I literally remember watching fan theory videos on youtube years before Saw 3D came out that theorized basically every aspect of Dr Gordon being a Jigsaw apprentice that they ended up using in the movie. I remember watching the movie for the first time and wondering if the creators just saw the youtube videos and said "Fuck it, throw that in the plot for fan service!".

“You’re no Mark Hoffman, you’re no Dr. Gordon, you’re not even an Amanda. I am more interested to see what Logan does.” 😂💀

I loved how primitive the Spiral traps are in comparison to the rest of the series. John Kramer was an engineer, Schenk wasn’t, and it’s one of those minor details that could have been skipped and made the movie make less sense. My only issue with Spiral is that like Saw 3D, it feels incomplete. It would have been better as a 2-part movie or as a TV mini-series.

In my opinion I still think Spiral is still over hated but I definitely see the massive flaws it has in its storytelling and its characters. I still enjoy it but its not as good as I thought it was when first coming out of the theater 2 years ago.

The public trap was suppose to be a flashback trap where John and Dr Gordon were watching from the crowd but they scrapped it and made it present day

The “handicap parking at he damn mall!” lives in my head rent free for some reason

My Wife was so excited with how family friendly this was!!!

I remember seeing Spiral in theaters and saw the partner twist reveal super early on. Not from his "trap" mind you, but during the scene where he's on the phone with Chris Rock with the "baby" crying in the background. I specifically remember seeing that in theaters and thinking "that's your everyday stock baby crying sound effect, they couldn't get something a bit more unique?" And they turned that into part of the plot twist 💀

I don't think Hoffman's backstory was retconned in Saw 3D. The way I understood it, the police brutality moment happened sometime after his sister's death, furthering the idea that he was since, slowly but surely, getting into the idea of inflicting violence to cope with his own loss. This was also teased as a character trait in Saw VI when we saw Hoffman listening to the recordings of that film's opening trap, or when he expressed to Jill his all of a sudden enthusiasm to become Jigsaw's sole successor. He was blackmailed into being a successor at first, but he has since clearly developed a dangerous liking to the torture devices. Otherwise why would he even bother carrying out John's will after his death (and Amanda's)? Saw VII made me hate Hoffman, but for all the right reasons. As a villain among villains, he was resourceful, commited, and unhinged. He orchestrated multiple traps in order to disorient the IA and get his revenge on Jill, and was succesfull. I was so upset during my first time watch when we saw him getting away with everything... ... but then Dr. Gordon shows up for a final "game over" and it made me so happy. I was actually a fan of the twist. A tad obvious in hindsight, yes, but when rewatching the franchise, that piece of knowledge made the films feel much more plausible. Plus I love the idea of going full circle to the bathroom from the original. Idk, Saw 7 has its share of faults, but I can at least rewatch it in the same vein as the prior 6 films. It provides a nice closure, solid collection of traps and a handful of interesting ideas of its own. Jigsaw and Spiral, on the other hand...

I'll always have a soft spot for Spiral, sure its not that great, but as someone who came into this series when most of the movies had already been released, this was my first Saw movie I saw in theaters, and had a lot of fun with seeing it on the big screen.

They should make a Cult of Jigsaw movie where all the apprentices that are still alive work together. It sounds stupid but I think it could work.

Thank you for introducing my family to these films, such a family friendly series

Again so family friendly 😊

An old friend of mine’s dad played Detective Fisk in Saw 7. He was a really nice guy when I knew him.

I’m being honest after watching Spiral, even though it had a very predictable twist, I kinda liked it

19:48 I love the fact that you specified the pre-slap aspect of Chris 😂 much needed clarification

Pre Slap Chris Rock Comment Was Hilarious 😂

Praying that saw X can revive the franchise

The most infuriating thing about Saw 3D...nay, the entire franchise...was turning Gordon in to an apprentice. Maybe its just because I'm a Cary Elwes fan, but Gordon is easily the most likeable and sympathetic character in the entire series. And at this point there is no 'he has a point' defense for Jigsaw...so it just completely undermines his entire arc from the first movie.

props to chris/the editor for pumping these videos out so quickly i love the horror franchise retrospectives we should get more of them!

Spiral is my 3rd favorite saw film. The idea that Jigsaw inspired people makes sense and it shows Jigsaw's legacy can continue indefinitely

Been enjoying this little series! last years Hellraiser was a treat too! look forward to seeing more of these review series soon man! :)

17:50 I’ve seen another KZfaqr say the same thing. I think you guys misunderstood. Logan went to war BEFORE this all started. He went to war, came back a broken man, messed up the X-rays, then jigsaw kidnapped him, saved him then gave his life purpose by forgiving him and making him his apprentice. Logan says it himself! He that he came from war a broken man but that John gave him his purpose. By that statement, he couldn’t have meant that he went to war AFTER he became Saw’s practice.

