5 Axis Machining a Turbine Blade on the DVF5000 | DN Solutions
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Күн бұрынCNC Machine Shop Genius. Barry takes us through the process of machining a jet engine turbine blade. Using Mastercam toolpaths and Kennametal tooling
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@jackflash6377 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe one of the best videos Titan has put out. I like the way Barry explains things and passes on his knowledge. Thank you !
@barrysetzer 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@electricconnections9371 3 жыл бұрын
Need to get my company into CNC Manufacturing. Titans of CNC is definitely a motivator
@wookieiam1 3 жыл бұрын
Titanium just lying around??? Okay , and I have gold just lying around. LOL, This is amazing work..
@darikmatters8866 3 жыл бұрын
send it to their shop and they will convert it to chips..
@TritonTv69420 3 жыл бұрын
Most shops have a ton of metal lying around
@bobshams7231 3 жыл бұрын
And I thought working with 4 axis in the 80's and 90's was cool 🤪😂. I love you guys and the AMAZING work and teaching you provide for everyone. Makes me want to get back into the profession! Thanks Barry!
@barrysetzer 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! Why would you ever LEAVE machining to begin with!?!? We need people like you, that love the trade and have a positive attitude!!!!
@_aa_7 3 жыл бұрын
Barry is awesome! More videos with him please!
@barrysetzer 3 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks bro!
@MrNerfornothing 3 жыл бұрын
Quite impressive how you managed to avoid chatter with that tall set up.
@barrysetzer 3 жыл бұрын
The power of the dovetail!
@MrNerfornothing 3 жыл бұрын
@@barrysetzer dove tail does not really stop chatter as the material above can still flex and move.
@barrysetzer 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrNerfornothing but we still hit a surface finish beyond 18 micro inches. So?
@MrNerfornothing 3 жыл бұрын
@@barrysetzer the dovetail would do much to stop chatter compared to using grippy jaws or have loads of material in a vice. I mean thag thag set up is tall and taking big cuts with hard material can give chatter really easily. I'm saying that it's impressive that they've avoided chatter as it's tall set up, they're taking big cuts and it's a hard material, which is all prone to chatter
@barrysetzer 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrNerfornothing I see what you're saying. It was a tall set up, 8" of material, 1.25" thick. The blade itself is 5.5" tall, but even so, it was surprisingly rigid.
@richhuntsd12 Жыл бұрын
That was pretty cool. I liked the tilt and lead angle tips. 😊
@houstonsigmund2550 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome Job!!
@Patchworkdaddy007 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video!👍👍👍
@tonygombas491 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant 👍👍👍
@davegill8634 3 жыл бұрын
Great Content Barry!
@barrysetzer 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@davegill8634 3 жыл бұрын
@@barrysetzer Top man 👍
@cleberzoti9953 3 жыл бұрын
Top parabéns
@partscience 3 жыл бұрын
This is what I'm willing to watch on your channel blade of jet!! Amazing!! I've many other projects that you may build as your product with the aid of few other processes like sheet metal, painting etc
@Wirybird88 3 жыл бұрын
Do you use inverse time? Or do you use TCP? (G43.4 on Fanuc)
@axisfiveraxisfiver5844 3 жыл бұрын
*chef's kiss
@scottm5651 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video Barry, my company have recently purchased a DVF6500 and are looking at jobs to machine on it, we are an R&D facility and was wondering if you had this as a downloadable project on the website?
@Yamototamto Жыл бұрын
WOah Barry so calm in this video... Like it is not Barry!? Strange..
@frbyngr9602 3 жыл бұрын
I'm from Indonesia🇮🇩, please add Indonesian subtitles for every video
@codprawn 3 жыл бұрын
What kind of turbine blade is that? How did they make the incredible turbine blades used on Concorde back in the 60s wirh no CNC?
