Far more realistic.

@@baker90338 Tbh of the two 40k is more realistic. Sure its more fantastical, but the people in it are people and act like people. On and off screen. Can't say the same for Star Trek tbh.

So 40k reacts first.

@@laurie1183 star Treks tech is also far more fantastical considering they hand wave energy concerns and physics at the atomic level to make 'tea, earl grey...hot' with a teachnology that can create life AND has the most frightening of military implications but in the show the greatest known feats of that tech are making a phaser (most advanced item of a standard replicator) creating bio plagues, and the greatest on screen or even in mention presented feat of the industrial level replicators making a single tractor...so the farmers want to keep the device for when their equipment breaks rather than making a industrial level stockpile. They are playing god for tea, and too caught up in their own arrogance to contemplate simple uses for one of the most broken technology in sci-fi.

@@codyraugh6599 I'm mostly just curious where all the corrupt assholes or the purely self interested or the just generally spiteful dicks or the total cuntwaffles are in Star Trek.

Eric Grieve are you saying that the high lords are in realety team fortress

I sure hope so. I feel like the Assissinorum could get a lot done with the Spy in charge.

Eric Grieve conigor for fabricator general 41000

That's basicall the Imperium in a nutshell. Applies to Orcs too *HERESY!*

No no no! That's the Ork Mekboy solution, just translated into inferior Mechanicus/Gothic! Although now that I think about it, I've never seen Orkimedes and Belisaurius Cawl together in the same room...

and toasty

Astropath on Prometheus: "They say everything is fire." Salamanders Captain: "Pack your bags brothers! I found a friendly place for a vacation!"

"We're getting lit up here!" "Sounds like a great party!"

"We are getting light beer" "Does not sound like a great party. We will deal with other astropathic messages first and return to this call in let's say a decade or so when they offer something better."

given the rough ride 40k is I'm sure there is still a lot this misled crusade fleet can wage war against

FOUND THE GENESTEALER!

@@deusvermiculus1072 PUUUUURGE THE XENO, KILL IT WITH FIRE, QUICK BEFORE IT LAYS EGGS perhaps while we're at it burn the entire city, just in case it did already lay eggs, or just for the glory of the emperor.

Owl Thieu just burn the planet just to make sure

And yet even the great Hive swarms have been turned aside, destroyed or rendered effectively impotent time and time again. At great cost to be sure.

I wonder how thst will work once a winner is found between the orcs and bugs.

So it because the Imperial Army Imprerial Guard Astra Militarum THE WALL OF GUNS

Imperium: pokes ork empire. Orks: YOU WOT!? Imperium: 0_0

@@bluedwarf1699 OY, DA ‘ELL YA DOIN OOMIE? YOU WANNA ‘AVE A GO?!

*Dark Souls Boss music begins*

No its drown the enemy in bodies.

the empirium of man acts more like the swarm than the literal swarm of insectoids

A Tyranid army takes a planet, suddenly the sky just darkens as there is suddenly hundreds of millions of guardsmen just pouring from the sky.

I like this comment.

Yeet men

a bit in the PC?

A thread on a screw.

Each planet would be a cog and each life the file to keep it turning.

A single damm atom apart of the nail that keeps the cog in that turns other cogs to work the machine

A bit in a terrabyte

'The Emporer protects' is an extortion scam.

@@pronoydutta614 The Emperor Protects, but He also Expects

You made my day

@@danielgarza1209 it seems he expects a lot....like, everything.

@Monster Mash taxes saved human civilization. How dare you spout such heresy.... Look at the Eldar, those damn Bohemians.

and right next to it the realm of ultramar..... yup they have a bright future ahead of them

@@theDuke0001 First i see size of Tau "Empire", more like couple of star systems not a great treat if not for dirty bribery of populations to believe in their commie bulshit. Then i see they are right next to Ultramar.. yeah nothing to worry about, blueberries are going to piss off super smurfs in millenia or two and its only few star systems that gets later repopulated.

