked, but I didn't persue to develop it into an actual, reproduceable product. On the other hand, I remember the interface being extremely easy to implement on an ISA8 bus. Good thing your SBC also has an integrated IDE interface.
@junacebedo888
@junacebedo888 2 жыл бұрын
That IDE input card 4 pin power with SD card slot (11:25) is so year 2021!! I can't believe they created such thing. Will they make an I/O card IDE interface for NVMe? (THAT would be crazy!!)
@sebastian19745
@sebastian19745 2 жыл бұрын
I just found at a recycle center nearby a similar board, the same ALI SoC but a PC104 only form factor. I am still to find a suitable PC104 video card or maybe even better, a PC104 to ISA adapter. Maybe I will do one myself as a ISA back-plane. It can make a very low power and compact early dos gaming machine. I wonder if the IDE port of ALI SoC can support dual IDE devices (master/slave) so I could add a CDROM too. I have a very beautiful Creative IDE 4x CDROM that mach ms-dos time. Great to see that CPU in action.
@RodBeauvex
@RodBeauvex 2 жыл бұрын
I do wonder if those benchmark figures could be improved by tightening the memory and bus speed settings. You did indeed have a few options, visible at 7:25, and everything is set to its most conservative (slowest) settings.
@VladoT
@VladoT 2 жыл бұрын
ALi is in fact Acer Labs international
@wskinnyodden
@wskinnyodden Жыл бұрын
Hmmm, are you sure that the white connector above the topmost serial port is not a VGA port? I believe it may as well be considering the onboard RAM chip.
@Fre1maurer
@Fre1maurer 2 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if that system hits the sweet spot for CPU speed for Wing Commander 2, a classic game which depends very on the correct system speed to work properly. Just out of curiosity, how do you capture and record the VGA output? I tried capturing VGA of my old 486 and Pentium PCs various times, and i was never successfull in DOS, even with capture boxes claiming to support VGA.
@PhirePhlame
@PhirePhlame Жыл бұрын
I am curious, is that the same sort of edge connector that you'd see on an expansion slot? And, if so, what would happen if it was plugged into a PC instead of a riser?
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