4 LIES You Believe About Determinate Tomatoes: Everything You Know Is WRONG

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The Millennial Gardener

The Millennial Gardener

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This video disproves 4 LIES you believe about determinate tomatoes! The internet is full of myths surrounding growing determinate tomatoes that aren't true. This video will prove that everything you know is wrong about determinate tomato plants and why you should be growing more of them in your garden.
I've been growing tomatoes most of my life, but I only started growing determinate tomatoes 5 years ago. That's because I believed they were inferior to indeterminate tomatoes based on lies I read on the internet. The truth is they are SUPERIOR producers! Determinate tomatoes produce tomatoes more efficiently than indeterminate tomatoes, often ripen earlier, are usually less prone to tomato diseases and are much less maintenance! Determinate tomatoes should be the foundation of your annual tomato garden, and I'll prove it to you in this video.
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0:00 You've Been Lied To About Determinate Tomatoes!
1:14 Lie #1
2:48 4 Great Tasting Determinate Tomato Varieties
4:08 Lie #2
9:18 Lie #3
11:43 Lie #4
13:22 Square Foot Gardening Tomato Growing Tips
16:20 Adventures With Dale
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@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
If you found this video helpful, please "Like" and share to help increase its reach! Thanks for watching 😀TIMESTAMPS for convenience: 0:00 You've Been Lied To About Determinate Tomatoes! 1:14 Lie #1 2:48 4 Great Tasting Determinate Tomato Varieties 4:08 Lie #2 9:18 Lie #3 11:43 Lie #4 13:22 Square Foot Gardening Tomato Growing Tips 16:20 Adventures With Dale
@tfcig2019
@tfcig2019 Жыл бұрын
Curious where you got the huge Sun Shade/Cloth? Just built my own hoop house (sorta) which is an odd size.
@Giggiyygoo
@Giggiyygoo 5 ай бұрын
Back before I got really into gardening I grew determinant tomatoes. Threw miracle gro on them once a week, did everything "wrong" according to the Internet, and they produced all season until frost. I swear, sometimes ignorance is better.
@jaynebirkholz1596
@jaynebirkholz1596 Жыл бұрын
Isn't it wonderful we all have choices? For anyone to say that determinant or indeterminate is the only way to go is just plain being uninformed. Great video to educate.
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
I haven’t met anyone that mastered how to grow determinate tomatoes and quit growing them! Once you get it, they’re tough to exclude.
@jaynebirkholz1596
@jaynebirkholz1596 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMillennialGardener I think the fact that you grow both types and seemingly know the pros and cons of both lends A LOT of credibility to your video. I will be trying one of the favorite varieties you mentioned in my Wisconsin garden next year. Thanks again!
@Mrs.LadeyBug
@Mrs.LadeyBug Жыл бұрын
Very diplomatic. 😊
@amyk6028
@amyk6028 Жыл бұрын
AGREE 💯 my friend! I have grown Rutgers, Celebrity, Bush Early Girl and Ace 55 for the past 3 years and they ALWAYS outperform my indeterminates 👍🏼 And, my determinate tomato plants consistently produce for MONTHS. All I have to do is keep the fertilizer going and they will keep producing until disease takes them. I love the way you keep it REAL about the struggles with gardening. I live in Hot, Humid Georgia and frankly it’s a pain in the ass to grow tomatoes.
@andielliott7721
@andielliott7721 Жыл бұрын
Had no idea....
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
It’s about the same, here. Really hard to grow tomatoes past Memorial Day. Determinates have changed my life by making the impossible possible. I have no idea how they’ve developed such a negative reputation. They should be the FOUNDATION of our tomato garden, and the indeterminates should be considered the fun play things for kicks and excitement.
@amyk6028
@amyk6028 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMillennialGardener So true! My Cherry and Determinate tomatoes are most of what I grow, then about 4 Indeterminates. And every year I cuss them and pull them out by mid-July. Growing in heat & humidity is a whole different ball game. It’s a constant battle
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
@@amyk6028 I've found the same thing. The cherry and roma-type indeterminates will still grow. However, the determinate roma types are just as good. It's really only the cherry indeterminates that are worth the trouble. Honestly, if I were growing strictly for production, I wouldn't grow another indeterminate tomato, but I grow them out of love for the variety. Determinates are just so much more productive and lower maintenance!
@stevenharris6866
@stevenharris6866 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMillennialGardener The Tommie Toe Indeterminate is one that I've grown here in North Central Florida for 4 years now. It's a vigorous and giving plant. Basically my only one still fruiting right now! I haven't grown determinates due to the "myths" so thanks and I'll start adding them as we have a second summer here starting real soon and rainy season will end in Sept plus weather beginning to get cooler as we head to winter. Thanls for the awesome content!
