Let's look at 5 common mistakes that I often see made by newer animators! Follow me on Twitter: / lastanimator Check out my Instagram: / c.dong98 Support me on Patreon: / dongchang
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@TheGrassyou6 ай бұрын
5 COMMON MISTAKES ANIMATORS MAKE: 1.BECOMING AN ANIMATOR
@maroz50736 ай бұрын
2.WORKING FOR MAPPA
@yergirl33685 ай бұрын
3.animating anime thinking they can make a waifu anime by themselves, kill me-
@CadaGCreations.5 ай бұрын
Facts
@ChiupelAnimations5 ай бұрын
4.having a lil too much ego
@tnl-warrior32185 ай бұрын
@@maroz5073overused joke
@lulum16566 ай бұрын
I do animation as a hobby, I created anime characters when i was a kid and use your tips in my work. Love yer advice
@Maybehaha7556 ай бұрын
"As a hobby" people like you sick me
@nijuhinaa6 ай бұрын
@@Maybehaha755it's not that serious bro
@Vleaso6 ай бұрын
@@Maybehaha755 care to say why?
@Kaiyumaru6 ай бұрын
@@Maybehaha755what?
@lmnburger10176 ай бұрын
@@Maybehaha755 ok...?
@thexenoist34936 ай бұрын
The too many drawings complaint only applies to industry animators as independent animators might be working solo so a single person may draw both keys and inbetweens so the distinction between them is less vital for their pipeline.
@ComfyCherry6 ай бұрын
this whole channel is about professional advice, and his experience is in anime with japanese animation companies
@Igorooooleynikov6 ай бұрын
Animating on 4's 5's and 6's is also fine IMO if it is specific style. On real show - probably bad idea. Also doing strange timing make timesheet unreadable.
@soullessbite6 ай бұрын
Ain’t no rules in art
@Chips_cooked6 ай бұрын
@@soullessbiteI think its meant to just do your assigned role and not try to cover for other things that other people are meant to do
@jmhorange4 ай бұрын
Even when working by myself, I start with only the keys that are necessary and then go back with inbetweens. You can label everything as keys but it shows you don't have confidence in your timing and spacing to plot out your inbetweens later and it's going to take longer if you are making all the drawings in one go. It also makes tie down and cleanup slower.
@shyimp4 ай бұрын
that box perspective tip is amazing generally, even for illustration and composition
@MochaxMatcha6 ай бұрын
I want give a heartfelt message and thank you. One of your videos explained making lines aliasing, making the g-pen around 2.5, and using smoothing once your done. (I think on the tanya video) AND THAT HAS MADE JUST A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN MY ART!! I have always struggled with coloring and editing lines with my art that I had stopped doing so. But after trying it out, it's so much easier to paint, edit lineart, shadows. I can't believe I never knew. I really appreciate you man, it's gotten me drawing and coloring again after a 5 year slomp. If you ever make a video on how to make some compositing effects on clipstudiopaint like on after effects, I would be so grateful.🙏🏽 I don't have after effects and wanted to know if I have to use it. Thank you for reading! ✨️
@philip46586 ай бұрын
The last advice sounds strange: if there is absolutely no movement between frames then it's better to copy lines than retrace them. Retracing motionless lines will produce flickering between frames even if you are very accurate retracer..
@PaperWolfe6 ай бұрын
At 7:30 he mentions that if it’s a held drawing then copying and pasting is fine
@inisipisTV6 ай бұрын
He's pointing to those that the character must be moving, ex. The char. is talking, it's very noticeable if just shift the drawings and just change the mouth flaps. When it's IB it'll look like a cut out. The hair must be moving, the shape of the cheeks when talking and the eyes must shift as if still looking at someone. Some lazy, or OG animators that's in hurry would do this to save time. Animators are paid by the footage (or by fraction of second of each scene) not by regular day wage. If you can animate 50 scenes in one week, you earn much more as opposed to just animating 10 scenes per week. That's why some animators love to get easily to animate scenes (like only the mouth moving or a hair blowing cycle) since they earn the same money as opposed to a scene where the character is doing lots of action (* though special complicated animation like intense fight scene or lots of moving crowd would getter higher rates than the regular scenes, in which the studio would hire a veteran specialist animator to focus on that scene)
@cookee30006 ай бұрын
i love how you explain and don't criticize mistakes, its way easier to learn this way, thank you!
