Remember the time when there were only crappy bikes at walmart, but only a few expensive exceptions? When you needed to upgrade everything to get a good bike? This has changed. And I like to think that it is all because of KevCentral.
@vagabond-yj8pn4 жыл бұрын
Sergej Nadaždin I would say so.
@MichaelRei994 жыл бұрын
Sergej Nadaždin it’s still a starter bike it’s not gonna set the world on fire.
@kyleslater52454 жыл бұрын
no but it will set the starter bike world on fire...
@caleballen35114 жыл бұрын
For sure! I'm happy to see Schwinn listening to its buyers and making things better based on what people want.
@MichaelRei994 жыл бұрын
Kyle Slater the starter bike worlds been on fire ever since Walmart came around!!😂
@jomshobbies4 жыл бұрын
Schwinn is getting better and better at making quality and affordable mtb’s well done!
@Basement_CNC4 жыл бұрын
Now they have to make a Lot of them because i'm Not the only one who couldn't get one
@matthewarnspiger6324 жыл бұрын
They use to make really good bikes back in the day in the 90s
@projectbike2773 жыл бұрын
True
@eddieeaves43903 жыл бұрын
They need to step up and do better with the mech choices they use.
@ps4now2063 жыл бұрын
Is this bike internal cable
@jess1ncase4 жыл бұрын
I mean, DP is not an abbreviation I would use.
@KandiKlover4 жыл бұрын
Well I mean if you're not careful when you pop the seat back up it will slam both your clam and booty so it can be accurate one lmao
@mikecleveland8234 жыл бұрын
@J Camp - I never considered that, but I imagine you're right. When the average person gets on WM's website and sees "DP", they will not be thinking about a dropper.
@dummkompf4 жыл бұрын
they knew what they were doing
@cristianitsirc68304 жыл бұрын
why not?
@jnbernard3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Pepper
@erikgiggey47834 жыл бұрын
i find it gratifying to see schwinn making a comeback, they used to be a decent brand. i put many thousands of miles on my old schwinn world. i already have an entry level cannondale otherwise i would grab one of these. mine just doesnt have a dropper post. nor tapered head tube. although it does have the sram nx groupset.
@tarstarkusz4 жыл бұрын
Those Cannondales are nice, but they are also a few hundred more than the LBS Schwinns were. The Searcher, which was a decent quality bike was 400 and the Cannondales are 600.
@erikgiggey47834 жыл бұрын
@@tarstarkusz i bought my cannondale 4 years ago and it was $1000 and i put on the nx group set last year as i wanted to see what all the hoopla was about. my lbs also happens to be close friends. loyalty plays a part sometimes :P
@KandiKlover4 жыл бұрын
Cannondale and Schwinn are both owned by the same company now. Also I have a old Schwinn Stingray chopped that I never maintained the past 15 years and it still rides fine surprisingly.
@tarstarkusz4 жыл бұрын
@@KandiKlover That would explain it then. My LBS was a Schwinn shop and now it is filled with Cannondale. They are nice too. Comes with hydraulic brakes for $600.
@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal29214 жыл бұрын
In 2020 this level of consumer ignorance is unprecedented in history. Schwinn is a sticker or a stenciled painting, and thats all. The varied frames in their supply chain come from other MANUFACTURERS. It isnt related in any way to Schwinn bikes of old.
@paulwuzhere4 жыл бұрын
At this rate in a couple years air forks and hydraulic disc brakes will be found on Schwinns at walmart
@HunterErwinMusic4 жыл бұрын
paulwuzhere What’s funny is I do get that bikes sold at Walmart due to what they have sold for years are under par However the Axum DP that I own it being a different level was bought thru Walmart And also the Rock Shox AIR Fork I bought for it was bought from Walmart as well And the hydraulic Brakes was bought thru Walmart Walmart sells it all now!!! May not be in store but it’s all sold same as a local bike shop that’s for sure !
@OugaBoogaShockwave4 жыл бұрын
air forks i can see in the future hydraulic disc brakes i doubt it, you need need more experience then mechanical disk & i doubt walmart will train the employee for that. Just like you won't see pressfit on a walmart bike.
@Andrew-dm8mk4 жыл бұрын
Would you ? I would!
@lshanw4 жыл бұрын
I said that there would be droppers on Walmart bikes as a joke about a month ago, and here we have it!
@chesterswingjr97964 жыл бұрын
Hunter Erwin Music - I noticed the same thing. I’m looking at getting a Richie Sambora double neck Ovation, that I THOUGHT you could only buy at a music store, and it pops up on goggle that you can buy through Walmart online!!! I wouldn’t buy it from them, because of setting it up, and warranty would probably be a nightmare if something was wrong, but I was shocked you actually CAN buy it there!!!
@timpsheridan4 жыл бұрын
Bought one for my 5’11” 16 year old daughter. Truth be known, I love riding this bike!!! Crazy value for the money and a highly capable bike.
@KandiKlover4 жыл бұрын
Keep it for yourself. If like most teens she just stares at the phone all day she won't even notice hehe
@HunterErwinMusic4 жыл бұрын
I have the same bike Love it In shop right now getting a Rock Shox 30 Gold RL120 mm Tappered, new saddle and Shimano Hydraulic Brakes installed... Great bike Great video And I love the dropper post I had a issue with barrel on seat post got it fixed thou called Schwinn before I got it repaired and they sent me a whole new seat and post to replace a screw well a barrel for a cable !! Told them that all I needed was a new barrel but they said no sending whole setup we don’t have parts. Thanks for doing the video on the bike !
@HunterErwinMusic4 жыл бұрын
Helmetman Gaming That’s next but the one that’s on it seems to be more than fine Added a Chain guide works well and smooth
@junboo87304 жыл бұрын
Hunter Erwin Music How is riding with your upgrades?.