@Wendy420T
@Wendy420T Жыл бұрын
You didn't convince everyone, but you convinced me. I have a whole new tomato plan for next year.
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear it! I recommend growing both types of tomatoes. The determinate tomatoes make fantastic foundational workhorses for solid protection. They're the "food tomatoes." Indeterminate tomatoes, to me, are "fun tomatoes" and go well in salads since they have more 'interesting' varieties.
@ammorales1524
@ammorales1524 Жыл бұрын
I tried determinate one year. They were very prolific. You convinced me to raise determinates next year!
@SpiceyKy
@SpiceyKy Жыл бұрын
YOU are literally the reason I'm hooked on growing determinates. I succession plant them constantly.
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
That’s excellent. There are two types of people: those that love determinate tomatoes, and those that haven’t grown them yet 😂 After many years of wrestling vines, it is nice to have something easy to manage.
@jmaalona
@jmaalona Жыл бұрын
I’m going to try this strategy next time.
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
@@jmaalona you won't regret it! Just make sure you DO NOT prune them. The only foliage that can be removed from determinates are the lowest leaf nodes underneath the first sucker. Anything above that can't stay. Determinates thrive on neglect. Stake them up with Florida weave or a short, strong stake and they'll flourish.
@SpiceyKy
@SpiceyKy Жыл бұрын
@@area51z63 My indeterminates have been through h3ll this season. Thrips and extremely high UV Index levels. Only my determinates are thriving. And we eat them to fast to freeze any because we now live in an apartment. Can't grow too many at a time. 😔
@mimiashford5544
@mimiashford5544 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMillennialGardener I never even knew there was a difference... I just plant tomatoes, either seed or plant. Nice to finally know that there IS a difference and now know what to look for.
@gailalli8086
@gailalli8086 Жыл бұрын
InDeterminate grower here! It’s what I’ve always grown! Roma to be specific. I love how fast they grow, I love how they taste even in a sandwich and so much more, and for me I get great harvests! I grew just two plants in a raised bed this year, planted them end of April. They are still producing! I’ve had the most beautiful fruit this year despite this horrible heat, humidity and drought! Every time I try growing indeterminate, including this year, I’m disappointed. Low yields, problems with pests or disease, And way more upkeep than my faithful Romas! So I am so glad you are making this video!!!
@lorr.jones8887
@lorr.jones8887 Жыл бұрын
What variety of Roma's are they? I didn't know there were determinate ones. I've only found indeterminate ones.
@00Recoil
@00Recoil Жыл бұрын
@@lorr.jones8887 Most Romas are determinate. I think Gail was a little cryptic with the first word of her post.
@KT-yq7ed
@KT-yq7ed Жыл бұрын
Darling you are a Cutie-pie!!!!!😂👵🏻. Love that you live in my State bc I can count on when to plant something since our climate is the same…..this old lady planted green beans, limas, bell peppers, oh and in containers…Oriental Eggplant….it’s a lot of work for me but I do what I can….my green beans developed a bacterial something and I can’t find where I put my Neem Oil” 🤷🏻‍♀️….🤣 I direct sowed Tomato Seeds (Romas and Red Delicious) and put too many in the container!!!!! Will never do that again……I tried….Love all your informative videos…..keep up the good work….Gram
@helenvannest7397
@helenvannest7397 Жыл бұрын
Tried determinate this year and never going back- delicious 😋-productive - space saving -and no pruning Best thing I ever did in the garden! I only tried this because of your earlier video, thanks you soooo much for the helpful info 🍅🍅🍅🍅
@bluewolf4915
@bluewolf4915 Жыл бұрын
I think the myth of "all at once" comes from farmers who HAVE to harvest all at once with machines. Not all of their tomatoes ripen all at once either they only keep the ripe ones and spread the green ones back onto the field to compost. Thanks for suggesting Siletz earlier in the year. Just picked the first ripe one and it was very good. 👍🏻
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed Siletz! It's a very special tomato.
@babystepsgarden6162
@babystepsgarden6162 Жыл бұрын
Wow! I am def. going to try growing determinant tomatoes! Thank you! This year (my first garden) I found that I can grow a garden and get produce from it. Lots of mistakes along the way, and it still grew. I honestly didn't think it would. But I tried. I hoped. I prayed. It grew. 😊 ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ There is So much to learn about gardening, and it's so much fun. Hard work at first, but def. A lot of fun. Thank you for sharing your love of gardening, and teaching us how to garden.
