4 RPGs that NEED to be Studied

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35Infinite

35Infinite

9 ай бұрын

These are a selection of RPGs that I feel need to be studied by devs or aspiring devs. I found them unique and different and would love to see more stuff like this. I appreciate you taking the time and watching. Thank you.
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@tylorhobbs8920
@tylorhobbs8920 8 ай бұрын
The fun thing about Live A Live is that it came out in the late SNES and early PSX era where Squaresoft was incredibly experimental. In addition to Live A Live, you had stuff like Treasure of the Rudras which had three parallel storylines that you could hop from one to another at any given moment, and had a spell system that was entirely freeform. By which I mean, you make a 'word' or amalgamation of letters. The game will give you a rough idea of what this word will do, and you can see what it will cost. But you need to cast it to see how good it actually is. In addition, as you explore, you can find books that will give you words with more guaranteed effects. And as you go along you can learn the rules, like how to change a core word in order to consistantly get a certain effect.
@BinaryDood
@BinaryDood 8 ай бұрын
I loved the gameplay of Rudra no Hihou
@lhfirex
@lhfirex 8 ай бұрын
On paper TOTR's magic system sounds cool, but in practice you're just filling out the same spell list across all 3 parties, and it becomes really bland. It's a good concept with bad execution, and it sacrificed things like a job system or at least character-specific abilities that could've made the characters feel like something besides sacks of HP/MP. Wild Arms did a better version of this in its first game.
@attackofthecopyrightbots
@attackofthecopyrightbots 6 ай бұрын
honestly too experimental. I love the bouncer and all the saga frontier games but they sold like crap in the states and even the remasters didnt get much popularity
@tylorhobbs8920
@tylorhobbs8920 6 ай бұрын
@@attackofthecopyrightbots Yeah. Going overboard on the experimental stuff really killed the old Squaresoft (well, that and the movies). But I miss the days when the big studios made it a thing to make budget games where they could let newer teams just make weird ass games with completely experimental systems and ideas and see what sticks.
@Zero_Tester
@Zero_Tester 6 ай бұрын
There is also some like Treasure Hunter G which are less interesting in term of story. It has lot times it tried to be humorous and emotional but sadly not really being memorable. The combat system is on other cases,it was much very much polished and fun, G is a tactics game, played out on small environments with different starting condition. Also the overworld area and dungeon stage is identical to Chrono Trigger with enemies leaping out from bush and stuff. In battle phase, the grid that affects your move range and action points(such as using item,throwing it to enemy or friend) Different enemies cost your characters more AP to attack than others. So you'll find yourself switching up combat strategies frequently. Characters use different weapons and have different magical abilities. So Red fight style is different than Blue,Rain(healer and magician)or Pongo. And you can change weapon during battle, devise strat using traps, or just throw anything at the enemy(Blue) Rudras has better story wise but Treasure Hunter G was more fun to play.
@SkyCarbuncle574
@SkyCarbuncle574 8 ай бұрын
When it comes to low name-recognition games deserving to be studied, the one that comes to mind is Radiant Historia.
@valvolt
@valvolt 8 ай бұрын
I logged in just to +1 your post. Radiant Historia should definitely be in this list.
@benedict6962
@benedict6962 8 ай бұрын
Radiant Historia definitely does a time travel plot extremely competently. I'm not as sold on the combat system though, there's not much more to squeeze out of that.
@chie970
@chie970 8 ай бұрын
Combat system can be better, but the storyline and the time travel aspect of it is just amazing. Words can't begin to describe
@hazelXin223
@hazelXin223 8 ай бұрын
I remember this game but I never beat it. I loved it so much, but my 3ds got stolen before I could finish :(
@enriquejoseantequerasanche6180
@enriquejoseantequerasanche6180 8 ай бұрын
Hell yes, the whole metawriting of "yeah the story is already written, here's the book, you just have to correct it" is great.
@sheldonzs
@sheldonzs 8 ай бұрын
Grandia 2 has one of the best RPG battle systems I've ever played. Octopath Traveler and Sea of Stars are both interesting with their weakness break mechanic
@dangox3370
@dangox3370 8 ай бұрын
Grandia 2's combat is way too easy. you can just skip all of the complexities of the system by using area of effect magic to finish every encounter in the first turn. What grandia 2 does best is party dynamics. The main party constantly banters with one another which makes them a whole lot of fun to adventure with.
@pjderouen
@pjderouen 8 ай бұрын
The Grandia mainline series is my favorite of all time. Their battle system is solid. Lunar feels like a precursor system to Grandia’s and is also solid.
@KugutsuYushiro
@KugutsuYushiro 8 ай бұрын
​@@dangox3370 that's an issue of balance then, not the mechanics
@dangox3370
@dangox3370 8 ай бұрын
​@@KugutsuYushiro you do have a point. Only in boss battles does the gimmick of delaying enemy attacks come into play. But even then, it rarely does any good.
@48hourrecordsteam45
@48hourrecordsteam45 7 ай бұрын
Ever
@XionSteel
@XionSteel 8 ай бұрын
Live-A-Live is something I played a long time ago with a translation patch and loved, and its really hard to answer people why I love it so much or why a certain group of people were so hyped about it's remake announcement without spoiling it. All I can say is that I just do and they should try it too, you wont forget it. If I can still vividly remember everything about a game I played more then 15 years ago when I have short term memory, then its well worth the play. 😊
@CodyBones004
@CodyBones004 9 ай бұрын
This is a very good video and I think a point to be made is that even though the focus was put mostly on nonlinearity, these games prove that it's not necessary, considering they all stay great even with a guide. Nonlinearity is difficult to design because it's basically never "true" nonlinearity, it just leaves the right blanks for you to fill in to feel more of a connection with the world and tone of the story (generally). These games all reward the curiosity that exploration can beckon in meaningful ways, giving you what feels like a unique experience even when you're doing the only thing you can.
