Finally broken down and bought a DAP a couple years ago. It single-handedly changed my entire perspective and approach as a audiophile. Nothing else has had a great impact on my journey

The Walkman predates the ipod and was significantly more revolutionary

It would be great if they made a new one with high end components and replaceable rechargeable batteries instead of planned obsolescence

Well, I listen to flac audio on my phone and it sounds good enough.

I have both a Sony mp3 b183f player and a zx707 dap. I use zx707 when I spare my time to really enjoy music, sitting on the couch or bed, and not doing anything other than listening to the music. But I use my b183f when I go to the gym or do editor work. just clip it on my shirt, and vibe with beats, because I don't need full-quality music when I doing all these activities, just do not pay attention to the music, but need beats for my working purposes. In this case, using the dap kind of distracts me because I do actually need to take care the big dap player while working, but mp3 just sticks with me wherever I go.

Greetings. Good video 👍 I like using a DAP as a compliment to my music enjoyment. I have over many many years refined my external sound system but what I love about a good DAP is the intimacy of listening solo of high signal quality and crystal clear clarity of my music.

iPods won’t die they made a comeback I just bought 2 iPod 5.5 classics. No MP3’s by the way for me CD quality 16bit 44.1K also no distractions by a phone. The iPod 5.5 sounds better than my 12 MAX PRO.

I agree with you. I used my Walkman as my DAP - my goto is NW-A106 or NW-A45 (with 256 microsd). sometimes I use an amp to enhance the experience.

Agreed on so many levels. However I have a few great players that were less than $100. It's all in the specs. Not to mention the technology is improving daily. Keep on preaching the gospel I can't do it all myself. Sam, Glenolden, Pa

Thank you, that's the first explanation/argument 'for getting' a DAP that explains everything I need to convince me Why I should get a DAP.

Came across this video recently. I have looked at DAPs and understand the reasoning why you might want a DAP, but my alternative was to use an older Motorola phone with a micro SD slot pairing that with a Moon Drop Dawn DAC dongle, and Moon Drop Aria IEMs with the USB Audio Player Pro Android app as the front end. I feel that's a more cost effective solution for me and the sound is high quality enough for me.

What's a good DAP and IEM combo to get started on a hi-res journey? Let's say my budget is... maybe around $1,000-$1,200 for the two. Any good recommendations?

Budget and form factor/ergonomics are the 2 major points forgotten into this video. Peoples going at the gym or outdoor jogging don't want to carry the tanks that are high end DAP, specially the ones mentioned here. You could have them broken or stolen if not careful in such situations. Hi resolution output is a big deal for music lovers like myself but there is situations where those DAP aren't suited as you had to carry both the phones and the DAPs on the go. That's where the forgotten cowons like the J3 and D2 came to the rescue , they had sweetspot specs and form factor for everyday carry and they were still expensive relatively speaking, specially if you spend on good iem/headphones. Aspects of the user experience are too often overlooked when you look at Hi End gear (I'm not talking about wireless bc that bring a lot of issues too).

My iPod touch been acting up for a while. I was mad when I found out Apple stopped producing them. Decided to look up if there were any new MP3 players out and I was surprised (pleasantly) as hell. Just ordered a Sony zx-507 to dive into the audiophile world. Wanted to get something newer but they’re all so big. I bought the Asia version b/c that was the only brand new one I could find…hope I didn’t make a mistake!

Am loving my Astell & Kern Sp2000t. However eventually might consider also getting a Kann Max for more power hungry headphones. 😀

I was on the lookout for a DAP from FiiO only to find that they stopped manufacturing entry level models. Now, the available DAPs started at the 500€ mark. That sucked

Can you play the dap through a home stereo receiver? (either via bluetooth and / or hard wired in? Never owned a dap. I just use my phone.

Newcomer here with a question. Is it advisable to pair a DAP with a DAC such as the Mojo 2 for an enhanced audio experience? I've been enjoying the Mojo 2 in tandem with my iPhone for a while now, and I'm impressed with its sound quality. However, I haven't come across a DAP that matches its sound signature. Can someone provide some insights on this?

I'm curious what the companies have new coming in the next 6 months. I would like to buy an endgame DAP at some point.

Can we get a video on the best way to listen to music in your car? like Aux vs apple carplay/android auto vs bluetooth?