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
Great job starting a garden! That's excellent. I've been in the garden since diapers, and I still make mistakes all the time. When I moved from the Northeast to the South, I had to learn all over again! Just remember, there are no such thing as failures, only learning experiences. You only fail if you give up and quit. Every year, things go wrong. Learn from them, and try another angle next year. Every year, they'll get better and better. Start slow, and every year, add a few more things. Don't forget to try a fruit tree or two. They grow themselves and produce for a lifetime!
@suehill6194
@suehill6194 Жыл бұрын
that hard work never goes away..just gets (hopefully) more efficient. plus hard work feels good. Great job on your first garden and happy gardening!
@bigrich6750
@bigrich6750 Жыл бұрын
Celebrity was one of the first tomatoes I ever grew. It had just come out as an AAS winner and I read about it in the old Organic Gardening magazine and ordered some seeds. It performed fantastically.
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
I worked on a farm from Age 11-17 back in the late 90's/early 2000's. All the farmer grew was Celebrity. No other varieties. They were split-proof, produced like crazy, every one was picture-perfect. People would drive from Pennsylvania to our farm in NJ to buy them.
@bruc33ef
@bruc33ef Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate how you stack your vids like your garden -- no wasted time or space. High yield vids!
@ivanpare3836
@ivanpare3836 Жыл бұрын
Amen. Your deterinate posts have confermed my lived xperience. I am 64 yrs. Old and have just recently been converted to this message. Hoping your info will help up and comming gardeners alongthelearning curve sooner. GOOD JOB
@jeffbradford1999
@jeffbradford1999 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for debunking these myths. Of the tomatoes I have grown from seed the determinate plants have done best. The heat this year has been brutal on all crops but especially my tomatoes. I learn alot from you,thanks.
@S.Kay.Steffy
@S.Kay.Steffy Жыл бұрын
Wow, another great video. You are such a wealth of information😊👍. This is the first year I have had a garden and I ended up getting both kinds of tomatoes. I must say, the determinants are much easier for his senior citizen to handle. Honestly, when I bought the starts (not brave enough to try seeds yet) I didn’t understand the difference between the two…but I’ve learned so much from your videos that have helped along the way. Thank you!
@christophershaw4608
@christophershaw4608 3 ай бұрын
Great advice. It validated my experience with tomatoes. You rock. I appreciate how informative you are my dude! Thank you! From TX
@kittiew260
@kittiew260 Жыл бұрын
Awesome update & I agree 100%. I tried siletz this year because you suggested it & thank you. Enjoying them. Good boy Dale. Hope he got an extra treat for finding the critters. 😉
@bettydillingham1498
@bettydillingham1498 Жыл бұрын
Well, now I’m really intrigued. I’m not much of a tomato gardener but decided to try three varieties of determinant tomatoes for the first time this year. Since I didn’t get them started until mid-June, I’m still waiting for the results. I decided to try determinant varieties for the first time in the hopes that the smaller plant size would help make me more successful. Your video has made me look forward to trying the actual tomatoes. Thanks for your info. I’ve subscribed and will go back and watch other videos. I’ve got a lot to learn.
@schnder1
@schnder1 5 ай бұрын
I am enjoying all of your videos. "It pays to have a Dale" just made me smile. I have an Ollie, (a rescue from a reservation) and we feel the same. Our Ollie is our cherished king of his castle. Thank you for all of your great videos!
@CurtisBrandt
@CurtisBrandt Жыл бұрын
Appreciate these words. Tried a few determinate tomatoes last year and found what you say to be true! Will be growing many more this year!
@anthonyloguirato8006
@anthonyloguirato8006 Жыл бұрын
You are spot on. I am from southeastern Pennsylvania in Bucks County and this year the heat has really done a job on my tomatoes but the only ones standing now are the determinant tomatoes which are thriving still. I think I’m going to start growing a lot more determinate and cut down on the indeterminate because I have much more success with the determinate tomatoes. Thanks again for a terrific video!
@shorty8256
@shorty8256 Жыл бұрын
Love the video...I too grow both determinate and indeterminate tomato plants and my determinate tomato plants outperform my indeterminate tomato plants funny thing both in my garden beds and amazing in 25 gallon buckets...so really appreciate your videos and I am willing to try some of your tomato variety recommendations! All the best to you and Dale!
@gregryeii403
@gregryeii403 3 ай бұрын
I agree a person should grow both. Look at your climate and your growing season. If you plan carefully you can have a very long harvest season
@jimoyler1780
@jimoyler1780 Жыл бұрын
I have been growing determinate tomatoes and other crops this year. I also have found that hybrid versions are much more rewarding too. I enjoy the videos.
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
Thank you! You may also be interested in looking at Dwarf Tomato Project varieties. They are not particularly disease resistant, but they're fun to mess with early in the season. The fruits are fantastic.
