4.3 V6 Corvair first drive. FAILURE? SUCCESS? What did we learn?

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4.3 V6 Corvair first drive. FAILURE? SUCCESS? What did we learn?

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Күн бұрын

This is the tail of the first drive of the 1964 Corvair with a rear mounted 4.3 V6 engine. We found things that will need improvements for sure! We did find out it will hit 70 mph easily! It handles very well, stops well and drives strait.
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@johncaballero8013 Ай бұрын

A lot of modifying to be done. Is a neat idea. Definitely a better engine than the flat 6 that your Corvair originally came with. Wish you all the best!

@Raycr Ай бұрын

There was a lot of brain work on this one for sure! Thanks for watching

@barryhuddlestun3098 11 ай бұрын

Nice job! You should make a similar dam on the driver's side. Then you could have a cold air intake on that side.

@michaelfalkenstein2544 6 ай бұрын

Keep it original

@Raycr 6 ай бұрын

It's a little late for that! We have others that are still the way GM built them

@PeterLee-zn3jl 7 ай бұрын

Lakewood side louvers would allow more air e try... And yes a perimeter to radiator , and a fan shroud to help cooling... Good work..!

@quadsman11 8 ай бұрын

Agree with you on your cooling challenges and planned solutions 100% ! Every re-engineering design concept has it's challenges ! Without any challenges, there would be no reward !!! Great job with the project so far ! Merry Christmas !

@Raycr 8 ай бұрын

Thank you hope your Christmas is merry. We hope to get back to the Corvair this spring

@markcollins457 7 ай бұрын

I have been fascinated with the Corvair since a kid and the rear mounted V6 is always been an idea I tossed around. I thought side quarter panel scoops made sense and an aluminum V6.

@untouched303659 3 ай бұрын

imagine if gm kept the Corvair around and put the lf4 twin turbo v6 out of the Cadillac ATS in it. Turbo charged all aluminum v6 pushing like 450 hp.

@AdventuresWithMe00 10 ай бұрын

I like what you did with this. Very unique and creative. Made me wonder why I hadn’t seen one before?

@Raycr 10 ай бұрын

There's a few around. There's a ramp side with a fuel injected 4.3, that install is very clean.

@kennybryant6577 Ай бұрын

Radiator in front venting under bumper no problem cooling

@dennishedrick5108 8 ай бұрын

I would think matching air scoops or lovers in the rear quarter panels would go along way to giving more air

@saltracer1 Жыл бұрын

interesting project for sure!

@Raycr Жыл бұрын

Thanks it's been an experience for sure

@jeffreychristianson9134 Жыл бұрын

Congratulations that's so cool to see an old car back on the road again 🎉

@Raycr Жыл бұрын

Thanks I've already been in to the older cars

@janfswedane Жыл бұрын

Well, the idea of opening the decklid/hood slightly was used with great success by FIAT on their ABARTH editions of the 500/600...

@Raycr Жыл бұрын

@@janfswedane Thanks, The problem with having the hood gaped in the front (hinged end) is that we need to get the air out of under the hood

@jeanlawson9133 Жыл бұрын

Awesome 😎 you got this....If that is your farm you were cruising...Great place.... I like this project...

@Raycr Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching! Yup, this is our place. I kinda have to live in the sticks with my habits. Lol

@jonminnella4157 2 ай бұрын

Cool build I was thinking to do the same with 3.8 l67 in regards to your idea about the rad you need free air delivery for that to work well I would do like the fiero ans Mont in the front on a angle

@patrickbass3542 Ай бұрын

I would expect better than 70 mph easily!!!!

@maryandwilliam Жыл бұрын

This is just too cool! (No pun intended).

@Raycr Жыл бұрын

Thanks, we kinda like it too. lol

@DavidEssex-fe6mx Ай бұрын

The American Porch Dinosaur! Lol😅

@Friedbrain11 10 ай бұрын

Rear lights look odd with there being 3 instead of 2. No 'Vair came with 3 LOL

@johanbjork1650 Жыл бұрын

The original Brittish Mini which was front engine transversly mounted had a similar radiator arrangement with i mounted longitudly next to the engine. They got it to work, i am sure you can.

