470lbs Belt and Lever Medieval crossbow

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This medieval style plain soldiers crossbow (I call it a munition style crossbow) is 470lbs and is set up to use both a goats foot lever and a spanning belt to load.
As far as I know this was not a usual arrangement at the time, but the customer required this adaptation.
The crossbow has two interesting features, the first is the doubler pulley on the belt and the other is the steel bow limb that is dressed up to look like a composite bow.
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@JamesRPatrick
@JamesRPatrick 4 жыл бұрын
That lever makes it look like a walk in the park compared to the belt.
@ToadrixAce
@ToadrixAce 4 жыл бұрын
its sad to me that you only have 168k rn, this is easily a 1mil worthy channel
@brianreddeman951
@brianreddeman951 4 жыл бұрын
Keep sharing and liking; everyone starts at zero and goes up the more the word spreads. :)
@garrenbrooks9703
@garrenbrooks9703 4 жыл бұрын
Luckily every subscriber like me is worth 10,000 subscribers
@SuperFunkmachine
@SuperFunkmachine 4 жыл бұрын
Join the club.
@troywalker8078
@troywalker8078 4 жыл бұрын
I would subscribe more than once if I could......
@giuseppepuglisi3980
@giuseppepuglisi3980 4 жыл бұрын
Still, the channel has grown quite a bit. I remember following Tod a some years ago when he had just a few thousand subs. I always hoped he could take off one day.
@kylehayden3113
@kylehayden3113 4 жыл бұрын
The sound, holy shit. You can hear the power behind the bolt. would not want to be on the receiving end of that
@patrickmccurry1563
@patrickmccurry1563 4 жыл бұрын
But remember with historical short draw lengths, the actual energy imparted by such a monster is "only" on par with a war archer's bow. Both lethal, but not as different as you'd assume just knowing the poundage.
@Tekvorian
@Tekvorian 4 жыл бұрын
They were built to pierce plate armor. So yeah, lots of force behind such a bolt.
@hakuslayer7918
@hakuslayer7918 4 жыл бұрын
​@@Tekvorian fyi well-made Plate will maybe get a dent from this crossbow.it's the lucky shots into the gaps and through chain+padding that have a chance to pierce flesh. Tod has a video called arrows vs armour where he tested out a Warbow being shot by a professional archer, with arrows made by a professional fletcher, arrowheads made by a professional smith, and a piece of chest plate alos made by a pro. it's really quite amazing how much protection plate gives.
@warrax111
@warrax111 4 жыл бұрын
470 lb crossbow is really not enough for plate armor. For plate, you you need 1200 lbs great crossbows. It can generate up to 500 Joules of energy, in comparation of 150 Joules, what strongest War Bows can get.
@palladin9479
@palladin9479 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tekvorian It won't piece plate armor, not with the common metallurgy available back then. Crossbow bolts were made to pierce mail and gambeson, which they did to great effect. Plate also wasn't that common anyway, only really wealthy knights could afford a set of plate to be made for them, and yes plate had to be custom fitted for the wearer.
@ValendianCrafts
@ValendianCrafts 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love the grain on that tiller. Beautiful piece.
@tekannon7803
@tekannon7803 4 жыл бұрын
Dear Tod, The crossbow's got me completely surprised by its power, the way the trigger and other parts have to be done, and really just how this was used in battle. Suddenly the 14th century is looking like the renaissance across the board: Complex art, weapons, architecture, lenses, mirrors, it's amazing how your work brings to life what it must have been to be a soldier in those times. The powerful crossbow must have been what the machine guns were in the trenches in WW I: an equalizer, a weapon of fear. Now the 14th and 15th century speaks to us through the crossbow you built.
@wolfgirl535
@wolfgirl535 4 жыл бұрын
Your work is so beautiful, and there is infinite value in what you do and these videos you make. Thank you for your efforts.
