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4bt Swapped Ranger fun, the sound of a Cummins getting 30+ MPG

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Old 509cc

Old 509cc

Күн бұрын

Becky Ep 3
MPG updates. Day in the life of a Fummins.

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@willdog3
@willdog3 3 жыл бұрын
This is hilarious, it looks like a tiny F250 with that camper and the big tires. Sounds like one too. I love it.
@old509cc2
@old509cc2 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother! Should I finish off the look with a set of cab lights?
@FordRanger-ih9wq
@FordRanger-ih9wq 3 жыл бұрын
@@old509cc2 yes sir you should
@anthonyholden6898
@anthonyholden6898 Жыл бұрын
I need one
@swankscabinet1625
@swankscabinet1625 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been planning on swapping my 93 Bronco with a 4bt and this just confirms it. That’s a kick ass ride bro! Can definitely tell you love it
@coltonmiller872
@coltonmiller872 2 жыл бұрын
I dream of the cummins r2.8 in my 92 Bronco. That and one of the ovrlnd camper shells
@jacksonworlock
@jacksonworlock 2 жыл бұрын
Did you swap it? How hard was it want to swap my f150 with it
@swankscabinet1625
@swankscabinet1625 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacksonworlock I have not swapped it yet. I probably won’t be able to swap it for a couple of years but it is definitely going to happen. Right now though I’m working on get some 05-07 f250 axles to stick under it for better suspension and higher tow capacity. Plus solid axle for if and when I want to go crawling. But within the next 5 years I will have my truck completely swapped and ready to go
@JS.730
@JS.730 2 жыл бұрын
No 4bt in a fuckin bronco unless it’s a bronco 2 get a 6bt it will fit fine
@BuildSomethingAuto
@BuildSomethingAuto 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome swap. I can't imagine my 6bt swap will get that good of fuel mileage 🤣
@kona5853
@kona5853 Жыл бұрын
This is awesome 👏 I’m putting the same idea here in a Dakota. goal is 30-35 mpgs unloaded and 18-24 mpgs with a good loading.
@jasonmorales894
@jasonmorales894 2 жыл бұрын
This is gonna help me decide on doing a 4bt swap on my 87 taco love keep up the work mate
@Preston_Wood
@Preston_Wood Жыл бұрын
Well, i found a different (and probably better) engine to put in my ranger! I wanted to do a 5.0l 302 out of a F-150/Explorer, but now i have a new inspiration. Plus with it being a diesel it’ll be good for light loads and as shown in this video it’ll get great fuel mileage.
@JAKE3914
@JAKE3914 3 жыл бұрын
would love to have a 4bt in my '98 Ranger!
@Glennquagmire1912
@Glennquagmire1912 2 жыл бұрын
This is the last nail in the coffin damn, small truck with a 4bt is the way
@Dieselmachine4
@Dieselmachine4 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to swap in a 4bt cummins in my F150. The 302/5.0 is getting tired. I just want a diesel in it for longevity and torque
@mtcmotorsports4512
@mtcmotorsports4512 3 жыл бұрын
Go with a 6
@jamescarter6318
@jamescarter6318 3 жыл бұрын
Swap a 460 in there!
@om606ram6
@om606ram6 3 жыл бұрын
Swap in a Mercedes diesel.
@billykid.935
@billykid.935 2 жыл бұрын
did you put a solid front end in it? or is it still independent ?
@Thizlamic
@Thizlamic 3 жыл бұрын
DUDE!!! Sweeeet rig!
@Rylanhere
@Rylanhere 3 жыл бұрын
Is this the new f225?
@alex2481a
@alex2481a 4 жыл бұрын
Can u tell me what transmisión u used and the flyweel adater for this convertion pls
@old509cc2
@old509cc2 4 жыл бұрын
M5ODR2 is the trans. Early 2000’s F150 The engine had a ford driveline in its previous life so the flywheel abs adapter plate were already on.