@35infinite
@35infinite 9 ай бұрын
I agree in the sense that it's not about the destination, but the journey. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and kind words, I appreciate it.
@dimitriosgladio059
@dimitriosgladio059 8 ай бұрын
Played live a live and absolutely loved it, the uniqueness of each storyline and the Oersted storyline specifically was amazing
@AtoZnumber
@AtoZnumber 8 ай бұрын
So happy to see Crystal Project make this list. That game doesn't get talked about anywhere near enough. Never played another RPG quite like it - to anyone reading this who hasn't played/heard of it, please don't sleep on Crystal Project based on the voxel graphics!
@35infinite
@35infinite 8 ай бұрын
I totally agree. It's such a fun and unique game, glad I got it!
@phi9387
@phi9387 7 ай бұрын
It's ugly. so I won't play it.
@AtoZnumber
@AtoZnumber 7 ай бұрын
​@@phi9387no one cares 😊
@GodwynDi
@GodwynDi 7 ай бұрын
It was the only one on the list I hadn't already played or at least heard of.
@Xammblu_Games
@Xammblu_Games 8 ай бұрын
Why is it always well after 12am on a worknight when I stumble upon fantastic gaming content?! Kudos!
@35infinite
@35infinite 8 ай бұрын
lol Thank you, I appreciate it
@Wesker1984
@Wesker1984 8 ай бұрын
Blood Omen - Legacy Of Kain, the top down RPG from 1996 that set the gold standard for storytelling and voice acting in videogames, and spawned an awesome and sadly missed series that ended in 2003 after 5 installments.
@Slunked
@Slunked 7 ай бұрын
I've always had a dream of a Legacy of Kain remade in a soulslike fashion, all with the same voice actors. Obviously that would never happen, as I'm sure we couldn't get many of the voice actors again, but its just something cool to imagine.
@deserthobo
@deserthobo 7 ай бұрын
@@Slunked man that would be amazing
@bonethugsfiend
@bonethugsfiend 6 ай бұрын
Soul Reaver was sick
@ZX-Gear
@ZX-Gear 6 ай бұрын
Problem is with the VAs is Tony Jay is dead. So the Old One will be hard to replace.
@SlentVce
@SlentVce 5 ай бұрын
​@@Slunked man that would be dope af
@WhatAboutZoidberg
@WhatAboutZoidberg 8 ай бұрын
Grew up with Saga Frontier as a kid and after barely playing FF7 and a few other JRPGs it was like chaotic madness. I delved into all the weird systems, talked on forums about how systems worked in the game, incredible. I love the sparking skill system from SaGa games, Frontier 1 with all the different characters, eras and technology levels and the ability to just do what you want in almost any order is so refreshing on subsequent playthroughs.
@HollowRick
@HollowRick 8 ай бұрын
I'd say BOF DQ despite its reputation for killing the franchise for being so different actually had some interesting ideas and honestly as a BOF game if may not have been what the "western" fans wanted as it did well in Japan but if you take it as its own thing its Very unique even by todays standards and that story... What an ending
@35infinite
@35infinite 8 ай бұрын
I def had a hard time trying to get through Dragon Quarter 😅 But I appreciate you sharing your thoughts, thank you.
@IvorLongarrow
@IvorLongarrow 8 ай бұрын
Totally agree! Dragon Quarter was a Great Game with a lot of originale Idea, a cool plot, and with a lot of very good scene!
@andrewhegstrom2187
@andrewhegstrom2187 8 ай бұрын
I really couldn't stand BoFDQ when I first played it. But I went back to it and tried to understand it and play it like it asked instead of how I demanded and really enjoyed it. It really does have a lot going for it and encourages failing and trying again, which is admirable.
@zingstar57
@zingstar57 8 ай бұрын
I adored DQ. It forces the player to give their entire attention to each battle, so it's by default less boring than about any other JRPG. It's so difficult that unless you stop to think, you're gonna be filled with anxiety and fear. Wonderful game
@benedict6962
@benedict6962 8 ай бұрын
Dragon Quarter has the most developed pre-battle tactical play, with only literal wargames and trap-based games like Deception or Orcs Must Die even close to competing. The impact of your surroundings limiting movement combined with control over various baits and bombs makes enemy positioning huge, and the game is primarily limited by bad controls, old ps2 physics, and an incomplete implementation of everything else. Even so, it made players really look at the world around them from a tactical perspective, allowing the claustrophobic and worn down post-apoc world to sell itself with little effort. The combo system also had a lot of potential beyond damage optimization, had they cleaned up stat debuffing, used more balanced status ailments, provided actually useful descriptions for skill combos, and simply had the budget to make and animate more diverse skills.
@sinisterdesign
@sinisterdesign 8 ай бұрын
Cool video! I think it's interesting how many different areas RPGs can excel in. It's clear that you value exploration and open-endedness, but there are other things an RPG can focus on that are just as valuable: role-playing options and combat, to name a couple.
@35infinite
@35infinite 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching, I appreciate it.
