5 Easy Tricks HOW to Remove Rounded Stripped Allen Hex Bolts FCA Screw

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5 Easy Tricks to Remove Rounded Stripped Allen Hex Socket Bolts
There are lots of variables when doing jobs that involve Hex fasteners that could be rounded
or hex fastener that are stripped, but I'll cover the techniques that I use regularly as they might prove useful for you as what works one day may not works
the next.
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There are quite a few different types of screws and bolts so in the beginning of the video about 5 Easy Tricks to Remove Rounded Stripped Allen Hex Socket Bolts as well as many other techniques
I will cover the main types you could encounter like Button Head Socket Screw, Flat Head Socket Cap Screw, Socket Head Cap Screw and Socket Set Screws as
these are the main types I regularly use and gathered many great techniques over the years to remove the stripped rounded hex Allen socket cap bolts.
I rarely find myself using Allen hex keys, but there are still times when they are convenient to use.
Allen hex bolts or Allen hex screws come in both SAE and Metric and can be difficult to identify so always ensure you are using the tightest fitting tool available.
Additionally, it is important to remove as much rust dirt and debris from the hex head by whatever means possible (Scraping, blowing air, penetration fluid)
before you insert the hex Allen tool.
Apply pressure and continue to apply pressure on the hex allen tools to the rounded off bolt. You may even find it necessary to use them on an impact tool.
Should you use them on an impact tool be absolutely certain you are in the reverse direction and know that you may only get one chance at removing it.
The 5 Easy Tricks and Tips and other techniques used in this video to remove a stripped hex Allen cap socket bolt:
1. Ingersoll Rand Tech Solutions Bit Socket Set - www.irhandtools.com/products/...
2. Mac Tools RBRT Technology - www.mactools.com/en-us/Socket...
3. Torx Socket Bit
4. Triple Square Socket Bit
5. Hex Socket Bit from a different size or type (SAE vs metric)
6. Cobra Knipex/Pliers/Channellock/ Vise Grips
7. Drill using a left-handed drill bit. You could always drill the head from the bolt
8. Cut a slit and use a screwdriver
9. Use a center punch to knock loose the threads and dislodge the fastener
10. For Thread Threadlocker and Loctite use a Heat source such as a Soldering Iron or Small torch.
Loctite is an acrylic-base adhesive, which means that the solvents useful for cementing acrylic parts together will have some effect
such as methylene chloride, or acetone. The problem with using solvents is that a very small amount of the solvent actually penetrates the Loctite and down inside the screw thread. Loctite Chisel #79040 (their stripper/removal product) is another recommended solvent to remove cured Loctite and it works well.
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@The3chordwonder 3 жыл бұрын

To make it more real, cover it in rust, make it cold outside, and give yourself 1 inches of space to work. Or do as I do. To remove the fastener...Take 5 of your tools and throw them away. Sit in the corner for 4 hours. Take a hammer and bust up the area around the fastener. Make sure your finger gets cut. Then, weld a nut on it, making sure to overheat something next to the bolt. Make sure you strip the treads on that welded nut, and then, go out and buy a cobalt drill bit (Way bigger than the fastener) and drill out everything, ruining the part. Then, order a new part. Easy peazy! :) Seriously though, I've used the torx bit hammered in the hole several times before. For me, the ez-outs either don't grab, or they shatter. But it's probably because I have cheap ones.

@petruse8893 2 жыл бұрын

My sentiment exactly, doing the suggested " unscrewing" in a tight space,on a rusty bolt rarely works as one wishes.It ends usually with the screw head broken evenly ,flush with a surface

@goldbunny1973 2 жыл бұрын

LOL!!!!

@MrRicoRelz 2 жыл бұрын

my entire mood in one comment lol

@michaelschwab9563 Жыл бұрын

😂🤣🤣

@Tylek101 Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@714playboys Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! My boyfriend and I were struggling with a stubborn stripped screw for HOURS. Went home, searched for help on KZfaq, came across your video, went back, tried one of your suggestions and BAM out in 1 minute! I am so grateful for your help sir!

@jazlynn011 Жыл бұрын

Yea. I'm still in the bind

@dsavage5773 2 жыл бұрын

So glad I watched this. Had a $45 dollar crimp tool with interchangeable jaws held in place by two button head socket head cap screws(learned that lingo from you). One of the screws was frozen in place and I stripped hex attempting removal. Tried tapping in a triple square driver per your recommendation and it too stripped. Went to yet a larger diameter triple square driver tapped into place and VOILA, with a distinct click, out came the sticky screw. Until I get a replacement screw, I'll just store the triple square driver with the crimping tool. Made my day.