@@cyberanimealien Damn you for reminding us!;)

Plus the tau try their best to not annoy the big angry neighbours that have a habit of machine gun grenade launcher anything that moves when roused

@@cyberanimealien The game Battlefleet: Gothic Armada takes place in the Gothic sector, Right? How are The Tau having ships on the OTHER SIDE of the galaxy while they have a worse ftl than the Imperium. Also why would they try anything THERE.

That's why they hired Mao

Damm straight. Even Stalin would see the God-Emperor Of Man as a, bit on the cold and callous, side.

@@Erakius323 well Stalin was a petty tryant , the God emperor was fighting against eldtrict horrors.

@@mannysong1752 And he almost won, that’s the worst part.

I don't think Stalin would hesitate

IT MUST NOT FALL.

@@farskies5343 and send just 4 space marine to protect planet

INTENSITY.... *INTENSIFIES*

Zerebrat Eightyseven hippity hoppity, where the fuck is my property?

I’m here to do two things and two things only: Purge heretics and steal your shit. And I already stole your shit.

And the tyranid hive fleet was the thing that saved the tau empire from ceasing to exist.

Oh no if u bastards wanna sacrifice yourself just dont use my toasters

Never could get myself to believe this. If you are at constant war and suffer constant losses what will come to a halt is your military. Without massive cloning effort and the fact that it takes AT LEAST fifteen years (eighteen if you want an actually useful soldier) to gain a soldier and the fact that hive cities seem to suffer from terrible sanitary conditions and lack of medical care you'd lose and you'd lose quickly. And before you say: It's fictional: If a character (a normal human being) in fiction was riddled with bullets and kept going you'd say: "That's dumb. I can't suspend my disbelief." That's what's happening with the Imperium of Man. There's no way they can sustain their war machine through constant all-out war. I do like the universe but I can't suspend my disbelief enough to take the struggle seriously or fear they will fall because no matter what they do, the IOM will never fall. And the creators don't do much to explain why it isn't falling. And Astartes couldn't change a war of the size the Imperium is fighting. There's too few of them. A million of them spread thinly across the entire universe.

@@chrismath149 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a5mehZWGv9DPkoU.html Watch this for more clarity

@@chrismath149 think China without the one baby law. As it fact that the average hive operates in a early industrial age style and what do you get. A shit life with shit food and shit booze. Basically sex is about the only thing that's not shit in your whole day and more kids = more workers granted more mouths to feed. But if you actually look at the past I would expect the average size of a family in the lower hive to be four or more

@@chrismath149 uhhh but they are falling everyday in 40k millinium as the astrinomicun slowly fades iom is being fucked left and right

ACID BATH! NO FILTHY XENOS IS QUIET ENOUGH TO BYPASS FANATICS!

*grabs ordo xenos* Yes, the genestealer is over there

*muffled xeno screams of pain due to being suffocated by an unending tide of Imperial Guardsman*

P U R G I NG W I T H M Y K I N

*places hand on shoulder* excuse me xeno but I'm afraid you've thrown off The emperor's groove.

*If 40k was actually real and in our lifes* "I need a lot less of 40k in my life"

@@XraynPR A lot less is a understatement

I made it so I do ANYTHING concerning my models every single day. Paint one layer here, fix some details there, cut few bits from the sprews and shave the mould marks, small things that don't require me to take hours off my busy schedule. Honestly, it works way better than "maybe I'll sit at it for a few hours on the weekend" approach that I had until now.

Shhhhhh if gw hears you we'll end up with another the beast arises because reasons. >__

@@Snorlaxx64 Might be getting there already with GAZKULL MAG URUK TRAKA!!!!'s WAAAAGH!!!!

I would love a game like this

If you make it text-based it wouldn't be that hard or expensive to make. Basically you have a UI of resources and stuff and then you just get reports like "Planet X has ceased all communications." and a set of responses you can select from.