@AtelierOfWeebs6 ай бұрын
Thank you for your work, animators touch our hearts everytime with the stories they help bringing to life, you taking the time to teach advices and techniques for other animators is very needed in this unfair industry (yeah we all know what the studios do to their employees)
@watchpointoh33546 ай бұрын
Once again, I'm extremely grateful for your channel. I plan to get started with learning 2D animation very soon (once I'm done the 3D short I'm currently trying to finish by Christmas). Keep up the good work and tips, because they've been very helpful and motivating so far!
@princessthyemis6 ай бұрын
Good luck finishing it!!🎉
@littleink12796 ай бұрын
Me too
@TheArtKingdomYT6 ай бұрын
Hey Dong, I appreciate all of these videos, I've learned a lot even though I am still a hobbyist. Keep them coming as it is a much-needed thing for the industry.
@AlexThePea6 ай бұрын
These videos are great man! I've been a freelance animator for just over a year now and they're so helpful so thank you:)
@damotoneko15005 ай бұрын
I can tell you really understand animation with these tips and tricks and insights. Like working on 3s and 2s or the timing chart guiding how many frames there are until the next keyframe. I also liked your tip on how to align a character to a background by using a box character. I very much liked this video. You earned my thumbs up :D
@johndinner44184 ай бұрын
Do you know if he means animating on 4s is a slide show when talking about 24 fps? He doesn't really say at what rate but I assume 24 since that's one of the standards. Would that then be the equivalent of having a frame repeat for 10 frames if you have your animation at 60fps?
@taliyahofthenasaaj75703 ай бұрын
@@johndinner4418 Frame-by-frame animation isn't something that's done at 60fps. The reason is simple: there's far too many frames at 60 fps. You simply can't draw them all out, so it's frankly not even worth going there. 24 is also incredibly versatile because it divides evenly into a lot of factors. Frame-by-frame animation is always animated at 24fps. 3D animation or some other kind of vector/interpolated animation (like flash animations) can be rendered at 24, 30, 60, etc., but to go above 24 for frame-by-frame is just too much work for not enough gain.
@johndinner44183 ай бұрын
@@taliyahofthenasaaj7570 Thanks but that didn't answer my question. I was asking what is the base of saying animating on fours. If I'm correct by assuming he means that out of base 24, that means it'd be a different frame every 4 frames in a 24 fps animation which would then mean that if you ran that at 60 fps, it'd be the equivalent of 10 frames, right? That was my question
@vananana10863 ай бұрын
@@johndinner4418well yes, in the end in both cases there will only be 6 drawings per second, but animation works on 24 so I don't know when you would use 60fps
@johndinner44183 ай бұрын
@@vananana1086 animated video games
@Masterpj5554 ай бұрын
love your drawing work ! :). The drawing on raw notations is super cute.
@monkeydgoofy80746 ай бұрын
The most useful animation channel , It really helps me understand animation better
@tzyionhoward48396 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your animation videos. They really help me out a lot
@Cheeseguy7386 ай бұрын
This is great, I wish you went into more detail about the spacing and what all the annotations mean in a lot further details, like the cells and timesheets, but the spacing charts for sure I get confused aviut
@oleksiyraiu71906 ай бұрын
I really love the animation sketches, how they with minimum amount of detail manage to land a punch. Do you know any good classes/tutorials that teach one to draw specifically for animation sketches, aiming for precision, simplicity and clarity?
@stephanos61286 ай бұрын
if you mean the early early sketch stages before clean up, like the key frames are mainly just rough simple shapes before inbetweens n what not, that'd be strong strong poses/silhoutte, line of action n all that. timing spacing ease in out ect basically the same princples still apply to sketch animation (and a basic grasp on gesturing and anatomy i think) just wothout the inbetween and clean up stage
@vheart_png6 ай бұрын
I appreciate your videos so much! Thank you for the tips it was super insight full.