@HunterErwinMusic4 жыл бұрын
Jun Boo Well I pick it up tomorrow so I haven’t tried it with all the upgrades It rode great before the upgrades Fork was a bit on the not good enough side But I got a nice rock Shox For it thou . I went pretty high end for me on it But I lm sure it’s gonna be even better Will keep you updated
@junboo87304 жыл бұрын
Hunter Erwin Music Man congratulations keep us posted. Sweet.
@HanSolo__4 жыл бұрын
With your Rock Shox you can move to 120mm in future. Your bike should work way better downhill. Mark my words! :) I wonder if you have X-Fusion forks and dampers out there in US? As an owner of 2 budget RS air forks, 2 decent low priced SR Suntours I got some riding on X-Fusion fron and rear and Im stoked. I know only one Manitou close to this in performance and its still more expensive even if in the same league.
@raragodzilla4 жыл бұрын
This video is literally on Walmart's website right now, it's in the description, so I think it's safe to say that Walmart watches your videos, keep doing what you do! I honestly think you have a big impact on big box store bikes, especially these days!
@wreckingopossum3 жыл бұрын
Walmart is huge into mountain biking, or at least the CEO of the Walton Family Organization is. He has poured so much money into trails in Bentonville that they compete against Colorado in terms of trails
@Alttabbins4 жыл бұрын
Finally a new video! This is one of the only channels I sub to that I have the notification turned on for.
@KevCentral4 жыл бұрын
Super! Thanks 👍🏼
@david782124 жыл бұрын
I love my dropper... not only is it super useful for obstacles when on trail rides, it’s super useful for “regular” riding on a 29er bike that is more “monster truck” feeling than I really want...Getting off and on is not a big problem, this just makes it that much easier for me.
@ThePoozer694 жыл бұрын
Really wanted to buy one of these, but I truly believe you're the reason they are sold out of both models. You should be very proud of that. Thanks for recommending big box bikes like these that I otherwise wouldn't bother glancing at.
@jamesmeap90934 жыл бұрын
"To me, dropper posts were kind of a novelty" ; I'm with you brother. "I'm rapidly becoming a fan of the dropper post" ; Dang it, why'd you have to go and say that.
@denismacfarlane2554 жыл бұрын
I was the same way until using one for almost two years now...wouldnt go back. I even have a spare in case mine craps out.
@michiganstate1494 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's definitely something you think is a gimmick and not worth it until you start using one and realize you were missing out. I even put one on my mom's cruiser to make it easier to get on and off the bike for here. I won't own another MTB without a dropper.
@konanoobiemaster4 жыл бұрын
@@michiganstate149 me three... i was skeptical until i started using one - couldnt ride without one now
@KandiKlover4 жыл бұрын
I’d love one of those for commuting. I keep my seat a couple inches lower than optimal fit as compromise so I can put my foot down and get on and off easily then stop and raise it to normal so I can climb or pedal into a strong headwind easily.
@ronggearrob96224 жыл бұрын
Can't imagine riding a mountain bike without a dropper post now - single best upgrade I made to my hardtail.
@JFTM_4 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna be honest with you Kev, since I started watching you (a few years ago), I’ve always had bikes in the $3k+ range and they all had high-end components and droppers, but you’ve definitely given me a different view of the lower-end market, and who knows, maybe I’ll even invest in a bike like this one day to see what they’re like. Thanks you all your hard work and always being a quality source of entertainment. Cheers
@RyanMinard4 жыл бұрын
Don’t know about everyone else but every Walmart in a 100 mile radius of my house is completely out of stock of all mountain bikes ...
@aaronanderson86734 жыл бұрын
ryan minard I dealt with this. I started going to my local Walmarts every day. They get bike shipments a few times a week, and sell quite a few of them before they ever hit the rack. Most Walmarts put them together in the garden center, but the ones with smaller Garden centers use the automotive department. Get to know the assemblers, and stop by daily. I got two Boundaries last week that way.
@coryddp72544 жыл бұрын
I ordered online the Axum DP. It's in the bike shop for assembly. The headset lower bearing was damage on arrival. I connected and requested a new piece. The new headset lower bearing arrived today via UPS and I'm taking it to the bike shop in the morning. The bike shop cost me 70 bucks. Can't wait, I just hope I don't fall because I'm too old to heal now
@KandiKlover4 жыл бұрын
Me too. I just went there today and the bike section was cleaned out, are your walmarts also remodeling and removing a lot of the cashiers for self checkouts? Thank god I bought my Boundary when I did a month ago, it was the last one and they never restocked it the whole time.
@mrtru25614 жыл бұрын
Same
@philandchill62014 жыл бұрын
Saaaameeee
@JRdoesIt4 жыл бұрын
This is probably one of the best looking bikes I've seen, I love that frame
@ParkerErisman4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I’ve been waiting for this video. I think the DP model is worth it if you have $500. Although I think bike shops should only be worried if Schwinn starts doing frame sizing.
@KevCentral4 жыл бұрын
Fair point. Perhaps the future will amaze us ☀️
@SavingPvtBryan322 жыл бұрын
@@KevCentral was gonna say, this aged pretty dam good lol.
@jaxknet2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all of your great content Kev. I was leaning toward the regular Axum, simply because that black finish is the most beautiful! But now that the regular Axum is $448 and the DP is still $498, I got the red DP instead after watching this video. You admitting you weren't a dropper guy resonated, as I've never had one, but all those advantages seemed worth second choice of color and only $50 more. Thanks again dude!
@jacobg130productions4 жыл бұрын
I’d pick the DP. One: it’s blue, and I love blue. Two: it has a dropper, that’s one thing you don’t need to buy later. Three: you can build it up into something badass and I’ve already dreamt up a build idea that takes a bit too much advantage of that tapered headset.