@andybritton1376 2 жыл бұрын

Absolute hero! Worked on a bolt I’d been raging over for hours - thanks!

@Jolie12Fille 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I was desperate and thinking of buying a whole new bed because of one stripped hex screw but you save me the trouble!

@stooperman1 2 жыл бұрын

Tried your star hex into my hex bolt hammered in unscrewed worked perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No more drilling for me!!!! Great video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@wanderinggeri8477 6 күн бұрын

This video needs some kind of KZfaq Oscar!

@1100STrider Жыл бұрын

The Torx bit did the trick. It was a bolt/screw for a motorbike fork and it was inset deep. Thanks so much for the great ideas!

@tristanaiken3849 Жыл бұрын

Been trying to get a hex bolt loose for 3 days until I came across this. Just so happen to have a torx bit socket set on hand. Worked easy the first time. Thanks bro

@lordmayonnaise9547 3 жыл бұрын

this channel deserves 1M really good content, keep up the good work!

@ClientGraphics 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Lord, appreciate the kind words.

@thelatenightbar Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the help ! Had a couple of stripped Allen hex bolts that I couldn't get out. found something close that could fit, and hammered it in a bit... was able to get 'em right out !

@oreotookie Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I used the torx method and it worked like a charm. Great $4 spent.

@marekryszard Жыл бұрын

On a countersunk screw, the Torx bit method worked like a charm on my first atttempt. Thank you!

@danb5692 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing these tip. Very helpful!

@mar4elo999 Жыл бұрын

Flexing screw head and using flat head screwdriver worked best for me. Great video, thanks for advice

@instantlife 3 жыл бұрын

Some good choices. One thing to remember is esp with cars, you might have very little clearance so hammering or using an impact wrench might not even be possible.

@danieldoll4721 2 жыл бұрын

People who actually work on stuff and not just make veidos know this.

@martinhoude3518 2 жыл бұрын

It's not even just cars. MOST stripped screws, bolts and nuts are in tight places, because they are harder to properly reach in the first place. Yet, most examples have a cleanly accessible bolt... In my case, the hex screw is in a toddler three-wheel step, in a hole, surrounded by plastic. I'm not a guy with multiple bits ratchet bits of every kind either, so sacrificial bits are not my forte. I don't have a welding kit either. In fact, the sacrificial hex key (the low-quality kind coming with whatever purchase you make, like the freaking wheels of the very step in my case) being glued to the bolt seems the best option...

@lewbass 5 ай бұрын

Used a torx bit and the stripped hex nut came out easily. Thanks so much for the tips!

@ezrider1967 Жыл бұрын

man the torx bit worked awesome! Thank you!

@aarioshahbany8440 9 ай бұрын

Finally this worked for me. God bless you!

@cartijamfacevert371 3 жыл бұрын

Three sides socket worked great thanks you saved my life ! My Allen bolt rounded on my e46 pressure plate lol

@jameearl 2 жыл бұрын

I doubted you for a minute the first couple didn’t work for me but you came thru in the end! Thanks

@sundown798 Жыл бұрын

Well done! Cutting the groove slit into the faster with a Dremel or a drill to cut as deep as you can then using a wide flat screwdriver or chisel to extract is one of the best hacks with limited tools when all else fails. :)

@simonellis7071 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the very helpful tips!! I can now attempt 2 x fastener on the worn disc , on my motorcycle. I never knew the various options. Much appreciated 🙏😊

@caseymiller7297 3 жыл бұрын

Really good video brother, this helped me out a lot. Thanks!

@shirleymedina2267 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I used one of your suggestions and it worked!

@DynastyJr 8 ай бұрын

This video made me realize i had the equipment i needed thank you

@johnbossom2291 10 ай бұрын

Thanks! Drilling out the center of the hex bolt then tapping in a triple square did the trick!

@alexrobertson232 Жыл бұрын

I've got a rounded out M8 Triple Square Socket bolt to deal with, I think I'll look for a slightly bigger sized Hex bit and mallet that in before using the impact driver to try take it off. Interesting tricks and techniques, thanks for sharing !! A great and informative video.

@TheBrendon67 Жыл бұрын

Did it work?

@melvinstrike Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your help. I hammered in a torx bit and was able to unscrew the bolt.

@omarmoncloa3415 3 жыл бұрын

Great video man, very informative

@johnykryll 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent vid mate, really helpful

@gdaphoto 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this demo

@NEXTDIRECTIONSTUDIOS Жыл бұрын

Just wanted to say big thanks for this video it helped me out I used the Torx bit and hammer and impact gun to remove allen key head cap from throttle body so thanks again

@michaelmangino9819 3 жыл бұрын

Nice job on this great video. Great how to ideas.