@LuSanification
@LuSanification 7 ай бұрын
Panzer Dragoon Saga, the fluid combat. Relaxing exploration and rewarding in the way you perform in a battle (the more efficient you are, you get more money and points). Is something I havent seen replicated since... And those lo-fi graphics 👌
@brotbrotsen1100
@brotbrotsen1100 Ай бұрын
Pretty sure final fantasy 13 does this as well
@ThommyofThenn
@ThommyofThenn 9 ай бұрын
Wow! Valkyrie Profile really impressed me with the flying around the overworld like that. Really nice implementation
@Postumeartist
@Postumeartist 8 ай бұрын
Valkyrie profile is absolutely fantastic. There is a cheap way to cheese a lot of it, but the atmosphere is great. A great “twist” and out of the box thinking.
@ChibiKami
@ChibiKami 5 ай бұрын
a pity getting the best ending is completely unintuitive; you have to sabotage your recruitment and then send a specific character to Valhalla at a specific time and then do specific things with no indication of any of it
@ThommyofThenn
@ThommyofThenn 5 ай бұрын
@@ChibiKami it was at the tail end of the supremely frustrating "moon logic" era. That sounds just like some early 90s Sierra adventue game lol. I appreciate well conceived puzzles but when the player cannot find the solution using logic or in-game hints, that just really hurts the game's reputation. I'm glad that it's still being given a chance though; like in my first comment, the game has some really neat features that deserve some love. Sorry if my grammar is not perfect.
@NearlyInfinite-rk5jy
@NearlyInfinite-rk5jy 12 күн бұрын
I really appreciate these videos. As an amatuer dev, it helps me to see what features get other rpg lovers excited. Also, busting my brain with the few free hours I get, there isn't a lot of time for me to sample all these myself.
@Adammasterofuseless
@Adammasterofuseless 8 ай бұрын
Great video, really loved the angle you took speaking about playing games in order to learn good game design.
@35infinite
@35infinite 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Eener1000
@Eener1000 8 ай бұрын
Mechanics/content wise a RPG that SHOULD be studied by any new dev is Lufia 2; It has a great equipment system with loads of depth(special abilities for gear, special stats and resistances etc). It has great Puzzles. The way it handles enemies in dungeons is very creative and so much better then random battles and the best/most fun system in any rpg I have seen so far. The minigames are awesome(casino, Ancient Cave). It has so many secrets and things to discover. It has monster training. The guys making this took every cool thing from the peak RPGs in the 90s and gave it a creative spin.
@35infinite
@35infinite 8 ай бұрын
Love me some Lufia and I love the puzzles in 2. Good call!
@kyrasoze516
@kyrasoze516 8 ай бұрын
Lufia 2 is one of the best unpopular games from the SNES era. It'll never supplant FF6 as my favorite RPG, but it definitely makes the list
@megasoniczxx
@megasoniczxx 8 ай бұрын
Explorations one of those things that I always really valued in an RPG, especially since I grew up on Paper Mario and the like instead of Final Fantasy and more traditional RPGs. Another thing I really love are decently involved dungeons. Recently i've been playing Star Ocean 3 again and I only grow more and more appreciative of that games dungeon design as I grow older since you're never doing the same things in that game, almost every dungeon is something different and they tow that line of just being involved enough to not overstay their welcome with my only real issue with them being how many have shortcuts but only work one way.
@yoonvsaechao
@yoonvsaechao 7 ай бұрын
Stumbled upon this channel, watched a video and then watched every other video. Keep up the great work!!!
@35infinite
@35infinite 7 ай бұрын
Thank you very much, I appreciate it!
@Augoeides32
@Augoeides32 8 ай бұрын
We're getting a Star Ocean 2 remake I think next month, and the series had a new installment earlier this year. So, my current hopes, is that this is the beginning of a come back for Tri-Ace classics. SquareEnix has gotten quite lazy over the years, and does a lot of remakes, usually releasing them on Steam. They could set their sights on the Valkyrie Profile series next, and maybe we'll eventually get a proper sequal (VP2 was kind of subpar). I also just remembered that Valkyrie Profile had a DS spinoff that was really similar to the first game, but you worked for Hel and sacrificed recruits to her.
@35infinite
@35infinite 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, SO2R, November 2nd. I liked the QoL improvements playing the demo, though all the battle enhancements made combat too easy, will def have to play on the tougher difficulty. I really enjoyed The Divine Force as well. I still need the VP DS game, it sounds rad, the little you described. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
@tylorhobbs8920
@tylorhobbs8920 8 ай бұрын
Not entirely sure I'd call it similar. It's a strategy RPG where you get the classic VP combat when you picka fight, but you can only use the characters who are in range for that combat. Aside from that, the balance can be a bit wonky with the multiple endings, with the game wanting you to carry over skills from the other playthroughs in order to be able to beat the best ending's boss, but those skills making the rest of the game before it a breeze. Also, always keep the skill that gives you extra movement handy. Not only are the maps large, but they love their snow terrain way too much, which means that as you spend half your turns getting from one fight to another, your movement is capped to around two squares per turn. Those extra bits of movement that ignore terrain costs are a lifesaver.
@diersteinjulien6773
@diersteinjulien6773 7 ай бұрын
I kinda disagree with squareenix being lazy. They may be doing lots of remakes but this year we got two games, octopath 2 and FF16, that can be called anything but lazy. And we had a Valkyrie profile kinda-sequel last year. Valkyrie Elysium.
