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Trackside railfanning the old B&P (Northeast Corridor) from Baltimore to Washington DC. 8/1/22

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Retired Railfan Horn Guy

Retired Railfan Horn Guy

2 жыл бұрын

Lots of high speed Amtrak plus MARC trains as we visit a variety of locations along the old Baltimore & Potomac RR.

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@USArailfan2000
@USArailfan2000 11 ай бұрын
Nice shot of the CSX Open-Hopper set. [43:50]
@USArailfan2000
@USArailfan2000 11 ай бұрын
The Classic Amtrak Silver Meteor [pre-2015] is one of my favorite Amtrak service and consist of all time. My personal pick over the Amtrak "Stupid Star"! 😂
@3985uprr
@3985uprr 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely!!!!!!
@scottyerkes1867
@scottyerkes1867 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting array of MARC and Amtrak trains. The Penn line has always been the busiest commuter line in Baltimore/Washington area. MARC and SEPTA have talked about joining the lines at Newark DE or Perryville MD Thanks RR for this video 😀💚
@tact86
@tact86 2 жыл бұрын
Well Done, Thanks for sharing!!!
@CTrail1711
@CTrail1711 2 жыл бұрын
I was just talking to another fan yesterday about how nice the ACS-64s sound.
@mikewikman5164
@mikewikman5164 8 ай бұрын
Tim, great trips you take keep up the great work, I watch all of them and will in the future
@paulcarpenito3290
@paulcarpenito3290 2 жыл бұрын
The Capital Ltd. used to swing around that wye going east and then back into Washington Union Station in the mid 60's. Then after making station stop would head east to Baltimore. I was there for one of those moves. Thank you for really great videos. I'm going to pour me another cup of coffee.
@3985uprr
@3985uprr 2 жыл бұрын
I think even the Amtrak capitol limited would back into union Station. I don’t think they do that anymore
@epilleux
@epilleux 2 жыл бұрын
I've always thought that combining double-decker cars with smaller ones looks odd.
@hirampriggott1689
@hirampriggott1689 Жыл бұрын
MARC and Boston MBTA are notorious for mixing double deckers with single deckers. it looks stupid.
@johniacono3725
@johniacono3725 Жыл бұрын
The Maryland flag is the coat of Arms of Lord Baltimore.
@johniacono3725
@johniacono3725 Жыл бұрын
MARC decided that the electric bill Amtrak was charging was excessive. In addition the service of the electric locomotive was also high so they decided that it would be cheaper to buy diesel locomotives and service it themselves.
@ViewpointUnique
@ViewpointUnique Жыл бұрын
My wife and I traveled through BWI (air to rail) a couple years ago. Highly convenient for our trip and a decent facility.
@arnellgamingandreactionvid3924
@arnellgamingandreactionvid3924 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos keep up the great content,go trains😃‼️
@coolbreeze253
@coolbreeze253 2 жыл бұрын
I recognize both Capitol and World Airways. I flew on a Capitol charter to Vietnam in 1970. I moved from N.J. to Peachtree City, GA in 1994 where World Airways had its H.Q.. CSX has a line not far from my house but no passenger rail within a reasonable drive, so I rail fan vicariously here!
@RailFanRob
@RailFanRob 2 жыл бұрын
Great footage man!! I see MARC cars come through here in Wilkes-Barre Pa on the tail end of NS-11Z occasionally ...I guess they deliver them to MARC
@JimAllen-Persona
@JimAllen-Persona 2 жыл бұрын
I love Union Station. I sometimes park there if going into DC on a weekday and take the Metro. I’m pissed that they closed my favorite place to eat right next to the postal museum across the street.
@philliplee980
@philliplee980 2 жыл бұрын
That csx train is a ballast train aka rock runner awesome video
@PGHammer21A
@PGHammer21A 2 жыл бұрын
These stations on the old B&P (Baltimore and Potomac) are not JUST ones like Odenton, Marshall BWI, and Halethorpe - which postdate the B&P going away - but espeecially MARC Bowie State University - because it is home to the relocated Bowie Tower - I prefer the MARC stations for railfanning (MARC Seabrook and MARC College Park - MARC College Park is at the eastern end of Fraternity Row).
@nigelrichardson4327
@nigelrichardson4327 2 жыл бұрын
The reason Amtrak combined the Silver Star and Meteor into one train is alleged to be because of staffing issues. I've heard they're possibly splitting into two trains again but I can't confirm. I would believe the staffing problem especially since Amtrak had the Night Owl off the timetable for 8-9 months, only now brining it back minus the sleeper and baggage service.