@donotedit4646
@donotedit4646 2 ай бұрын
@@old509cc2How has the M5R2 handled the torque? I know they weren’t even used in the 351w application that makes far less toque lol. I’m very interested
@loudmokereviews2401
@loudmokereviews2401 2 жыл бұрын
What transmission are you using I’m looking to do this swap
@jakeday5936
@jakeday5936 2 жыл бұрын
Id like to do this to my 1990 ranger can you walk me through how you did the whole drivetrain and all the parts? Witch transmition, transfer case. Bell housing, everything please
@old509cc2
@old509cc2 2 жыл бұрын
First video comment: M5ODR2 is the trans. Early 2000’s F150 The engine had a ford driveline in its previous life so the flywheel and adapter plate were already on. If you want 4wd, get a 4wd m5odr2 as it has a different output shaft and tailhousing. Bw4406 that comes on these trans in the f1&250’s. SBF-small block ford- adaptor housing and flywheel will likely be found together if you buy it them used. Or you may find an adaptor from a conversion parts maker. Housing has 3912601 in casting. The Flywheel rubbed on something in its lifetime and now the numbers are mostly illegible.
@goodmusickforthesoul
@goodmusickforthesoul 3 жыл бұрын
There is no “I love it” react on KZfaq
@jacklacy6492
@jacklacy6492 2 жыл бұрын
That voice crack at the beginning
@joshuashirk461
@joshuashirk461 11 ай бұрын
Just got a truck to do this to. Only problem is where do i get adapter plates and a flywheel? also what clutch did you use?
@TheRowdyJ
@TheRowdyJ 3 жыл бұрын
new here. just found ya. is there a place that shows your setup? tire size, gear ratio, transmission gear? fuel injecor size? fuel pin? etc. what rpm are you getting 30mpg at? i have a 71 jeep im building and would love descent power with great mileage. i have gears that would allow cruise at 1850rpm (3.73) or 1600rpm (3.07) @75mph. trying to decide which would be better. i know my 24v 6.7 liked low rpm. i already bought an he221w 7cm so itll spool around 900ish. 30 gal of fuel, 30 mpg.. thats a 900 mile cruise radius. helluva BOV talk to me, goose..=)
@old509cc2
@old509cc2 3 жыл бұрын
:D Goose here, check out the first one I put up on the truck. Shoot me an email and I can update you on what else has been done to it since. Old509cc@gmail
@OG-Siegal1315
@OG-Siegal1315 3 жыл бұрын
Thinking about doing this swap to my 87 4x4 ranger stx. Would be for daily driving n over landing.
@_Mr.Black_
@_Mr.Black_ 3 жыл бұрын
What's your 87 look like? I'm obsessed with first gen rangers
@BurbDude
@BurbDude 2 жыл бұрын
Ferb, I know what we're gonna do today
@moldybananasgaming9037
@moldybananasgaming9037 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of adapter plate/fly wheel are you using for that
@johnlopez128
@johnlopez128 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds good
@genoory5090
@genoory5090 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2011 ford ranger fx4. I wanna do this swap too. Beside the factory ford computer, How'd you did it to run on the ford platform and what any issues you have ran into by doing the swap?
@old509cc2
@old509cc2 Жыл бұрын
12v to the pump and wire up the alternator and any original sensors you want working. The cumputer is still there for the dash. Pull any light bulbs you don’t want to see on all the time.
@mitchdodd9732
@mitchdodd9732 3 жыл бұрын
Did you install or have a harmonic balancer on the motor to help vibrations I heard it’s more vibration on manual trans
@old509cc2
@old509cc2 3 жыл бұрын
I installed a fluid damper during some downtime and noticed an audible decrease in vibrations. I have not switched back and drove it again to do a back to back comparison.