I guess modes (Normal, Hard, Ultra-Hard) may depend on what kind of world you choose. And it won't be necessarily obvious.

do you mean ck2 but in warhammer 40k

Stellaris+ Supreme Commander+ X3 reunion + Civ VI+ Sins of a solar empire......what else have a I forgotten...

Just wait until the imperium decides to really wipe out the tau. Its only a matter of time until those blueberries are wiped out.

@@gerardclarke1001 It's almost as if the Tau are ready to be nuked in case their sales figures drop...

Adam Redmayne the Tau exist by the Grace of Chaos and the Tyranids

The Imperium will never wipe out the Tau, they're not a sufficient threat.

Let’s be fair: the imperium might not even need to do anything. Between Tau initiating warp travel for the first time in their history via the startide nexus ... without geller fields. Or even astropaths. Because they just reversed engineered an imperial warp engine, but didn’t know anything about what is needed besides it for warp travel to work ... Good god I was laughing so hard when reading that bit of new lore, FINALY gw fucks over the tau like they deserve and should have been several times already. But yes, between a major nid tendril heading for them and their warp travel experiments having drawn the eyes pf mortarion and his jolly legion of nice guys ... the tau are in one gigantic clusterfuck.

And the Astartes web series the single best depiction of Space Marines ever made.

The video game isnt bad either

I agree, I thought that was a nice little easter egg of how the Administratum works.

I just smile at the fact that the first thing they go to on the list of what to do in the face of an attack is exterminatus. But that is the Imperium we all know and (are mandated to) love.

Strategic Value Absolute!

lmao

I'm not even a fan per se (I might be if I found a 40k game that allowed me to immerse myself), but I was wondering about the choice in words as well. I remember Arch's Tau video where the story goes: Tau capture a planet. Prepare for counterattack over a decade. Eventually shrug and move on. Several decades later Imperium shows up and starts purging planets.

well, considering everything in 40k is on an obscene scale, it could technically be considered proportional

@@Wyzai that's pretty quick for such a large empire with such a small threat. Tau could take a few hundred systems before the imperium even noticed any effect at all. Especially as it's only fringe worlds the Tau can get wasy access to. God help the Tau if they try and poke a Chapter or Forge World.

There is no overkill, only the amount of force needed to insure the target is dead the first time.

Indeed. Especially if you think you have a chance to win against a weaker opponent while neighbouring a larger empire.

Same. I like playing tall to, with a few specialized planets producing research/alloys/consumer goods. Other times I like to blob out. And attack with a lot of shit corvettes. Drown them in bodies

In one war, I lost 2/3 of my empire, but still won the war They never took any key systems, so I was able to counterattack effectively against their now undefended systems Their fleet couldn't return in time to save their empire

Cleanse. Purge. Kill.

In the name of the Emperor, let none survive!

@ŇøHă Ģ. is your Emperah THE EMPERAHH? (suspicious look).

I sometimes wish i could also purge xenos (refugees), kill heretics (fools who waste good booze) and burn witches (hippies)...

Purging with my kin The blood shed so surreal Gore on reved chainswords.

What do you mean "absolutely nobody"? I've been wondering how the Imperium organized such responses for a while.

@@Matihood1 its a shitty meme that needs to die as its completely pointless

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He's building to something.

* --bigger-- actual problems

@@hectorandem2944 If you don't think a communist infestation on hundreds of worlds counts as a problem, you and I should likely have a chat alongside my old buddy mr.Five-seveN and his 20 questions.

Expect that one time.

Terenin It’s like a little over a hundred planets. That’s like a sector at best. It barely qualifies as a problem.