@3985uprr
@3985uprr 2 жыл бұрын
The way the equipment on that train is set up, I don’t think they are splitting the train. All the coaches are at one end and all of the viewliners are at the other. If they were splitting the train then you would have sleepers and coaches at one end and sleepers and coaches at the other end
@nigelrichardson4327
@nigelrichardson4327 2 жыл бұрын
@@3985uprr Well of course, I wouldn’t think Amtrak would simply split it in half. I meant in a way that Amtrak would dismantle the current consist and then sort out the equipment into the correct consists of the Meteor and Star. Not sure if it’ll be happening anytime soon, could just be speculator or a rumor
@3985uprr
@3985uprr Жыл бұрын
@@cats0182 Good. It will improve its punctuality
@hirampriggott1689
@hirampriggott1689 Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing the old GG-1's on these tracks....with Penn Central logos.
@michlo3393
@michlo3393 Жыл бұрын
the Chargers are like submarines on the inside, a bunch of doors, compartments and passageways all the way to the back. The air intake area, where the big "X" is is where I hang out and smoke cigarettes when on layovers lol
@3985uprr
@3985uprr Жыл бұрын
No wonder I see a lot of smoke coming out of them 😀😀
@CrabMan2539
@CrabMan2539 11 ай бұрын
15:30 MARC used to have a lot more. They had a bunch of AEM-7s and a few HHP-8s. They got rid of all of their toasters in 2014 but they still own a few of their hippos. They have been saying over the years several times that they want to go full diesel claiming it's because only one of the 3 lines has electrification despite the fact that that one line gets far more activity than either other line combined (and the only one with weekend service). In my opinion, they should've gotten ALP-45s.
@3985uprr
@3985uprr 11 ай бұрын
ACS64’s wouldn’t be bad
@CrabMan2539
@CrabMan2539 11 ай бұрын
@@3985uprr On a rare occasion MARC will borrow amtrak's sprinters and honestly I think they would be a good idea especially since they can do over 100mph. The SC-44s would do that speed but I've heard there's some PTC issue preventing them from safely doing that speed so they do max 90 leaving the HHP-8's still the only locomotives to do over 100mph. It would certainly cut down travel time between DC and Baltimore (which leads me to another point of confusion. I always see the hhp-8s on locals. I'm sure they do use them on express trains but it would be far more practical to use them on all express trains because they would maintain speed over 100mph for longer and it would cut down travel time tremendously).
@christophercancel934
@christophercancel934 2 жыл бұрын
To explain the Silver Star train: The truth is it's actually merged with the Meteor due to low amount workers (pandemic effect) which is why the postponed the Silver Meteor service. I heard however is supposed to come back on October 3rd of this year. I'm taking it in November to Florida. Hope it clears it up for you.
@3985uprr
@3985uprr 2 жыл бұрын
Miami riders deserve faster service. Going via Tampa is insulting.
@nachumhurvitz3544
@nachumhurvitz3544 2 жыл бұрын
I miss the flip board that used to be there! It had blinking yellow lights when the train was called by the person at the desk, who correctly pronounced "Amtrak" and all the stations on the route, WITH commas.... The HHP-8's are rarely in service, I caught one the other week. Definitely can tell the difference between those and the diesels by their smooth, quick acceleration and sustained speeds of 125mph. The diesels don't do more than 70. MARC service on the Penn Line is operated by Amtrak under contract the MTA (contracted to CSX on Brunswick and Camden). I do not understand why MARC is purchasing the diesel Charger replacements instead of some ACS-64s (I have seen some SEPTA ones waiting @ Trenton sometimes) - Penn is fully electrified and as you said, has all-day hourly service with 15-20 minute rush hour interval service with express runs etc. i would think they would be more economical and environmentally friendly than the diesels.... There is also the World Airways DC-10 that landed hard on the runway and buckled the frame. You can see it if you walk up the hill from the Dixon airpark and cross the road at the traffic light. Still sitting there
@ViewpointUnique
@ViewpointUnique Жыл бұрын
The Siemens Chargers are horrible in the Midwest. The reliability issues are ridiculous. Much quieter than the GEs though. Wish Siemens would have gotten the reliability right, they would have good potential.