@joebloggs7956
@joebloggs7956 4 жыл бұрын
Nice way to put it 😁
@user-lguqrux
@user-lguqrux 4 жыл бұрын
Jeez. ... I kindof can't believe this quality of info just exists on youtube... free, if you know where to find it. Long live the internet! (And kind, passionate chaps like Tod!) Anyhow... thanks ever so much for the video, it seems really, truly top tier. I mean it. 😊
@AKlover
@AKlover 4 жыл бұрын
Watching a crossbow get operated reaffirms my appreciation for gunpowder.
@ME-hm7zm
@ME-hm7zm 4 жыл бұрын
Dunno, have you tried a matchlock before? That's its own set of problems.
@AKlover
@AKlover 4 жыл бұрын
@@ME-hm7zm Matchlock No, flintlock yes. Crossbows at those poundages probably are not meaningfully faster than a flintlock. Unless you are going the "Crew Served" route.
@shonny61
@shonny61 4 жыл бұрын
That first shot toward the camera startled me even though I was expecting it. Close! Great video as always.
@brianreddeman951
@brianreddeman951 4 жыл бұрын
Jaw dropping beautiful bow Todd considers "munition grade." One lucky customer. :)
@kathleenfoster9887
@kathleenfoster9887 Жыл бұрын
Again as always beautiful work
@oscardavis9313
@oscardavis9313 4 жыл бұрын
Love your content!
@sealthesymbol419
@sealthesymbol419 4 жыл бұрын
It's been too long without seeing Tod shooting a crossbow.
@justsomeguy3931
@justsomeguy3931 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work, as always
@rippertrain
@rippertrain 4 жыл бұрын
I cant get enough of this channel. Cheers from canada
@jakedee4117
@jakedee4117 4 жыл бұрын
When you first got out that belt I thought "Good Lord, Tod's had a hernia !"
@SuperFunkmachine
@SuperFunkmachine 4 жыл бұрын
It looks like he's staring one drawing it.
@erikaushamburg8279
@erikaushamburg8279 4 жыл бұрын
I always like it to see whats new on this channel. Just very interesting stuff without too much drama! Have a good one!
@Barberserk
@Barberserk 4 жыл бұрын
Tod is drama-free, one more reason to like his channel! Sometimes he adds some humor but, only glimpses, he tries to keep this very professional. :)
@fancymcclean6210
@fancymcclean6210 2 жыл бұрын
Always in awe of the craftmanship exhibited by Tod and others of the ilk. Breathtakingly simple in conception but amazingly skilled in construction. Absolutely wonderful. Flaxen Saxon.
@heyseed2292
@heyseed2292 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing work Tod, you rule I always look forward to new videos from you! That goats foot lever is f'n awesome, I can't believe how much power you can get out of it and how fast/easy it is in comparison to the cranequin or the belt. I'd also like to hear your thoughts on Joerg Sprave's bow magazine-whatever-system
@Steve-ps6qw
@Steve-ps6qw 4 жыл бұрын
You have an awesome channel!! Love all the work you do!
@redpillgermany2162
@redpillgermany2162 4 жыл бұрын
Really excellent video!
@coddmodd
@coddmodd 4 жыл бұрын
Just earned a new subscriber, very cool stuff from the making to the shooting.
@russellcraven251
@russellcraven251 4 жыл бұрын
Love your channel!!
@brotherandythesage
@brotherandythesage 4 жыл бұрын
I always learn something from Tod. (And he crafts beautiful items!)
@arnhemseptember2009
@arnhemseptember2009 4 жыл бұрын
Again a great piece of outstanding craftsmanship. I know which system I prefer too....
@Sean_Coyne
@Sean_Coyne 4 жыл бұрын
Blimey, I thought you were going to do yourself a mischief using the spanning belt near the end, Tod; no wonder you don't like them. It also made me wonder how often crossbowmen did a face plant trying to get one foot through the stirrup. Sort of like me trying to get my pants on in the morning. :-)
@Brandeena233
@Brandeena233 4 жыл бұрын
Love this channel.
@SuperFunkmachine
@SuperFunkmachine 4 жыл бұрын
That draw with belt, i'd bet that you'd be knackered after a dozen of them. The physical cost of using a bow is something that people forget, to draw a heavy bow needs a lot of energy. If you have to draw a bow 20, 30m 40 times suddenly you're not after raw power but repeatable shots.