@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 11 күн бұрын

On a Chieftain tank the radiators sit above the engine under the top cover grill blows the heat out the top fans on the back/underside of the rads . They can be rotated to the vertical position with the cover off. Fit the rad under the hood.

@peterantonopoulos2572 10 ай бұрын

Grreat installation ,im sure you'll work out the air flow issues. Shout out from the boyz in montreal

@Raycr 10 ай бұрын

Thank you. I hope to get back to this project soon

@autosalvage Жыл бұрын

they make cooler and fan on the corvairs that had ac you could get a ac condensor and t off the water going though that also and have a fan mounted on it where it would bring the air in from the hood without cutting the hood then you could run some duck work on the rad side and mount a small fan to bring more air in on that side with cutting anything this sure has been great to see you put that in there

@NathansMoparGarage Жыл бұрын

Looks good crammed in there. Maybe you can adjust your hinges to raise up the end of the lid and get a kind of a ram air effect in there

@Raycr Жыл бұрын

Thank you , we need to go the opposite way need to draw air out. I did think about propping the lid open some

@brracing7861 Жыл бұрын

What a unique project car. Maybe a good inlet source of air is from the Right Hand Rear wheelhouse. Cut a square out of it. Build a Duct Funnel ? The 5.0 Mustang Renegade racers used to draw fresh air in from the Right front wheelhouse, no inner fenderwell like GM Cars have. Drilled cut out a 3 - 4 inch hole into the inner wheel area through thick Fenderwell Unibody, ran the aluminum tubing to and attached a K&N air filter. Disadvantage was filter got Road dirt on it driving but cool ambient High pressure air there driving. No hoodscoops or custom Ram Air design expense required. Still done that way 20 years later here Turbocharged LS GM Cars.

@Raycr Жыл бұрын

Thanks, getting the intake air from the fender well wouldn't be a good idea since we live on a gravel road

@brracing7861 Жыл бұрын

@@Raycr Could maybe fit the present air filter in a box, like an Igloo. Run a fresh air pipe to it, from the tail pan of the Corvair?

@Raycr Жыл бұрын

@@brracing7861 that's a possibility, the battery will be relocated to the front and we'd have that space to do something with

@craigrendahl3718 13 күн бұрын

Why not move the battery to the front so you can then have a fender well intake?

@Raycr 13 күн бұрын

@@craigrendahl3718 that is the plan. Move a little weight around and build a cold air box

@brracing7861 Жыл бұрын

The latest Electric fans are Brushless ball bearings equipped motors. Still pricey. That old Ford Crown Victoria Cop Car Electric Fan is a good one. C4 Corvette guys used for a while. Stock was crap on C4 Corvette. Some Dodge Intrepid electric fan guys used to talk about using also small and moved alot of CFM Air

@Raycr Жыл бұрын

We have to watch out for the depth of the fan assembly. There isn't much room

@PapiDoesIt Жыл бұрын

I looked at this and did a little head scratching. Couldn't you leave the louvers the way they are and simply reverse the fans? Just blow the hot air out. Anyway, it's been fun watching the process.

@Raycr Жыл бұрын

My thoughts were that we didn't want to draw the hot engine air across the radiator. Might not be a big deal but that's the reasoning for it

@brianyoung9014 Жыл бұрын

Put a one inch deep shroud on the radiator and mount the fan on the shroud so you pull air through the whole surface of the radiator.

@Raycr Жыл бұрын

We're looking at a dual fan full shroud unit, a little trim to fit and it might be golden! Just need to watch out for the depth

@amjrpain919 Жыл бұрын

Sounds alot Like the original motor ...

@Raycr Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching. It does keep the sleeper image going

@bigunone 4 ай бұрын

I vaguely remember someone in the 60s adding a scoop just before the fender to bring cool air into the engine bay, like Ford did for the brakes on the mustang except these were the "NASA" style

@duanepierson4375 4 ай бұрын

NACA

@douglasmckinley-sr1507 2 ай бұрын

Yenko Stinger

@laautoworks Жыл бұрын

Awesome Man!

@Raycr Жыл бұрын

Thanks. Just about close to done

@stanallport6746 6 ай бұрын

i would try it with hood off and see what ir needs exactly

@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 Жыл бұрын

Air is circulating around the radiator. Fix that and place a scoop or air inlet on the right side, as well.