@Augoeides32
@Augoeides32 7 ай бұрын
@@diersteinjulien6773 They don't do the remakes justice though. Everything is gutted and dumbed down, or they just do a full emulated port and charge like $40 for what should be a $20 experience. I liked Octopath Traveler 1, but it was over-hyped. The game had ZERO balace, magic flat out broke the game, and was required to finish it, because the Bosses were all bullet sponges. The story was kind of padded with stereotypical plot devices, too. I'm definitely not getting the second game, or into the Brave series, because of it. Star Ocean 2R came out, and I am having fun with it, but it's had a lot of the main features that made the game memorable for me dumbed down, or flat out removed. They made a lot of wanted improvements, but got rid of the iconic Killer Move leveling system, and replaced it with a point system, that only allowed attacks to go up to 3 ranks. Doing this gutted DOZENS of animations from the game. Along with some other mindless crap. Imagine if they did this to all of the Tales games, which are known for pioneering that kind of battle system? I hated FF13 to the point that I couldn't bother finishing Disc 2, didn't understand the love for FF14's linear combat, heard mixed things about FF15 (which honestly looks like a button mash fest, apparently you need to buy a separate movie to understand the plot?), and FF16 didn't look interesting at all (basically looks like a medieval take on FF14 with Devil May Cry thrown in). The FF7 Remake was split into several different games, and padded out the butt with pointless content, and battle look padded out the butt with HP Sponges. Most of their modern games are riddled with microtransactions. So yeah. I think SquareEnix is lazy. The days of their revolutionary games they used to release from our childhood are long over. Their mostly a publisher these days, and their no even good at that. Maybe I'm bias and have an overnegative take, but I've watched them devolved over the years, and as someone's who first game was basically Final Fantasy 1 on the NES, I'm disappointed at what they've become.
@onadaTotihotiH
@onadaTotihotiH 8 ай бұрын
Yooooooooooo, glad to see someone talk about Crystal Project, checked the game out like a month after it released and thoroughly enjoyed my time in Sequoia. Glad to see that other people are finally recognizing it a bit more
@35infinite
@35infinite 8 ай бұрын
The game definitely deserves more recognition. 👍
@GodOfPlague
@GodOfPlague 4 ай бұрын
I'm definitely going to check it out.
@antonybrisson4090
@antonybrisson4090 6 ай бұрын
But i love linear games….
@NotUncleRiley
@NotUncleRiley 19 күн бұрын
Ok that's your opinion but not everyone likes games like that.
@caturiges
@caturiges 8 ай бұрын
Great video, I liked your picks and the editing! I am expecting awesome content from your channel in the future!
@35infinite
@35infinite 8 ай бұрын
I appreciate your nice words, thank you for watching.
@imscotturnotx1
@imscotturnotx1 7 ай бұрын
Chained Echoes is a fantastic game that really brought be game to yesteryear but with todays QoL implementation. Truly a modern classic.
@myifanw
@myifanw 7 ай бұрын
I just beat it, everything was so seemless. Kinda wish the script was abit cleaned up, the dialogue wasn't as good as the plot, but still very enjoyable and I really enjoyed the exploration even when I usually hate exploring.
@BingBangPoe
@BingBangPoe 8 ай бұрын
Nice to see _Valkyrie Profile_ in this list. The game was definitely AGES ahead of its time in every aspect. I miss when tri-Ace used to be experimental with their games. I'm really hoping it'll get a soft-remake treatment similarly to _Star Ocean: The Secont Story R._ Some misconceptions that I need to clear from your video: you don't actually need to send Einherjars to Valhalla with the best gear; the most important thing is that they meet the criteria established by Freya (Skills, hero-type, specific Traits), and ideally you'll want them to be at the highest Hero Value possible (by maxing out their Traits). Other than that, you can send them without a single piece of equipment and they'll perform well once sent to Valhalla. _Chained Echoes_ is an absolute masterpiece. Crazy to think this game was spearheaded by a single dude. He managed to make the game feel NOSTALGIC while giving it a modern spin at the same time. Few devs can pull that.
@lucchi018
@lucchi018 7 ай бұрын
For me, the RPG that needs to be studied is Panzer Dragoon Saga. Made from a group who had never worked in a rpg before, making a entire battle system from scratch that's based on the same feeling of aerial battles from the other entries (rail shooters) + an unique setting you have never seen before, from story, world building and visuals all neatly tied together. That game is pure gold for me
@35infinite
@35infinite 7 ай бұрын
I need to get me a Saturn. Thanks for you sharing your thoughts.
@jonaselowery
@jonaselowery 7 ай бұрын
Awesome video. Love to hear anyone gush about Crystal Project. I hadn't heard of Valkyrie Profile, I might need to check that out.
@Gingrnut
@Gingrnut 7 ай бұрын
I really need to play Valkyrie Profile. Everything I hear about it tells me it would be right up my street, and that combo of early 3D and really, really gorgeous late pixel art is such a good combo!
@Paolo_Scippa
@Paolo_Scippa 8 ай бұрын
I didn't knew about these RPG's even tho it is one of my most love genre. Thank you for this video, i have seen wonderfull things!!
@35infinite
@35infinite 8 ай бұрын
My pleasure 👍
@artofwar420
@artofwar420 7 ай бұрын
These are some BANGERS. Good stuff bro.
@35infinite
@35infinite 7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@jkrisanda2011
@jkrisanda2011 8 ай бұрын
This was beautiful. Thank you.
@35infinite
@35infinite 8 ай бұрын
My pleasure 👍
@SweisSenpai
@SweisSenpai 9 ай бұрын
Again, incredible first vid bro! Can’t wait for more :)
@35infinite
@35infinite 9 ай бұрын
Thanks, dude. I appreciate all your support.