@kb1236
@kb1236 Жыл бұрын
I agree as well! I grew both determinates and indeterminates this year and they have been just as productive and still going. The determinates were a little smaller plants but other than that they produce just as long as the indeterminates in Georgia . Red Snapper has big beautiful beefsteak size tomatoes and the plants are still going.
@zachshott7833
@zachshott7833 Жыл бұрын
My indeterminate varieties did great this year, but the determinate variety not so much. I believe the mistake I made, other than getting a bit of a late start, was buying plants that had fruit on them already.
@ctraugh2005
@ctraugh2005 Жыл бұрын
I have both, and I was planning next year to go all determinant. I love the fact that they stay smaller than my indeterminant and they are so much less work. I agree with every point you made. Thank you for the video.
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
I still grow mostly indeterminate, but that's because I'm a hobbyist/enthusiast. If I were growing strictly for production and food storage, I'd grow all determinates and not waste my time with indeterminates other than cherry types. Determinates just produce so much more food per square foot!
@DyesubDave
@DyesubDave Жыл бұрын
So true. I have both determinate and indeterminate tomatoes and some are doing FANTASTIC this year while others are not. It's all about trial and error to see which varieties of each grow best in your climate and soil type. And of course ones that taste good to you. Thanks for the informative video.
@ivettesantana4319
@ivettesantana4319 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you 500%! I am a gardener that observes the plants behavior rather than listen to every gardener and all you are talking about is what I learned.
@tesswagner895
@tesswagner895 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this !!! I just love how you go into such detail on such a simple level! Excellent to share with beginners🌻🌻🌻💞🌻🌻🌻
@soniamarshall9293
@soniamarshall9293 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the pro and cons to both types. Good helpful video.
@SusanHilesArt
@SusanHilesArt Жыл бұрын
I live in Jersey and just pulled out my indeterminate plants and planted Tiny Tim determinate seeds. I plant only in containers and it's my first year gardening, so everything is an experiment for me. I hope I have more success with the Tiny Tim determinates than I had with the beefsteak indeterminates. Thanks for another very informative video!
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
You're welcome! I recommend looking into Celebrity and Bella Rosa if you want the "easiest to grow" beefsteaks. They are tough plants.
@lynnlovessoil
@lynnlovessoil 4 ай бұрын
I have been binge watching your tomato videos. Excited for the spring.
@SarahBahou
@SarahBahou Ай бұрын
First time gardener this year and I bought several indeterminate and 1 Roma determinate and so far the Roma has been the easiest! So good to know foe next year!
@jnviljoen5679
@jnviljoen5679 Жыл бұрын
I rate your channel as one of the best! Thank you for all the time and effort you put into making these videos and the invaluable research you share. Take care
@xdraconicgaming5204
@xdraconicgaming5204 17 күн бұрын
Amazing information for your area!! You do a great service by making these videos. I’m in Newfoundland and indeterminate tomatoes are much more productive where I live. Our summers hit 30 degrees Celsius fairly consistently and we have a humidity that hovers around 75%. My tomatoes last from May to late September with disease starting to happen in late September. Determinate tomatoes don’t nearly yield as much here (maybe about 1/3). This video is giving me some great knowledge even though it doesn’t apply to us. But I imagine this is incredibly helpful to everyone in your zone.
@AlvinMcManus
@AlvinMcManus Жыл бұрын
I am adding in determinates at this point in the season shooting for mid-Sept ripening. I added this video to my Tomato Playlist. You didn't have to sell me, but you did a good job of sell the point.
@rachellemazar7374
@rachellemazar7374 Жыл бұрын
Hi from the SanFrancisco east Bay Area. I have a couple of 8x4 ft raised beds that are fully enclosed so I have been trying dwarf tomatoes with only moderate success. This year I planted Siltez, Stupice, Patio, and Super Bush. I am happy to hear your endorsement of Siltez. I learned a lot from your video and I’m glad I have pruned my plants yet.
@eviemarino3562
@eviemarino3562 Жыл бұрын
Love all the information you provide in your videos! Will definitely try determinant tomatoes next year. Also interested in the Dwarf tomato project. Could you recommend a meaty variety for dehydrating for tomato powder. Learning so much from your shared knowledge. Thank you! Hi to Dale, such a good boy❤️
@tmcdatty
@tmcdatty Жыл бұрын
It’s been the reverse for us this year, low production on the determinates but huge continuing harvests for the indeterminates. Slowing a bit now but plants are still going strong! I have been spraying weekly with a diluted baking soda solution and disease has been kept under control. One interesting variety we are growing is “Candyland” which is a currant type, hundreds of very small sweet fruits. Give this a try. On your suggestion I have started some tomatoes for (hopefully) a late fall harvest. Wish us luck!