@Raycr Жыл бұрын

Thanks, we are going to seal around the radiator to prevent the recirculation of the heated air. It's in the works

@BuckDOESIT Жыл бұрын

Stay cool 😎

@Raycr Жыл бұрын

Thanks BUCK, tryin' to!

@jamesthompson8008 Жыл бұрын

After reading thru the comments, I'd think the shroud combined with your idea of walling off both ends of radiator 'should' work. IS it worth trying before cutting the decklid, possibly losing your sleeper edge??

@Raycr Жыл бұрын

I'm thinking that most wouldn't know the difference with more louvers. Corvair guys, on the other hand, would spot it across the parking lot! lol

@user-ni6gk7qp5b 4 ай бұрын

por favor cuando ud adacto el motos v6 en el corvair , lo acoplo al tren de traccion original del corvair, quiero decir acoplo el motor v6 a la transmicion y a la caja original del corvair

@Raycr 4 ай бұрын

We are using the original transmission and rear axle from the Corvair. We used an adaptor belhousing to do this

@jeffstone7912 Ай бұрын

GM vortec 4.3 ???

@Raycr Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching. I think this 4.3 would not be considered a vortec. It's from an 85 pickup

@georgeochoa3089 7 ай бұрын

Nice … how about disc brakes ?

@Raycr 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching. I'm pretty sure that disk brakes aren't necessary with the weight of the car and the balance

@GaryPierron-ym7xm 3 ай бұрын

Plowed like a JohnDeere.

@Raycr 3 ай бұрын

Not a problem, I'm in farm country

@Isaac-sv7xt 3 ай бұрын

@@RaycrI have some questions about the Corvair the original engine in mine went out and was wondering if you would recommend the v6 swap and if you used the original transmission

@Raycr 3 ай бұрын

@Isaac -sv7xt. It all depends on what you want out of your car. Do you want to just have a solid dayly driver? Do you want to increase proformance? You should evaluate what you want to end up with. The stock engine can be a good little power plant.

@timcastens1150 7 ай бұрын

When I had a heating problem with a motorcycle I went with 100 percent antifreeze, 30 years later it hasn't overheated again, just saying

@Raycr 7 ай бұрын

I'm going to start with air flow management, I'm sure with this configuration that there's room for improvement!

@nojunkwork5735 3 ай бұрын

Pure antifreeze is way less efficient for cooling than antifreeze mixed with water. If you run pure antifreeze your engine will run warmer, not cooler.

@timcastens1150 3 ай бұрын

@@nojunkwork5735 believe what you want, I tried in vain mixing it , it kept running hot until I went with straight antifreeze, doesn't antifreeze have a higher boiling point than water

@johnchandler1687 Ай бұрын

Former radiator man here: 50/50 mix of water to antifreeze gives optimum cooling. Yes, antifreeze has a higher boiling point, but you don't want a coolant that absorbs more heat. It also loses heat slower than water. Can't say about your motorcycle, but it is not likely that it's running cooler no matter what your gauge says. For best results in any water cooled motor use distilled water. Captured rain water will do.

@timcastens1150 Ай бұрын

@@johnchandler1687 like I said I tried it like you pros said and it kept running hot so I did what I did and the light hasn't come on and the coolant hasn't come out your saying the very same thing the Suzuki people told me but it didn't work for my bike, my saying is whatever works as a matter of fact the fan hardly ever comes on, it's got to b really hot for it to Evan come on.

@graydonjones6912 Жыл бұрын

Without proper airflow from the outside it will never run cool

@Raycr Жыл бұрын

We're working on airflow control now, and a fan setup with more CFM and shrouding. Hopefully that will get us where we need to be

@glengabruch4664 5 ай бұрын

That's a really cool build/ project!!!👍Please check out my 1968 Barracuda fastback powered by a rowdy 512 stroker backed by an A833 4 speed manual. I think you'll approve. 👌

@Raycr 5 ай бұрын

That Cuda looks good and sounds great!

@glengabruch4664 5 ай бұрын

@@Raycr Thanks a lot. It's an absolute pleasure to drive. 👍