@de-fault_de-fault
@de-fault_de-fault 2 жыл бұрын
I guess maybe they did it for flexibility (since they can run on their other two diesel only lines) but it seems weird to me that MARC effectively replaced their AEM7s with Chargers only to run them under the wires anyway. Like “we don’t want that electricity up there, we’re going to make our own and haul the prime mover around with us to do it.”
@USArailfan2000
@USArailfan2000 11 ай бұрын
The newer MARC Multilevel Cars are the same year-model as those owned by NJT.
@Robbi496
@Robbi496 2 жыл бұрын
The Baltimore Penn Station is in better shape now than it was in 1977, but miss the Solari Board
@yasnac7576
@yasnac7576 Жыл бұрын
Ahh yes ... The ole Philly to Baltimore on MP54's yuck
@USArailfan2000
@USArailfan2000 11 ай бұрын
San Fransisco Bay Area's Caltrain nicknames their fleet of MP40PH-3C as "Baby Bullets".
@3985uprr
@3985uprr 11 ай бұрын
F40’s pull the Bullets too
@CaradhrasAiguo49
@CaradhrasAiguo49 2 ай бұрын
31:46 is the ACS-64 towing P42DC #89 as a rescue or in preparation for the NHV - Springfield leg so they remove 1 step of the NHV locomotive switch?
@MattyC62185
@MattyC62185 Жыл бұрын
London is a very train dense area, good place to be a train spotter (UK for rail fan)
@MattyC62185
@MattyC62185 Жыл бұрын
Also, in the UK, I love the sound of those Napier Deltics. I’ve always had a love of two-stroke diesels
@MattyC62185
@MattyC62185 Жыл бұрын
So if you go to France, you will see those duck noses all over the place over there those azalea cars make up the backbone of the TGV system. My dad told me how those things can exceed 200 miles an hour and you barely notice anything. It’s awesome how you can get from Paris to Marseilles In three hours and seven minutes, that’s the same distance as Boston to Washington roughly
@steveember8972
@steveember8972 2 жыл бұрын
"Duckcela" - Love it! ;-) I'm sure they'll be fine, but, as much as I look at videos of their test runs, I just don't get that same "solid" vibe as when looking at these original Acela trainsets. There's also that odd non-continuity of line between power cars and rest of consist that (aesthetically, at least) fights with the whole aerodynamic thing. Plus, I hope, for your sake and mine, Amtrak goes with a more serious sounding horn when they go into revenue service! Meantime, you are SO right - see them, ride them, shoot them while we can.
@MattyC62185
@MattyC62185 Жыл бұрын
The “stupid star” Was a result of crew shortages combining a consists of the star of the meteor for everybody below Savannah, and they also added cars onto the palmetto for those communities above Savannah It’s all the meteors passengers were put on that train instead i rode on that stupid star consist several times it also takes a different route in land through the Carolinas. I have also seen videos of it, making its maneuver into Tampa union station If you had Distant signal(who lives in FL) calling it the superstar
@kellidelima2921
@kellidelima2921 Жыл бұрын
I think Marc needs a fleet of alp45dps
@3985uprr
@3985uprr Жыл бұрын
Oh don’t say that. Perhaps they could paint them in PRR and B&O heritage paint
@geraldtompkins5775
@geraldtompkins5775 2 жыл бұрын
The toasters or meatballs were not aerodynamic. These are much better.
@ghostengineer
@ghostengineer 2 жыл бұрын
The freight you caught at Seabrook is definitely headed for Popes creek secondary
@3985uprr
@3985uprr 2 жыл бұрын
Rock runner
@ghostengineer
@ghostengineer 2 жыл бұрын
@@3985uprr it sure of the name but it’s headed for the Popes creek secondary as CSX has no other freights on that part of the NEC other than headed to popes creek
@MDTASHA0926
@MDTASHA0926 Жыл бұрын
You ended your day at my usual spot though I do caution you I have had a few homeless bother me until they realized I don’t fool around. I was just there yesterday afternoon to see 29 head out with charger 322, the other day I saw 321 and 325 come in with train 30 from Chicago.
@3985uprr
@3985uprr Жыл бұрын
Isn’t that a fare paid zone????
@MDTASHA0926
@MDTASHA0926 Жыл бұрын
@@3985uprr yes. I ride there from another part of the city then ride back. On the weekend it’s $2.00 because I never leave the station. If they ever have a charger set come in on 30 on a Saturday or Sunday I will ride in from Rockville to get platform access for up close shots. Out of 26 delivered I have only not seen 320.