@@Terenin besides the fact that they aren't actually communist (more of a hardcore utilitarian oligarchy) the tau empire is like a honey badger, if you fuck off and ignore it- its mostly content to do its honey badger things and wont piss on you to much; however, if you try to hit it with a stick (or god forbid shoot the damn thing) it will fuck you up ruthlessly. Now the imperium is more than capable of humanly removing (read: send millions of men, women, and children, along with thousands of genetically mutated and brainwashed child soldiers to their deaths against a foe that is so far ahead of them technologically it isn't even funny till eventually the tidal wave of corpses collapses on the enemy position and suffocates them) the tau empire... but why? We have two extinction level events rampaging around the galaxy at any given time, constant revolts, empire wide destabilization and the entire galaxy was literally sliced in two and now daemons are hemorrhaging into real space and fucking the imperium raw. what are the tau doing? they are mostly happy to sit in their corner and deal with an active rebellion. compared to a galaxy spanning rip in reality and a ruthlessly efficient hivemind scouring world after world, the tau barely register as a footnote. All of this coming from a tau player btw

There are a lot bigger threats than the communist blue berries

I want to see Yarrick fight the Hulk.

Well it would be fun to watch for the 15 or so minutes that it lasts xD

@@Phenixtri I don't know man. 40k has crazy shit, but comic-book heros are so OP that they have to be ret-cond every few years.

*ASTARTES!* assemble...

I love the Avengers, but they would need to make a hundred clones of themselves to stop a Black Crusade, and even then they could not stop an Exterminatus.

B-but ... arch doesnt know what a light year is,or he assumes WE dont know what a light year is

@@popeconstantine8839 I dunno, maybe he just doesn't like using light years since people can't quite.... comprehend that kind of distance. Yeah, everyone knows that a light year is a really big measure of distance but can't quite imagine the sheer scale of it.

@@therealist3495 and that lost me lol. Whats that on miles? After that i think i can grasp how big OUR solar system is, not just the Imperium

@@joshuasitzema9920 one Astronomical Unit (AU for short) is approximately 93 million miles. So this unit of measure multiplied by 46,000 is... to put it briefly, really, really, REALLY fucking huge.

Except for Mars.

There's one fuck of a lot missing. I see a couple hundred systems, not the millions you should end up seeing.

Anyone know how I can find this map that doesn't have only 5 pixels?

@@codyopperman5930 stop looking at the Tau map?

In this Case, the dots are important planets..

dislike bots are just as real as like and sub bots sadly haha

If you upload a video and there are no dislikes something has gone wrong in the upload

it is as of now up to 37 dislikes.

i feel like a mix of Sins of a solar Empire combat mixed with Stellaris style scope would make a excellent 40k space game, though i still NEED a fucking Wargame style 40k game, just imagine it man...

I wouldn't mind a 4X game... No Stellaris 40k mod doesn't count.

one interesting idea I had was a planetary Governor simulator. You need to run your planet, make sure to feed the masses all while fighting the greatest enemies of man: xenos, heretics and worst of all *bureaucracy*

@@adamredmayne1326 Hear me out here: Stellaris + SoaSE + Homeworld in a Warhammer40k setting

@@XraynPR Stellaris for the battle map mixed with SoaSE and Homeworld with the mass scale and zoom of SoaSE, dear god, it's...it's beautiful *weeps*

Spotted the Slaaneshi heretic... The Sororitas will be with you shortly to administer the proper punishment. Please stand by. -I suggest hiding the dirty smut mags featuring "Battle sisters" littering your hab unit, or else they'll probably have you turned into a toilet-cleaning servitor.-

@@internetzenmaster8952 Sororitas: *Strangling heretic* Heretic: Oh Mama, harder! Sororitas: What? Heretic: What?

Kinda like Russia's macro economy

Unless the Administratum dislikes the direction of the avalanche, at which point you suddenly find your next shipment of ordnance is a container with a single note that says "IOU" and has a drawing of a middle finger or, knowing the imperium, an actual severed hand with it's middle finger raised.