@toocoolforshampoo
@toocoolforshampoo 5 ай бұрын
that old capcom logo theme still gives me a chub, when i was a kid and heard that i new i was playing a top tier game.
@ElvencloudYT
@ElvencloudYT 7 ай бұрын
Great content. Thanks for some really good game recommendations!
@MotherKojiro
@MotherKojiro 7 ай бұрын
Live-A-Live has held the title of my all-time favorite game full stop for a long time, but in October, I spent the entire month replaying SaGa Frontier, and I think that might've taken its place at least as my favorite RPG. It's very hard to get into, because it's very open, the mechanics have NOVELS written about how everything works, and you don't know which of the seven scenarios to start with, and even once you get past that, it can be brutally difficult at times. I couldn't recommend it to everyone, but those who are able to get into it will find some great characters, unusual stories, and an incredible world made up of dozens of smaller worlds with unbelievable detail packed into them. It's very open and pretty grindy, but it all fits together very well, because the story bits in each scenario each have a satisfying enough ending that you aren't desperate to get back to it, so grinding isn't torturous. It's so quirky you can't always tell what's a bug and what's a feature, but the core design philosophy is really solid.
@vegetafett
@vegetafett 9 ай бұрын
Loved the video and all the info about the games I haven't played yet. Live a Live is definitely an interesting and fun game .
@35infinite
@35infinite 9 ай бұрын
Thanks dude, I appreciate it
@Uberwenis
@Uberwenis 6 ай бұрын
This was a great video. Also, one of the things that I've talked about for years (and always get shit on about) is how Final Fantasy 13-2 has a really fantastic time travel system, but lots of people I know didn't like 13 so they couldn't be bothered. Then there's the entire SMT series which thankfully is gaining popularity lately.
@35infinite
@35infinite 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts, I appreciate it. 🙂
@exmaarmaca
@exmaarmaca 6 ай бұрын
Yes I when played 13-2 was like "this feels better than 13-1", from what I remember it time travel was more of what I call "an x,y axis map" since you were traveling on time (x axis) and alternate dimensions (y axis), kind of how it was on Chrono Cross.
@kanardy
@kanardy 8 ай бұрын
Maybe not exactly an RPG but E.G.G. (Elemental Gimmick Gear) for the Dreamcast comes to mind as a game that deserves a second look. It was such an amazing action/adventure game with RPG elements and unique puzzle/exploration sprinkled in. Hand drawn graphics/backgrounds gave it a (for the time) unique charm. I bought a dreamcast again a couple years back literally just to play this game 😂
@606PikeCountyByGod
@606PikeCountyByGod 7 ай бұрын
Dude, what a combination of good taste and variety. You've got a subscriber outta me.
@35infinite
@35infinite 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for your kind words, I appreciate it.
@IKilledYourDude
@IKilledYourDude 7 ай бұрын
Same! Great vid. Subbed!
@35infinite
@35infinite 7 ай бұрын
@@IKilledYourDude thank you, I appreciate it 👍
@Jikkuryuu
@Jikkuryuu 8 ай бұрын
It's wonderful that people are discovering the original Valkyrie Profile all over again. Very few games have done anything like it since. Credit goes to Indivisible for serving us the combat and the fun 2d navigation/puzzle solving I'd been craving. I don't want to undermine your points in this video. We all need to shout about the things we love and want more of much more often than we do. So when I say that it sounds like you want more western style rpgs it's because I want you to get the stuff you're hankering for. Your video reminds me of the old comparison between JRPGS and WRPGS, linear vs. non-linear, discovery vs. progression, that sort of thing. I'm not sure what your gaming background is, but Morrowind and some of the Ultima games (ask an expert which ones, IX is literally unplayable without fanmods) would hit a lot of the notes you're describing. Arcanum was _incredibly_ ambitious and suffered for it, but most of that ambition was achieved. All that being said, I sure haven't heard of anything like what you've described coming out in the last decade. Some games really should be required learning for devs.
@atursams5501
@atursams5501 8 ай бұрын
Great work on this video!
@35infinite
@35infinite 8 ай бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate it.
@cbmalta42
@cbmalta42 6 ай бұрын
Played and loved VP and Live A Live prior to watching this video, but learned of, purchased, and can’t wait to try Chained Echoes as a result of this video. Thanks in advance!
@35infinite
@35infinite 6 ай бұрын
That's awesome! I hope you enjoy it!
@NA-jd6wy
@NA-jd6wy 8 ай бұрын
Wow! This was a great video! Definitely subscribing!
@35infinite
@35infinite 8 ай бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate it
@wesin_
@wesin_ 8 ай бұрын
Good video, you gained a subscriber. Excited to see what you come up with in the future
@35infinite
@35infinite 8 ай бұрын
Thank you very much, I appreciate it.
@ElwoodSharit
@ElwoodSharit 5 ай бұрын
Wow, I did not expect Crystal Project to be on this list. Instantly Subscribed!
@35infinite
@35infinite 5 ай бұрын
Right on, thank you! Love me some Crystal Project 👍
@stabbedbyapanda
@stabbedbyapanda 8 ай бұрын
Keep up the good work, looking forward to seeing more :)
@35infinite
@35infinite 8 ай бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate it 👍
@spacepan
@spacepan 8 ай бұрын
Live a Live is so special
@TheMichaellathrop
@TheMichaellathrop 7 ай бұрын
So there were some examples in Xenogears where you needed to be in your mech to get somewhere and then had to get out to go into a people sized area, it was mostly just in little side areas in a few of the dungeons that you had to platform in your mechs to get to, or spots where you had to hop out of your mech to go into a room to flip a switch before getting back in the mech to continue but it added a fun little extra bit to exploration that would have been nice to see expanded on if it had ever gotten a direct squeal (I don't recall the first xenosaga game doing the same thing).