@Astryca6 ай бұрын
Very facinating to watch! Thank you so much for the insight! I just learnt to animate in Clip studio paint, and the latest thing i worked on i copied the frames a lot, ill stop doing that now haha. The reason i did it is mostply because i dont entirely know how to animate with more folders properly. I just recently did that by keeping the mouth in another animation folder. Not sure how to properly do it to be honest, if you have any resource for people to learn this better, id love to see it!
@mochiemy4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the tips. It was really helpful and I’m starting to do animation more😊
@AuraTrail5 ай бұрын
Your channel is gonna be my best friend when I start to struggle animating
@akarticle85616 ай бұрын
thank you so much, i am stills trying to improve my animation but I know I can get there
@jcw-draws5 ай бұрын
I learned so much from this video, thank you for sharing. I will definitely be subscribing!
@pipeliner89695 ай бұрын
And congatulations for more than 100k subscribers
@Simon-et4hu5 ай бұрын
Very interesting! Thanks for the information. Also I really love seeing the peg bar at the top :D Is it for alignment when switching software or maybe just nostalgia? The examples you show seem to be done digitally that's why I'm asking.
@logomuno5 ай бұрын
I always seen those lines in story boards but never knew what they were! Love the insight!
@busti45526 ай бұрын
Kudos for making Deca-Dence! I liked it very much!
@Galaxyeyez6 ай бұрын
I think a good idea for a video would be about common LO notations not covered in the satsuma or just a general LO notations vid. Can't tell u how many times I've run into a situation where I have to ask friends for certain notations u don't find in the satsuma.
@EdwardChan.9996 ай бұрын
As someone who as no experience in animation, the video is informative and easy to understand :)
@shinchan53554 ай бұрын
the thing about too many drawings is kinda subjective. for example when the director give you his or her go signal to do stylized animation, I would fill in all the IB my self in order to make sure that it will stay the same way I projected it when it goes to IB phase. most of the time my layout or the scene I animated became kinda off after IB phase. the overshoots, exagerations, and some aspect from my animation are kinda gone.
@Riof4216 ай бұрын
Please keep up the good work !!!
@mine-gu9ku6 күн бұрын
Ty 😊 this was so helpful
@KillerTacos546 ай бұрын
Thanks for this awesome video
@salww.6 ай бұрын
I love Mr Dong! He's like everyone's big brother when it comes to art!
@christiansoto63965 ай бұрын
very concise yet elaborate
@Manahina12 ай бұрын
As someone who never animated before, I can safely say that I've never made any of these mistakes. ok I probably done the first mistake a lot but you get the point.
@xn9tj6 ай бұрын
Theres a lot of guys where copy pasting is their staple but it requires a lot of skill and understanding to sell the 3d form of it, whereas beginners use it as a shortcut to get out of redrawing things, and that's where the problem lies same thing applies to using timings on 4's and 5's, it isn't a strict rule to avoid it just takes waaay more competence at an advanced level to pull off well
@mooncaketin6 ай бұрын
Thanks for your informative videos! Sorry if this has already been covered before, but a recent album cover on iTunes reminded me of something I never understood. I've seen pencil drawings of key frames made with different colored pencils. Is there an assigned meaning to the specific colors used? Thanks for any insight!
@valkorey6 ай бұрын
Hey your videos helped me out so much! I can't get enough of them ❤ I can't find any information about professional anime color charts. How they are made and how they differ from the west... When I got in contact with an anime studio they asked about color charts and planned over a week to make them. If I had made them beforehand it would have probably saved time... Are they only for characters? Or also backgrounds and shading? I also saw them in the studio ghibli log (in their artbook) but no details or pictures from it. If anyone knows something about this I would love to hear :')
@bigman78565 ай бұрын
Getting into the world of animation is like staring into the eyes of a behemoth. Especially when I'm still sort of in the process of studying art in general. I think it's good that I am learning fast though!
@andnanm6 ай бұрын
Please make more videos lessons on after production process
@BerryStudio116 ай бұрын
Yes i've been through that when i first start animating, copy and paste drawing make the motion looks awkward and not good.
@skocreation66746 ай бұрын
congratulation for 100k ☺
@AGotT6 ай бұрын
6:36 even when there is no movment in character try redrawing the last frame and repeating them so the still standing character will feel more alive
@plasturion5 ай бұрын
I learned that low quality animation is better than high quality. Thank you!
