4WD VS Winter Tyres - Do you need winter tyres if you have 4WD?

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Quattro VS XDrive! • Audi Quattro VS BMW XD...
As requested in comments I will be doing all season vs winter tyres AND 4wd vs 2wd on the same tyres so make sure you subscribe! bit.ly/2p6kKXq.
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I've lost track the amount of times I've read "you don't need winter tyres if you have four wheel drive", so I thought I'd do the test. Two BMW X1 vehicles, one is front wheel drive (FWD) with winter tyres, and one of four wheel drive (4WD / 4x4 / AWD) with summer tyres fitted.
The winter tyre 2wd vehicle has Goodyear Ultragrip Performance Gen-1 and the summer tyre 4wd has the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 3. Both tyres are in the same size and load rating (225/50 R17) and have the same tyre pressures.
The tests in the video include acceleration and braking on snow, snow handling, snow hill climb, snow braking on a hill, and obstacle avoidance.
Which combination of drive train and tyres was best? You'll have to watch the video :)
Note, I know I use 4x4 and AWD interchangeably in the video. The BMW X1 is AWD, but you would have a similar result with FWD.
Winter tyres are sometimes called snow tyres.
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@christiano9618
@christiano9618 4 жыл бұрын
It'd be a lot more useful to compare All-Season vs. Winter tires, can you do that?
@samuelyoung2671
@samuelyoung2671 4 жыл бұрын
c fresh all season vs worn winters?
@Toastinfingers
@Toastinfingers 4 жыл бұрын
All-Season tires are banned in Quebec (eastern Canada) during winter, they arent safe enough. As the temperature drops, the rubbers hardens and loose traction.
@funchameleon68
@funchameleon68 4 жыл бұрын
I can allready tell you that it would be in the middle of these two.
@yuliappkuhne5437
@yuliappkuhne5437 4 жыл бұрын
@@Toastinfingers softer rubber is only helpfull on ice. on snow the thread is what makes a difference
@deebart9230
@deebart9230 4 жыл бұрын
I just drove in 2-3 inches of snow a few days ago in a 2WD using Pirelli all season. Disappointed is an understatement. I couldn’t complete my journey. I’ve just ordered Nokian winter tyres for my new car. I’ve had them before and they are amazing. My ratings for tyre type in the snow would be -summer 1/10, winter 10/10 and all season 4/10.
@ncs353a
@ncs353a 5 жыл бұрын
Good lesson for those who don't know how much tires can do for a car.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@krane15
@krane15 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Not all of us were born and raised up in the cold.
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely. AWD or 4WD don't help at all if you have shitty tires.
@billnopoles1934
@billnopoles1934 4 жыл бұрын
Right! And when you try to stop, even with 4WD, you have only four tires to come to a stop.
@noily8974
@noily8974 4 жыл бұрын
Winter tires for winter road in winter nation by winter car
@alanartwww
@alanartwww 3 жыл бұрын
Recently, in cold, snowy, hilly, Eastern Washington, I drove an old Civic FWD with 50% tread winter tires. This was my first time driving with winter tires, and it was amazing. Starting out uphill on ice was no problem. My regular car is an Audi Quattro with AWD and all-seasons, and I thought it was pretty good on ice, until I drove that Civic.
@GoogleAccount-tt5yx
@GoogleAccount-tt5yx 2 жыл бұрын
get winter tires, your audi awd will love it
@HMAnetwork
@HMAnetwork Жыл бұрын
Did you buy those winter tired used or they come on the Civic when you bought it?
@Psych0technic
@Psych0technic Жыл бұрын
were they studded? My experience is with regular non studded winter tires was very different, they performed rather poorly on ice.
@alanartwww
@alanartwww Жыл бұрын
@@Psych0technic Not studded, just true studies winter tires. All-seeason tire tires get hard as a rock in ice and can't grip.
@collinmc90
@collinmc90 Жыл бұрын
Just moved to Oroville. getting winter tires ASAP lol
@No-vm7go
@No-vm7go 4 жыл бұрын
I love these testing videos. The results are confirming the validity of the tire buying decisions that I've been making since Snowmageddon back in 2017.
@ZylonFPV
@ZylonFPV 5 жыл бұрын
I really hope this will be a strong message to all those folk with massive heavy range rovers and X5s who drive in winter on summer tyres and think they are invincible!
@paulf3353
@paulf3353 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think they watch those videos :)
@yorkshiredefender1105
@yorkshiredefender1105 5 жыл бұрын
I have a X6 and I'm just about to put my smaller alloys from 21 inch sport summer tyres, to 19inch alloys with Goodyear ultra grip tyres as I live in rural North Yorkshire and want to get the most from my car
@albertovicinanza
@albertovicinanza 5 жыл бұрын
I have to admit though, overtaking them on your cheap car while they're struggling is too satisfying 😂
@AndyG73
@AndyG73 5 жыл бұрын
I can't wait until some snow comes to the UK, and I can REALLY test out my 6mo CrossClimates on my 2WD Mazda3. A shame I couldn't pit it up against my sister's 4WD Audi TT on summer tyres (she changed jobs and had to give it back as it was a company car) - it would be interesting to see how they fair in the real world, especially as, apart from more remote/northerly areas, we don't tend to get that much snow in the UK. Oh well, I'll just have to content myself at seeing all the Beemers etc on bling-bling low profile summer tyres slip and slide all over the place...assuming we actually GET any snow.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 жыл бұрын
Hopefully some of them will see the video and realise they need to think about their tyres if they want to be safe year round!
@samuelrodriguez931
@samuelrodriguez931 5 жыл бұрын
Can u guys please do a all season tires vs winter tires
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 жыл бұрын
It's on the list for next year :)
@curtiselford5194
@curtiselford5194 5 жыл бұрын
This is the more relevant comparison. I've heard lots of people argue their all seasons are fine in winter. Not heard anyone claim they get around on summer performance tires.
@cpfranger
@cpfranger 5 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e6lheJWWqdqVeo0.html
@filip3148
@filip3148 5 жыл бұрын
All seasons are barely better than summer tires
@cpfranger
@cpfranger 5 жыл бұрын
​@@filip3148 "barely" is rather relative, but it is measurable. All seasons tires are around about 12% faster then summer... Winter tires are around 39% better then summer. Tire Rack did a really good video. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fdKJeLB5lpa-ZKc.html much shorter and without any of the filler fluff. Less then 4min and really worth a watch for anyone interested in a good comparison
@marcusgrotenfelt4075
@marcusgrotenfelt4075 4 жыл бұрын
You dont buy AWD because you dont want to buy winter tires. You buy AWD AND winter tires.
@smackdowner
@smackdowner 4 жыл бұрын
Yup
@0farmerjohn0
@0farmerjohn0 3 жыл бұрын
Tell that to any if not all the Americans. They'll tell you awd + all season tyres are all you need. I once counted 52 passenger vehicles crashed on the side of the interstate from Chicago to Omaha. You see a lot of cars and trucks struggling for traction in the winter in the city.
@taylormartin4281
@taylormartin4281 3 жыл бұрын
Meh. My 06 Impreza does an amazing job during the winter months here in north central Montana.
@robertintergrale
@robertintergrale 3 жыл бұрын
yes do both !! awd and winter times,, best you can get!!