Lol, I have Walkman WM1AM2 and Mojo2+Poly but I just bought an iPod Video and Walkman NW-HD5 for nostalgia experience 😂.

Damn prices seem pretty steep, I been looking into dedicated audio players like the old ipods but I wouldn't even spend $400 on a phone. Maybe I can Find a demo at a store or something just to see if it's something I'd spend that on

Well, old iPods can play lossless files natively with AAC and a Hacked one can play Flac files

I'm too dumb to be an audiophile because I have a very low I.Q. but in the last year or so have been introduced to this world, I'm 41 and have very bad OCD for all my life and have been wanting to get a better portable listening experience for my daily exercise walks and have purchased a couple of midrange DAPS and Dac/amps and headphones such as the Focal Celestee, Elegia, Clear, Sennheiser HD 660s, HD 599 and many others, but I'm never satisfied as when listening to music on my PC which has an SB Audigy sound card which sounds rich, dynamic and punchy and more detailed even with cheap wired neckband headphones compared to my higher end headphones which I use with my DAPS portably for my daily walks, this subject has frustrated me for last year or so because I'm not rich but want the best listening experience possible portably, should I just accept what I have and not spend anymore money, because it feels like I'm chasing something which I can never do which is taking my desktop PC outside portably because it's so big.

You said in another video that the iPod or MP3 player never really went away but grew up into a DAP... ugh...no it most certainly did not... it went away-what happened was phones became a do it all device and unfortunately not doing any one thing particularly well.. no the DAP is a high resolution music player that is realized due to no more storage or file size limitations. Streaming is another abomination I would rather not get into.

The problem is the price

I disagree with the premise of the video. Here's why? 1. Cost:: Mp3 players are cheap. Phones can play pretty much any format if you use the right audio player, therefore one can pretty much count this as zero cost since pretty much everybody carries a phone around with them. Then you have to consider the files the person is playing, as well as what they are using to listen to the music. If a person listens to all of their music on their phone with cheap bluetooth earbuds from spotify, I can't imagine they would see much if any benefit from a high end DAP. IMO, most would see far more benefit from upgrading their headphones over their music player. That's the best bang for buck upgrade imo. 2. Versatility. Phones can be used for more than just listening to music, so it makes way more sense to not have to bring another phone size (or larger device to listen to music). 3. expandability or headphone jack isn't really that much of a selling point imo. I know some phones lack them, but it's still more than possible to have a phone that has both a micro sd card slot and a headphone jack. The one I use isn't even that high end and it has both. The sound quality on it is fine imo. 4. Sound quality is very subjective. Most people cannot tell the difference between a lossless file like flac and a high bitrate music file. Many can't even tell the difference between 320k mp3 and lower bitrates either. Most who can tell between the high and lossless files often struggle to determine which is which in an abx double blind test. 5. If a person is not satisfied with the quality of their listening experience I think they will come to their own conclusion on what they would need to change to improve it. If you need to put out a video to convince somebody to not be satisfied, it makes me question why.

yeah, you don't have to spend $100 bucks to get a good mp3. when you listen to a record, an 8-track tape, tape, am/FM radio in the 80s recorded from its made mixtapes. MP3 is superior enough,. we enjoyed SD TV. so the huge file song can be overdoing it. this doesn't stop me from listening sitting and enjoying anything. ohh do you sell DAP? D, ,

We are We are still insisting on DAP. and make something new, like watch player, E-ink screen DAP, and portable DAP with an high quality speaker

Why don't apple make one. Could call it the apple dapple.

Dongles are very beneficial for people that don't want to buy DAPs and even as effective. So, that talk about dongles not being good is nonsense.

Apple is a shadow of its former self. No innovation.

I'm not going to figure out a way to get my thousands of mp3 songs into a format where each song has 500 MB! Where would you even buy that format? A 20-something-year-old might, when the moon is just right, hear a teeny tiny difference in quality between a 5 Mb mp3 and a 50 MB wav file, but it's silly to get hung up on this negligible difference.

No. Absolutely not! People are using smartphones to listen to music on the go. DAPs are not as convenient for active people. "Sit down and listen," you said? Then you need to use better equipment: better DACs, better amps and SPEAKERS.

Shouldn't call mp3 crap on and on again what sort of music lover are you!!

People still use MP3 players?? Is it the 2000s again?