@BPond7 2 жыл бұрын
I would LOVE to do work like this! Sadly, our shop is one 5th Axis short of having a 5th Axis. 😢
@michaellemoine4001 2 жыл бұрын
Did you guys post the programming video? Having a hard time finding it.
@teo60hz 2 жыл бұрын
The 90° chamfer mill be like "where the hek is my coolant?!?"
@Wreakmayhem Жыл бұрын
It looks like it has sections. Is it crystalline? ...or can somebody please clue me in to what that is? Much appreciated...
@shuvomukhopadhyay 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Barry, Would you recommend a similar strategy for machining turbine blades on dedicated blade Mills like Hamuel/Starrag or Leichti
@barrysetzer 3 жыл бұрын
If you have a dedicated blade mill, you probably have 2 opposing chucks, so the strategy would be completely different (and much cooler). However, I would still use a dovetail on both ends of the stock. Then since you are holding both ends of the workpiece, you can be much more aggressive in the roughing, and make better use of larger inserted tools.
@darikmatters8866 3 жыл бұрын
Great job Barry.. one tongue mistake; Center off the ball spins at zero SFM not zero RPM
@barrysetzer 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha oops, you know what I meant ;)
@darikmatters8866 3 жыл бұрын
@@barrysetzer Excellent presentation. Would love to see the next operation, blade has to fit into a hub and want to see how you fixture it.
@LukeA_55 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh that makes sense now
@ezraelsensiaron4860 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff!, just a quick question. Is it possible to program the finishing using a barrel tool instead of a ballnose so you can increase your stopovers and save more time on finishing?, thanks Barry 😊 🙏
@barrysetzer 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! I actually have a barrel mill on my desk that I considered using for this part, but decided to save it for something cooler!
@ezraelsensiaron4860 3 жыл бұрын
@@barrysetzer thank you very much Barry!, i think you're awesome!, can't wait to see more of your content. 😄😊
@BassSwirls 2 жыл бұрын
Where I worked in the uk an engineer worked with Garryson Carbide designing a 5axis cutter that was capable of turning the leading / trailing edges to within near customer requirements, also the platform to airfoil fillets and conical features . All the component needed was a barrel in a specified media and the airfoil and its ancillaries were all but finished! The nose design is patent and secret. Well it was. Incredible work
@lmdavid 3 жыл бұрын
Would it not be better to rough and finish this part at different height levels instead of finishing it in one go so it stays evenly rigid from top to bottom? Or is it thick enough to not be a concern? By the way, great content!
@barrysetzer 3 жыл бұрын
I have done larger blades that way, but this one is only 5" tall and is rigid enough to finish in 1 shot.
@TritonTv69420 3 жыл бұрын
How deep do you guys cut your dovetail boss? We have been cutting the boss .09 tall and running the dovetail cutter -.07 into the boss.
@barrysetzer 3 жыл бұрын
Great question!!! I cut the dovetail .080” deep axially, and i like to make sure that its at least .25” radially, so that i have a decent amount of material resting on the top surface of the jaw (in order to prevent any possible pivoting of the workpiece). Usually, the manufacturer of the vise will spec the axial depth of the dovetail, so different manufacturers may have different recommendations.
@barrysetzer 3 жыл бұрын
I also usually break the edge of the dovetail by .020”, to make sure that the sharp edge of the workpiece doesn’t “bottom out” in the radius of the jaw’s dovetail.
@tracywilkinson5989 5 ай бұрын
where is the link to the mastercam programming of this part?
@michaeltodic204 3 жыл бұрын
BARRY talking about how not to use the center of tool because no rotation at the center. ALSO BARRY using the center of the Chamfer tool. 😂👍
@barrysetzer 3 жыл бұрын
LOL, it looks that way in the video, but it's actually a few thou off center putting a .002" edge break on. ;)
@michaeltodic204 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just messing with you my friend 😉 great work. Keep it up 👍
@salamdrik 2 жыл бұрын
woa titanium
@nofunallowed3382 3 жыл бұрын
Those jaws also have teeth in them, right? Is there a reason to give the stock a dovetail instead of punching teeth with a pneumatic press? Dovetails work fantastic, but it's another milling operation that could be skipped
@barrysetzer 3 жыл бұрын
I have never heard of that personally but it sounds really cool! I will have to google that!