@MichaelRei994 жыл бұрын
JacobG130 Productions get a boost front fork so you can take advantage of that tapered head.
@paulkarkorian63774 жыл бұрын
I have 2 wishes : 1- hitting the powerball. 2- seeing Mongoose upgrading the xr pro frame keeping the same design . I guess hitting the powerball numbers is more realistic !!!
@iihungy4 жыл бұрын
I was going to buy the first Axum you reviewed before they went out of stock on the Walmart website. I really hope that they restock soon, but since these are trying times, I'm more than willing to wait
@Damonunit4 жыл бұрын
I was also waiting for it to restock, but my old yard sale trek has seen better days, and were getting into good riding weather here. I purchased a schwinn taff last week and after some adjustments I took it on its first trail ride today. Absolutely great bike. I can't wait to put some more mileage on it.
@greenboys694 жыл бұрын
Why does a Walmart bike have a dropper and my trek doesn’t
@ridvanvejzagic28874 жыл бұрын
Bruh I have a fuel ex let's talk about it
@doomracing55274 жыл бұрын
You probably have a better derailer, maybe hydrolic breaks, or better rims. That all costs, so you dont get a droper post. Schwinn is trying to make a comback finaly. Give the options you want an less quality parts to get you by. Hopefully Schwinn will be a direct compeater with other lower end bikes that have a good name brand. Just my thoughts. İ love my Axum DP!
@DdOutdoors.4 жыл бұрын
Because you're paying for a brand with trek. Dont get me wrong they are great bikes but for a beginner on a budget.... so not worth the price.
@joshuaramirez61214 жыл бұрын
@@DdOutdoors. allot of bikes arent worth the price, UNLESS you actually plan on doing serious riding and doing actual riding and getting your money's worth. Allot of people buy an expensive bike mainly just to flex and show off.
@thedudeisgreat3 жыл бұрын
Literally
@paulrose42014 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting all week for this video! Finally it’s here!
@ScottHolcomb0074 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Videos! I just discovered your channel. Thanks to the Pandemic I'm rediscovering riding my 1988 Diamondback Ascent EX (gravel bike, OG mountain bike) on some light park trails to get back into bike riding and I am really enjoying the trails vs school parking lot and neighborhood streets. I bought it back in 89 when I lived in Huntsville, AL. I'm not sure I'll be riding all the time so when I found your channel I was like, YES! Thank you! So now, I'm torn between the Axum DP and the Boundary. I was looking at the Axum but then you showed the real-world use of that witchcraft "Drop Post"...what the... I'm 53, I grew up riding my 1977 Blue Roadrunner, one speed with slick rear tire and banana seat, then 1980 BMX Mongoose Blue Max...so I'm cheap and old school. I'm getting rattled to death via my "Sweet Red" Diamondback (love this bike) on the trails due to no fork and it's getting a bit old now, like me...help! Again, thank you for all your videos!
@chesterswingjr97964 жыл бұрын
Kev, you’re killing me with these videos, but keep them coming!!! You have the best channel on KZfaq for us folks who aren’t going to be riding double black diamond trails, but want a capable bike for intermediate trails without breaking the bank. Almost all the new Schwinn offerings are great bikes to start on, with minor upgrades as our skill increases, or in my case, the rust gets knocked off from not riding in years!!! A fork, pedals, bars, grips, hydraulic brakes, and maybe tires, and rims depending on the terrain you ride, and you have a great bike. You can add your upgrades on as you go, so you can still ride, and not have to fork out a lot of money at one time. Obviously Trek, Giant, Yeti, Cannondale, and others have fully capable bike right off the showroom floor, but the majority of casual riders don’t want to spend that kind of money for a bike. Looking forward for your next video!!!
@barkingmadman11694 жыл бұрын
I put a dropper ($135, Amazon) on my Marlin 6 (a $650 entry level hardtail from Trek) immediately, and loved it from day one. When I said I wanted a dropper the bike shop guys were like, "you don't need one of those on and entry level bike." But, oh, I beg to differ. It makes so much difference, it's like two bikes in one. And for all the reasons you said Kev. And I am very happy to see a DP on this Axum. The only drawback is I think you said previously there's just one size for the Axum frame, so smaller guys like me are out of luck. BTW, Trek advertises internal routing for the dropper but on my 2020 it turns out Trek did not drill the seat tube hole so I had to go with an external routed dropper. So, yah, I think this Walmart bike has one upped Trek, in that department at least. I mean I love my Marlin, but after all the research I did on it before buying only to find the dropper hole not drilled after all, it made a lasting impression of the brand on me.
@KevCentral4 жыл бұрын
That’s for sharing. Major oversight by Trek. I would expect something like that more in a big box bike that one of theirs 🤔
@barkingmadman11694 жыл бұрын
@@KevCentral Thanks for the reply. Yah, actually it was frustrating because I bought the dropper off of Trek's website on clearance, and planned to have the shop guys install, which they were happy to do after I convinced them I really wanted it. But even they were surprised the hole was not drilled and called Trek themselves only to find that's how the 2020 frame is supposed to be. Go figure. So I ended up returning the original dropper and getting the Amazon one later and installed it myself. I'm so glad I was persistent. Droppers are awesome!
@JD-co4hx3 жыл бұрын
Your experience installing the dropper cable was a lot easier than mine. The bar at the end wasn’t tight enough and popped right off when attempting to pull down to seat the cable shredding the end. I proceeded into a learning experience about cable cutters and and bike cables and had to remove the dropper post cable from the bike altogether just to get it fixed. I figured it out and fortunately was able to return the purchase of an additional bike cable that I thought I had needed. I wish there were clearer instructions on how to install the dropper post.