@Fairiz_lll6 ай бұрын
Could you cover unique lineart next? Like The cursed energy in jujutsu kaisen or just demon slayer in general.
@Igorooooleynikov6 ай бұрын
About copy and paste part of a drawing. I see experienced artists use it very successfully, bahijd is good example. It seems argument there is to not just take and skew and move whole cell. I agree with it, simple movement has artificial feel to it. Also, Im working on a show and on genga stage artist does exactly that - duplicates a head and moves it a bit, even without gosei instruction. And it happens with close-ups of detailed characters and there is simply no time to correct second drawing. Well maybe I had to find time to correct it. Show is traced digitally so maybe it is why they are just basically doing a head slide...
@tzyionhoward48396 ай бұрын
As a new 16 year old who dreams of creating his own anime one day, your videos really help me out a lot. One thing I wanted to ask was if you could consider doing a basic anime animation course on KZfaq. That would really be super helpful!
@xSakuraStrawberryx5 ай бұрын
You can create an anime style cartoon, but you can't necessarily make a real anime if you're not Japanese! Because anime is Japanese animation.
@Raiya.Merlyan5 ай бұрын
@@xSakuraStrawberryxanime is literally “cartoon” if translated.. but people decided to split the genre because the animation style differs a lot then western csrttons
@tzyionhoward48395 ай бұрын
Wait so you’re saying that I can’t actually create an anime 🙁@@xSakuraStrawberryx
@tzyionhoward48395 ай бұрын
That doesn’t really make sense. If a Japanese person created an American style animation, then according to your explanation, it would be considered anime even though it’s not even anime style.
@tzyionhoward48395 ай бұрын
Exactly, thank you @@Raiya.Merlyan
@uknowmejones93886 ай бұрын
Would love to get into animation but it’s rlly hard to find the drive for it after spending 2-3 years of doing art. Kinda jus don’t want to go through that struggle again
@rattersworld10164 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!
@nichescenes3 ай бұрын
My biggest issue is consistancy. I get the first drawing super detailed than realize ugh i gotta do this 100 more times. And i add too many frames. Maybe its something you learn. Animation i dont try at looks super fluid, ones i do look choppy. So weird.
@tresbienjevois70136 ай бұрын
Thank you
@AccelSternritter6 ай бұрын
Why you sound constipated? Nice video by the way, i like how you show everything clearly with specific examples, like the running animation.
@MiladyGchan4 ай бұрын
Whats the name of the software used in this video?
@Mark-jy5wb5 ай бұрын
As a 3D animator with experience of doing 3D animation for almost 5 years now, I wanna try do 2D animation and having the skills of knowing how to pose a model I have some confidence in progressing with 2D style and I really hope I get good at it.
@GarciaFranc-yx5pj6 ай бұрын
These are truly the mistakes I use to commit as an animator. Calling my attention! But, until now, I can't get how to note a dialogue in timesheet. The great difficulty I have!
@LeafMaltieze6 ай бұрын
watching this channel makes me feel like I could be an animator...
@lauraribeiroferreira5666 ай бұрын
I am trying study animation with flipa clip and I copy and lap so much frames just animation is frame to frame... So, I agree that the character's moviment is so bad, no smooth. Well... Your videos will be so important for my study, thank so much 😊❤
@axhvjvlnkmogpnjnkcvbccus6 ай бұрын
Question: How can you color the words in the perfect shape? I hope you make a video on how to color the animation
@DaRUde1176 ай бұрын
How was your time working on bullbuster?
@prettyspectrum63716 ай бұрын
I would love a video abt how to communicate and write time charts correctly. I know the western way but can't figure out how to do it as the Japanese way
@sketchy-chan5 ай бұрын
I've wanted to do animation ever since i knew what it was, but still can't animate hope this video helps
@IKKANmangaka3 ай бұрын
Which 2D soft do you use ? What are the most used softs in japanese studios?
