Oh god that would be crazy.

200k s2 easily in this scenario

Oeff that would be so nasty

Yep kaki can work well in those.

Since I don't have Deborah I use the zaiross galleon tiana pungbaek against no spd lead teams it works very well!

yep very much true

What other teams are you running?

Sad life, now everyone knows and can prep their defs for it

@@svencollister2355no lol. This offense is strong but dot teams and Leah teams are more prevalent so people will still be susceptible to this one. Why counter this specific offense when other people run those much more you know

@@MegaKenny9 im missing leah, so fine with me lol

Kaki post nerf might get another post nerf…. XD😂

Thanks ^.^

Without tiana Nothing works for me 😂 Btw does that team lands everything constantly for You?

​@@gabrielblox_br1395 No, mathematically only 52% of the time would Jeogun strip all 4 units, and then the same rate for landing all def breaks. Not really a reliable team.

nice team if everything lands yea

I'm only F3-C1 lol, so not every opponent team is full will, frequently no will. Sometimes joegun is just for the atk buff. I've gone 18-7 in inter server with this team, so it does ok. Only really suffers against 33% SPD lead. I have all the units for the team in the video, I'll give it a shot. @Seiishizo, I appreciate the reply 🙏

@@jaredbrown1128literally everything works in c1-c3

Yep would do more dmg for sure. but also way slower animation :P

haha don't expect any nerfs

Yep would have been stronger

Hmm Gany is an option or CP. something with pushbacks make it kind of safe

​@@SeiishizoThank you very much for the advise. I don't have gany but I luckily have Cheong so I'm 100% gonna give it a shot

Yea those will be fun to test as well:)

Yep would be a lot better

Hmm water is used sometimes in siege def/off, but fire seems kinda meh

Pretty nice team to yea!

haha interesting one, can give it a try

correct

Wrote down bael on my list :)

as nuker fatal always, as bruiser for longer fights then vio

Issue is her multipliers on the s2 isn't that high

And megan would supply def boost for even more damage for kaki due to his extra damage from def

@@dadrunk5213 defbuff does not increase kakis dmg, only the def he has from the start of the battle increases his atkpower. that means a deflead/determination set will increase his dmg but any further increase of def within the battle does not increase the dmg

@@alphahippo “Increases your Defense by 20% of your Attack Power when the battle begins, and inflicts additional damage proportional to your Defense when you attack on your turn. Critical Hits won't occur when attacking the enemy. [Automatic Effect]”

@@alphahippo based off that, its “additional damage based off your defence when you attack on your turn”. So def break would lower attack and def buff would increase it slightly. I’ll test it right now and edit this soon. Edit: just tested and i had a 5k dmg increase with def buff from megan.

Camella is very nice, only issue is landing defbreak on waters

can use both, grogen runes != kaki runes :)

yep teol is true. kaki uses pretty different runes than grogen. and grogen is great with we kinda get a psama meta back

yes it does

To my knowledge their dmg was always kind of disapointing :

@@Seiishizo that's a shame 😔

Tiana gally debo ongy?

Yea i think ongy is super strong for this still.

@@Seiishizo you don't think his passive cleanse needs a tweak?

haha would be funny :)

Very strong setup to yea

Interesting idea's

"ally" runes, they apply to the whole team, and there should still be something to check the current buffs (pause => top thingy)

they do for whole team

haha very niche :P

Katarina is very RNG for hits. but christina would be a fun one :)

True

Yea would be very nutty

and how would that team of 5 units work in arena, RTA, or any guild content?

@@crkTyphoon i was wondering the same but he's probably answering sei's question of what unit to test next

Yep checked that later did about 130

Might give that a try with byunchul :P

@@Seiishizo but then you probably want another unit than tilasha i guess

he sure does, however the s3 dmg aoe isn't that much i think.

grinds/gem

Gems and grinds yes :)

Yep, thats ture

Woonsa is kinda hard to use in AO, because the moment they go 0 will ur team will fail.

Yeah pal idk what com2us smoked to even think about nerfing him.

I think ongi still does more dmg on same set, but i could be wrong on that.

As a owner that had him before nerf i agree shits wild

true :P

Nvm u mentioned it.

^.^ Yep thats one of the more safe teams out there

issue is, water needs max stacks, and wind needs low hp :P both kind of an issue :P

Yea it is

@@Seiishizo so tell c2us to give me one 😂

Maybe :)

Its something i might try in the future yea haha

yep, works very well untill galleon does galleon things :P

Does anyone use that unit for antyhing?

@@Seiishizo i saw the youtuber mards use him for giants he dealt like 330k on golem and 2m on dark rift. So i was wondering how much he can deal on g3

The only issue with Kaki is Trianas passive and Manon paired with reviver. Been using this kind of team but the win rate isn't good.

Issue is deb is 85% chance to def break which is kinda low

@@Seiishizo that too. Her def break fails a lot tbh. Which is why I stopped using this team.

Theres so many oldschool teams that can get back in :P

yea its good to insta clap manon :P

wrote that one down ^.^

yea it adds quite some dmg

wouldn't recommend that :P better use a different defbreaker then

haha Should give that a try

YES YOU DID IT!!

maybe :P

haha, Artifacts :P ? and the def does conut

@@Seiishizo artifacts.... Since 2 years i got Not even 1 usefull Rune. Only lowest Rolls and useless Stat comps. Artifacts are biggest fail ever. I never got any usefull. Standard drop: skill2 ACC, DMG Low hp, vamp, DMG taken from x. Never got any eine with 2 compared things.its Like ark Rune with ACC res hpflat

haha no don't thinkso

Yep that team is super solid to outspeed most things

hmm could even work i guess

with what

don't have beth skilled

next 4star choice event haha

@@Seiishizo 👌😅

which one?

Written both down in my notes ^.^

def buff doesn't work, tried before its only the def that is there at the start of a battle.

​@@SeiishizoOh, interesting. Cuz i wonder why do not try with Miriam. That's why.

​@@anthonyfloris980miriam still increases the attack so he would deal more dmg if you replace galleon with miriam as attack buffer and deborah as def breaker (unreliable tho)

@@Skaumi112 ye, think about that. But Shei didn't make fast Deb so... However, for the show he could run with Jeogun lead, strip + atk buff.

Apparently i was wrong, it does work now. (i think it was changed in the past because in the past i think it didn't) However now yes, megan does increase dmg of kaki by the testing i did from about ~20k to 21.5k

I;ve heard this suggestion a few times, but what makes him so interesting :O ?

@@Seiishizo so he has hidden aim just like the other snipers but when u do hidden aim he gets about 200% bonus damage and if you kill an enemy with one attack you stay in the hidden aim pose

any time of the day is worth sharing ^.^

Hmm what setup?

@@Seiishizo I use tablo tiana galleon/neph taor against slower teams, with taor having a lot of s3 accuracy on artis. Tiana S3 > Galleon S3 > Taor S3 > Tablo S2/3, depending on how much of the control landed from Taor S3. After Tablo, Tiana can finish off with s2 and taor can snipe with squall. You don't need too much speed because the setup gives slow and speed buff before squall is used. My Taor is only at +1500 atk, 65 cr, 190 cd, and +157 speed I'm having a lot of fun with the team so far!

how much defense?

@@Seiishizo a lot less than this one at +450 lol, still kills most things.

@@newb4961 then it probably could be better optimized :P

Probably by reducing spd, i don't want that!

Nah just doing fun stuff :)