@stinkyutah74334 жыл бұрын
Its amazing that there know exists a bike under 500$ with a dropper
@gerardoescobedolobatos74984 жыл бұрын
And a tapered headtube. Dont forget the modern geometry
@somerandomguywastaken4 жыл бұрын
Not really when the rest of the components are straight trash
@tarikmoore8494 жыл бұрын
Crazy. My $3200 2019 Trek Fuel ex didn’t even come with a dropper
@bluecreekbiking9484 жыл бұрын
Yep but it is still a bad bike
@patlilburn74324 жыл бұрын
Great video man! First of yours I’ve seen. Please keep making quality bike videos! Love that Schwinn is making a nice comeback.
@zachsbikes79014 жыл бұрын
This is probably going to be the bike I get next for the trails. I’m currently using a genesis rct 27.5. It is a great bike
@c8l154 жыл бұрын
I also have the RCT 27.5 it's been 3 years now and still going, I have no complaints considering I only paid $150 thru amazon.
@travispowers17044 жыл бұрын
Hmmmmm, $500 for Axum, $180 for deore 10 speed 1x groupset, $80 for Shimano MT200 Brake Set, $250 Rockshox Recon = $1010 for a good quality bike with good components. While this is a nice bike, to me, the Trek Roscoe 7 is looking better as a new bike this summer. Will admit though, Schwinn has done good on this bike to get people into the sport with a solid priced bike. That is a good looking paint color!
@michaelmcclure33834 жыл бұрын
Yep, its like a budget roscoe! I got the Roscoe 7, great value imo
@Sutta924 жыл бұрын
As an alternative you can ditch the groupset upgrade in favor of a 15$ chain guide, and the fork in favour of a 200$ Suntour air fork and your sitting at just under 800$. At that price point it's probably much more competitive against local bike shop type bikes.
@wreckingopossum3 жыл бұрын
but the sum of your prices compares more to an X-Caliber 7 or Roscoe 6
@wreckingopossum3 жыл бұрын
Oh and then you are choosing between 27.5 x 2.8 tires with the Roscoe, or 29 x 2.25 with the X-caliber. With this you get the best of both worlds, rollover and traction with a 29 x 2.6
@svelobikes90494 жыл бұрын
Hey Kevin! I found a way to adjust the non-adjustable cheap suspension forks: 1. Take out the caps on top (same way as cheap bar ends: with a flat screwdriver) 2. Take a torque wrench with a super long adapter and an allen bolt remover 3. Tighten for stiffer suspension and loosen for a softer one It might only be that the suspension I tested it on was seized but I highly doubt it.
@scotteger62712 жыл бұрын
I really didn’t know much about a dropper but rode my brother-in-law’s Salsa fat tire that he added a dropper to…game changer…especially for the practical reasons you highlighted. I like the regular Axum color more (black with gold)…but I do like the idea of a dropper and the blue color is nice…reminds me of the color “blurple” that has been used by various companies for years for stuff (like Spyderco for their handle scales).
@RHAboutFace4 жыл бұрын
Personally, I would love to try one. Slap a thudbuster on that sucker (for those of us with backs that are gone) and I think it would be a pretty cool ride. And, that's from a full suspension former racer. Only had one hard tail back in the day. It was fast and super light, but I just preferred full suspension. Very informative video as always from Kev Central. I like it!
@4DGeorge4 жыл бұрын
As a former Kuwahara BMX racer from the early 1980s, now north of 50, this is my beginning down the path of getting back into riding, hitting the trails, and eventually back into catching some air like I used to. I've settled on riding the 29" mountain bike style. The other direction considered was 24"+ dirt jumpers. But... Let's get to riding first, jumping later. The obligatory and numerous visits to local bike shops had me wanting to go with the $3,000+ higher-end equipment, of course. But I also don't want to spend that kind of cash if it's just going end up sitting in the garage most of the time. From all the online reviews the Schwinn 29" Axum DP appears to be the best bang for the buck. And after some hard searching I eventually found one, brand new, untouched, and still in its shipping box, within Facebook's Marketplace: $600. Considering the original Walmart price + tax is $540, an additional $60 is a no brainier when resources are scarce, as they are during the current COVID-19 lockdown still going on. I picked it up, built it, being sure to grease the axle and head bearings and dial in all the components, and started pedalling! (Note: Most anything from China requiring grease should be double checked, whether automotive, garden, sports, etc. You'll be amazed at how much longer those things last when you do that right at the beginning!) After having ridden the Axum DP over the last two weeks (and redialing in the components) I can definitely say it's an excellent starting point for anyone wanting to get into riding a 29er without breaking the $1,000+ mark. As I'm 6'5" tall having the dropper post is absolutely fantastic! At full extension it holds the seat at the correct level for my leg length. With the seat that high getting on and off the bike would be obnoxious if it weren't for the dropper post! I absolutely love that thing! When I'm on a ride I use it whenever I change from riding standing up to sitting down, which is frequent. For now it works smoothly, quickly, and feels like a solid quality piece. The rest of the components are decent enough IF you're not already an advanced and seasoned rider. Except for the pedals - those are absolute crap and sized for little kids! I find the derailleur adequate enough (again, for now) and have to be cautious when shifting gears to keep it from jumping while applying power. The brakes seem to work well enough, but can tell I'll want more finesse as my skills improve. Everything else, shocks, cabling, grips, shifting controls, seems to be of equal quality and feels good enough for now. Back to my height of 6'5": with the seat post fully extended, the handle bars are far too low, causing me to be hunched over. That's the first upgrade immediately needed. I found a head tube extension at the local bike shop (overpriced but I wanted it now!) which did the trick. The night before I found online and ordered a FlatBike kit which also elevates the handlebar an additional inch. The FlatBike kit let's me detach the pedals and rotate the handlebar by 90° making the bike fit in a very narrow space like hanging it flat on the wall or ceiling. It works amazingly well and is