@vernonpaigejr.1517
@vernonpaigejr.1517 3 жыл бұрын
@@0farmerjohn0 I don't in my 4WD Navigator. Then again. I still drive like it's a RWD car on summer tires. Steady pace. Then again. It weighs 6200 lbs
@CCdePlicque
@CCdePlicque 4 жыл бұрын
would be interesting to see the difference between 2-wheel drive and four wheel drive with cars fitted with identical snow tyres. In most Finnish towns and citiies we use combination tyres - snow compound with studs in for (hopefully) ice grip. on mtbs too ;)
@francisgaliegue6645
@francisgaliegue6645 5 жыл бұрын
Getting on the track with summer tyres? Clarkson method: "Poweeeeer!" Jokes aside, though, as many comments have pointed out, the result was obvious from the start, but seeing it "in the flesh", so to speak, is something else. Thanks a LOT for this video. Although this is not much, I'll do my best to broadcast it as far as I can manage. I do not believe there was ever a video illustrating the difference to that extent!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support :) It means a lot to me.
@francisgaliegue6645
@francisgaliegue6645 5 жыл бұрын
@@tyrereviews you're welcome! However, it is spelled "obstacle" :p
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 жыл бұрын
@@francisgaliegue6645 drat, where did I make the error?!
@francisgaliegue6645
@francisgaliegue6645 5 жыл бұрын
@@tyrereviews 3:36 spells... Well, I'll let you find out :p
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 жыл бұрын
@@francisgaliegue6645 Oh crap lol, you're the first and only person to spot that, I even had about 10 people check the video for errors. You should get a job as a proof reader!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 жыл бұрын
Edit 2: Quattro VS XDrive! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jdtnZddyrJith4U.html Edit: As requested in comments I will be doing all season vs winter tyres AND 4wd vs 2wd on the same tyres so make sure you subscribe to youtube! Hi Guys, I hope you all enjoyed the video. For those of you saying it should have been all season tyres vs winter tyres, there's a few points around that. Firstly, in Europe where winter tyres aren't a legal requirement, everyone runs "summer" tyres year round. Secondly, the new breed of European all season tyres are pretty much winter tyres (apart from the CrossClimate), so the differences would have been massive compared to the summer tyre, the 4x4 on a european all season tyre would have probably out performed the fwd on winter tyres. American all season tyres are different, they're not actually that much better than summer tyres on snow, so the overall results would have been fairly similar. Either way, I take everyones comments on board and will make a video next year showing the differences between all the different tyre types :)
@steelski01
@steelski01 5 жыл бұрын
Really High Quality video as usual. Really enjoyed it, I just put on my winter boots (tires) and am looking forward to some snow.
@infrawiz
@infrawiz 5 жыл бұрын
so, what about a typical Dutch winter? (2 days of snow and the rest bits of frozen/unfrozen parts of snow/ice due to temp changes) and Premium allseasons and AWD (subaru) ?
@Florian1095
@Florian1095 5 жыл бұрын
In some European countries like Germany and Austria winter tires are a legal requirement during winter conditions. Which in my opinion is a really good thing, especially after this test
@infrawiz
@infrawiz 5 жыл бұрын
@@Florian1095 I agree, point is over here the temps go up and down, the weather changes day by day. and with temps +7C premium summer or all season are better i think?
@GGMan
@GGMan 5 жыл бұрын
My SUV came with tyres rated for M+S but are crap in winter (from the reviews I read), so switched to CrossClimate (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j7VgrdyCzZjQY4E.html) just before 'Beast from the East' hit.
@federicolucasmiro8645
@federicolucasmiro8645 Жыл бұрын
This is a very good test! Now we can see the real difference between winter and summer tires, excellent. Thanks. The one you did with the Amarok didn’t work because the Amarok without weight on the back can’t do anything.
@TheLaualamp
@TheLaualamp 4 жыл бұрын
Would like to see a review between actual studded tires as well, these are still the standard in my country.
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 5 жыл бұрын
Love it mate, so many bell ends that believe their Range Rovers clad with super wide summer's are safe during freezing winters... Wrong!
@andylie7699
@andylie7699 5 жыл бұрын
@mstrbkr all seasons are still unsafe in the winter... Winter tires is a must when its cold out
@obsidian_blue
@obsidian_blue 5 жыл бұрын
Im not sure that’s true - quality All Seasons with a winter bias have 90% of the capabilities of full winters these days ‘when its cold out’. You’ll only notice a significant difference on packed snow/ice
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 жыл бұрын
There's a big difference between American and European all season tyres which is why there's some confusion in the comments
@ceunny
@ceunny 5 жыл бұрын
I drive a range rover sport with pirelli p zero’s and with a little snow +|- 10cm i am fine but when i go skiing i use my pirelli soto zero’s
@RaymondLo84
@RaymondLo84 5 жыл бұрын
@@tyrereviews Can you show us the differences?
@razvanon
@razvanon 5 жыл бұрын
I can see that you've tested summer clothes too!
@atentat07
@atentat07 5 жыл бұрын
Yup. Useless test. Should have tested with all season clothes.
@zots3807
@zots3807 5 жыл бұрын
hahaha
@javierpuchetovich3307
@javierpuchetovich3307 5 жыл бұрын
gay comment :P
@aaasssppp123
@aaasssppp123 5 жыл бұрын
more like tight fitting women's clothes!
@thelining4078
@thelining4078 5 жыл бұрын
The point of wearing just a shirt in winter is to SHOW BICEPS (or what’s supposed to be muscles).
@pnwadventurist
@pnwadventurist 2 жыл бұрын
It is amazing how much engineering and science is put towards the development of tires. Something you would quickly think is easy probably takes years and many brains to figure out the best patterns and material to fit different environments
@annarobin28
@annarobin28 3 жыл бұрын
thank you so much to see that difference between sommer and winter tires ;)))
@Dragon228833
@Dragon228833 4 жыл бұрын
Are we gonna just ignore the fact he’s wearing a tee shirt in sub zero weather
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
It has ben noted
@avatara82
@avatara82 4 жыл бұрын
So?
@colslw760
@colslw760 4 жыл бұрын
it's a flex
@johngaudet6316
@johngaudet6316 4 жыл бұрын
Cold nippies.
@tomaszek8888
@tomaszek8888 4 жыл бұрын
Well, it's bmw
@CarThrottle
@CarThrottle 5 жыл бұрын
Odd flex on some tyres sometimes but these looked ok.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 жыл бұрын
I love you
@timap5584
@timap5584 5 жыл бұрын
Oh hell no
@adamzamecnik9160
@adamzamecnik9160 5 жыл бұрын
Weird flex but ok
@alexb5275
@alexb5275 5 жыл бұрын
Stop
@matthewfitch2456
@matthewfitch2456 5 жыл бұрын
Preposterous boast but alas
@Raoul_Volfoni
@Raoul_Volfoni Жыл бұрын
There is a huge difference between summer and winter tyres : my own experience: an Audi Q7 with summer time was not able at all to climb a steep snowy slope while a Peugeot 807 V6 minivan equiped with Michelin Alpin 4 was able to climb it without any difficulty. The Michelin Alpin tyres are really outstanding since the gen 4.