Most definitely the king of scrubs

Okay that’s just stupid lol. Arch videos aren’t worth your day at work..

No no you must work to finance our lore dealer!

The life of the One Percent ™.

I as a Trucker have the luxury of listening to Arch whenever I want, be it as I work or not.

It's still baffling, but now we have a clearer picture of why.

*laughs in biomass*

*laughs in tombworld*

*Laughs in heresy*

Nah Astartes are to few more like real life Spec Ops .... Guardmans... milions of them. Good joke tho

PURGING WITH MY KIN

Are you shocked? After all Vulcan has part Orc soul in him now

Schinak and appalled. 🤠

I blame Clancy.

@@elysiankentarchy1531 fucking Clancy

Its got a point tho, why would i go to war and die for you if you don't even pay me

Not particularly, no. Maybe in a decade or two when I actually run out of lore videos, but so far I'm good.

@@Wyzai you missing out on the joy of it

Occasionally at work I will claim things I need "In the name of the Emperor!'' People have stopped looking at me funny at this point.

@@robertdubois3448 in his name it shall be so fantastic. If they don't just exterminatus can be called if you fail to comply with the will of the emporor I but the will give full pay and the rest of the day off unless they are a Chao worshiper then you are just gonna have to glass the whole place jut to be safe.

There not attacks there blessings

Load the gas rounds the infantry needs a smoke screen that makes the xeno's scream. +happy gas mask noise from 120 artillery company+

Are you objecting to seeing BOTH Holy Terra and Mars in the same picture? HERETIC!

@@yochaiwyss3843 No, I am pointing out the heresy of misspelling the most holy area of the Imperium.

Good thing I checked the comments before pointing this out myself. At first I wondered if this was a deliberate 40k thing I had just overlooked all these years.

Emperor is love, Emperor is life.

Toshiba1177 victory is life....oh sorry wrong universe

Cut it and it makes you cry...

But imagine if they militarized into a proper war machine. Galactic-scale industrial warfare. Ah~ if only Horus didnt do a dumb.

Even better, imagine if the Emperor had been able to complete the Human Webway, station a few Astartes chapters and elite guard regiments at junctions where they can act as a rapid response force. Not only that the commerce and trade benefits of rapid, stable warp transit. You'd still need the Navy yo operate in the normal warp because I don't think they can fit through the Webway, but it would have made the Imperium of Man an absolute juggernaut.

@@TheBestestKitty perhaps, but as it stands pre-Roboutte's comeback the Imperium was dying a death to a million cuts, it might have taken tens of thousands of years more but they were doomed if things didn't change.

Mysterio: "Now _this_ is an Avengers™ Level Threat." Imperial Guardsmen: *"B R U H"* 🤦‍♂️🤣

@@RaithSienar that is true, my "what if" amounts to little more than wishful thinking sadly.

Maybe it's different when spelled in Hihg Gohtic?

@@phreakazoith2237 right. I am a commoner and dont understand important-people-speak.

Like the Tyranids or the Tau’s idealistic vision of itself ? Or if you think of a metaphorical singular organism, than Orks too ? And I guess Chaos is just that but literally ?

Yes and no. There are the old numbers given by battlefleet goth which are admittedly smalll but those are specifically vessels under the direct command of the imperial navy. That's not everything the imperium has (astartes ships, various orders, various noble families have their own fleets, planetary fleets can be quite large as well, etc) and those numbers are outdated lore but it should also be noted that even the 'small' ships in 40k aren't small. The imperium tends to go for quality over quantity in terms of its fleets. If it needs quanitity it requisitions merchant vessels or brings in a rogue trader's fleet to act as escorts. The imperium's void fighters are also not small either and again, they prefer quality over quantity.