excellent quality. So are the pedals that came with the kit. I also opted for the behind-the-seat storage bag, which is also excellent quality, to put the detached pedals in. However, it doesn't bode so well on a dropper post setup and competes with the wheel when lowered only halfway. Bummer! But that's okay, I'll just figure out how to mount it within the frame instead. The front brake cable is just barely long enough to accommodate the handlebar elevation while still being able to turn the front wheel around 180°. However, if I wipe out and the bars turn more than 180° it'll likely snap the cable. So I'll be putting a longer one on in the near future, but likely not before I break it first. Because then I'll probably just upgrade to hydraulic brakes. The next immediate area in need of upgrading is the chainring. At current I find myself riding around in 6th or 7th gear most of the time. I figure a few additional teeth up front on an oval chainring will do the trick. The cranks feel a little short for me as well, but ground clearance will become an issue. So for now I'll 'try' to refrain from replacing the whole groupset and only get an oval chainring. Chain slap is not too bad, but if you want to keep your frame's finish looking nice, I suggest immediately wrapping the chain stay. A neatly wrapped inner tube will suffice for now. The forks...do their job. But they're heavy and I know I'll quickly outgrow their limits. Plus, when I replace it, I'll no longer need the head tube extension. And I'll likely get something longer to pick the front up a little more, too. But that's for a much later time. It's nice having the 2.6" tires as there's a tremendous difference in stiffness between 20 and 45 psi giving you the ability to really dial it in as you like. Like after you've ridden enough to wear out your saddle muscles already but you still need to make the journey home. Just drop the pressure down... ...pssssssssssssssssssss... ...and ahhh...that feels so much better! Enjoy the soft ride back home. So, all in all, this bike is a winner! Just don't forget to grease the bearings! The head and rear axle bearings were practically dry! Heat during storage and overseas shipping caused most of the already thin grease to melt and run out. I could tell because it had oozed all over one side of the rear axle.
@danielbauguess75974 жыл бұрын
Bought the original Axum for myself based in part on your review. Loved it so much I bought a second one with the dropper post for my 17 year old son. Amazing bikes for the price! Already have new bars and pedals on mine.
@crazy8sdrums4 жыл бұрын
Great review for both of these Axum models! In a way, I feel like I should have waited a few months to get my 29er MTB so I could have gotten this...but I had no way of knowing the Axum was coming. The Schwinn Santis I bought and put several hundred dollars in drivetrain and fork upgrades has been totally worth it though and the bike is awesome now...just without a dropper post...which will likely be my next upgrade. Keep up the great bike reviews Kev! They are the best on KZfaq!
@jfkusa1234 жыл бұрын
Also to note it is a quick release, but not a standard quick release. The spacing is 141mm. It’s a boost hub converted to a qr.
@denismacfarlane2554 жыл бұрын
Same as Trek Roscoe or Norco Fluid HT, but they’re 27.5 wheels
@Staindsoul4life4 жыл бұрын
Can it be converted back to BOOST without breaking the bank?
@theporrinator4 жыл бұрын
Boost qr needs to die. Almost impossible to get wheels and not compatible with actual boost. So sadly it can't be converted to regular boost :(
@denismacfarlane2554 жыл бұрын
Staindsoul4life that is boost. Its dubbed boost 141.
@denismacfarlane2554 жыл бұрын
Staindsoul4life as far as converting the hub, get a hope pro 4 148 hub and get qr end caps, converts it to 141. Formula makes a specific 141 hub
@Toyman-rj9vy4 жыл бұрын
I am a proud owner of the Axum. Took me weeks to get it since it was sold out. Love this bike....Thank You KevCentral....
@KevCentral4 жыл бұрын
Congrats!
@Andrew-dm8mk4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the upload 🔥✊ Dropper posts are good, dropping the seat going down hill good! Racing down hill with you’re seat all the way up bad ! Because you are liable to go Over the handle bars on a tricky down hill section Especially on a hard tail, It’s all about keeping a nice low centre of gravity to prevent this & be more in control going down hill... Yup it’s gotta be the Schwinn DP I KNOW I WOULD!, Thanks Kev. I think the Schwinn DP would make quite a good bike to upgrade.✅ UPGRADE HER!
@98d314 жыл бұрын
Dropper post is best thing ever right after hydraulic disc brakes, proper suspension and derailleur made for comfort and focusing on what's important in bikes - having fun! Is it expensive? Yes. Is it worth it? YES!
@michaelgreenway892 жыл бұрын
I got this bike for Christmas. The dropper was completely new to me. Messed with me a little bit when the seat wouldn’t adjust right. Great bike smooth ride looking forward to really getting out there with it!
@mihir19974 жыл бұрын
As a bike mechanic, these look fairly compelling. If these are the new standard I just hope the derailleurs and brakes are better to work on than the hyper lineup. Those are a nightmare to service after a year or two of use.
@edsonedivaldoborbollaruiza14964 жыл бұрын
Schwinn just reached peak big box bike spec, next year offering in this market wil be competitive. And I want to see that.
@potterson17104 жыл бұрын
I've had mine for a week and on the whole I'm liking it, however I've already started making changes to make it comfortable. I'm 55 fit 5 foot 10.5 and found the bike just a tad large for me. Leaning so far over makes my hands hurt so I installed a riser bar and also raised the stem an additional 30mm. I'm more of a trail rider as apposed to a serious mountaineer and find the over all quality of the factory parts to be really good with the possible exception of the brakes. Don't get me wrong because they work well enough but they scream bloody murder. I replaced them with the Shimano mt200s which simply blows the doors off the OEM mechs. For me upgrading my bike is half the fun so I intend to turn this into a project bike right out of the box. If upgrading isn't your thing and you want a good quality trail bike then the AXUM is a good choice but DO replace the brakes. Personally I could live without the dropper post but I'll give it a chance to win me over.