@DeezGarage
@DeezGarage 2 жыл бұрын
I have the same truck and am trying to figure out what swap to do. Not much on the interweb. Did you have to make any major changes to fit the motor? How’s the tranny fit? You should make a video on the build man
@old509cc2
@old509cc2 2 жыл бұрын
Checkout my first video on the truck there’s some walk around info on it. Some parts have changed since then, and I have AC now with off the shelf parts. The trans is tight around the bellhousing, some of the pinch weld around there had to be cut for bolt access. 3” body lift and #4 valve cover just barely sneaks off. Motor mounts are tight, not the lost serviceable but not terrible. So overall it does work, just takes some work to get it sitting in the right spot and have to often take a few extra parts off to get at what you’re after.
@tejasheldrake8981
@tejasheldrake8981 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man awesome rig wanting to do something similar did you use the ranger tranny and if so where did you get all of the conversion kits and mounts?
@old509cc2
@old509cc2 Жыл бұрын
The big brother of the ranger tranny. F150/250 M5OD-R2 Moutns we’re redone with the farmstrong modified to fit the passenger side. Drivers has to be custom unless you run hydroboost and no vacuum pump.
@Nikkk6969
@Nikkk6969 9 ай бұрын
How much cutting you had to do for it to fit?? That’s so sick!
@old509cc2
@old509cc2 4 ай бұрын
3” body lift. Everything else was built around where the engine sits.
@Shadowband72
@Shadowband72 3 жыл бұрын
How does it drive though ? Adding a 1000 lb diesel to what was a 3100 lb truck . Is it nose heavy ? Did you have to add weight to the back to make it feel like it wasn't going to do a somersault ?
@old509cc2
@old509cc2 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha she doesn’t somersault! Front scaled at 2680 and the rear was 2160 with 3/4 tank and my usual stuff in the bed. Drives really nice and I haven’t even added weight in the back in winter.
@Shadowband72
@Shadowband72 3 жыл бұрын
@@old509cc2 If you watch rock crawling videos from Moab , you will see people doing backwards roll overs on the regular .
@old509cc2
@old509cc2 3 жыл бұрын
Oh I believe that! With how tall and heavy these engines are, I hear they’re not much a benefit for trail rigs. No worries for me in that regard, I just use the truck for daily duty and hauling atv’s.
@TheRowdyJ
@TheRowdyJ 3 жыл бұрын
@@Shadowband72 got a link? or what to search? im building a jeep with a 4bt and would rather not roll it. that was the problem with the short nose and the buick v6. i have a cj6 though that im stretching even more. should help some
@masonweiss14
@masonweiss14 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man, I did the same thing in my 05 ranger. How did you get the speedo to work?
@old509cc2
@old509cc2 2 жыл бұрын
How did you make your factory gages work? I am using a Dakota Digital SGI-100BT. Well worth is as you can adjust it with your phone instead of clicking through options with the buttons. I have mine buried in my dash to keep the wires short and tidy. Get the flywheel gear sensor too, it’s not worth modifying the alternator if you end up like me and are on the third one. They recently switched to a new red anodized body, I think it’s actually the same as sensors Motion Raceworks sells. For the tach: The flywheel pickup sensor has terminals on the brain box, hook them up and the output goes to the tab and yellow wire on the gauge cluster plug, If memory serves. Also at the gauge cluster, splice in and route the speedometer signal wire to the brain box where you can correct the signal for any changes in the drivetrain. Then output from the brain box goes back to the gauge cluster plug. You can put the dummy oil sensor from the original engine in a port on the filter housing, or in place of one of the plugs on the drivers side of the block, just below the tappet cover. The water temp was the red and white wire for me, on the original 4 banger, I also reused that sensor for the stock gauge. The other sensor is likely for the ecm and can be discarded. Alright awesome thanks for getting back to me! That helps a lot!! So I understand you’re using the M50D R2? That’s what I plan on using. Just so it’s clear, you ran the VSS on that trans to the SGI-100BT and then to the cluster? Then adjusted as needed? I am not using the f150 trans sensor. There is a vss on the explorer axle, like the ranger, which I am using for speed signal. So basically with either the axle vss, or a trans vss with the gear, the wiring below feeds the pcm and then you just interrupt and correct the signal at the gauge cluster.