@katrinagarland5219
@katrinagarland5219 Жыл бұрын
Excellent information... just what I was looking for as I am starting my garden this season. Thanks!
@BramptonGardener
@BramptonGardener Жыл бұрын
This is my first year with determinate. I'm growing several dwarf varias well. This was great, I had heard those myths as well, and wasn't interested in determinate because of that. I'm in Southern Ontario and the dwarfs have worked great, I can start them indfs in January and they're manageable until April when they grow in the greenhouse. I'm growing marglobe for the first time this year, I've only gotten so far, but it was tasty. Thanks for the info.
@sherreeroper7656
@sherreeroper7656 Жыл бұрын
I've learned so much from you. Like that you can't leave a cucumber to turn yellow. As for tomatoes, I keep hearing that they're full of lectins? Only the peel and seeds... I thought determinate meant it doesn't get leggie and indeterminate grow and grow all over the place. Anyway it's a crap shoot here, I feed my chickens tomatoes and I have tomatoes growing everywhere. 😌 I have so many roots,to see something growing in the ground..I sometimes top off my indeterminate, pick the suckers( if I see them) it's hard to find determinate tomatoes I look at the tag. But I didn't know to not prune them.. a BIG Thankyou to you!
@veatplants6721
@veatplants6721 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, for the excellent points made. It will help a lot next growing season. Thanks also for sharing some of your favorite determinates.
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
You're welcome! I'm glad I can help point you in the right direction!
@Gardenfnp
@Gardenfnp Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for going over the differences. I never knew the difference so was not sure how to care for both.
@cublau
@cublau Жыл бұрын
Great! I didn’t even know about these two types of tomatoes. Now I know what to plant. Thanks a lot!
@tinab7791
@tinab7791 Жыл бұрын
Without knowing anything about gardening I inadvertently grew determinate varieties for years. This year I decided to get serious about it and took all the internet advice to get indeterminate varieties, and what a freaking nightmare lol. It doesn't help that we've had a completely atypical year weather wise but I still just like the ease of growing determinates. I'm definitely going back to the determinates!
@brichter4669
@brichter4669 Жыл бұрын
I grew up in NW PA and my grandparents grew a huge garden every year, which I helped to plant and harvest. I moved to south TX a very long time ago but haven't grown a garden. Last fall, I decided to grow a container garden in my small backyard using vertical planters. Planted mid-Oct expecting to grow a fairly decent garden. It was a bust. This past spring I added grow bags and planted mid-April. Seeds germinated well and everything was growing. Then the 100°+ temps started early May, and my garden just didn't do well with the heat. I learned the hot TX sun can scorch the leaves quickly. I am definitely going to use 50% shade cloth next summer. I found good planting schedules for my area and am going to use them to plan next year's container garden. Hopefully, I will be more successful. I always enjoy watching your channel and have learned many beneficial gardening tips. Thanks for sharing with us.
@Hankyjane
@Hankyjane Жыл бұрын
In north AL, we planted our tomatoes on the east side of the house--- right up against the wall. It was shaded after 2pm and we had a very very good harvest and healthy plants. That was in 2007
@archstanton9703
@archstanton9703 Жыл бұрын
I live in AZ and it’s very difficult to grow tomatoes here because they don’t set fruit in the heat. I’m using 40% shade cloth, but next year I’ll install drip irrigation, and hopefully, it’ll help.
@johncollins3910
@johncollins3910 17 күн бұрын
This is exactly what im looking for. I grow tomatoes in pots on the deck. I think I have a new plan next year. Get a determine plant and once it gets big enough clone a sucker or 2 every few weeks in spring. Thank you for this.
@brianmodlin1537
@brianmodlin1537 Жыл бұрын
I live in Winston-Salem, NC. Last year I grew some tiny treats tomatoes and I had a great harvest. I also grew some beefsteak tomatoes the last two years, I did not have a great harvest. The tiny treats was not much work and they were great for my environment. I glad I watched this video. This year I will be growing determined tomatoes this year.
@MichaelRei99
@MichaelRei99 Жыл бұрын
You make a very convincing argument for having determinate tomatoes. I’m convinced!!
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
I recommend giving them a shot, but with the understanding that they must be treated very differently than indeterminates. They must be staked and not pruned. Never remove suckers, or you won't get a good harvest. Determinates thrive on neglect. You'll still want to do some due diligence with fungicides and pesticides if you have that issue in your climate, but the less you touch the plants, the better in general.
@renedean4232
@renedean4232 Жыл бұрын
👍, I didn't know my 2 determinate tomatoes were so, & I pruned😢 but, amazingly, still have a few product coming😊 thanks, love them!