@62Sketch
@62Sketch 4 жыл бұрын
Years ago I discovered the magic of winter tires. Put 4 Blizzaks on my Supra Turbo. Wow, what a blast. The look on the faces of the people in their 4WD SUVs with all season tires as I motored by them was priceless.
@DogAndLinuxLover
@DogAndLinuxLover 4 жыл бұрын
Great info. I always knew there was a difference in tires. I've driven with snow tires in winter but never seen a controlled test like this. Was time well spent. Thank you!
@hoppysport2872
@hoppysport2872 5 жыл бұрын
I live in Manhattan and have always run winter tires. My 2008 SAAB 9-5 is a mountain goat with winter tires. Every November I do a changeover to my Winter Tires. I'm currently running Yokohama iceGuard iG52c tires. They work well. Not quite as good as the top of the line Nokian or Blizzak winter tires, but close. I've attempted to tell my friends and family to buy winter tires, and all tell me that they have AWD, and don't want to spend the money. In Manhattan there is a ramp that goes around Grand Central from Park Avenue & 46th Street. Last week we had an icy snowstorm. As I approached, cars and AWD vehicles (Escalades, Audi Q5, BMW X5, Toyota RAV4) were backing down the ramp because they couldn't gain traction. I zipped right up the ramp in my SAAB 9-5 clad in Winter Tires. It's complete idiocy to drive in the wintertime with anything other than Winter Tires. I bought my first set in the 90's and have never looked back.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 жыл бұрын
At least now you've a video to show them :)
@hoppysport2872
@hoppysport2872 5 жыл бұрын
@@tyrereviews Can't wait for the All-Season vs. Winter Tire comparo. That should be fun! I've seen other winter tire videos, but yours blew them out of the water. Bravo!
@samhaben6905
@samhaben6905 5 жыл бұрын
Bill Feinberg as a former 05 9-5 ARC owner best car I’ve ever owned and a complete beast in the snow. Swedes make good cars. Now however the XC90 might be the greatest winter vehicle of all time.
@YOLOnyc
@YOLOnyc 5 жыл бұрын
*That ramp is crazy when it's icy, it runs through the Helmsley Building hotel and over Grand Central Station.* if anyone has seen the Will Smith movie I Am Legend, it's the place where he is talking to the statue and he thinks it's talking back to him, although that scene doesn't really show the steeper ramp on the other side of the building.
@Simon-eh5ez
@Simon-eh5ez 5 жыл бұрын
I have never understood how so many people in the world doesn't understand that tires are super important. I live in Trollhättan, Sweden and it is illegal not to have winter tyres during the winter period. Summer tires is stupid in the snow, and people trying to go "but i have AWD" must be incompetent. Braking and handling is more important than acceleration and awd doesn't brake or steer on any better than FWD or RWD. Also, the 9-5 is great in the snow. We got some sudden snowfall a while back and i was on summer tires on my winter beater -03 wagon. Obviously i went home and changed to studded winter tires and boy was it fun to see the difference in the same car with only about 15-20 minutes between the drives. The summer tires were fresh but the winter tires are pretty worn and the difference is huge anyway. Summer tires, snow and the old saab factory area was however pretty good for some skids.
@rbarbosa6160
@rbarbosa6160 3 жыл бұрын
I've been trying to find videos with information on what is best to drive on the snow since I had a terrible experience driving on snow last time I went to the French Alps. I thought a 4WD would do the job and it didnt, it had no winter tires on, only the 4WD and those terrible chains (took me an hour to figure it out how to put them on and another hour to take them off)!! Thank you so much for this video! helped me a lot on renting the right car for my next winter vacations! Now I only go for 4WD with winter tires!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 3 жыл бұрын
4wd with winter tyres will be an amazing experience!
@josephgozditis6815
@josephgozditis6815 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for proving my point. I always put dedicated snow tires on a FWD vehicle and always said it gives better traction than an AWD with all season tires
@Kyntteri
@Kyntteri 5 жыл бұрын
Tow truck drivers hate him! See how he stayed on the road with one simple trick.
@Coolgamer400
@Coolgamer400 5 жыл бұрын
4WD can't eliminate physics.
@derekbrigham191
@derekbrigham191 4 жыл бұрын
I found this very useful and saves a lot of money. Thank you.
@frankromani2259
@frankromani2259 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Very informative and well shot! What video editor do you use? The motion tracking is really awesome 👍🏼
@TheRip72
@TheRip72 4 жыл бұрын
I expected the winter 2WD would be better than summer AWD in snow, but did not realise the difference would be so big. I am one of the few in the UK who use winter tyres in cold months. After seeing this, I'll be keeping them.
@TheRip72
@TheRip72 Жыл бұрын
@@SimonWoodburyForget Yes, but it is always safer to stay at home rather than go out? By that reasoning, maybe you'll stay at home for the rest of your life?
@BaldKiwi117
@BaldKiwi117 Жыл бұрын
@@SimonWoodburyForget not really an option sometimes.
@mr.wizeguy8995
@mr.wizeguy8995 Жыл бұрын
@@SimonWoodburyForget Most accidents happen at home also most people die at home...so.
@cautarepvp2079
@cautarepvp2079 Жыл бұрын
@@TheRip72 ahahah good one
@jaysoncrichton-stuart9727
@jaysoncrichton-stuart9727 5 жыл бұрын
I never tire of this man talking about tyres.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 жыл бұрын
haha thank you :)
@ronaldofajardo1833
@ronaldofajardo1833 2 жыл бұрын
That conclusion was what i was wanted to hear thank you very much, very funny video.
@AK.__
@AK.__ Жыл бұрын
Great video and thanks for efforts. The dedicated summer tires are out of question in the winter. However, the more interesting comparison will be "AWD with all-season tires" vs "RWD with winter tires" vs "FWD with winter tires"
@scrambler69-xk3kv
@scrambler69-xk3kv 9 ай бұрын
If you are old enough, you would know the answer to this question. Winter tires on all is the answer. does not matter how many wheels have power, if they unable to get a grip then you will be stuck. Front wheel drive with winters are awesome. Trust me been driving 53 years. Plowed snow for a local school district for 35 years and was on the road all hours of the night in horrible winter storms traveling between schools and I saw it all, 4x4's with all season tires stuck. front wheel drives equipped with winter tires going in snow like it was summer.
@AK.__
@AK.__ 9 ай бұрын
@@scrambler69-xk3kv Fully agree. Winter tires. As many other people in the are, i keep dedicated set winter tires+ rims. 18" for winter and 20" other than winters.
@1061shrink1061
@1061shrink1061 5 жыл бұрын
sadly I knew the answer to this before I even pressed play. People don't realise how much difference the tyres make, and also people don't realise how ill equipped they are just because they have a 4WD car. What really gets me is the idiots in range rovers that think they're invincible just because they're in a giant 4wd car, driving too fast and too close. Forgetting of course that 4WD has no effect on the braking! all cars have 4 wheel braking ;) and an ultra light small car will still outbrake a range rover in the snow. A little learning would go a long way to helping people in this country cope with winter conditions.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 жыл бұрын
Lets hope some of the Range Rover crew see this video and decide they'd like some winter tyre safety this year!