@patriotkieler9750
@patriotkieler9750 10 ай бұрын
How hard is it to do this swap?
@Drunken_Hamster
@Drunken_Hamster Жыл бұрын
From what I hear a 1.9 TDI can do even better, is MUCH lighter, and can be built to over 300whp (similar or more torque).
@kona5853
@kona5853 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but the little VW doesn’t make the torque a Cummins has. I love VW TDIs and they a great for some applications but these applications are different. The Cummins was built for trucks can pull a house and get 20 mpgs all day and not fatigue more than normal wear and tear. A VW TDI is designed for 50 mpgs low load in a small car. Yeah you can build em up to get a lot of horsepower but the smaller engine will have lacking characteristics you want for the truck.
@Drunken_Hamster
@Drunken_Hamster Жыл бұрын
@@kona5853 It weighs less than the average car (with a normal weight engine in it), it's not an F350. It doesn't need 450 lb-ft of torque to go with 225hp (assuming it's built) and it definitely doesn't need a 700lb boat anchor sitting in the nose to deliver those numbers. If you could read, you'd see that I said "similar or more torque" which is the factual case of the TDI, along with being literally half the weight of the 4bt. For a Ranger, there are no downsides, it's an even easier swap and is more compatible with the platform due to existing kits and adapters.
@kona5853
@kona5853 5 ай бұрын
VW tdis are good. But not that good. You wanna build it to 300 Hp VW tdi price tag is a big factor and so is durability. It will never be as durable as a truck engine under any load. The vw will not have more torque than the Cummins at the valued price point of a 300hp tdi. At the same time this is apples and oranges. VW tdis are for cars fuel economy not truck utility, it would work in this application but there is still a trade off. If weight is all your worried about the b3.3 can be done up, it’s 250 lbs lighter shorter deck shorter stroke better, rpm range and better fuel economy. An example a good load for this ranger would be 600 lbs sand in the bed an trailer with a garden tractor weighing in about 2800 lbs. VW won’t tolerate that, it will be overworking extra wear on entire engine. 4bt will taking this as a day heavier day stroll with very little extra wear. Fuel economy for 300hp VW will likely be maybe 20 mpgs. 4bt 18 mpgs.
@anthonycaudill8179
@anthonycaudill8179 3 жыл бұрын
How are the vibrations in the cab? What engine mounts did you use?
@old509cc2
@old509cc2 3 жыл бұрын
There wasn’t room for the Farmstrong engine mount on the drivers side. So that side has a fluid filled Anchor brand. I would like the vibes to be less when I’m foot to the floor, it has a cab vibration drone. I’m guessing this is just inherent of the whole setup, manual trans, crank pulley etc. otherwise it has a little buzz in the floor and you can hear the engine, but nothing that drives even me crazy. All of the rattles a cab squeaks are fixed so it’s not annoying. Maybe the next one (4wd) will get the whole 9 yards thrown at it. Hydroboost, farmstrong mounts, Fluid damper.
@anthonycaudill8179
@anthonycaudill8179 3 жыл бұрын
@@old509cc2 thanks for the quick response! I’m contemplating doing a 4bt swap so just getting info on things. My Jeep’s 4.0 is a beast but I like the idea and simplicity of the Cummins. Plus you know, torque. Lol
@old509cc2
@old509cc2 3 жыл бұрын
If you already have power to play with, it may be very expensive to match that power and response with a 4bt. I think their biggest perks while living the single turbo life is MPG and towing capability. Once you want to play with the big boys and build the engine for crazy compound boost you’re deep in your wallet. If I would do that myself, I would need at the least a stronger trans. That kind of fun would be best for a clean clean body that will last the rest of your days.