@keyzack
@keyzack 8 ай бұрын
Nice one mate. Subbed. Keep it up! 💪
@35infinite
@35infinite 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much, I appreciate it 💪
@Kay-Ottik
@Kay-Ottik 7 ай бұрын
I'd recommend Digimon World for the ps1. The sense of exploring an open world, the risk of losing your Digimon from death or neglecting it and rebuilding the town was pretty unique. Also Outward. That is great for similar reasons. That great sense of adventure. These are both imperfect games, but they give an experience like no other.
@widdrshinswonders
@widdrshinswonders 6 ай бұрын
Only RPG to nail the feeling of looking for a rest stop on a road trip while someone in the car needs to poop.
@shipovnik89
@shipovnik89 6 ай бұрын
Valkyrie Profile is my lifelong companion, as well as the Gothic dilogy. Replaying every year, never gets old.
@Panasonicy0uth
@Panasonicy0uth 8 ай бұрын
As an avid JRPG fan, I tried hard to like Chained Echoes, but couldn’t gel with it. The bad dialogue killed the immersion and the battle system made every encounter feel like a boss battle.
@gethermedel3620
@gethermedel3620 8 ай бұрын
looks a Final Fantasy and Xenogears inspired game but with a hint of increased difficulty. my kinda thing where you actually use your head to strategize things
@warboats
@warboats 8 ай бұрын
Got me wanting to play all of these now, cant believe live a live came out in 94!!
@35infinite
@35infinite 8 ай бұрын
Hell yeah! If you play'em, I hope you enjoy'em. 👍
@RicardoKopperschmidt
@RicardoKopperschmidt 7 ай бұрын
You want exploration? Skies of Arcadia. One of the best RPG I ever played!
@patchgatsby9138
@patchgatsby9138 7 ай бұрын
I've played tons of RPGs, but The World Ends With You on the DS is one that I keep thinking about.
@thcollegestudent
@thcollegestudent 9 ай бұрын
I had no idea Chained Echos was that in depth, seems criminal they aren't bigger or more popular! Great video, hope to see more!
@35infinite
@35infinite 9 ай бұрын
It's a great game, imo, jumped into my top 10 after I played it. I hope you check it out. Thanks for the kinds words, I appreciate it.
@SnowCoveredKK
@SnowCoveredKK 8 ай бұрын
Definitely a top 10 RPG for me as well
@julz19
@julz19 8 ай бұрын
And it was made by 1 person
@fumomofumosarum5893
@fumomofumosarum5893 8 ай бұрын
it would have been more popular had they made the char designs a bit nicer, I'd say.. there's really no particularly great artist behind it - and it's a small thing to do to hire a popular artist and goes a long way.
@SnowCoveredKK
@SnowCoveredKK 8 ай бұрын
@@julz19 I mean I want to say you’re right about the one person, but he definitely hired someone else to do the music and that person hired 20 people to be musicians and singers. Easy to see during the credit scroll. But that does not take away from the fact that one man wrote an implemented the entire scenario
@its_just_matt
@its_just_matt 8 ай бұрын
100% Live A Live is an amazing feat in RPG design for so many reasons. There are also so many RPGs that came out during the PS1 era (like Planet Laika but others too and in earlier generations too) that have mostly been written off as sub-par or too weird; another consequence of an experimental and growing scene. I was recently replaying SMT for Super Famicom and it's amazing how much groundwork that game laid for all the future games in the series. It still holds up and set up a lot of new standards in that game that it and other games still use today.
@SadTown99
@SadTown99 8 ай бұрын
What an incredible video dude! Thanks so much for sharing, makes me want to jump into RPG Maker again… I love stuff like Valkyrie & Chained Echoes, but lately I been REALLY impressed with the “ Fear & Hunger “ games… Check them out if you like horror themes too
@35infinite
@35infinite 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much I appreciate it. And I do have Feed & Hunger on my radar!
@SolidShinoda
@SolidShinoda 8 ай бұрын
I think there's several JRPGs in the PSX catalog that are worth mentioning, with intricate systems that haven't really been used again. Things like Vagrant Story with the orb-like targeting (first seen on Parasite Eve although vastly improved with timed attacks and parries), Legend of Legaia with the directional input for arts, Legend of Dragoon with timed attacks in the reticle system, and so on. Nowadays, it feels like all these reimaginations of oldschool JRPGs have the same turn based action selection combat systems, reminiscent of the first DQ/FF games. And that's just mentioning combat systems.
@madkaiser4887
@madkaiser4887 8 ай бұрын
YOOOOOO! Banger first video!!!!!
@35infinite
@35infinite 8 ай бұрын
Thanks, dude!
@FF2Guy
@FF2Guy 8 ай бұрын
Paladin’s Quest’s mercenary system is a nice feature. In fact, any game that lets you choose who you want in your party adds a level of customization and replayability
@35infinite
@35infinite 8 ай бұрын
Agreed 👍
@JoJoMcFly7
@JoJoMcFly7 8 ай бұрын
Thank u bro great vid 👊🏼
@35infinite
@35infinite 8 ай бұрын
My pleasure 👊
@seraaron
@seraaron 8 ай бұрын
this is a much more interesting "top X" list than just "my personal faves"
@kfishwick3
@kfishwick3 7 ай бұрын
1:06 that is so cool! It's like- why not? The ability to manually fly across the world like that rather than using instant travel/ Pigeotto using FLY is a far superior alternative! Cool stuff.