@1061shrink1061
@1061shrink1061 5 жыл бұрын
even some decent all seasons like the cross contacts are pretty decent on these larger heavier cars. Have driven the current autobiography SV on the continentals, and it felt unstoppable (in a good way).
@yorkshiredefender1105
@yorkshiredefender1105 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah but a Range Rover with the right tyres are pretty unstoppable
@PiotrPilinko
@PiotrPilinko 5 жыл бұрын
All modern cars are breaking using all four wheels (independently). So there was no surprise...
@XtreeM_FaiL
@XtreeM_FaiL 5 жыл бұрын
Shrink1061 ...and ~80% braking force comes from the front tyres.
@asusmofo
@asusmofo 5 жыл бұрын
The answer is yes. 2WD or 4WD. Don't be stupid. Buy winter tires.
@XA351GT
@XA351GT 5 жыл бұрын
1st thing I did was buy a extra set of rims when we bought my wife's Subaru Crosstrek for snow tires. People looked at me like I was crazy . With those tires it is a absolute tank in the snow which is what I wanted for her as she is terrified of driving snow after being dragged backwards down hill by a car that lost it and hooked bumpers with wj\hen she was just learning to drive decades ago. She now has the confidence to drive in snow . I just wish others would invest in snow tires as it wouldn't have taken me 2 1/2 hours to drive 20 miles home in the last storm because everyone else was stuck and I drive a 2010 Fusion sport FWD with Bridgestone Blizzacks. I had zero issues with traction everyone no so much.
@krane15
@krane15 5 жыл бұрын
Only because I saw this video. Its no longer just your word vs another.
@DatlTAE
@DatlTAE 5 жыл бұрын
I find it interesting watching these 40 to 60 thousand dollar trucks struggle with all seasons. While I cruise safely around the mountain passes of Wyoming and idaho in a 2010 fusion and winter tires. I mean I have spent a winter driving all seasons but they were brand new and i got stuck countless times. All I can say is whether 4 wheel or 2 wheel have winter tires... and for the benefits of 4 wheel over 2 wheel with the price; unless your driving a old trailblazer or a Silverado it's only good for getting you moving up inclines or on deeper snow. Even then never had issue with front wheel also dont have to worry about over steering
@alansach8437
@alansach8437 4 жыл бұрын
Buy winter tires and put them on your 4WD.
@LFC-Star
@LFC-Star 4 жыл бұрын
driving a 4WD on summer tyres is crazy on snow as all 4 wheels would slide.. So get All Seasons or winter tyres..
@markojokanovic349
@markojokanovic349 11 ай бұрын
Finally someone made the test that I find most crucial of all: snow conditions and downhill! Besides the point: I'm not sure if people are aware of how skilled this driver is. I can tell by many small things with that BMW on summer tires. Impressive skills!
@Bamsebrakar2011
@Bamsebrakar2011 2 жыл бұрын
Type and make of tyre makes a big difference too. Nordic (3PMSF type) winter tyres make a big difference on snow and ice vs M+S tyres. The ones that score best in tests year after year are Continental VC7, Goodyear Ultra Grip 2, Pielli IceZero and Nokian Hakkapellitta R3. Michelin X-Ice Snow are also very good on snow. I personally have Goodyear Ultra Grip as an all-round favourite, but it does drpend on whether you have a FWD, RWD or 4WD car, and also on the size (weight) of car. My experience is that Nokian Hakka R3 are very good on smaller FWD cars.
@MercenaryJoe
@MercenaryJoe 5 жыл бұрын
Okay, next do tire chains vs racing slicks.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 жыл бұрын
ok!
@MrOnemanop
@MrOnemanop 5 жыл бұрын
(Savage!)
@Jasonhalls
@Jasonhalls 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrOnemanop Agreed and about as relevant lol
@mcthunderstick2374
@mcthunderstick2374 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonhalls I live in Canada, there are thousands of people every year who use summers in the snow. Don't talk if you do not know the facts. Child.
@Jasonhalls
@Jasonhalls 5 жыл бұрын
@@mcthunderstick2374 ROTFL your as big a genius as this video review. The debate was about the use of ABS in the snow, not summer tires in the snow. That was the video not the comment you are responding too rotfl. LOL he sees fit to comment and can't even follow along. rotfl, gotta love the web. Full of genius's.
@ThoughtBecomeThing
@ThoughtBecomeThing 5 жыл бұрын
It will be interesting to try comparation FWD vs RWD in snow conditions. But try with TC on and TC off.
@YOLOnyc
@YOLOnyc 5 жыл бұрын
*RWD with TC turned off in a car with an open differential in the snow is like transporting yourself back to snow driving in the 1960s/70s/80s,* the car will pull itself sideways literally at every application of throttle. Driving like that is extremely challenging (I've tried it...)
@ilikevideos1444
@ilikevideos1444 5 жыл бұрын
@@YOLOnyc i daily drive a RWD 1988 volvo 740 in sweden :P
@ThoughtBecomeThing
@ThoughtBecomeThing 5 жыл бұрын
@@YOLOnyc I am not so sure is TC help in some scenarios in snow. Especially when you need speed to drive through deep snow.
@lewis72
@lewis72 5 жыл бұрын
I've got a RWD 1987 Ford Granada Scorpio on 195/65-15 Uniroyal winters and it got through everything last winter. I even went up a steep hill where a Disco and 2 other cars had stopped mid-way with their hazards on as they'd given up !! The car was immense. ABS didn't fire very often when braking either. I wish it were the 4x4 version though, as that (as with the XR4x4) has funky viscous diffs, so you don't have to wait for any DSC or whatever to kick in.
@fav675
@fav675 5 жыл бұрын
you mean locked differential. with open diff you have one wheel drive. and you will struggle a lot more to go sideways than with a lsd. @@YOLOnyc
@ChrisHardwickanimaladventures
@ChrisHardwickanimaladventures Жыл бұрын
I got my first true winter tires this year, they are amazing. Driving on snow and ice is like driving on dry ground.
@Rmf8
@Rmf8 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. People hugely underestimate braking in snow on summer tyres! This was a great test and really highlights the benefits of winter tyres.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@funitoo
@funitoo 5 жыл бұрын
You mean overestimate? ;)
@GlacierFreeze
@GlacierFreeze 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, such a huge difference! Never would've known it was so much. Thanks for the video!
@Bronek0990
@Bronek0990 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't 4WD only affect acceleration? I can't imagine it having much impact on handling in corners or during braking, so I don't see how this is surprising.
@vilshe7449
@vilshe7449 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bronek0990 4WD helps a ton while cornering at high speeds but also weighs more, so it makes braking worse.
@MLG7707
@MLG7707 3 жыл бұрын
you are the tyre guru dude :)) we like your videos and definite information. you are really usefull youtuber :))
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@grayswandircorwin1326
@grayswandircorwin1326 4 жыл бұрын
Finally a clear test, with a result you cannot debate on.
@davedammitt7691
@davedammitt7691 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah ya can. Use the same driver. One is clearly incompetent
@morgandrives
@morgandrives 5 жыл бұрын
Hi there. Have you done a similar comparison with Winter tires and All-season tires? Would love to see how they compare. Clearly Summer tires are useless in the winter, but are good all-seasons on a 4WD close to good Winters on 2WD?