@smokindiesel2650
@smokindiesel2650 2 жыл бұрын
How hard was the swap
@thomaseichelberger186
@thomaseichelberger186 3 жыл бұрын
How did you get the stock tach and speedo to work?
@old509cc2
@old509cc2 3 жыл бұрын
Dakota digital diesel tach convertor. Can use alternator or a flywheel pickup. Ran ring gear spedo signal through the box to correct for tire size.
@jgscs61
@jgscs61 2 жыл бұрын
Just need add the exhaust brake system man,nice engine's big torque 💪🏾🦾🦿
@old509cc2
@old509cc2 2 жыл бұрын
Believe me I have thought about it. Maybe the next one, boxed frame, 4wd solid axle, nv4500 or another stronger trans, super hx30....I will spend the 1-1.5k for an exhaust brake. This one all things considered just isn’t worth the money and valvetrain wear.
@JohnSmith-qj4cf
@JohnSmith-qj4cf 3 жыл бұрын
I like it no I love it I want to build one !!what is the transmission and whats that on shifter thks
@warrenmcelroy4718
@warrenmcelroy4718 3 жыл бұрын
I have an engine for sale here in Central Kentucky. ‘98 4BT... $2,000.
@JohnSmith-qj4cf
@JohnSmith-qj4cf 3 жыл бұрын
@@warrenmcelroy4718 is complete and what gind of injection pump thks
@warrenmcelroy4718
@warrenmcelroy4718 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-qj4cf yeah it’s a complete, running engine, came out of a ‘98 Case SkidSteer. Was running great when we took it out and scrapped the SkidLoader. Still has the big bellhousing attached to it so it weighs about 950lbs as it sits right now. Sadly it doesn’t have a P-Pump or A rotary pump, it has the inline Bosch A-Pump. Some people do run the A-Pump on the road, they say it just takes some time to get the hang of it because they add fuel on their own when the engine gets under a load. I’ve also heard that they aren’t too good for making a lot of power like the P-Pump but don’t hold me to that
@cumminsscout
@cumminsscout 3 жыл бұрын
What's the bike shifter for?
@old509cc2
@old509cc2 3 жыл бұрын
‘Cruise’ control
@Oscar_delta13
@Oscar_delta13 3 жыл бұрын
Faster than the 4L sohc?
@old509cc2
@old509cc2 3 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t a 4L originally and I haven’t lined up to anyone. I beat on it a few times and got ~12,3 0-60. She’s not meant for that by any means. If I wanted a go fast 4bt it would have compounds and a stouter trans. This one is setup to sip fuel daily and tow trailers.
@ford2305
@ford2305 3 жыл бұрын
How much did the build cost?
@old509cc2
@old509cc2 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I don’t know. More than a 99 ranger gasser and less than a used Ecodiesel. The main items are easy to add up and anyone can do a rough estimate of those. The real nitty gritty odds and ends is where a lot of the cost is hidden. I haven’t taken the time to sit down for multiple nights, and likely won’t, to try and track down every small purchase that was made. If I get that detailed then where would the line be drawn for regular maintenance on high millage vehicles? Brake calipers? Axle rebuild? Etc...I have done a lot more than just the engine swap to set this up for a long term driver which makes what seems like a simple question hard to answer. I should have made more an effort since I started to stash all receipts in a box.
@henryhill3778
@henryhill3778 Жыл бұрын
Lies. No Way it get's CLOSE to 30 beating the Shyte out of it like that. MAYBE 22. The best way to get Great FE us going VW TDI.
@old509cc2
@old509cc2 4 ай бұрын
You’re spot on. Drift it around and it’s 22. Baby it on the highway and it was 31.5. Haven’t been able to get it back up that high since my pump gave out and rebuilt it with parts from a forklift. I’m usually 26-27 in the summer now.
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