@heathenmonk1249
@heathenmonk1249 8 ай бұрын
Chained Echoes was a great surprise last year. You'll love Sea of Stars
@supersmallchibiwolf872
@supersmallchibiwolf872 7 ай бұрын
These were some amazing points you made of these games that I haven't played and It got me interested. But I have seen Valkyrie Profile throughout the years in stores, conventions and online and I feel like I see it every month or every other month. I feel like at this point I should just get it and give it a tr. It does look like a fun game. Cool video. ^_^
@35infinite
@35infinite 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the kind words. I hope when you play Valkyrie Profile that you enjoy it.
@supersmallchibiwolf872
@supersmallchibiwolf872 7 ай бұрын
@@35infinite You're welcome. Hopefully I find and play it the beginning of next year. Thank you. ^_^
@NCHProductions
@NCHProductions 6 ай бұрын
hello, just saying at first glance your thumbnail, the font you choose made me read "Studied" as "Stupid" it got me to click and watch the video tho. =3
@justinmillard8196
@justinmillard8196 4 ай бұрын
@35infinite follow up video!
@bloodaonadeline8346
@bloodaonadeline8346 7 ай бұрын
I bought Valkyrie profile when it first came out on psx and I really didn’t get it. I replayed it on psp and I finally realized how amazing it is.
@theprofessorjools
@theprofessorjools 9 ай бұрын
This list reminded me of Eternal Eyes for the ps1, such an underrated rpg
@35infinite
@35infinite 9 ай бұрын
I've never played it but I always remember the cover art. Appreciate you watching.
@benedict6962
@benedict6962 8 ай бұрын
A game largely hindered by slow animations, obtuse gem upgrades not elaborated ingame, and painful xp loss if your puppets die. You could do a lot more with it today. Human characters with gem-cost skills, more varied puppet movement and passives, etc.
@ArtaxNOO
@ArtaxNOO 8 ай бұрын
I am a child of the 80s. Why do I get that “sigh” moment wen there’s no “waypoint”? Getting lazy, I guess. Give me Mystic Quest🤪
@35infinite
@35infinite 8 ай бұрын
I haven't played Mystic Quest in so long, I think about it some times. I always remember using the claw hookshot to traverse, that kind of stuff was fun for me.
@calebstahl2215
@calebstahl2215 8 ай бұрын
My first RPG
@joeypwner5563
@joeypwner5563 6 ай бұрын
Happy Birthday to Valkyrie Profile
@Seama327
@Seama327 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for showing me Crystal Project
@35infinite
@35infinite 8 ай бұрын
No problemo 👍
@GamingWithSpoons
@GamingWithSpoons 8 ай бұрын
Chained Echoes is really a game I need to check out. Might be a game I cover on my own channel some day. Great video by the way. I kinda want to check out Crystal Projects at some point.
@35infinite
@35infinite 8 ай бұрын
Chained Echoes would totally be worth your time 👍
@Crimsonrosso
@Crimsonrosso 9 ай бұрын
cool video! hoestly ive been meaning to pick up chained echoes and hearing about the mech suits got me way more interested. also never ven heard of crystal project before? looks dope tho
@35infinite
@35infinite 9 ай бұрын
I def recommend both. You can still pre order a physical of Chained Echoes on First Press. Crystal Project was a random surprise. Always browse all the categories on Steam! Lol and thank you
@Crimsonrosso
@Crimsonrosso 9 ай бұрын
@@35infinite i may do that or use my ps cards. And gonna have to keep an eye on steam a lot more
@CYI3ERPUNK
@CYI3ERPUNK 8 ай бұрын
honestly this is a pretty great list dude , im 100% agreed with what you have here , valkyrie profile basically ruined me on the standard jrpg template , afterwards i would always crave something more creative ; i would add Xenogears and the Ultima series 4/5/6/UW/7/UW2/SI/8
@35infinite
@35infinite 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much, I appreciate it.
@nintenjoel
@nintenjoel 8 ай бұрын
Great video! New subscriber! I'm glad you reminded me of Chained Echoes... I need to preorder that.
@35infinite
@35infinite 8 ай бұрын
My pleasure, and thank you, I appreciate it.
@zacharychevrier-ferreira6993
@zacharychevrier-ferreira6993 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely loved Live A Live and Chained Echoes. My dude, you HAVE to play Monster Sanctuary if you like the metroidvania/turn based RPG battle mechanics. It’s such a gem, and the back half of the OST fucking SLAPS
@35infinite
@35infinite 6 ай бұрын
I'll def research it! Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
@Soccer333bc
@Soccer333bc 7 ай бұрын
Another awesome jrpg that really scratches that exploration itch is Terranigma. Fantastic game.
@35infinite
@35infinite 7 ай бұрын
I need to actually finish that game, I enjoyed what I played. Good suggestion 👍
@lucaslui9665
@lucaslui9665 8 ай бұрын
nice vid dude! keep it up!
@lucaslui9665
@lucaslui9665 8 ай бұрын
valkyrie profile is the game keep coming back to my mind after playing it like 18-20years ago
@35infinite
@35infinite 8 ай бұрын
@@lucaslui9665 Thanks for the kind words, I appreciate it. You should def play it again!
@jellycubed3575
@jellycubed3575 8 ай бұрын
I'd put out the recent Octopath Traveler 2 for study. It's got the multiple stories like Live A Live and it's 100% worth a play to anyone that likes JRPGs.