@mobilebmxer69
@mobilebmxer69 5 жыл бұрын
Morgan Gregory I have some experience with this. I had some BFG all seasons on my Subaru Forester and they preformed surprisingly well. Good all seasons will definitely get the job done, however winter tires still have a good advantage. With AWD, in most cases, you can’t tell the difference when accelerating. When it comes to braking and handling there is defiantly an advantage to the winter tires, but it is not a night and day difference. What is a night and day difference is the way the car feels on snow and ice. The winter tires are much more confidence inspiring when you inevitably find yourself sliding a bit. The car is much more responsive to your corrections and thus make it easier to control. So, if you have the money to spare for a set of dedicated winter tires, you won’t regret it. If not, good all seasons won’t have a problem getting the job done. Hope this helps!
@The_Benjamins
@The_Benjamins 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to see this test too
@mobilebmxer69
@mobilebmxer69 5 жыл бұрын
It is also important to note that just like any other tire, there is a big difference between low end and high end winter tires.
@DustinTavo
@DustinTavo 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, who buys summer tires where it snows like this?
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 жыл бұрын
It depends if you mean american market all season, or European all season. A European all season is pretty much as good as a winter tyre in most conditions now, there's a very blurred line between the two. American all season tyres aren't much better than summer tyres in snow, maybe 10% at best, so the results would be very similar to this video. Either way, I should have a video out next year covering all the different tyre types :)
@ivaylofilipov4803
@ivaylofilipov4803 5 жыл бұрын
Please do this tests with 4WD+All Season tires vs 2WD+Winter ties
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 жыл бұрын
On the list for next year :)
@bigronvfr750
@bigronvfr750 5 жыл бұрын
Tyre Reviews look forward too that cross climates please
@Rusiputki
@Rusiputki 5 жыл бұрын
Why? You already know the answer. It's common sense
@ivaylofilipov4803
@ivaylofilipov4803 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but in my opinion more "common sense" is test like this... The new All Season tires like Nokian WeatherProof and GoodYear Vector 4 Seasons Gen2 are very close to pure winter tires in tests
@matthew8193
@matthew8193 5 жыл бұрын
Ivaylo Filipov get mud tires u fucking yankee yeee yeeeee brother
@BionicRusty
@BionicRusty 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant comparison. 👏👏 Thank you. Proves what sensible people know but what most in the UK can neither afford nor justify. And by justify, I mean regarding the couple of bad days most of the UK has.
@kollerbrian
@kollerbrian 4 жыл бұрын
Decent way to explain through this video. Summer tires turn into hockey pucks in below freezing. Decent Video, Brian K
@bbbt8090
@bbbt8090 5 жыл бұрын
I understand why you made the comparison but lets have a AWD vehicle with all season tires vs RWD/FWD with winter tires Keep these vids coming, people need to be educated on how important tires play a roll in safety.
@hwn6098
@hwn6098 5 жыл бұрын
Especially interested in RWD tests with winter tyres vs FWD with winter tyres
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 жыл бұрын
I'll add it to the list of things to do :)
@123macbookair
@123macbookair 5 жыл бұрын
Afya did they have winters?
@nirfz
@nirfz 5 жыл бұрын
If you take any bets, mine would be in breaking the winter tire 2wd vehicles win, and in accelleration all three are almost equal (1 fwd 2 awd 3 rwd if the engines are in front), and in the timed lap and emergency lane change the 2wd winter tire vehicles beat the all season awd.
@123macbookair
@123macbookair 5 жыл бұрын
Afya I’ve got a RWD with winters, yet to use them in snow though. I’m confident in them because I even managed early this year in snow/ice with my summers. They were awful but me and the car survived
@Conservator.
@Conservator. 5 жыл бұрын
I went to freezing Northern Finland and all I wore was this lousy T-shirt.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 жыл бұрын
It was surprisingly warm!
@MrJohann2222
@MrJohann2222 5 жыл бұрын
Pure Goodyear ad Get the best...Continental Winter Tyres. Year after year, the beat results. A true winner.
@rosteriperse
@rosteriperse 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrJohann2222 That wasnt Continental, that was Nokian.
@olof1pako
@olof1pako 5 жыл бұрын
Because Vodka Finlandia 40% was warming up xD
@Conservator.
@Conservator. 5 жыл бұрын
olof1pako 🤣
@robbabcock_
@robbabcock_ 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! I knew winter tires would perform better but I didn't realize the difference was so profound!
@FantaBH
@FantaBH 4 жыл бұрын
Well, I expected something more than to see well known rule, do not drive summer tires at winter conditions. It doesn't matter if it is dry or wet or snowy, simple lowe temp change summer tires into something very dangerous to drive. Anyway, great channel and good video, so you know what is next :)
@waynenelson8531
@waynenelson8531 5 жыл бұрын
I was a tire tech for 20 years, the cheapest dedicated winter tires will outperform the best all season tires in every way that counts, my personal vehicle has 2sets of tires, I won't have to buy tires for 5 or 6 years, and piece of mind when winter arrives.
@piciu256
@piciu256 4 жыл бұрын
No a low quality winter tire will not outperform any all season tire, not by a long shot, its not as good in the dry/ wet braking, it's only a bit better in the snow, depending where you live one or the other is more important, here where I live there sometimes is snow, but mostly its just cold rain or cold dry day in winter, so an all season tire is superior in most conditions, and in the snow one cannot go very fast anyway, partly because of the summer tire guys blocking the road.
@Swarmah
@Swarmah 4 жыл бұрын
Here in latvia, from first of november til 1st of april you hhave to use winter tyres, and every person who owns a car has both sets of tyres. If youre driving summer tyres in winter, and cops catch you, which usually happens, cos well, you can see those people sliding over the roads, your licence plate gets taken, you get fined, get points on your licence, you lose your cars technical inspection, so it means you will have to redo yearly technical inspection, even if you passed it like a week ago, before winter tyre season. And so, you have to take your car on a trailer to change tyres, then only with a trailer to technical inspection, because without it, you are forbidden to ride.
@Apfelstrudl
@Apfelstrudl 4 жыл бұрын
@@Swarmah wow.. we also have mandatory winter tyres in these months at snowy conditions in austria.. but why should you not be allowed to put them on yourself?
@Swarmah
@Swarmah 4 жыл бұрын
@@Apfelstrudl you are, but if you have no second set rims, your technical inspection is deprived, so you are forbidden to move it. Kinda forced to take it to repair shop, if you were such an idiot to drive with winter tyres, and get technical inspection, licence plates and insurance taken, cos without neither of them you are forbidden to drive.
@piciu256
@piciu256 4 жыл бұрын
@@Swarmah yeah, surely there are places where a proper winter tire is a much better idea that an all season tire, but I bet in those places one could argue that an all season tire could be better than a proper summer tire, but there are a lot of places where a proper winter tire is disadvantageous in most situations, even in winter, as I said- it all depends on where you live.
@stevedoe1630
@stevedoe1630 5 жыл бұрын
As a young lad, I used to have a FWD car with summer tires, and braved a couple New England winters with this configuration. It was horrible...I’d never do that again, and would never recommend to others. Used to take ski trips around Vermont and New Hampshire. On more than one occasion, I had to spend an extra night simply because couldn’t drive out of the parking lot. However, I did learn quite well how to maneuver the car in slippery conditions (feather the handbrake, counter steering, etc.) It really was dangerous to drive like this, and there were several close call situations. (Being cheap isn’t worth it, especially when it comes to winter driving.)