@tomgreenwood4769
@tomgreenwood4769 Жыл бұрын
I live in Salem Oregon now for eight years and was raised in San Diego, in Cali you can grow tomatoes because of the weather, but here it’s a little more challenging I have grown indeterminate Tom’s and labored endlessly cutting them back and vining them and not getting much harvest! This year I’m growing way more determinate tomatoes! Thanks so much for your advice. You can’t buy a good tomato here during the season not like in Cali So I’m looking forward to changing with your experience thanks again! Tommy G.
@VermiCast_Garden
@VermiCast_Garden Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more with this video. A smart take on reality when it comes to growing tomatoes. Thanks for sharing.
@stanclayton221
@stanclayton221 Жыл бұрын
For the past 3+ decades I lived and grew indeterminate tomatoes in northern California a few miles outside Napa in near-perfect conditions. I'd start seeds in our sunroom in January, transplant in March, shade in June, and harvest beautiful tomatoes until November's or December's frosts. It was like a textbook case for indeterminates. Then I retired to the Piedmont of North Carolina and tried the same varieties. Oops, big mistake...HUGE! Now I'm looking for some Celebrity starts so I'm not hopelessly behind, and succession plant them. Thanks and keep up the good work!
@sandramorton5510
@sandramorton5510 Жыл бұрын
I agree, I had determinate tomatoes planted in September, highly productive through two freezes, removed them in March to replaced with new ones. I love determinate.
@lidip8700
@lidip8700 11 ай бұрын
Last year (2022) my Determinate Romas were going strong all summer, with less disease. As the nights were getting down to the 40s and everything from our summer sowing had died, Romas were still producing fruit. I pulled all the large green ones before pulling the plant (so I could seed my fall garden). The green Romas were still nice, firm & red sitting on my kitchen counter. We ate the last one in January!! I always grow Rutgers, Romas & Celebrities. Thanks for another great video!
@nickbristol3457
@nickbristol3457 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Growing some determinate tomatoes this year!!
@jaylewis8789
@jaylewis8789 Жыл бұрын
I kept indeterminate over the winter here in Charleston, SC in a small green house I built but I have to listen to a tomato grower from Jersey. I'm going to try some 👍deternimate right now. I have just enough time.
@51rwyatt
@51rwyatt Жыл бұрын
Very informative. Will definitely do a few determinate varieties next season.
@dinacasey7034
@dinacasey7034 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the great information!! DCasey from Missouri
@nickzivs
@nickzivs Жыл бұрын
100% agree. For the first 3 years of my gardening career, I've gone for indeterminate only growing one determinate (Carolina Gold) which had blossom end rot issues (potted plant) each time I grew that variety and it turned me off vs indeterminate. However, last year I grew a Mountain Merit hybrid that was super productive, allowed me to succession plant up here in Southern Ontario, and was resistant to the "early" late blight that hit and eventual took out my indeterminate by late August. The yield was better, the plant was far more compact, and the taste was sensational. Obviously, I still like growing indeterminate predominantly for the funky varieties/specific cherry tomatoes that do exceptionally well, but your video definitely persuaded me to grow more of a 50/50 split of indeterminate and determinate and thus far when we've been dealing with 100% humidity nights in the 60s and upwards of 110F sticky spells, the determinate varieties are far more stable and productive. Thanks for the advice on the topic and for all the videos you put out, it's a wealth of knowledge.
@joanies6778
@joanies6778 Жыл бұрын
Great info. I always planted indeterminate San Marzano just because I loved the flavor and they're great for sauces. Then I couldn't find seeds, so I opted for a determinate Roma. Later, I found the seeds and now will grow both.
@rolande6342
@rolande6342 Жыл бұрын
Glad to learn this for my next gardening season. Thank you !!
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@sandieweatherup
@sandieweatherup Жыл бұрын
I only grow determinant tomatoes due to space limitations. Thanks for the list of varieties you like. I'm growing Celebriry here in Georgia, but I'll try some of the others next year.
@BrainsOfMush09
@BrainsOfMush09 6 ай бұрын
I grew 8 determinate roma plants in 2023 and had nearly 85 lbs of romas.
@cynthiamartinez5884
@cynthiamartinez5884 Жыл бұрын
You've convinced me to grow more determinate tomatoes! Out of a dozen plants I grew this year, the only ones still alive are two determinates.
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
I'm happy the video could be helpful! Determinate tomatoes are amazing. They're workhorses!
@alancarter4270
@alancarter4270 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video brother. I will grow more determinates this season. I can argue with your data because you present honest truth IMHO. I only grew early girls in memory of my ex-wife grandfather , who massive plants.