@zzzipp05 ай бұрын
awesome video like always!!! i was wondering, what anime are the clips at the beginning from? it looks so familiar but i can't put my finger on it lol
@zzzipp05 ай бұрын
nvm i'm dumb lol it's just deca dence (i saw it said that but i thought that was like the producing company's name)
@Random-mh7gx5 ай бұрын
After watching this now I'm confused on how to decide the key drawings and maybe I'm just making some in-betweens 😢
@KenTheEagle20016 ай бұрын
When your drawing , what is the setting you use for your pen tool ? I’m working in toon boom harmony and the pencil tool has different modes but I haven’t found a line point and that’s similar to most key frame artists .
@Ashura86AE6 ай бұрын
thanks for the advice
@yoshiYoish4 ай бұрын
Although copy and pasting is not allowed, another way you can cheat in LO is by using skewing/transform/liquid tool. You can't do it in genga, douga though. Amazing tutorial, it made me watch everything haha!
@rejas33835 ай бұрын
6:33 oh shit, its hit me a lott
@nazaninzahrash51765 ай бұрын
Which app you use for animation?🥺
@artisticbirdies2 ай бұрын
there using clip studio paint :)
@avarice_.Ай бұрын
@@artisticbirdies they’re
@jzaxle9038Ай бұрын
hello!Thank you for your explanation!It' easy to understand!Also can i request you to make video about how to read in between chart time in Japanese animation style?because i've been doing research a lot of it and i barely to find a good explanation and it makes me so confused… i hope you can make it because i actually wanted to be animator in the future. Also does Japanese inbetween time chart is different with Western style?Curious Thank you!
@GalaxyGoldbox5 ай бұрын
Never going to use this, but good know
@pipeliner89695 ай бұрын
Please make more Open Toonz tutorials!
@leetlebit4035 ай бұрын
Is there a specific pen in supposed to use for animating maybe?
@lotosla31995 ай бұрын
what is the best school for animation in tokyo?
@cabk.45385 ай бұрын
interesting techniques I've never encountered.
@godslayerreginald2 ай бұрын
Can I animate by myself.
@kollykwuru27385 ай бұрын
I am a canadian hoping to do animations like these in the future, how did you find a job in japan? it would help me a ton to know so i can try to find a similar job to this
@sabbyxxАй бұрын
i spontaneously started animating last week with _no_ knowledge or experience at all, it just seemed like a fun thing to do. im guilty for doing the copy paste thing. i did notice my animation felt weird but i refused to believe that id have to redraw the same thing dozens of times😭 now i know how much time animation really takes. still LOVE it and i could never stop now but damn
@1989v9Ай бұрын
depending on your style and when in the animation youre copy & pasting, its absolutely fine to do so. Epicness at Peak's video on how to draw smoothly explains it better than i could, id recommend checking that one out!
@sabbyxxАй бұрын
@@1989v9 ill check that out, ty :)
@FigureUnboxing5 ай бұрын
Not sure how you manage to do that. I mean, it takes me like one whole week to edit my unboxing video (after cutting office work hour) and it leaves me tired. Animators are like super humans!
@hubguy5 ай бұрын
I feel called out by #3 lol. I draw way too much before I get into the in betweens
@sleepycritical69506 ай бұрын
I have a question. What’s the difference between a key and an in between, since you say that there’s a flicker if all the frames are key. Since I hobby animate solo, my workflow is usually to make the whole thing in one go either on two’s or three’s as the scene requires. Also I don’t really differentiate between a key or an in between because I can’t seem to draw something right between two frames nicely if it wasn’t planned from the beginning. I guess I just have an art skill problem on top of an in between problem, but any advice?
@HappyGoof45 ай бұрын
Okay, so imagine a car driving from the left to right on a page. There are three key frames. 1)The car being drawn driving from the left side, 2) The car in the middle of the page, and lastly, 3) The car driving on right side of the screen. There are also frames that act as the movement of the car going in-between each key frame. The frames in between the key frames are the in-betweens. Does that help you?
@sleepycritical69505 ай бұрын
@@HappyGoof4 that’s not what I meant when I said I don’t differentiate between a key and an in between. What I meant was that since I’m doing it all solo, it makes no difference for me to only draw the keys and then in between, and to draw both key and in between together. I usually just draw the key and in between together (meaning that for me all the frames might as well be key) because I have a hard time drawing the characters consistently unless I plan it out from sketch to finish.