@housepianist
@housepianist 5 жыл бұрын
Steve Doe I can definitely relate. Back in 2003 I had a GTI with summer tires and drove it during a couple winters in Nebraska. It truly was a bad idea but on occasion, I would go out at night and drive around the neighborhood to learn how to drive on them in the snow. I actually got reasonably good at it provided I would accelerate very slowly and braked WAY before my stopping point. It was actually kind of fun and I learned a lot about the finer points of car control but I never did that again after that!
@stevenreichertart
@stevenreichertart 3 жыл бұрын
Great demonstration! Not even close.
@mcdswitzerland9196
@mcdswitzerland9196 3 жыл бұрын
Really good video. and Good Lesson
@andreiarama8745
@andreiarama8745 5 жыл бұрын
You don't even have to watch the video to know the answer. Of course winter tires !!! Why ? Because you need to brake !!!
@piddy2
@piddy2 5 жыл бұрын
Obviously. This is to show what the difference is, showing you just how much better it is
@spraypainting1982
@spraypainting1982 4 жыл бұрын
I hope this video will save lives. Tires matter.
@noricardas1
@noricardas1 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the time my car got delivered with used up summer tires. The car hauler guy just dropped it into the snow (it was January) and said good luck, so without a licence plate, without full documentation of the car ownership, other then than purchase check, I had to drive to the nearest shop to change the tires. (It was a paid parking lot where my car was dropped of, to get a licence plate, I need to pass inspection, which I cannot do without winter tires)
@socialperson9983
@socialperson9983 2 жыл бұрын
For those who are saying they should have compared All Seasons to Winter. I disagree. Many people think winter tires are a sham so they skip out on them. This is a great video to prove otherwise.
@jamisusijarvi646
@jamisusijarvi646 4 жыл бұрын
As a person who drives 6months with winter tires this test feels weird :D 4x4 helps of course when accelerating but thats it. And even in accelerating of course it doesnt have as good friction as winter ones.
@SINIS0RSA
@SINIS0RSA 5 жыл бұрын
Most of us Finns use studded tires in Winter. They offer good grip no matter what car are you driving. Most of us also use narrower wheels/tires in winter to make the traction even better..
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 жыл бұрын
I'll be doing a stud video next year :)
@paulozavala3232
@paulozavala3232 5 жыл бұрын
I think the ratio in Sweden is 80/20. 80 studded 20 non studded. But they say (reviews) that the difference never have been smaller than now in comparasion but still advantage for studded on blank ice. Oh and please. Use Nokian Hakkepeliita winter tyres next year because they are the best!
@ehsnils
@ehsnils 5 жыл бұрын
Also bring in tire width into the factor - with different surfaces too, so snow, ice and bare paving.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 жыл бұрын
There's two videos about tyre with / size on the channel already :)
@garypCronshaw
@garypCronshaw 5 жыл бұрын
That's the way to do it! In the UK we would need loads more snow though. I used studded tyres ten years ago but they used to wear like mad and ping out of the tread, great in the hard snow and ice though.
@mary-ud2wp
@mary-ud2wp Жыл бұрын
I live in Vermont and have all wheel drive and winter tires. They make a difference.
@KBosch-xp2ut
@KBosch-xp2ut Жыл бұрын
This video should be required watching for anyone taking their driver’s exam.
@ELP_tech
@ELP_tech 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing content! Thanks for a good information what I have always wanted to know!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@Billy-rr7re
@Billy-rr7re 5 жыл бұрын
yes, people think of 4wd as some magical system that will always prevent them losing grip or getting stuck
@trajanaugustus8783
@trajanaugustus8783 5 жыл бұрын
Well having driven both FWD and 4wd in ice and snow I can see the 4wd is kind of magical. Have yet to get stuck, and it is great in wet or snowy road conditions. Of course you still need to drive careful, as I have also seen 4wd folks think they can do anything and land upside down in a ditch. Control is everything.
@PhilbyFavourites
@PhilbyFavourites 5 жыл бұрын
Two words: Audi Quattro
@LaggerSVK
@LaggerSVK 5 жыл бұрын
The 4wd is good when accelerating. When it comes to braking and cornering the difference diminishes or is so small that model difference is bigger. So you accelerate very easily but then you are as all others on the road without major advantage. Tires are everything and good control system helps a lot.
@S2audicoupeS2
@S2audicoupeS2 5 жыл бұрын
@@LaggerSVK Breaking, Yes, agreed - no diffeence between 2wd and 4wd - but BIG difference in cornering on bad conditions and acclerating out of corners. diff between 4wd and Fwd is bigger than between 4wd and RWD by the way.
@LaggerSVK
@LaggerSVK 5 жыл бұрын
S2audicoupeS2 Ingolstadt you are still limited by that rubbery compound and powertrain cant change that (except the weight distribution that might be implied by powertrain). Maybe systems like ESP and so but these systems are incorporated regardless of powertrain type. Yes you will have better corner exit but that doesnt counter my point.
@Sweetheartbabez
@Sweetheartbabez 4 жыл бұрын
This was a well done and very fun and informative video so thumbs up. However I wish you guys would have done it using all season tires vs winter tires. As most people use all season tires in the winter. Never heard of anyone using summer times in winter unless they have a death wish.
@jessical6944
@jessical6944 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing content!
@aikxn
@aikxn 4 жыл бұрын
3:02 I was waiting for a side view, 4WD was moonwalkin 😂 🤣
@iAPX432
@iAPX432 4 жыл бұрын
This is really eye-opening and educative, this is a short video that every apprentice driver must watch where I am (Montréal), and also experienced driver too! Thanks!
@ericmeechglobalnetwork2273
@ericmeechglobalnetwork2273 3 жыл бұрын
Surprising, but not surprising... but interesting. Thank you for this.
@georgepriv7674
@georgepriv7674 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree that 2 drive with winter tyres are much safer than 4 with summer tyres but from my experience X-Drive in particular (4WD) has many advantages over 2WD with the proper tyres.
@MeganoOdles
@MeganoOdles 5 жыл бұрын
The smugness from 4x4 drivers in the UK on default summer tyres, til I breeze pass them in my RWD BMW on winters tyres during Jan/Feb time.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 жыл бұрын
I love that move :)
@Feroxing12
@Feroxing12 4 жыл бұрын
bmw red+snow=hapiness
@daniellopezhernandez6586
@daniellopezhernandez6586 4 жыл бұрын
He has to show up his big biceps at any price
@LFC-Star
@LFC-Star 4 жыл бұрын
the other day we had a freak heavy snowfall and I went out to see who was out on the roads in it and to gloat at people getting stuck.. cos I've winter tyres on my FWD car .. Even those in Land Rovers / Ranger Rovers and other 4WD's were going at snails pace.. They were going at snails pace cos they were on summer tyres.. So I drove through the middle snow drift to over take them lol. I drove up a 1:3 hill no problem.. Thesre was a RWD Audi saloon sliding all over barely getting up the hill on summer tyres.. Then I heard reports of people banging into each other as they were in the town I was in Shropshire. In my winter tyres I'd have no issues lol.. It should now be compluslory in the UK to put on winter tyres.. From end of October to March.