@dehash666 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@postbyte1 2 жыл бұрын

I love the video. Most of the techniques used here are the common techniques I generally use. There's only one caveat to any of this is if you are working with clearance issues.

@seansimon9114 2 жыл бұрын

That’s my issue lol, I’m doing plugs on my Acura MDX and I did 5 of them already and they all have these hex screws but the last one is stripped and it’s at the front so I have like 0 space to work with 😂

@maciekkk123 2 жыл бұрын

Man thanks a lot, I had hard time with stripped hex 3mm bolt probably rounded close to 1/8" bolt and the T15 torx did the trick! :))

@bradyoung07 Жыл бұрын

Yes mate thanks for the advice that little suckers out now thanks 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@pospc2 3 жыл бұрын

I use the torx method most often. Sometimes I will use the left hand drill bit to slightly drill the hole larger to go up a size in torx. Hammer it in about 1/8th of an inch. Take a 3/8 impact and feather the trigger while pressing hard on the back of the tool. Works most of the time. I find this works best with electronic impacts since they often can be made to go slower.

@shegocrazy Жыл бұрын

I've got an air impact driver. Is it a bit dangerous to use of these with a torx bit to remove stuck countersunk bolts? I don't want to make the situation worse than it already is. I could buy an electric driver with variable speed if it is more likely to work.

@DIMTips 3 жыл бұрын

I have started to use a torque wrench to get it right. Great video

@kwakukumi4729 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah!!!!! You are a genius. It worked. I've been trying to remove this f#cking screw forever!!! Countless videos and this one worked!!! Thank you!!!! Dude. Thanks.

@anthony2039 9 ай бұрын

Thank you for this

@arborgirl8195 7 ай бұрын

Great video seriously!!!

@NathanStinson-gq5ks Ай бұрын

thanks this was really helpful it saved me hours

@el6750 3 жыл бұрын

Video sent from the heavens 🥲

@humgarllc1737 20 күн бұрын

I stripped one of these metric hex bolts by using imperial wrench on a hex cap bolt with loctite on it. When I was about to use one of these destructive methods you suggested, I recalled I have a pair of Vampilers and it worked.

@chessicahullum2896 2 жыл бұрын

Why is this so relaxing to watch....😆. Anywho great video

@hankschaffner2999 Жыл бұрын

Great video!

@EXPENDABLE50 3 жыл бұрын

I've always used a hex bit and Hammered it down in the hole. I took out a exhaust manifold bolt that had snapped in half leaving the remnants in the valve head body, i drilled out a hole just big enough to fit the bit in snug and the rest was easy day. Have used that method several times now. Love your vids

@MrTorexko Жыл бұрын

Hands down the best video out there. Thank you!

@emiliojorge5794 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome teaching vid ty

@jilla8265 2 жыл бұрын

im so jealous of this tool collection

@joehorecny7835 3 жыл бұрын

Very Nice! Hands on creative solutions to real world problems! Well done! Like always!

@ClientGraphics 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Joe for watching and commenting.

@heywoodjabozoff9383 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the ideas. if you use the screwdriver technique, using a vise grip on it can give more torque.

@AntonioClaudioMichael 3 жыл бұрын

I use the torx bit sockets the most and triple squares the most for stuff like this

@ClientGraphics 3 жыл бұрын

They were both really impressive and the triple square was a real fun one to pull and jiggle out. 👌🏻

@lilybean5068 3 жыл бұрын

I ran into this problem on my sway bar linkage, next time I'll give these a go. Thank you sir for tips to try in a jam. As always great video.

@ClientGraphics 3 жыл бұрын

You never know when you can use these tips. Sway bar links are a good example since they can directly be in the elements with salt and other materials that cause them to rust and round out easier.

@b.thompson9176 Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for this video! Saved my butt on time, trying to simply remove some screws that were torqued down by the Hulk in some crappy Chinese manufacturing plant. So frustrating!

@AslanBehar 3 жыл бұрын

I removed the damaged torque bolt by hammering a bigger size torx bit inside it and then removed easily.

@tjr8063 3 жыл бұрын

Yes use one of them when a hex is tripped. Works wonders

@Duey_diditGarage 3 жыл бұрын

Good video really glad that the XTR is getting alot of use

@ClientGraphics 3 жыл бұрын

Kobalt XTR gets used a lot. When I need lots of power and torque it’s my go to 1/4” hex impact.