@kennygraves4893 жыл бұрын
I was really looking hard at the boundary. But after watching the standard and the dp video here im really considering the aluminum dp now with the longer travel yet, and cassette rear wheel as well as even slacker geometry. I'm still short but my haro fligtline two 27.5 bike has a 8 speed cassette as well so maybe worst case scenario I do a 27.5 conversion like you did to the boundary.
@narymontages79734 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched this channel in almost a year and now this is what is sold at Walmart
@donnovicki97714 жыл бұрын
I have the Exaform on my Polygon and the thing just plain works. I never had a dropper before, but I'll never ride without one again. The ability to raise and lower the seat makes a huge difference in your riding.
@stephenhisel93954 жыл бұрын
My local Wal-mart never has any of the bikes on your videos,still enjoy the videos,not your fault our Wal-mart sucks.
@seanporter1134 жыл бұрын
This, like most of the Schwinn $300-500 offerings, looks awesome. Great features for the price. An additional benefit is that you can upgrade this model little by little. I think that I would purchase the blue dropper post version if my budget was around $500. But, if I didn’t quite have that much to spend I wouldn’t be afraid to purchase the dropper post ready version and upgrade later. A lot of people that bash the walmart/ target bikes are people that have the money to purchase $5000 bikes, but the bikes are way more bike then they can ever get the use out of. It makes them feel superior as a rider because they have the best equipment. But, I’d say... how embarrassed will you be when I pass you with my entry level mountain bike?
@KenOtwell4 жыл бұрын
Just ordered it from Walmart!!! Was waiting for a Boundary to come back in stock, but when i saw this one today I jumped. All the extra features should be worth it - with dropper post for under $500 (not counting tax.) I would have grabbed the Boundary if it and been available first, but I'm sure I won't regret this with a dropper post, both wheels removable, preload and lockout 100mm forks, and an extra gear (8,) Yea!
@crest24713 жыл бұрын
here at 97.5 k....100k soon! congrats kev
@calebcole32524 жыл бұрын
Dropper posts are great. I live in Colorado so my terrain gets pretty nasty, they come in handy. Super stoked to see a big box bike with one, awesome budget friendly aspect, with a taste of some serious components. That being said I’ll go with the dropper post version. And just got my sticker in the mail, thanks Kev.
@coryddp72544 жыл бұрын
I ordered online the Axum DP. It's in the bike shop for assembly. The headset lower bearing was damage on arrival. I contacted Pacific cycle and requested a new bearing. The new headset lower bearing arrived today via UPS and I'm taking it to the bike shop in the morning. The bike shop cost me 70 bucks. Can't wait, I just hope I don't fall because I'm too old to heal now
@KenOtwell4 жыл бұрын
Mine arrived yesterday and finally got it together and tuned. I haven't ridden in a while and this is a TALL bike! Even at 6'2" I can't imagine taking this out without the dropper post. Those plus-sized tires must add another inch of height. Anyway -brakes were very touchy to get calibrated, but seem sweet now. Haven't really tested the forks yet but at first pass they seem pretty strong. (Just ignore the disclaimer sticker that says not to ride downhills... right?) Will do some neighborhood riding to get the feel before hitting any trials. I've also ordered a better seat - this one is only good for road-racing and then only with padded shorts. Hard and ultra-narrow.
@shwndh4 жыл бұрын
A decent aluminum hardtail frame alone, with a threaded BB, routing for a dropper, and tapered HT will cost $500. And this bike is pretty upgradable. Only limitations are the rear hub spacing, but not a big deal. Very nice job Schwinn!
@andrewhillman96323 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy your reviews, very un-biased and informative.
@thibautdedoncker33704 жыл бұрын
If Belgium had walmarts and had this bike, id buy it without a second thought. looks like a great upgrade platform, just add like a extra 400 bucks for a new fork and either sram NX or shimano slx groupset.
@Andrew-dm8mk4 жыл бұрын
@ Thibaut De Doncker If Scotland had Walmarts😁... If only!
@bobj86114 жыл бұрын
Yup. $498 at my Walmart for the blue dropper post. $398 without the dropper post. You have gotten me interested in checking them out. Like I need another bike.
@gumtape66774 жыл бұрын
Schwinn is knocking the ball into outer space with what they're doing, crazy to see what they've made when compared to what was available 5 years ago.
@jasonlewis69144 жыл бұрын
I really like the frame with the square tubing on the lower half of the bike.Great bike for upgradeing.
@memememe8434 жыл бұрын
Sheesh. Seems like for a novice that would be a great start in trail riding. When you get more advanced adding a better fork will keep you going for a while. By the time you get to needing a better bike, if you ever do, you will have saved a ton.
@kuro38644 жыл бұрын
You’ve convinced me to get the Axum just ordered it. I’m a new rider and I will upgrade it later on!
@johnjriggsarchery24574 жыл бұрын
Hi, KevCentral, I really enjoy your channel and as you take low cost bikes and get into upgrading them, you may appreciate this; I have an 80's Huffy beach cruiser that I can ride like a road bike because I replaced the hard pushing tires with Maxxis Hookworms. Really LOW rolling resistance. I also replaced the short, high stem with a stem from a Schwinn Varsity. It basically doubled the cruising speed. Anyhoo, keep up the great work.
@MaplePanda044 жыл бұрын
What I’ve heard is that the rear triangle isn’t a thru axle, but actually QR141. It’s the boost QR standard.