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 4 жыл бұрын
Is it illegal in the UK to drive with summer tires in the winter?
@Mrtopsecretuser
@Mrtopsecretuser 4 жыл бұрын
Summer tires are for summer. It does not matter if you have six wheel drive. The rubber compound is way different. And snow tires are made to make snow stick. Because the best traction on snow is the snow stuck to your tires. All seasons are for places with very little snow and increase your braking length in wet asphalt dramatically just like winter tires on rain. Not to be recommended. Like so people can learn and be safe on the road.
@tarmo3
@tarmo3 3 жыл бұрын
diference in braking on wet asphalt between summer tire, allseason, nordic tire or studed tire is far less than same test on snow or ice. you are definitely safer with studed tires in summer than summer tires in winter
@Killyang
@Killyang 4 жыл бұрын
Great video thank you! Could you also make a video that is all season on AWD vs summer tires on 2WD in the rain? There seems to be a very strong misconception that summer tires are no good in the rain when in fact they are far superior in my experience. I would love to be able to show a video as proof to all the non believers.
@rjacobb
@rjacobb 4 жыл бұрын
Nailed it straight into the snow bank.
@Neil2022
@Neil2022 5 жыл бұрын
Getting my winters put on my 4WD this afternoon. That will be me sorted!
@marfrandema1884
@marfrandema1884 5 жыл бұрын
I guess you live in a heavy snow place, cause otherwise allseason is the best way to go.
@thomasautengruber8369
@thomasautengruber8369 5 жыл бұрын
Marfran Dema it‘s not
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 жыл бұрын
You should be just fine :)
@jaydunbar7538
@jaydunbar7538 5 жыл бұрын
@@thomasautengruber8369 for most people yes it is, if you get an inch of a snow all winter buying dedicated winter tires is a waste. He didn't say all seasons are the way to go if you live above the artic circle,try to read and understand the full comment.
@Neil2022
@Neil2022 5 жыл бұрын
Jay Dunbar I live in the north east of England, last year I couldn’t get much further than my drive for a couple of weeks. I have to travel up the dales quite a lot so we see plenty of snow. It’s not just about the snow either it’s about the poor performance in low temp. I looked at all seasons but I cannot get a premium in my odd size wheels.
@JohnLumapaskeith
@JohnLumapaskeith 4 жыл бұрын
"I've been a sled" 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣
@rodcros
@rodcros 4 жыл бұрын
Last year some Canadian journalists did a winter tires comparison to all-seasons, and to worn-out winter tires. To everyone's surprise, the worn-out winters still performed well, much better than the all-seasons.
@manfirebirdF350
@manfirebirdF350 2 жыл бұрын
i thought the same in first, thanks for sharing
@sinegra30
@sinegra30 5 жыл бұрын
Excelent! It would be nice to try the same test on a couple of non fancy 4x4 vehicles, perhaps without any ABS or traction control systems...
@iLL3571
@iLL3571 Жыл бұрын
I needed this channel in my life, not this particular video though, this is pretty straightforward and probably only americans think they can go with summer tires in the winter
@goldentiger9966
@goldentiger9966 5 жыл бұрын
In Norway, where I live, you would be viewed as completely stupid even considering driving with summer tyres in the winter! If you are stopped by the police without proper equipment for the driving conditions AKA summer tyres in the winter, you will face anything from a couple hundred $ fine, to losing your drivers license. Also, if you get in an accident, you insurance company can refuse to pay you. And remember, a 2000 kg AWD will not stop any faster than a 1400 kg 2WD, quite the opposite in fact
@JAnx01
@JAnx01 5 жыл бұрын
4WD is better for engine braking when going down a slippery hill.
@dadoVRC
@dadoVRC 5 жыл бұрын
@@JAnx01 if you don't have grip, you can even drive a 6x6 wheel drive. However, weight matter more than AWD, since any car have a brake for every wheel. You can feel the difference only if your car isn't equipped with ABS. I know what I say, since I'm used to drive a 4x4 without ABS on snowy steep road. Look at what I meant as "steep", watching at my video on the Scanuppia, the steepest street of all europe...in the video it was summer, but in winter I drive on that with a thick layer of solid ice, with four snow chains, some years ago. All the descent done in 1st LOW gear, without touching the brakes, because without ABS wheels stops spinning where the chains don't touch the ice. 😉
@LordArioh
@LordArioh 5 жыл бұрын
even with AWD all winter tyres I was getting speed at the downhill slope before Eidfjord, I hit the breaks and slid all the way to the other side of the road and only snow hump stopped me. driving 30-40km/h.
@ricardo3760
@ricardo3760 5 жыл бұрын
Bare å kjøre på me BF Goodrich mud terrain d på vintern, ska låve deg du kommer kje te å ha d kjedli, låv er d au
@0tispunkm3y3r
@0tispunkm3y3r 5 жыл бұрын
In UK few people buy winter tyres. Not a requirement by law here like in other European countries. But people then think that regardless, having 4x4 means your sorted for cold conditions. And you're not.
@wilhelmtaylor9863
@wilhelmtaylor9863 4 жыл бұрын
Here in Colorado 80% of the cars that end up in the ditch when it snows are SUVs. They forget that we ALL have four wheel brakes. My wife and I each have 4 wheel drive cars. We change to ice/snow tires at end of October and revert to high end all season radials in April. Unfortunately we still sometimes get snow in May so then we have to wing it. It costs nothing extra to do this and it certainly increases safety.
@Equinox121
@Equinox121 4 жыл бұрын
Wilhelm Taylor live in Colorado my self. My all seasons did fine In the blizzard we just had and they're at about 75% life. It depends on the driver
@wilhelmtaylor9863
@wilhelmtaylor9863 4 жыл бұрын
@@Equinox121 - Totally at odds with my experience. The sedan was sliding all over even with gentle inputs from steering wheel and gas pedal. When we put - X-ice on that car it improved substantially.
@All4Grogg
@All4Grogg 4 жыл бұрын
@@Equinox121 Conditions vary massively. I never have a problem getting to work mid-afternoon, but take away my snow tires and there is often no way I'm able to get home just after midnight after the plows have stopped. Snow itself even changes depending on the conditions, mid 20's wet snow and sub zero snow has surprisingly different characteristics then there is slushy half melted snow on packed snow...Driving skill isn't going to stop you when the driver in front of you has double the traction and has to make an emergency stop or the sleep deprived driveway plowing guy backs out in front of you without looking. A good set of winter tires will last a solid 5 seasons of superior traction, a cheap set often won't last as long (tread depth). If you've never experienced the difference you really don't know what you are missing.
@Equinox121
@Equinox121 4 жыл бұрын
All4Grogg been driving in snow my whole life, colorado born and raised. I know the difference between the types of snow and the driving that occurs between them all. And yeah I do know the difference between a set of snow tires and all seasons. I drive a midsize SUV with a set of knobby all seasons and I've never had a single issue. Whether it be driving on unplowed roads in the middle of the night or slush from everyone else driving the roads.