@TritonTv69420 3 жыл бұрын
Dovetails are industry standard for 5 axis milling now.
@nofunallowed3382 3 жыл бұрын
@@barrysetzer google Lang Makro Grip. That is the system that I use
@nofunallowed3382 3 жыл бұрын
@@TritonTv69420 dovetails makes sense because you don't have to purchase a workstation that punches of stamps those teeth, but are there other reason it's the go to for 5 axis?
@alex4nder1 3 жыл бұрын
Nice Video! In our Company, we dont use kennametal cutter. 😕
@barrysetzer 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! Sometimes you have to do the best that you can with what you have! I have also been at companies where our motto was “I have done so much, with so little, for so long, that NOW, I can do ANYTHING with nothing AT ALL.”
@alex4nder1 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Barry are you Born in Germany?
@barrysetzer 3 жыл бұрын
@@alex4nder1 No, my Great grandparents immigrated to the USA from Germany, and I was born in Chicago!!
@k53847 3 жыл бұрын
Why not start by forming the fir-tree, which you can then use to hold the workpiece while you form the complex blade geometry? Holding the finished blade to cut the fir-tree looks really painful.
@barrysetzer 3 жыл бұрын
Most of the time the fir tree is machined or ground first (but not always). In this case, we only wanted to discuss the milling of the blade, and as such it wasn't worth building fixturing.
@williamhuang5329 Жыл бұрын
Hanzhen harmonic drive gear , strain wave gear redcuer, robot joint , over 30 years experience
@kdtune33 3 жыл бұрын
What's the programming time for that?
@barrysetzer 3 жыл бұрын
5-30 minutes, depending on a few factors. This toolpath may look complicated, but Mastercam makes it really simple.
@MyHappyCats Жыл бұрын
Mastercam everything is possible
@jaywhittingham5344 3 жыл бұрын
Why would you use Mastercam over Catia
@barrysetzer 3 жыл бұрын
Price, ease of use, support, ability to find and hire users, to name a few!
@JayRussellDuramax 3 жыл бұрын
Why does the roughing leave facets like that?
@barrysetzer 3 жыл бұрын
I gave the roughing toolpath a tolerance of .015", to keep the size of the program smaller.
@JayRussellDuramax 3 жыл бұрын
@@barrysetzer Ok. Cool! Thank you for the reply, Barry! Keep up the great work!
@beamonator 3 жыл бұрын
In real life it would be done in Catia/NX & Vericut/NCsimul, based on Tier 1 requirements and would use tooling from Seco-Sandvik-SGS and not what is in the video.
@barrysetzer 3 жыл бұрын
In real life, I just made a flawless turbine blade in Mastercam using Kennametal, and the video proves it. Sooooo…..yeah.
@BPond7 2 жыл бұрын
It looked pretty real life to me!
@HassanAli-of9nv 3 жыл бұрын
I have also DVF 5000
@barrysetzer 3 жыл бұрын
Great machine!
@liamnelson49 3 жыл бұрын
I'd be so stressed machining this
@electricconnections9371 3 жыл бұрын
You're not machining it the machine is machining it you program it
@Darctan1 3 жыл бұрын
@@electricconnections9371 somebody trying to be smart here xD
@electricconnections9371 3 жыл бұрын
I was trying to b funny, but maybe next time
@siberia1155 6 ай бұрын
アップカットで刃先痛めてない？？
@igi2539 5 ай бұрын
Thats one way to fuck up your cnc, where i work we make turbine blades on a 5 axis cnc that has A and C rotary, double grip, less vibrations and faster milling
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