@zurhilik4 жыл бұрын
KS (kind shock) were one of the first higher end dropper posts in the early 2010s. I had a KS i900 on my 2010 Scott Genius
@brianbyers44394 жыл бұрын
Just finished my own project hydro. Yes inspired by yours. Was looking for a way into mtb-ing. Took a year to save and build but got it done. After watching these on the axum/dp I'm definitely going this route when I build a hard tail.
@chelio19324 жыл бұрын
I'm going with the 2020 comp
@HanSolo__4 жыл бұрын
Riding Giant Trance with dropper for 3 years now. If I had to pick rear susp or dropper... I would ride a hartail with dropper.
@4DGeorge4 жыл бұрын
I think this would be a winner for me IF I could find one online somewhere. I've searched Schwinn's and Walmart's sites directly along with a general search in Google and found zip, zero, NADA. Can't even find it as a listed bike. However, I did find a whole slew of comments for it (all coming from Pacific-Cycle.com) and one listing within eBay for $750. Other than that, I'm not finding "Axum DP" anywhere. Clearly I'm missing something. For now. But I'll keep searching. The link to it you provided DOES pull it up on Walmart's site (and lists it as out of stock). But when I search for it by name it doesn't come up. Edit: After reading through the comments posted thus far, I see I'll have to make a point of taking the search old-school: physically going to the store and cornering an employee to verify their stock. Keep up the great work! You're creating a lot of good value for others!
@garywalker4945 Жыл бұрын
One of my best friends bought one for a little under five hundred bucks and it turned out to be too tall for him so he sold it to me for $100!! This side of an adjustable stem to raise the handlebars (30 bucks for the stem 30 bucks for the install), I'm riding a really sweet mountain bike for 160 bucks... Couldn't be happier!
@WildCaptures4 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for the 2020 Boundary to come back into stock but this is might be a better option 🤷♂️
@harrygrimley43524 жыл бұрын
Think twice about the boundary. I bought two. For my some and I. Already had to replace the derailers on both. Broke the b screw. Bent the rear axles on both. Have yet to replace. Two month in and have yet to go on three miles of trails. Blue. No jumps. Paved bike paths maybe ten miles. Brakes are lacking.
@WildCaptures4 жыл бұрын
Harry Grimley Wonder if the Axum is much better?
@KandiKlover4 жыл бұрын
Steve B they’re both fine bikes. That guy is just an idiot and spreading BS because he can’t accept that he doesn’t know what he’s doing.
@aaronanderson86734 жыл бұрын
I picked up two Boundaries from my local Walmart last week. I had to search relentlessly and I got both from the assemblers before they hit the floor. One of them is great, and one of them doesn’t shift really well. I have adjusted the derailer to the best of my ability, but it takes quite a bit of pedal torque to get it to shift up or down. Lack of quality control maybe? The other bike was perfect after the same adjustments. The 14t top gear is fine for my wife, but it’s very limiting for me on paved roads. I have an Axum DP on the way. If it’s not too big I will keep it. I think the larger gear range will be huge. My sister wants a good bike, so I’ll sell the Boundary to her.
@harrygrimley43524 жыл бұрын
@@aaronanderson8673 sell it to your sister? Don't like her? I guess it would depend on the type of riding she will be doing and how big she is. I'm two hundred and ten pounds and Pacific is saying it's my fault.
@marcs40914 жыл бұрын
I don't know, I seen those tapered head tube up close. They don't quite look standard, Maybe I'm Wrong, but it looks like you may have a problem finding a good replacement fork. Doesn't look like a standard 1 1/8 It's super wide at the bottom maybe just need special Hardware.
@Alttabbins4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see this one as the new project bike. I don't think it would take much to make this an AMAZING bike. A mid-range fork, maybe handlebars and stem, hydraulic brakes, done!
@TwoTrakMind4 жыл бұрын
I really like the DP model and would buy it in a heartbeat. The only thing I'd really want to change is the brakes. I ran mechanical disks for a couple of years on my current bike and finally upgraded to low end Shimano hydraulics. I absolutely love them and would never go back.
@medic0014653 жыл бұрын
My wife and I bought this model. Love it.
@johnnysutherland95074 жыл бұрын
First off great channel. I ordered mine a week ago got it Thursday with a lower head set bearing bent and missing bearings. Got it up and running ,found bars to be too flat and seat not very comfortable. New riser bars and seat makes it a great bike for the money
@kahlilsalome293 жыл бұрын
no joke one of my favorite things about having a dropper is the ability to use your bike as a chair
@mopar_dude92274 жыл бұрын
Damn you Kev and Schwinn! You are making it harder and harder for me to make up my mind!
@shawnaebbeson78824 жыл бұрын
My first 'real' mountain bike was a Schwinn High Plains (back in the 1990's). I added A LOT of extras on it and made it a bike I rode more than I drove. I have had a Giant ATX 27.5 for about 5 years now. It is a NICE bike (I have added lights, water bottle cages, rear shelf, and lots of bags). It does not get a lot of use anymore because I live in Iowa and the weather is just starting to get nice (weather speaking). Now that I will be turning 50 next month, it is time to get back on the saddle and get some of that mobility back I lost when I quit riding. I LOVE this new Axum. At 5' 8", it might be a bit big for me, but with the dropper post, it may just fit right. This new Axum may be added to my stable of bikes and get a lot more use. What say you?
@KevCentral4 жыл бұрын
I would think 5’8” would have the dropper so low it would negate the benefits and make a non-dropper model more viable. There’s also the 19” frame, so standover may be an issue at that height. Good luck!
@shawnaebbeson78824 жыл бұрын
@@KevCentral yeah, that is what I thought. I may give it a shot anyway. My Giant is a Medium size and it snugs around the crotch area but I ride it well. Who knows :) Thank you for our reply, as I was thinking about the frame size anyway.