“You know me, I get excited for everything” that’s why we love you Chris

The 8th film holds a special place in my heart because it was the first Saw film I actually got to see in theaters. To this day I still recall having a lot of fun with it, and it did add Eleanor Bonneville, one of the most interesting characters in the series. On rewatches, I like Logan more and more, and I love the Laser Collar trap and the few John Kramer scenes. So that film I rank in the middle. Spiral… is a good film on its own. But it is lackluster as a Saw film. I think if it was instead a remake of Seven, it would have worked better. That being said… I recall being surprised by Chris Rock’s performance, Angie Garza was cool new character, and of course SLJ is a legend in his own right, and what’s not to love about hearing him say “You wanna play games, motherf**ker?” Saw 7… Ouch. The most painful to watch, and not because of the traps (although the Silence Circle is one of most cringeworthy traps in the series). No, half of Saw 7 is great. Hoffman vs Jill… was awesome, it showed what happens when Hoffman goes absolutely insane, and his Terminator-style rampage in the precinct is a blast to watch. Doctor Gordon’s scenes were also pretty awesome. What kills Saw 7 is its trap plot. I despise Bobby and everyone involved other than Joyce, who dies and did nothing wrong in one of the most mean-spirited traps. Gibson was annoying, in fact I laugh at his death scene. The survivor group was a good idea, but it was barely there and it shouldn’t have had anything to do with Bobby. Also, they needed to explain more on Dr. Gordon, especially since it was never explained why he joined Kramer after everything he was put through. Overall Saw 7 is okay, but to me it’s easily the worst film in the series. And no, I refuse to call it Saw 3D because the gimmick was unnecessary, and I won’t call it The Final Chapter as it was on home releases. It’s Saw 7, and hopefully there is a follow-up to make its ending better. It’s kind of sad. Saws 1-6 are so frickin’ great to me, it’s sad that the next three fell down so much in comparison. By the way, Chris. I have my own theory on who those two pigheads from Saw 7 actually were. One is very simple… Logan. He’s got the motive (Jill’s death to him would be comparable to his wife’s death) and he literally says “10 years ago, I came out of the war a broken man. Jigsaw put the pieces of my life back together.” Which means actually he was tested after he was at war, so his role in Saws 1-7 is completely an open question, making it add up for him to help Gordon. As for the other one? Well it may be an out-there idea, but the series is known for this kind of thing. My theory (pending anything that Saw X reveals) is the last pighead was… Eleanor. Even if he’s in her 30’s in the 8th film, my theory is she was one of the early tests before Seth died, one that Hoffman found and didn’t report nor find Eleanor, taking the puppet to use for his fake trap (which would be why he didn’t report it), and she joined in similar fashion to Amanda… she saw John’s methods as effective. The “Jigsaw Fangirl” thing was merely a coverup, and her being Logan’s alibi fits in this theory. Her reasoning for going after Hoffman would be that he strayed too far away from John’s methods, and since none of them knew he wasn’t planning any more games when they went after him, she would at least want to ensure any future games wouldn’t be conducted by someone who strayed too far from the ideology. So there you have it. Saw X could unravel this, but if it doesn’t and we never get a sequel to Jigsaw… this theory would still hold as possible. I still hope there is a sequel to Jigsaw nonetheless, I want to see Logan and Eleanor return even if they weren’t the two that helped Gordon. Looking forward to Saw X, I think it’s going to be another fun ride in the same vein as Saw 6, with elements of Saw 2, a combo of two fan-favorite films with a couple of spices of its own sounds delightful.

John Kramer and Hoffman are my favorite characters in the Saw franchise.

Chris I love these videos! I think your way of explaining movies is so vibrant and great I really hope you can do more movie franchises.

I remember liking Jill when I first watched these. A fact I continue to be embarrassed by 😅

Yes saw 3D Jigsaw Spiral All had problems. But theres things I like about each one. Saw 3D Hoffman was a badass and seeing Gordon was a treat. Bobbys storyline with all the weird traps were meh. Jigsaw. Super unique and kepy me guessing thoughout and had a nice end twist. Demigorgan head was silly and I speak for the dead line was lack luster. Spiral. The killer was out for revenge and the traps couldnt be escaped. Great ending imo. A tad weird for a saw movie but had the element of a cool end twist. Also there was no guessing with who was worthy and who wasnt. Sooo mamy loop holes with John Kramers ways like 2 people battling to the death. This movie simplified things.