@dannthenitroman
@dannthenitroman 4 жыл бұрын
The goats foot is spectacular engineering.
@loicbazin1053
@loicbazin1053 4 жыл бұрын
You call it plain, I say that it is gorgeous.
@Meevious
@Meevious 4 жыл бұрын
I agree! The stock is by far and away the nicest part. =)
@xendrosx3671
@xendrosx3671 4 жыл бұрын
great work thank you
@blindoutlaw
@blindoutlaw 4 жыл бұрын
Yeh I’d go the goat leaver over the belt. Maybe with something attached to the leaver so it hangs from my belt when not in use instead of constantly ditching it on the ground
@christopherrobbins3715
@christopherrobbins3715 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome and informational too. That's wild
@superwhuffo1
@superwhuffo1 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid.. I used to be good at archery and I always loved crossbows..I still own one along with my compound bow.
@budahbaba7856
@budahbaba7856 4 жыл бұрын
Tod, the grain pattern of that crossbow is beautiful!
@kemosabikeemanart
@kemosabikeemanart 4 жыл бұрын
Right On More T.W. Uploads!
@Intranetusa
@Intranetusa 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I believe the Romans stationed garrisons of Syrian archers with composite bows in Britain for quite some time. So while wet weather may have caused some maintenance concerns for composite materials, it was not an insurmountable problem and could be minimized.
@tummy_fritters
@tummy_fritters 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video of how you construct a faux composite prod!
@victorbooth2453
@victorbooth2453 4 жыл бұрын
Talented guy, well done.
@michaelm3691
@michaelm3691 4 жыл бұрын
Tod, one word: *BALLISTAS!*
@tuomopoika
@tuomopoika 4 жыл бұрын
That looks like kind a stuff that hurts your back easily if you do not practive with lighter weights first.
@kswas2784
@kswas2784 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, my lower back hurts just from watching you use that belt!
@thexbigxgreen
@thexbigxgreen 4 жыл бұрын
I only just understood how the latching system works, that the string is able to bypass the catch, and by hitting the nut at the back it swivels the catch up into position. That is so damn smart, very cool!
@GUNTHER1
@GUNTHER1 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!!
@frequencydecline5250
@frequencydecline5250 4 жыл бұрын
That spanning belt! One size fits all...and then some.
@tsmspace
@tsmspace 4 жыл бұрын
This was a very interesting video. I had never seen either of those mechanisms (at least in my adult memory, I saw many many museums as a child and I'm sure that at least the spanning belt I've seen before, but it counts as never seen before for any sake of conversation). I kept thinking I wish you should try to find someone who could make a demo composite crossbow for you, someone who already does something like that and wouldn't have to work so hard to do it, just for the show and tell of having one. I understand you're hoping to sell these articles but I really think your channel has been good for general museum value.
@tsmspace
@tsmspace 4 жыл бұрын
also, I would really be interested to see how you tie up those bows.
@GermanSwordMaster
@GermanSwordMaster 4 жыл бұрын
I thought of bichlers work when you mentioned the painted bows ^^
@Altonahk
@Altonahk 4 жыл бұрын
I'd put a belt pouch to put that piece of metal into, so i could run without it swinging around.
@MarikHavair
@MarikHavair 4 жыл бұрын
@Giggitee O'Yeah I can just imagine the pelvic thrusting competitions, to see who could whack the other guys nutsac first/hardest.
@aticuss
@aticuss 4 жыл бұрын
Magnificent.
@wingnutbert9685
@wingnutbert9685 4 жыл бұрын
Any chance on a video of your process and making steel crossbow limbs? Love to know a good way to do it at the home shop.
@Steve-ps6qw
@Steve-ps6qw 4 жыл бұрын
yea, I'm with you on the belt....forget that thing! The claw device (forgot what it is called) is definitely the way to go, for me at least.
@dgundeadforge17
@dgundeadforge17 4 жыл бұрын
Can you possibly do a video on how medieval crossbow makers were able to physically string the bows? I have seen that you have a modern press but what did people do with only hand tools, pulleys, gears. Would be a really good video.