@mirandam8021
@mirandam8021 Жыл бұрын
Dale is a good boy! My brindle mix boy Leo checks the perimeter of my yard too. Loves to chase away the rabbits! Thanks for the info on the determinate type of tomato. I looked through my seeds and I only have 2 varieties. Will be growing them next year!
@rosedowling3690
@rosedowling3690 Жыл бұрын
Not only do I Love your videos but now Love you even more bc you're from Jersey but now living in TN LOL Planned on planting determinate bc its my first season ... Hoping Roma n San Marzano are determinate .. Looking into that
@lorihardman1833
@lorihardman1833 Жыл бұрын
I will be trying determinate tomatoes next spring! Thank you for this video, very informative!
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
You're welcome! I think you'll enjoy them. They're much easier and more fruitful.
@SecondComingTwice
@SecondComingTwice Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the input. I'm growing a crop of plumb tomatoes for the first time and they are much heavier with fruit than all but one of my indeterminate breeds. Too much heat this summer for some of my favorite slicing tomatoes, and some blight(?) but I'm more than happy with the new plot growing in last year's wood chips without a raised-bed. Squash too, although the volunteer pumpkin hybrids I could have done without.
@mikeedge2119
@mikeedge2119 3 ай бұрын
This year 2024 I went determinate all the way they seem to be easier to grow here in Georgia thanks for this video it made a lot of sense
@darnelldunaway9244
@darnelldunaway9244 Жыл бұрын
You are a wealth of knowledge. Learned a lot. Thanks.
@sylvia10101
@sylvia10101 Жыл бұрын
You have so much knowledge MG. Thank you for sharing! It is helpful! 😊👍
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
You're welcome! I appreciate you watching as always.
@Khalinjai
@Khalinjai Жыл бұрын
Dwarf determinates are amazing, you can plant 3 together and get a really nice bush full of tomatoes and it grows to a maximum hight of 50 cm, outside of some small support they dont require any work.
@emilybarner3440
@emilybarner3440 7 ай бұрын
I enjoy your evidence-based presentation of information, and also Adventures With Dale. 🙏
@preppernut
@preppernut Жыл бұрын
I used to live in a very short season area (zone 2b), and determinate tomatoes were the only ones that managed to ripen in the greenhouse. They were Santiam and Siletz. Decent size and good taste. I've added a cherry tomato called '42 Days', which does well in containers, it is also determinate and extremely early. I have just found your videos and will definitely share them.
@raymondpinner8328
@raymondpinner8328 Жыл бұрын
I am growing a bunch of determinants this year for the first time. So far so good.
@roserainy7586
@roserainy7586 11 ай бұрын
Very helpful, I learned a lot from this. Will need to try some determinates next year. I'm in OK and just having a heck of a time with all the issues you mentioned here, that midsummer heat is no joke, especially this year 😅
@Vora_Vixen
@Vora_Vixen Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! I will stop avoiding them and try them out sometime! :)
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
Excellent! They're really helpful.
@rnorth9286
@rnorth9286 Жыл бұрын
Great info. Facts over myths for the win! Zone 7b this year my indeterminate tomato yields have been outstanding.🍅 Apparently there's plenty of time left in the season to experiment with determinate varieties now that daytime temps are falling down to the 80s. I'll get started right away. First frost is not expected until mid November. 🤗
@pixellightmedia
@pixellightmedia Жыл бұрын
I grow both, love having the variety! Great vid!!
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
That's the way to do it! Thanks for watching!
@teenagardner3623
@teenagardner3623 Жыл бұрын
Good job Dale😊 My 2 boys (dogs) do same every morning- come with Mom and check the vegetables and perimeter check. This video came at great time with a wealth of information as I'm planning this spring garden. Thank you again for all your insight and clear to point video
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
Are you located in Australia? I'm curious, since you mentioned planning for spring! Thank you for watching!
@teenagardner3623
@teenagardner3623 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMillennialGardener sorry to disappoint you but I'm just me @ Coastal SC. I've learned so much from you that I've been planning my 2nd year now Spring Garden based on your channel
@teenagardner3623
@teenagardner3623 Жыл бұрын
I'm 51 and just discovered YT during c19. My first experience was with "Self Sufficient Me" in Australia..
@charlie5204
@charlie5204 Жыл бұрын
This year I tried few determined tomatoes and most of them are very productive, where I have indetermined tomates with less than they have. So I will check their taste and in case I like it they will find a place in my garden next year.
@johnrody1645
@johnrody1645 7 ай бұрын
Nice work. I’m from Philadelphia trying to get used to Vero Beach growing. Gonna try the determinate.