I watched Spiral in theaters with my gf and we had a blast the whole time. Maybe we were just having fun but we did not expect that reveal ending. And when “Hello Zepp” started playing at the end we went crazy.

Cris, I been waiting for this all day ? Lol why didn’t it come out sooner. I need more 3c films lol *great job on your work*

OKAY HERE WE GO The woman whose trap was dangling above lawnmowers and they had to try to kick each other off... That trap is literally impossible to pull off. First of all, they had to get all the lawnmowers going, and it seems there is no room to move around. Secondly, they somehow got two UNCONSCIOUS people to hold onto a horizontal pole and they DID hold onto those poles until they woke up and realized what was happening. That, right there, is the BIGGEST problem I have with this series. I cannot wait to hear some of the explanations people may have for how it was done. Please, humor me.

Love love love your content 3C. YOU ARE the voice of the movies! Thanks for the amazing work you do.

I was hoping you’d drop this soon! Didn’t expect today! Thanks Chris. Major thanks

I just went to search for your 3rd review. Keep up the good work Chris!

I’ve been really enjoying these reviews cant wait for use to review saw x

4:20 Big Linkin Park fan too bro. Awesome to hear that Chester was in this movie (I mean, I haven’t seen the movies, but I know of his cameo).

I'm pretty sure the reason why John was wearing a hat backwards wasn't because they weren't trying to make him look young but to make him blend into the crowd. Still, it was definitely a highlight of Saw 3D besides the badass scene of Hoffman killing to cops at the police station, the traps like the fishhook one, the pulling teeth one and the eyes and mouth one. And last the bear trap kill at the end except for the 3D effects.

Loving these family friendly reviews Chris.

love this recap, can’t wait to see saw x tonight!!

Thank you so much for these videos! As someone who loves horror but can’t stomach these movies I love these play by plays you do for these movies! I can feel like I watched it and understand it all without having to deal with all the trauma of watching them 😂 like I just wanna know the stories I don’t need all the rest!😂

Finally been waiting for this video❤

Im so hyped for Saw X

Love these family friendly videos!

Love when you do the franchise reviews bro! Keep these coming

Awesome video 3c films

I actually liked Spiral. I hope it gets some kind of continuation down the road

Just finished your last saw review perfect timing

I really hate that Jill got killed off. I think it'd be better, cooler and give us something for the fans to like had it been different. It would have been better if Lawrence took Hoffman before he found Jill in the station after killing the cops. Lawrence being the final layer of protection that John left for her and that was what the envelope entailed or should have. It is dumb just leaving Lawrence as the revenge in case Jill gets killed, it makes no sense. John would want to protect her, not just have Lawrence seek revenge.

Imo I like Saw 3D more than the other two bc Hoffman was a beast I wish the storyline would have continued tho

That laserdisc joke was amazing I spit out my champagne, papi 😉

The issue I had with ‘Spiral’ was that I guessed the killer from the trailer never mind the actual movie. Once you got so far into it you realised that nobody was gonna survive their trap so there was no tension or questioning which I always love from a saw movie

I do believe everyone has the right to their own opinion. But as for me I love Jigsaw. It feels so different and the traps are very unique. Sure it may have faws but don't all of them have them. I'm going to see saw x in the next coming days and I'm very happy because saw 2 is one of the best of the franchise and I'm very happy to see Chris's review for it. 😊

Your videos make my day cris.

I don’t hate spiral but it was my first time being old enough to watch saw movie in theaters with a ticket I bought, theater was empty and I wasn’t blown away but I’ll always have love for Chris rock for bringing it back to life. I’m going to see saw X today and it’s actually a packed theater.. so I’ll have the true saw experience I’ve always wanted where it’s terrible or not

SAW 3D was Premiered here on network TV on a channel called "5" - Which premiered it as a TV style series in the same vein as CSI or Law and Order, which is what it also used to show too. I remember the advertisement's for it were very strange- almost like it was made for TV.

I actually picked up the 3D Blu-Ray of Saw 7 to watch on my PlayStation VR hooked up to my PS4 and it looked great. I really liked the movie too.

Nice vid bro

Damn I literally just finished binging the first 2 saw videos like 7 minutes ago and you already posted the third part.

Very family friendly video love the cleaness

Chris never fails to post a banger

I still think they should have kept Agent Strahm alive longer. He was a great foil that the last few films were never able to replace.