@dgundeadforge17
@dgundeadforge17 4 жыл бұрын
@@tods_workshopis that how they tillered the bow
@Trickydickysticky
@Trickydickysticky 4 жыл бұрын
That last shot sounded like lazer tag.
@Kim-the-Dane-1952
@Kim-the-Dane-1952 4 жыл бұрын
I checked out Andreas Bichler as you suggested. Yes those are incredibly good looking bows. Have a look the beautiful shield he also constructs as a target for his 1200 lb bow. Cannot believe he shot a hole in it. I see someone below commenting on your subscriber number. Don't feel bad. Andreas only has 700!
@ouzoist
@ouzoist 4 жыл бұрын
Steel crossbow was not popular in central Europe for the same reasons composite wasn't in England. The weather. You simply could not hatch it in winter as steel gets harder when cold.
@janstanek5544
@janstanek5544 3 жыл бұрын
Is it only me, but do you also hit the table with your fist at the intro when the sound of the hammer emerges? :D :D :D :D
@Just_A_Dude
@Just_A_Dude 4 жыл бұрын
So, what I'm getting from this is that the goat's foot lever is basically inherently superior to the spanning belt in almost every way?
@mikieswart
@mikieswart 4 жыл бұрын
in almost every way except causing back problems
@Meevious
@Meevious 4 жыл бұрын
A spanning belt can be extremely inexpensive and lightweight, while a goat's foot lever is solid steel (heavy and expensive) and needs an expert to make it.
@thefeatheredfrontiersman8135
@thefeatheredfrontiersman8135 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a bowyer from Pocatello Idaho. You sir are one of my new favorites. If there is anything you could tell me about, it's how to find my first yew staves. It is quite a mysterious wood. Mabie you might know someone or something?
@VeraTR909
@VeraTR909 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely see why one would prefer the 'goat's foot' lever, but maybe a trained person with a lighter bow could be faster with the belt. Great video and gorgeous (albeit practical) crossbow anyways!
@mtodd4723
@mtodd4723 4 жыл бұрын
COOL !
@rob9472
@rob9472 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful craftsmanship as usual Tod, Which spanning method would have been the most cost/time effective to produce in times of war? I would assume the goats foot it seems like it would be much easier to create compared against the pulleys and leather work required for the belt, That said the leather work would have probably been done by somebody and sent to the smith.
@ScottChristianSimmons
@ScottChristianSimmons 4 жыл бұрын
The goat's foot looks faster and easier to use, and less cumbersome to carry, than the spanning belt. Why on earth did anyone ever use the belt?
@JanoTuotanto
@JanoTuotanto 4 жыл бұрын
Goat foot is much more tiring to use. It only strains muscles of one arm.
@jhndecolorado7627
@jhndecolorado7627 4 жыл бұрын
JanoTuotanto, it’s also more resource intensive with the prerequisite of an expert smith and lots of metal available. A gaffe lever would’ve offset it by just using wood but still would require a skilled craftsman. The belt hook & pulley method was earlier but didn’t require as many resources or skills to make.
@fejimush
@fejimush 4 жыл бұрын
Amazingly interesting. Back in the day, I wonder how many nut sacks were wrecked if something snapped with the belt. The lever seems a much more reasonable solution.
@londiniumarmoury7037
@londiniumarmoury7037 4 жыл бұрын
Makes a beautiful release sound. I don't think i've ever heard a crossbow make that noise before. What is causing that lovely sound exactly in the mechanics?
@Aconitum_napellus
@Aconitum_napellus 4 жыл бұрын
One day I hope to be able to afford a bow like this.
@CognosSquare
@CognosSquare 4 жыл бұрын
Tod could you pleasedo a video on some of the medieval glues
@wrxs1781
@wrxs1781 4 жыл бұрын
Well done Todd, in the era this crossbow was used say in battle, what was the preferred way of cocking the bow. Also do you have a replica of an original cocking lever or device,..Thanks, Richard.
@lowlandnobleman6746
@lowlandnobleman6746 4 жыл бұрын
I love 14th century crossbows.