@sazger
@sazger 4 жыл бұрын
I just purchased a fwd Highlander here in Denver and am wondering if I will be fine once winter tires are on the car. Right now I have 19" all season and cant climb a snow packed hill by my house. Will I be able to with the winter tires? Please let me know
@juliennapoli
@juliennapoli Жыл бұрын
This test is hilarious ! But very interesting indeed.
@DontPanicDear
@DontPanicDear 5 жыл бұрын
That looked like a lot of fun! Some people still insist they just “Drive to the conditions” in snow and can go everywhere in their summer shod 2wd cars . ....as they are super skilled and smug, they never need winter tyres, as they are a waste of money 😆 They also insist on calling them “Snow tyres” I’ve driven these combinations / conditions and experienced these amazing +/- results. It’s quite staggering to behold, but not that surprising really. Re types of car / driven wheels..... In my experience on snow, Rwd 135i with winters is safer than a 4x4 Macan on winters. Yes, the Macan nails the emergency start, but mass prevents it changing direction, or stopping quite as well. I think a smaller than average 4x4 hatch, with good ground clearance and winter tyres, is pretty much the answer. Right up until a massive 4x4 on summer tyres slides on snow and squishes you!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 жыл бұрын
The best car I've ever driven on winters was an original ford KA on 165/65 R13 winter tyres. No weight and narrow tyres made it hilarious
@Apex180
@Apex180 5 жыл бұрын
Punto 4x4 on winters, that would be intresting :D
@desertpair2
@desertpair2 5 жыл бұрын
Fun video. Thanks for posting. It would have been interesting to see what a RWD car would have done on winter tires (I'm guessing failure worse than the AWD on the snow track).
@bilokenneth
@bilokenneth 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video~~ I was thinking about to get a new set of tire, I was planning to get a summer tire for best driving experience in most of the case and plan to just "drive slowly" when there is snow. However, it seems it is still dangerous with summer tire when there is snow.
@carlsojos
@carlsojos 2 жыл бұрын
If you're expecting temperatures below about 10 degrees C (50 F) even without snow, do not run true summer tires- if you buy the tires uninstalled you'll probably even get documents stating this. At around that temperature it's actually cold enough the tires won't be flexible enough before they heat up and can potentially get damaged if you drive on them. Even if it hasn't snowed yet, non-studded winter tires will be better in the cold due to the softer rubber compound, and the treads will be there if the weather changes while you're out and about.
@manbearpig2164
@manbearpig2164 3 жыл бұрын
Incredible, I just moved to Idaho last week and was wondering if I should get some winter tires, guess this settled it
@jons3809
@jons3809 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, so many wrongly think AWD is the answer to winter driving. I know you are going to repeat this but with All Season tyres. I’d love to see how M+S like Pirelli Scorpion All Season compares with 3MPSF All Season like my Vredestein Quatrac.
@TorontoVeganTravellers
@TorontoVeganTravellers 5 жыл бұрын
Why bother testing summer tires in winter? Should have done All Season Tires in the beginning, it's obvious you can't drive in winter using summer tires..
@XA351GT
@XA351GT 5 жыл бұрын
All seasons are not much better. Believe me , I was stuck behind them all in the last storm we had here. I had zero problems with traction with snow tires and FWD . There were plenty of AWD SUVs and CUVS just sitting and spinning in front of me.
@TorontoVeganTravellers
@TorontoVeganTravellers 5 жыл бұрын
@@XA351GT I know what you mean, AWD is bullshit, you can't compare with the traction you get with winter tires, that's why I have winter tires with OEM rims on all my x5's. I've never got stuck in winter, and the handling is beautiful.
@XA351GT
@XA351GT 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty easy to tell when they are sitting still not moving anywhere.
@QnA22
@QnA22 5 жыл бұрын
Because there are plenty of countries with essentially 2 seasons only. Drivers pick true summer tires as summer last longest and then hope for the best in winter which will inevitably come. Winter tyres are an expense many don't want to bear. They go with something 2nd or 3rd best.
@Dr.TJ_Eckleburg
@Dr.TJ_Eckleburg 5 жыл бұрын
All-season tires are most popular in the US, and this isn't really a US-centric channel. I agree that I would have liked to see how all-season tires stack up to winters -- obviously not as good, but some will definitely be better than others (Nokian EnTyre for example, possibly Michelin Premier). Testing summer tires in snow is kind of a waste other than to illustrate just how useless they really are, in case there are any Europeans who think they can get through the winter on them. But if all-seasons were used there could have been some real information here.
@artetl
@artetl Жыл бұрын
Thank you captain obviously!🎉
@devscally
@devscally 4 жыл бұрын
This is like when I play Gran Turismo but dont want to race.
@travsformation1
@travsformation1 4 жыл бұрын
"OBSTICAL avoidance" ROFL 😂😂😂
@Nikita_Turbo
@Nikita_Turbo 4 жыл бұрын
took way too much scrolling to find this comment!
@ehsnils
@ehsnils 5 жыл бұрын
4WD with studded winter tyres is my choice.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 жыл бұрын
Not allowed in the UK but they're great when they are allowed
@mrguest3749
@mrguest3749 5 жыл бұрын
Studded tyres are not allowed in the UK?!
@FreddyJayBoy
@FreddyJayBoy 5 жыл бұрын
Same here. I live in rural Norway, it's the only thing that works sometimes.
@nanaconventa1337
@nanaconventa1337 2 жыл бұрын
Thats something what i needed :)
@recognize-important-stuff
@recognize-important-stuff 2 жыл бұрын
super good test !!!!
@Sijray21
@Sijray21 5 жыл бұрын
4wd on all seasons vs 2wd on winter would've been better...
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 жыл бұрын
See the latest pinned comment :)
@Sijray21
@Sijray21 5 жыл бұрын
@@tyrereviews thanks!
@_baller
@_baller 5 жыл бұрын
Yep
@ryanmansfield7262
@ryanmansfield7262 5 жыл бұрын
Agree
@wvrnstng
@wvrnstng 5 жыл бұрын
Studded tires vs friction tires is an easy fuel for studs. Remember finally, there is no all season tires, it’s marketing. They don’t perform as well as studs and also wear extensively, due to their rubber density and tread pattern.
@WEFAHawkStreet
@WEFAHawkStreet 5 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the AWD All Season VS FWD Winter. I always tell my friends here that AWD doesn't mean shit. You may get going a little faster because you have more wheels pushing you, but it doesn't help with breaking, steering, anything else.
@vinceking7878
@vinceking7878 4 жыл бұрын
It is still helpful, and saves the need to change tires as much. I guess that all seasons on 4wd is the same as winter on fwd
@tsikavimandry3600
@tsikavimandry3600 Жыл бұрын
A very good test. Because there are many people who say - Why do I need winter tires, if I have four-wheel drive?
@Markicjusz
@Markicjusz Жыл бұрын
Yes. I can confirm using summer tyres on my Nissan X-Trail 4x4 on the snow - in deep snow I was able to go forward and backward but was not able to make a turn... So definitely winter tyres are needed also on 4x4 vehicle on the snow.
@aquinamedia4508
@aquinamedia4508 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, 4x4 is not gonna help braking performance ever, since you got 4x4 it's gonna weigh more and be worse when you need to slam on it.
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