I’m bouta watch saw x in literally 2hrs can’t wait to see your review 3c

Idk Chris I may not like these films thattt much but I will say the Love Triangle trap is pretty gnarly and one of my favorites just because of the reasons you listed, for me it was interesting/screwed up/in broad daylight in front of a crowd like that's pretty gnarly and then having the crowd not be able to help

the baby one honestly kind of funny when you think about Kramer next door just watching this play out

Saw train stil going, awsome🔥😍 Going to se Saw X tonight, i am hyped🔥🔥

I was so excited and anticipating this video all day! Great content always!

It is really frustrating because that limping in the Michael video in SAW II, it was apparently the director, Darren Lynn Bousman, in a cameo. And he was just trying to give the scene a little pizzazz, and he decided that giving a little limp would be the way to do it. It was not originally intended to be Dr. Gordon in that video. And I told people about this commentary tidbit for years, and then saw 3d comes along and "proves" everyone else right. I was furious in the theater. I think I actually yelled at the screen.

i was 17 when Jigsaw came out, and that movie was my first introduction to saw because a youtuber i loved at the time had a collaboration with the release so i have a very big soft spot for that movie lol

12:10 jigsaw did introduce me to the saw series and i even really wanted to see it in theatres! i bought tickets and everything but they said i couldnt go in because i was too young even if i went with a parent so i couldnt see it in theatres. but in an hour in finally gonna get to see Saw X in theatres

YOOO 3C LETS GOOO

Can’t wait for the x review. Just watched it today and let me just say it was A FANTASTIC WATCH EVERYONE GO WATCH IT NOW!!!!

Keep staying super groovy and HAPPY HALLOWEEN!

thank you for the family friendly content!

I like how I saw those posts on that fan group and then I see the very same post on a video lol

Live or die, make your choice.

Bro dropped this as im on the way to the theater for Saw X….perfect timing 😂

Even Kramer had some traps that were damn near impossible. The flammable one from saw 1 was probably the hardest one

Such a great family friendly series.

Never been crazy about any of the Saw Movies

Just as one of your fans … I’d love for you to give us your list of all the traps like from best to worst , as well as apprentices, movies, etc I think you should do that after saw x JUST A THOUGHT from a loving fan of yours ❤❤❤❤❤😢

I gott be honest the new voice for spiral felt pretty nice to me I didn’t mind it at all

I watched all three of your reviews in a row they're so funny and so good!! I actually love jigsaw the most after the first three, even more than three cuz it's not that good. Saw X really disappointed me and I lost my mom to cancer a year and a half ago and I cried so hard during most of the first half. It was a mess.

Wow nice Chris another family friendly video 😂👍

Gatta love Chris's reviews

I thought the reason they were in a trap in Saw 3d, wasn't because of the affair.. it was because both of them were committing crimes for her affection

I remember seeing dr Gordon theories online way back in saw 2 . I was so convinced he’d be back I told one of my friends he’s going to be in saw 5 Iol.

As a saw fan although these movies weren’t that great I was just happy to get another movie in the saw universe. And with krammer back now I’m so excited!!!

I barely remember Spiral at all. It’s funny how I can remember more of Jigsaw which I haven’t seen in 5 years

Loving the family friendly content’

"I don't got a 3D TV. You got a 3D TV? Who's got a 3D TV? James Cameron got all the 3D TVs, doesn't he?" Liked and subscribed based on that alone.

2:00 I GOT A 3D TV. Dont know where the glasses are and it came with the house but I GOT A 3D TV

well said you sound it up how i felt about the movies lol

Saw 3D be looking like a days of our lives episode 😂. Jigsaw isn't that bad i enjoyed it right up til the end because of the another apprentice, the twist and that the slow pace was actually really expecting more from it. Spiral I think is a good spinoff idea but the ending again like jigsaw I got annoyed with the new apprentice twist because they could've made it a standalone murder mystery and the killer to still be Chris Rock's partner but rather let him be not revealed as the killer and for some reason Spiral should've been a Tv show because in my opinion the concept works well in tv form.

Lol hell yeah! Chris are you going to wear you saw apprentice shorts

I forgot that I saw Jigsaw, but I know I didn't see Spiral. So hyped for Saw X

Best family friendly content on KZfaq

My fav with 7-9 is jigsaw and spiral. Loved 7 also cuz Gordon came back back the other showed where the police corruption came in that was mentioned in saw 2.

Wow, I almost thought this was a Fast and Furious review because of how Family friendly is it

More content for families to binge on Thank you