@35infinite
@35infinite 8 ай бұрын
I love Octopath 2, good choice 👍
@joebilly3719
@joebilly3719 8 ай бұрын
While I agree with the Chained Echoes point, I think it is worth mentioning that several of its exploration features/things that incentivize exploration were introduced in the Xenoblade games first
@human22265
@human22265 8 ай бұрын
You're right! In Xenoblade X, you can fly around in a mech and explore a huge 3D world.
@rhebbhulett
@rhebbhulett 8 ай бұрын
Monster Sanctuary. So good. So satisfying.
@eclat4641
@eclat4641 7 ай бұрын
Great video!! I make my own dnd games so thins is good to think about.
@35infinite
@35infinite 7 ай бұрын
Right on, I hope your next campaign is bitchin 👍
@eclat4641
@eclat4641 7 ай бұрын
@@35infinite thanks ☺️. some of these ideas i never would have thought of lol.
@agaba5500
@agaba5500 8 ай бұрын
those last 2 were so cool
@davidsantana2568
@davidsantana2568 8 ай бұрын
Solid vid man. Never heard of Crystal Project. Chained Echoes is awesome. Been playing that and Sea of Stars lately. Was not able to get my hands on the physical versions of Chained Echoes tho 😢
@35infinite
@35infinite 8 ай бұрын
Appreciate it. I just finished Sea of Stars last night. First Press still has physical Chained Echoes up for preorder, fyi. Thanks for watching!
@davidsantana2568
@davidsantana2568 8 ай бұрын
@@35infinite thanks man. They only have the pc version available. I’ll just check in daily. Thks again!
@DatBoiSaint
@DatBoiSaint 7 ай бұрын
Sheesh I'm definitely buying Live a Live, I was curious about it for a while. I loved Chained Echos & Crystal Project when I played them.
@35infinite
@35infinite 7 ай бұрын
Right on! I hope you enjoy it 👍
@Zacherywolf77
@Zacherywolf77 8 ай бұрын
You study them the platforms right there
@icecreamman2687
@icecreamman2687 8 ай бұрын
really great idea for a video
@35infinite
@35infinite 8 ай бұрын
Thanks
@vincentshadetree
@vincentshadetree 7 ай бұрын
3:20 When I first started playing the game I didn't think I was gonna like it all that much, first playthrough got me the B ending. Then when I read everything you had to do for the A ending I jumped back in determined to see what was the true story and I'm so glad I did. I absolutely loved the story and characters and the tragedy of everything that was happening. It all clicked and the story didn't seem disjointed any longer and I became a fan. I still want Hrist to get her own story since the other two sisters have had their own.
@SkellionPowalskiz
@SkellionPowalskiz 8 ай бұрын
Since someone else already mentioned Treasure of the Rudras you should also check out Dark Half. Yet another Japan-only SNES RPG that's really weird but also cool as hell.
@35infinite
@35infinite 8 ай бұрын
I'll look it up, thanks for the suggestion. 👍
@erekiddo
@erekiddo 9 ай бұрын
New channel, new video, new subscription by me. Keep it up!
@35infinite
@35infinite 9 ай бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate it.
@michaelfrails
@michaelfrails 8 ай бұрын
Great vid, subbed
@35infinite
@35infinite 8 ай бұрын
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it.
@chickenfillets
@chickenfillets 8 ай бұрын
Yo!!!! Live-a-Live is amazing!!!
@35infinite
@35infinite 8 ай бұрын
Hell yeah 👍
@ChrisBayle76
@ChrisBayle76 8 ай бұрын
I read a preview of a recent update to Guild Wars 2, and Crystal Project looks like how I imagined the exploration worked
@Windavee
@Windavee 5 ай бұрын
Valkyrie profile is the most underrated rpg in gaming history
@35infinite
@35infinite 5 ай бұрын
It's def a good one more people should play
@pillshere2355
@pillshere2355 7 ай бұрын
Glad you included Crystal Project, that game was magical. Definitely my favorite indie JRPG of the recent years.
@35infinite
@35infinite 7 ай бұрын
I'm so glad I found that game, glad there are so many others that like it as well.
@residentgrey
@residentgrey 8 ай бұрын
There are some text-based games I think that are worth studying, like Aardwolf and the Gearhead games. I see the latter as a fascinating technical achievement and playing them is way better than most I have tried, including nethack or rogue.
@caseyhayes4590
@caseyhayes4590 7 ай бұрын
I'm always shocked no developers copy Panzer Dragoon Saga and make random battles that are super fun and fluid. It still feels like an RPG and even feels like turn based combat because it's based on timed meters...but it's actually really fun, almost like a rhythm game. That was a quarter century ago and when I played it upon release I figured it would just be the new type of battle experience...nope. It wouldn't have to be exactly like that, just something sort of like it. The rest of the game on a technical level wasn't really that revolutionary, just a very early 3D RPG, but the battles (and the general art direction) really are worthy of the game's legendary collector status.
@coolcow92HQ
@coolcow92HQ 7 ай бұрын
I think a mechanic that should return is the shadow of mordor nemesis system there’s so much potential with that system. If they implemented that into a Star Wars game it would be amazing
@35infinite
@35infinite 7 ай бұрын
Nemesis system is dope. I can imagine it in a Star Wars game where some random bounty hunter you bested comes back for revenge.
@GramOfAdderall
@GramOfAdderall 6 ай бұрын
Valkyrie Profile is the goat. Goes against the grain of every RPG in almost every way.
@35infinite
@35infinite 6 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed how different it was fo sho
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