@RemusKingOfRome
@RemusKingOfRome 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Did they ever build a double / triple bow x-bow ?
@robbikebob
@robbikebob 4 жыл бұрын
The goat's foot looks so easy. I think I'd rather just throw the entire bow at the enemy rather than use the spanning belt! The noises Todd made told you everything you need to know about using the spanning belt! 😵
@jeanphilippecroteau
@jeanphilippecroteau 4 жыл бұрын
I'm curious, how do you test the force of the crossbow? :D Awesome video, as always!
@Finkeren
@Finkeren 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure he shows in one of his videos, but basically he puts the bow upright in a vince, connects a hanging scale to the string and measures the weight needed to draw the string to draw length. Simple. As for how much energy the bolt carries when fired, he has done some test shooting with a high speed camera to determine the initial "muzzle" velocity.
@andresz2307
@andresz2307 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Tod! I am making a hand made crossbow, but i have some stumblings. How do You make the string? Do You have any vídeo or link about that theme? Thanks, great channel and sorry for My English.
@duchi882
@duchi882 4 жыл бұрын
*The thing I hate about your channel* _is that it doesn't have enough subs_
@GadgetMart
@GadgetMart 4 жыл бұрын
These high draw weight crossbows seem very weak with their shots. Any chance of some ballistic gel tests vs longbows?
@Procrastinater
@Procrastinater 4 жыл бұрын
So, if you have a really heavy, 500lbs to 1000lbs crossbow shooting a bolt with a long, needle tipped tempered head, think like a pilum tip. Would it pierce plate armor?
@joebloggs7956
@joebloggs7956 4 жыл бұрын
Elegant, the bow is not centre. Good effort on the vid
@ironpirate8
@ironpirate8 4 жыл бұрын
The goat's foot lever looks so slick by comparison. Which genius thought that up?
@The214thRabidFangirl
@The214thRabidFangirl 4 жыл бұрын
That second thunk was sooo much louder.
@Vespuchian
@Vespuchian 4 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, were there many crossbows where a goats foot sort of tool was built into the stock? I imagine a crossbow that could be redrawn without having to use a separate tool might be useful in birding.
@Vespuchian
@Vespuchian 4 жыл бұрын
@@tods_workshop Thanks for the reply! I figured that would be the case but I also assumed someone would have tried at some point. By chance have you done a crossbow/musket comparison test?
@extrastuff9463
@extrastuff9463 4 жыл бұрын
@@Vespuchian Now you made me think what a scaled up balestrino would look like! I'm guessing it could technically maybe be made back then, but prohibitively expensive and offering no real benefits (other than no seperate bits to span it).
@JanoTuotanto
@JanoTuotanto 4 жыл бұрын
For full size ballestrino see Payne-Gallwey page 82
@SekiberiusWelkesh
@SekiberiusWelkesh 4 жыл бұрын
i want to learn how to make this type of stuff.
@scotthuber6361
@scotthuber6361 4 жыл бұрын
I hope you don't mind asking, was reading a Bernanrd Cornwell book about the battle of Crecy, what is the effect in reality of shooting a wet crossbow or long bow.? I would be interested in a comparison.
@cornerstonecreations92
@cornerstonecreations92 4 жыл бұрын
What are your sources for steel bow introduction in time? Looking for good info for an upcoming project.
@Sweaty_Ken
@Sweaty_Ken 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone got a link for the German crossbow maker he mentioned?
@peternystrom921
@peternystrom921 4 жыл бұрын
Good video, my thought. Atleast you wont loose our belt. The lever you can loose instantly and then you are "buggered" :)
@davidm1563
@davidm1563 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Tod, awesome video once again also I gotta say out of all the crossbows you make my favorite always end up being these so called munitions crossbows, they just look so incredible! Question for you though and that is do you know what sort of poundage weight crossbow would be required to pierce any particular type of armour (be it gaberson, maile or plate) at a "normal" range and if so what did the higher draw weight bows provide over others? possibly additional range or just more stopping power?