@LaGataNegra3073 3 жыл бұрын

I think the damaged fastener would come loose if the xtr just looks at it.

@lxunalt Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for saving my bike brakes.

@mywork2355 3 жыл бұрын

Got one unstuck by using the torx bit, thanks for the tip.

@bigdaddysshop8180 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 6, 7, 10, 12 and 16" Knipex Plyers.. they are AMAZING.

@misfitgarageutah Жыл бұрын

Hammering in a Torx is my go to for sure. Had to do that many many times before.

@subhachakraborti5880 3 жыл бұрын

Useful info, thanks. Can you do a video on how to do the same on a buttonhead m6x70 mm bolt?

@brendanmatelan2129 3 ай бұрын

I had a unique situation where a Holster I had was attached with Hex heads on a pancake head screw was striped. I ended up taking a dremel tool to cut out a groove to then take a flat head screwdriver to loosen it. Worked Perfectly. The screw was probably over tightened by the last owner and maybe held in place with some loctite.

@meslexoto 7 ай бұрын

Very advanced technology.

@jeffreyuyanik1182 3 жыл бұрын

This is great. Can you recommend the best tool to remove a t40 torx screw?

@Analyzer52 2 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot the triple square worked for an over tightened factory drive shaft hex bolt that had loctite on it. Got me out of a jam.

@beckytobey2984 Жыл бұрын

Wow! You know a lot! I'm still trying to learn one screw from the other. 3 hours today trying to remove screw from top of doorframe. I have cussed many times

@tubeo94 10 ай бұрын

I came back to this video to tell you that: After scouting the internet for 2 fucking years, the triple square FUCKING WORKS. The clearance is 5” it was impossible to drive anything in, any bolt extractor would be too long. But you came along with the mighty triple square. I thought i would spend hundreds to get it out but sir you saved me.

@mouchovskij Жыл бұрын

thanks boss!

@greyduck383 7 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@ClientGraphics 7 ай бұрын

Glad I could be helpful in offering options. Super thanks to you!

@danielschneider1663 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks bro trying to fix my motorcycle and I have stripped exhaust bolts! Now I have a plan!

@ClientGraphics 3 жыл бұрын

Exhaust bolts heat and use a loosen and tightening method.

@shegocrazy Жыл бұрын

This is really good. I have countersunk hex slot bolts they I want to get off. The hex slots are rounded so I'm going to try the torx bit method. Can you use an air powered impact driver or is that too aggressive? You can't control the speed of the impact driver. I'd buy an electric one if that was safer to use. I do have an impact drill so would that work as well as a dedicated impact driver?

@orif3088 3 ай бұрын

Thanksss this workeddd for meee

@Ryan_1997 2 жыл бұрын

I have a Allen bolt that’s stripped on the fork of my bike(Moto). lm Gona have to try these methods you used. Luckily it’s just one. Going to replace with hex heads when I get it removed. I tried welding a hex sock onto it, but it broke off. Unsure of what type of metal it is and I didn’t want to leave burn marks on the rim. Thanks for these demos 👍🏼

@qwerty2008100 3 жыл бұрын

I usually use the torx trick. A more unconventional method I've used was to hit it at an angle with a center punch. The point of the punch will dig into the screw, and the sudden shock works like an impact driver to break loose the fastener. You may need to hit it several times, working your way around the outside edge of the head.

@ClientGraphics 3 жыл бұрын

I have not personally tried that method due to time and patience. But I hear it can work.

@aries6776 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing. A good technique to have in the back pocket.

@PeterPrestonUK 2 жыл бұрын

I suspect you've just saved me a huge amount of cash! Thank you for the video and all the options. Looks like torx to the rescue for me.

@PeterPrestonUK 2 жыл бұрын

UPDATE: I couldn't find the torx tools so ended up cutting the slot and using the flat screwdriver, as much as anything because it was a tight space on a rotating cylinder so couldn't get enough purchase. Now I just have to figure out the dimensions for the replacement bolts...

@garettgullion Жыл бұрын

that intro got me hyped to remove stripped bolts

@niallenglish3777 Жыл бұрын

cool vid, thanks 4 th lesson, some of these no doubt come in handy. Not all rounded screws are so easy to access tho. as you know, any other tips for getting at them with limited access, like say there at th bottom a a very small hole? Longer triple sq or torque bits and some kinda xtension I recon, then to hammer them in I suppose, hope tha does th job. Got some pretty nasty s outside on th deisel injectors of th van right now, also some holes needing re-threading.