@PGHammer21A
@PGHammer21A 2 жыл бұрын
What will be interesting is comparing the two different sets of ACS-64s - in AMTRAK and MARC trim - both operated by AMTRAK crews.
@ghostengineer
@ghostengineer 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting but since Marc didn’t order acs64, it would just be a pipe dream
@3985uprr
@3985uprr 2 жыл бұрын
@@ghostengineer They borrowed them before. You got a nice electric AC system overhead. Stop burning expensive diesel fuel Marc!!!
@ghostengineer
@ghostengineer 2 жыл бұрын
@@3985uprr they did borrow Amtrak motors before but they are still in Amtrak paint and MARC didn’t order acs64s so it’s a railfan fantasy to see them painted in both colors which is the comment I responded to.
@toy4x4nj
@toy4x4nj Жыл бұрын
When the new Acela trains start running ? what are they going to do with the passenger cars?
@loocpoc
@loocpoc 2 жыл бұрын
Just an off beat question, but are airline employees covered under a government retirement like railroad retirement?
@dccavalier
@dccavalier 2 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your videos. Maybe I’ve missed the video you’ve done but just wondering have you ever done a train ride on the Marc Camden line between Washington DC and Camden Yards near the inner Harbor in downtown Baltimore? A few years ago Marc decided to add weekend service and they did so along the northeast corridor. I always thought it might be more useful to use the Camden line since it went to the highly touristy area of the inner harbor instead of the more uptown Penn station in Baltimore
@3985uprr
@3985uprr 2 жыл бұрын
Haven’t ridden it.
@averyzucco220
@averyzucco220 Жыл бұрын
Why doesn't MARC use more electric service on the NEC? Always struck me as odd that services like MBTA run diesel service over the NEC. Or maybe I'm just used to it in Philly where we have all-electric service.
@3985uprr
@3985uprr Жыл бұрын
Amtrak charges huge amount to use the electric and service the electric locos. Cheaper with diesels
@briandynamite7942
@briandynamite7942 Жыл бұрын
Aparently they did away with the silver meteor because of crew issues in the pandemic that Amtrak hasnt been able to overcome
@LeoFriedman06
@LeoFriedman06 11 ай бұрын
Duckcela 😅😅
@Robbi496
@Robbi496 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the Silver Meteor and Silver Star alternated days??
@steveember8972
@steveember8972 2 жыл бұрын
Any idea why the Springfield train out of Washington has the diesel tucked in behind the Sprinter? (31:49)
@3985uprr
@3985uprr 2 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking they are delivering it to New Haven for use on the Springfield shuttles.
@steveember8972
@steveember8972 2 жыл бұрын
@@3985uprr Thanks!
@loocpoc
@loocpoc 2 жыл бұрын
Just an FYI it's pronounced Gal u det .
@3985uprr
@3985uprr 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like a tough word to pronounce
@MBTAAmtrakProductions130
@MBTAAmtrakProductions130 2 жыл бұрын
I subscribed
@itchycam
@itchycam 2 жыл бұрын
my guess for the CSX is coke
@Robbi496
@Robbi496 2 жыл бұрын
My bad, short staffing issues?
@dirkmontgomery5983
@dirkmontgomery5983 2 жыл бұрын
Septa saposed to be gitting double deck cars
@robloxboy5712
@robloxboy5712 2 жыл бұрын
You should railfan on the new brunswick line
@3985uprr
@3985uprr 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve done it in the past over several trips/videos
@robloxboy5712
@robloxboy5712 2 жыл бұрын
Njt leased 4145 it was mostly seen on the new brunswick
@dirkmontgomery5983
@dirkmontgomery5983 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda look like a porpuss not a duck
@Jeff-uj8xi
@Jeff-uj8xi 2 жыл бұрын
MARC is as bad as the MBTA, running diesels under catenary. What did MARC do with their electric locomotives? The Feds should pull their funding for doing stupid things like this. But they get away with it.
@3985uprr
@3985uprr 2 жыл бұрын
Saw 2 HHP8’s but rush hour only
@Cactus732
@Cactus732 2 жыл бұрын
MBTA don’t really have a choice, a lot of the MBTA stations aren’t electrified. Even on the Providence/Wickford junction line some of the MBTA platforms are on non-electrified loops despite having catenary on the through tracks.
@thesixthentrance1429
@thesixthentrance1429 2 жыл бұрын
You really have a point with that.
@Thedecider1984
@Thedecider1984 Жыл бұрын
still wearing those damn maskd
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