@janking2762
@janking2762 Жыл бұрын
You are in a tough summer location so you are in a really good position to find out what works no matter what. I’m moving to determinates for preserving and indeterminates for fresh. I plan to try out your recommendations for determinates next year and see how they match the Blacks for taste. Best wishes from Delaware, 500 ft. from SE PA.
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
After living my entire life in NJ and PA, I thought I knew how to grow tomatoes. Not so! Moving here was a wake-up call. Even my father, who moved down to Calabash, had to start all over again after 4 decades of growing tomatoes. It's amazing how you take it for granted growing up and living in NJ. It's very hard growing anything here, because our summers are too hot and winters are too cold. I've learned to work both with and against nature. If you can grow here, you can grow in a lot of places.
@donaldp9259
@donaldp9259 Жыл бұрын
You convinced me. I'll try determinates this upcoming season for the first time.
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
They're much easier to manage and grow. Just remember that determinate varieties should *not* be pruned. Stake them when young and let them grow.
@khandonkey349
@khandonkey349 Жыл бұрын
Love the video, makes alot more of what goes on in my tomatoes patch with the 2 types. I can see how to use determinant plants to save time energy and space. 2 extra points.. sometimes I enjoy training plants and 2... your determinants may be surviving longer because they are covered your indeterminates are not.. other than that one note awesome info!!
@williammoody2781
@williammoody2781 Жыл бұрын
I grew Bella Rosa determinate tomatoes this year and they produced abundantly I was very pleased with the flavor and crack resistance.
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
They're definitely amazing tomatoes. Are they as good as Brandywine Sudduth? Of course now, but you'll get 3 times the tomatoes on that little 36 inch tall bush than you'll get on a 7' Brandywine vine and they'll all be perfect and never crack. I'll say they're 80% as good as a Brandywine and on par with Big Beef without the trouble.
@DawnaRo
@DawnaRo Жыл бұрын
This year I am only growing determinant and dwarf tomatoes. I NEVER was able to keep up with prunning and staking and now that I'm losing my sight it's almost impossible. I grew one determinant and 6 dwarfs last year and I'm hooked! No more "jungle" tomatoes that I can't tame and keep where they are supposed to be! I'm glad I.saw your video from last fall showing how good the determinants did. That along with seeing how good my one plant was doing convinced me.
@ljgerken
@ljgerken Жыл бұрын
You're on a roll! Love it! Truth be told! I am in Central Florida and I am harvesting sun golds right now and they are pushing seven feet, and just getting started. Who wants to get on a ladder to pick that high anyway? So, if I pinch the top of these plants, will they grow more fruit sets lower down on the horizontal branches?
@SilkiesPb
@SilkiesPb Жыл бұрын
I’ve always hated growing bigger indeterminate tomatoes cause they die so fast. Will be trying determinate next year.
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
I think you'll enjoy them. They're a lot less work for the food.
@candacebradley7335
@candacebradley7335 Жыл бұрын
I live in Central Ohio and have always grown indeterminate tomatoes and they’ve always grew up until frost.
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
Think of the length of your growing season relative to the tomato's age. You likely don't plant your tomato transplants until May 30, and you get frost around, maybe, October 10? That would make your tomato growing season 133 days long. Your plants simply die before they can develop problems. 133 days after I transplant tomatoes is July 31. My tomatoes are as old as yours are at the end of your season in the middle of the year, and I get more 90 degree days in a summer than Ohio gets in a decade 😁The point I'm trying to make is that in order to see the limitations of the tomato plant, you need to live in a location where the growing season is long and hard enough to beat the plant up. When you live in a location like that, you can see how weak indeterminate plants are relative to determinates. If you grow determinates, even in your climate, you'll get more food.
@beverlyboyce1041
@beverlyboyce1041 Жыл бұрын
I ordered a bunch more of the Dwarf tomato project varieties earlier this season. Bella Rosa was definitely a winner for me last year. I forgot to sow any this year. Red Snapper was very similar to Bella Rosa.
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
Everything Hoss recommends is tough. Their climate is just like mine, so if it grows for them, I know I can handle it 😀
@Waterlily480
@Waterlily480 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! I am tired of chasing the tips and trying to keep indeterminates balanced in my deck pots! No more tomato jungle! I was well pleased with the determinate I had last year. This year only a few plus a few cherries. More varieties of veg and flowers instead.
@annieok654
@annieok654 Жыл бұрын
Great video!!!! I've got both, and you are right...
@nz5752
@nz5752 Жыл бұрын
"THANK YOU!" I L💚VE All you Videos & All the Information you Share with Us!!! 🙏 Sending Dale a BIG HUG 🤗 Always Look Forward to seeing what he's up to!
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