@HappyGoof45 ай бұрын
Oh. Sorry!@@sleepycritical6950
@endusk645 ай бұрын
Do what is best for your workflow. I alternate between these two methods. Sometimes it's all keyframes and no inbetweens, othertimes it's keyframes first then inbetweens. It depends on how difficult a scene is for me, or if adding inbetweens feels unnecessary. Right now I'm trying to adopt Studio Trigger's "less is more" approach. This does require perfect keyframes though.
@natus_podil6 ай бұрын
WE NEEED MORE TUTORIALL TwT
@Blinde2.0_666Ай бұрын
whats a good software to use
@Adam162574 ай бұрын
What software are you using
@amadousagna70532 ай бұрын
What software you use for animation?
@jilliancrawford75772 ай бұрын
I think I have a problem with drawing too much outside the frame that would get cut off. Drawing a little more than what fits in-frame helps with quality by giving extra context, especially for animation, but I've noticed that I feel compelled to focus too much on that to where it slows me down and could even become a waste of time and effort. Is there a way to be more relaxed and casual about such excess context information, to have a healthier priority with it?
@trunks10k3 ай бұрын
question Dong do you perfer animating with OT or CP?
@shimal-lx6fs3 ай бұрын
what app do u use for animation?
@justsaraki65935 ай бұрын
Hello. Im a first year european animator student who aim to work as a professional animator later. Thank you for this video but it seems its adressed to those who work in the industry.... Do you have tips and video for those who just started animation? Great wish
@RedGallardo5 ай бұрын
Badass animation
@rum_48696 ай бұрын
on too many drawings: how do key drawings and in between frame drawings differ? do you have to draw them differently?
@RailRide5 ай бұрын
It's a division of labor thing. If a key animator is drawing too many frames, he's slowing himself down making extra drawings that the inbetweeners are supposed to handle. The key animator does the major poses, and the inbetweeners (a larger group of animators) fill in the motion that takes place between them. If you're working by yourself on a hobbyist project, this is less relevant as you have no assistants helping you. Some solo animators still do this though. Example, Ed Tadeo's animation of Wolverine: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ramVfNWo0Ny0Zmw.htmlsi=d8dz-gw46rNFD2LI You'll notice that he first does a very rough jumpy animation. Those are the key frames. When he goes back and starts adding frames with blue/pink shaded drawings (onion-skin function), that is inbetweening, at this point he's drawing the frames that fall between the "major" blue and pink figures that define the major poses in the sequence.
@nikhilgirish73146 ай бұрын
ok, so from ur list, only the "too many drawings" is what i am suffering with. Thanks for the advice~
@philip46586 ай бұрын
This advice is suitable only for Japanese animation. Because they send their keyframes to China for outsource inbetweeining. If you do not have this option then you should draw both keyframes and IBs by yourself. In threes by the way. ; ))
@Raiya.Merlyan5 ай бұрын
@@philip4658even tho I’ve been learning animation for a year now I have never made inbetweens
@yezzzsir6 ай бұрын
Wrist slaps from DC lol!
@Basagazel2 ай бұрын
When I am alone drawing animation, I need to draw everything 😂 so deleting for in between is not so good
@mohamadXezri14 күн бұрын
07:36 can you tell us more about this technics in animate pls🙏❤
@AidilAfham6 ай бұрын
Thanks for this! I do however, am curious why copy and pasting is not a good practice since your tips are targeted at professionals working in the industry. Wouldn’t it save time and money to do use what is efficient? I’m not a professional and I’m surprised at that tip, since I noticed alot of anime uses same animations for diff scenes.
@omardotzat22902 ай бұрын
what software does animator use animate anime?
@Matthimeo5 ай бұрын
I’m a cg animator, it’s interesting how the same mistakes in poor notation crosses mediums. A lot of newer cg artists may have a janky workflow that’s hard for people down the pipeline or people that pick up their revisions, so you often need to bake their animation out and delete swaths of work as you go to actually make it something you can work in.
@tdowg88215 ай бұрын
Got any tips for someone trying to get into cg animation ?
@kuronblue11 күн бұрын
6:39 would this be okay per say if I used it on a mechanical object, to convey a very rigid motion