@@laurie1183 i know they are not small in size but when ever i hear about a battle is hundreds of ships which is tiny compared to what a galactic empire and its resources and manufacturing capability can do

@@viorelviorel2324 A galactic empire that's fighting millions of wars has to divide its resources a wee bit. Plus most of the imperium isn't fully mobilised and what is fully mobilised tends to be somewhat inefficient because they can't just use machines to manufacture everything like we do since AI reliably goes fucking batshit in 40K what with it having zero warp resistance.

@RLS0812 they still build new ships it just takes a painfuly long time

I always think of it like this, every chapter has a fleet of maybe 50-100, with some like the Ultramarines, Dark Angel's, and Black Templars having 200-1000(1000 is more for the Templars) that's including Capotal Ships, and Support vessels. Now we can assume the Imperial Navy as a whole has direct command of at least 1500 to 3000, maybe more. Mechanicus have there own fleets of similar size to the Navy. And the SoB have fleets similar in size to the Astartes. Now finally we have the remainders, Rouge Trader fleets, PDF fleets, and random small merchant fleets. Rouge Traders, if rich enough and there are likely a few hundred who are, have fleets numbering 25 fighting Ships, and a gaggle of support vessels, none larger than a large Battlecruiser, plus what ever number there are of Rouge Traders, who all have at least 1 ship. PDF fleets can number between 5-25, depending on wealth and importance. Most planets however may only have 1 ship, if any at all. Then there are merchants, with similar figures to the Rouge Traders. The inquisition likely has a fleet of 1500-3000 like the Mechanicus and Navy, due to importance, and then there are the Black Ships, which indeed number to at least 5000(no support vessels included). So we could see a figure of maybe 10k or more if the Imperium was to muster every ship in one place. I have no idea if this is small or not, but I do know the US Navy has over 500 vessels, and is the largest on earth at this time. So in my head that's a lot of ships.

Joseph Mottram “millions” if it got so bad that the imperium launched a crusade the casualties for humans would be in the hundreds of trillions maybe even a few quadtrillion

@@alvinlin8140 I try to avoid looking stupid for overestimating, and instead get called out for underestimating. Figures. 😂

Lives are cheap, that infrastructure is needed to deliver goods to 12 other systems. Quarterly.

@@IRMentat Indeed, noble Lord. Indeed, quite so.

Trade in lives so that you can trade in goods. Sounds legit.

@@pronoydutta614 And a promising currency, too.

Milton Friedman has entered the chat.

Now you know why the Emperor rests

"He who defends everything, defends nothing." - Frederick the great.

"Overspecialize and breed in weakness." Internet cookie if you can tell me where that quote comes from.

That's the joke, I guess.

Only when unified under the Glorious God Emperor, also no mutants!

"If we all reacted the same way, we'd be predictable, and there's always more than one way to view a situation. What's true for the group is also true for the individual. It's simple: overspecialize, and you breed in weakness. It's slow death." -Major Motoko Kusanagi Anyone who hasn't seen Ghost in the Shell needs to make time for it.

Cory Ray GITS. Probably other places as well.

Think this is the one. i.redd.it/w6bvayum8hvz.jpg

@RLS0812 Maybe not, however, it gives a general idea as to the layout of the Imperium.

@RLS0812 there's a fair few imperium maps in google images, should be one that's more accurate but I don't know much of the geography of 40k so can't say for sure.

Its one of the worst maps ive ever laid eyes upon

@@popeconstantine8839 Yeah, there were definitely a lot of maps that looked prettier, but didn't have as many planets.

But I'm still basically 10 times the tau empire.

That´d be slaanesh in... a very literal sense of "sexual" and "violence".

🤔 *THE DARK ELDAR WANT TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION* 🤔

@@hectorandem2944 everybody want to know the dark eldars location as well

wait what did Vee do?

What giant rip in the galaxy. (Cocks Bolter)

TopgunProductions the only giant rip is the lack of skilled writers in GW employ.

RIP 40k of yore

@@danielboyas7645 ah then why are you watching this if you dont play anymore?

The Xanax system is a designated stress-free zone. 😎