@jf85344 жыл бұрын
Nice find and good video. As soon as you pulled the dropper out I thought it sure looks like the KS I installed on my wife's liv.
@joshwood34 жыл бұрын
Would you ever consider looking at other budget bikes outside of Walmart? I know bikes direct has cheap bikes, but they never really get reviewed. Itd be interesting to compare a $400-500 bike from there to some of these Schwinn's.
@KevCentral4 жыл бұрын
On top of Walmart I’ve looked at bikes from Target, DSG, Sports Authority, Kmart and Amazon so far.
@joshwood34 жыл бұрын
@@KevCentral I guess I need to watch some more of your videos lol
@jordonweiss4 жыл бұрын
If I had this bike I think I would go crazy and do a "mullet" bike. Get a 130-140mm fork on the front and then to help counter the added bottom bracket height I would switch out the rear wheel for a 27.5+, which would in turn slacken the head tube angle even farther. It would be a weird ride but I also think it would be an absolute blast. You could get away with a completely unique monster of a bike for under $1k easily and it would be the only one like it
@NELSONG12 Жыл бұрын
I'm gonna get this bike. $449 for DP version. You can't beat that price!
@cognac82978 ай бұрын
the action of a dropper post is to hold your butt when your hard-tail rear wheel kicks up, when the rear wheel goes up and your butt lifts up this droper post catches you, you have to set the lever on the handle bars where its stiff some what but still rises and drops. your still sitting where the rear wheel flew up, I like the droper is able to hold a firm shock like rebound too. ..
@nickmendez50574 жыл бұрын
Just picked up the DP and I am stoked on it!
@jimratzlaff31124 жыл бұрын
I like the DP. It's a great looking bike and a good value, but I wouldn't buy a 29er. I'm 5'10" and shrinking, so this bike sounds like it would be just above my comfort level. Nice review.
@booncha19714 жыл бұрын
Great video Kev ! I purchased this same seat post off the web for my trek roscoe ht..for an inexpensive dropper it works just as good as my rockshox reverb on my full suspension bike..
@KevCentral4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Can you share what it cost?
@tommybaird16534 жыл бұрын
Love your videos! You should consider doing a series on the Diamondback Recoil 29er and compare it to big box bikes like the Mongoose XR-Pro.
@WolfPawArmoury4 жыл бұрын
I've been considering getting a Diamondback Overdrive 27.5, which is the same price before tax, but after seeing this video, I'm beginning to think that $500 is much better spent on the Axum DP. Comparing what you get out of the box DB OD: 3x8 hardtail with Shimano Acera groupset, 11-32 cassette, 42-32-22 SR Suntour Crankset, 27.5 x 2.125 Chaoyang knobby tires, SR Suntour 80mm fork with a straight steerer, 680mm bars, 60mm(?) stem, and a standard seatpost Axum: 1x8 drivetrain with AXE groupset, 11-42(correct me if I'm remembering wrong) cassette, 30t chainring, 100 or 120mm fork (can't remember) 29x2.6 knobby tires, AN INFINITELY ADJUSTABLE DROPPER POST, TAPERED HEADTUBE, 720mm bars, and a 60mm stem Yeah, I'd say this is the better buy for $500
@michaelwrigley54384 жыл бұрын
Personally I would rather ride a hard tail with a dropper than a full sus with a rigid post. Getting your seat out of the way allows you to maneuver the bike a lot better. Glad to see decent bikes at these lower price points now. Hopefully the trickle down continues.
@geoffhibbitt79944 жыл бұрын
Nice bike. Great color. Just picked up a Haro Double Peak Sport and gave my GT Aggressor to my wife
@TheGrayWolf814 жыл бұрын
Kev, excellent video as always! You should take a gander at the 2020 Vitus VR. It's a lot of bike for the money!
@dingo20834 жыл бұрын
That exaform dropper is actually made by Kind Shock which is known for the KS eten and KS Lev droppers. This is an incredible value for money buy. My new recommendation for new riders first bikes is a Schwinn. Who'd of thought.
@cyrus9863 жыл бұрын
I took it out for the first ride with a bucklos lutus fork and even me being a beginner it rips. It’s fairly light and the dropper post is OP
@jacklo3254 жыл бұрын
This is one hell of a deal. For extra $100, even a generic dropper, it's worth it. Just wish it has a smaller frame like 17/18"...
@gregoryhuber79174 жыл бұрын
I like the dp model. It looks worth the extra hundred bucks for a dropper post. Keep up the good work and the good finds. Makes me question my expensive bike.
@jacobbockover16284 жыл бұрын
Id absolutely pick the dropper i started using them a year ago and for some of the trails around here it keeps me from having to get off the bike and drop the seat
@YoYosAmusement4 жыл бұрын
Been waiting on this. Saw it on another channel and was waiting for Kev
@coltonowens59764 жыл бұрын
i’ve always ridden bmx before i got into mtbing, droppers to me seemed like something that were kind of a perk that extremely expensive bike had. to me sitting down in a bike wasn’t cool lol. when i got a real mtb with a dropper i never realized how essential they were, i could go on much longer flat ground rides and could send it on some gnarly single track, with a dropper you have the advantages of both a high and a low seat. and i never realized how essential high seats were until my mtb journey began.
@nocent24 жыл бұрын
Just a heads up for those buying this bike. Mine just came in yesterday. The front tire was missing a total of 5 ball bearings, 3 on one side 2 on the other. The front axle isnt long enough for the front tire... I believe its supposed to come with some cheap pedals and it did not.
@PapaAV4 жыл бұрын
Awesome looking bike I have an alert set up for when it's back in stock