@davidm1563
@davidm1563 4 жыл бұрын
Tod's Workshop all good mate! Just one of those things that makes you think. Oh and if we are allowed to know but will you be doing anymore longbow tests with the guys this year or will those be coming in 2020?
@davidm1563
@davidm1563 4 жыл бұрын
Tod's Workshop on your next video advertise a Gofundme to raise funds for additional testing mate. I’ll happily chuck in a $20 right away to get things started.
@VashGames
@VashGames 4 жыл бұрын
Spanning belt - Adding dangly bits to crossbowmen.
@benjaminabbott4705
@benjaminabbott4705 4 жыл бұрын
Spanning powerful crossbows from the belt appears as a key feat of strength in El Victorial (15th century). I hope someday we learn more about the details & people take crossbows as seriously as they take longbows. What could the crossbow equivalent of Joe Gibbs manage?
@2bingtim
@2bingtim 3 жыл бұрын
Due to the tiny draw length/power stroke of crossbows compared to normal hand bows(+more massive limbs, thicker & more massive strings, friction of the string across the tiller), they use all that energy far less efficiently than a hand/long bow. If Tod's crossbow has a 5" draw length & 470lb draw weight, that's equivellent to a c98lb longbow drawn to 30" with a 6" brace height.
@entropy11
@entropy11 4 жыл бұрын
What's the noisiest part of this setup? Seems like the nut? I bet something could be done to quiet that without impacting operation.
4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how precise the shape of goats-foot lever needs to be - how do you draw it?
@vaporachetv
@vaporachetv 4 жыл бұрын
10:44 laser sound effect
@codycraddock4975
@codycraddock4975 4 жыл бұрын
If i go back he says.... Is Tod a Time Traveler?
@TheMeditron
@TheMeditron 4 жыл бұрын
Never thought about what the loop at the front of a crossbow was for. Very interesting! Btw now that you mentioned the composite bow... Had no idea such a thing existed! Going to research into that
@JimOutofControl
@JimOutofControl 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to know the fps and weight of the bolts.
@snafu2350
@snafu2350 4 жыл бұрын
Firstly, WRT the spans/arms/WHY of a composite bow of any type, wouldn't the glue process imply less durability over time due to different composite layers flexing at different rates, inducing extra sheer stress along/across that glueline? So eventually composite bows would fall apart over use... unless the glue was elastic in some way once cured (like modern day Copydex, a rubber/latex solution) Secondly, would flaring the stock a little make the bow far more comfortable & easier to use if using the spanning belt (plus incidentally adding slightly to accuracy if shoulder-fired)? A spanning belt can only be used by foot soldiers obviously, so the slight disadvantage of a flared stock if/when used from horseback would be irrelevant (as would the slight weight penalty).. but the rear peg may double as a crude sight too, given a distinct front marker (even if only a paint/dye blob)? Thirdly, is there any internal spring mechanics used within the trigger mechanism? That positive sound when you repositioned the nut prior to demonstrating the spanning belt sounded v much like a sprung pawl engaging..
@Kanner111
@Kanner111 4 жыл бұрын
Spanning belts: fuck that I'm just gonna take the necessary decade off to learn to use a long bow. =/ (Although, that said, shooting a crossbow always looks far less stressful than shooting a longbow.
@AnthusFrostwolf
@AnthusFrostwolf 4 жыл бұрын
did crossbows with a "build-in" goats foot lever exist? like the dawnguard crossbow in skyrim
@GurtTarctor
@GurtTarctor 4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried to make an authentic style composite bow?
@si-sy
@si-sy 4 жыл бұрын
What was the maximum weight a goats foot could load as it looks much faster and easier than a windlass
@penguasakucing8136
@penguasakucing8136 4 жыл бұрын
Look to his previous videos.
@johnmorgan1629
@johnmorgan1629 4 жыл бұрын
Why when watching you draw using that belt, do I get the impression, there were probably a few guys who ended up falsetto, by the end of a battle.
@christophe7723
@christophe7723 4 жыл бұрын
Is it a double poulie? For me it looks like two simple ones, dividing by two the strength and not by four, as double poulies would... Maybe I'm lost somewhere
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