@garethturner4811 Жыл бұрын

awesome thanks , worked on a bolt on a guitar I needed to remove .

@thadthompson4929 6 ай бұрын

Thank you! You just allowed me to get that screw out and now I can make the repair and go on my trip!

@onOnewheel_jay Жыл бұрын

great video my frend liked and subbed

@thisisyaren Жыл бұрын

hey man great video... I want to ask you though what triple square are you using in the video and also what mm hex is that you are trying to remove? thanks man!

@AntonioClaudioMichael 3 жыл бұрын

Only problem with the pliers and grinder method is these socket Allen caps are usually recessed inside something so best bet most of the time is a torx or triple square bit socket but all of these are great methods good job Chris @ClientGraphics

@ClientGraphics 3 жыл бұрын

For sure that can be the difficulty. Thankfully they make long and extra long torx and triple squares🤣🤣

@AntonioClaudioMichael 3 жыл бұрын

@@ClientGraphics exactly bro 💯

@aries6776 11 ай бұрын

Yep the mechanic I take my car to has 'accidentally' completely butchered my recessed M8 brake disc screw (highly suspicious as he's very experienced), so when I went to replace my disks I hit a brick wall but I actually have a T45 bit in my tool box to try on it tomorrow!

@AntonioClaudioMichael 11 ай бұрын

@@aries6776 best of luck getting that sucker out

@Hoaxer51 9 ай бұрын

Here’s an old Red Green quote (you’ve probably heard one of his sayings like “A grinder and paint make me the welder I ain’t”) but this one fits this situation “Remember, I’m pulling for you. We’re all in this together”! Lol

@newtwitchclipper 8 ай бұрын

11:56 you welded a nut on there but would jb weld work? i have some super rusty caliper pin bolts that are hex socket cap head and the 1st one i attempted i stripped it, and i had a lot of weight on my breaker bar prob 100ftlbs and used pb blaster too

@lynnes1864 Жыл бұрын

OMG! So glad I found this. I'm putting together a monitor stand for working at home and TWO of the hex screws were stripped. Since they were really small, I was able to use some ordinary pliers from a generic tool kit I already had.

@lberc20 2 жыл бұрын

If the torx bit doesn’t work, I found that a flathead also works extremely well, if not better for some cases. I didn’t have a torx bit big enough, so I hammered in a flat head and it worked first try

@Kmac23YT 3 жыл бұрын

I have a very small Allen/bolt in my red dot sight that it rounded what would you recommend for that? It’s very small.

@palerider6611 2 жыл бұрын

Good advice here. Recently had a 5mm button head cap screw that someone put excessive red loctite on the thread. Tried several methods and ended up cutting off parts of the button head with a grinding wheel to make flats so that I could finally remove with vice grips.

@ezrider1967 Жыл бұрын

sounds like the screws I stripped on my planer blade bar!

@andreioancea416 Жыл бұрын

This is a great tutorial because my back freestyle scooter afle is stuck and this will suflet work.

@keshmo12 3 жыл бұрын

I've never worked on anything that I needed a triple square for. Good video

@ClientGraphics 3 жыл бұрын

Triple square fasteners are commonly found on German vehicles such as Audi, BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, and definitely Volkswagen.

@user-wq5zt3px6l 3 жыл бұрын

Fiat

@aries6776 11 ай бұрын

Just thought of a few more tips. In the real world it's likely to happen when you've got corrosion seizing the threads too. Use some penetrant anti-rust fluid up to 24 hours before. WD40 will work in a pinch but something like Boeshield although expensive works really well. Increasing torque and reducing friction are keys. And induction heaters can work well and more safely than blow torches to break the bind. Expand the bolt with heat and then quench it with water to rapidly contract and break that adhesion.

@CorvetteTrev 3 жыл бұрын

All my fastners are usually flush. So I'd have no socket option. i.e. steering wheels, batteries, seat mounts... I'm always looking for the best to get them from the top only?

@blongsta5 3 жыл бұрын

Replacing the diverter valve on my Audi A4 and stripped out 2 of the hex screws. Barely any room. Got one out with a vise grip and the other with Irwin bolt extractors

@knyshov 3 жыл бұрын

Don’t forget the wonderful impact screwdrivers. :)

@ClientGraphics 3 жыл бұрын

Yup, definitely a must have item. I bought one years ago to remove fastener on older motorcycles.

@aries6776 11 ай бұрын

The only thing I would add is that you might find an imperial allen key works as an intermediate in a rounded out metric socket head. For example I have a M8 rounded out screw which needs an 6mm allen key but a 1/4" (6.35mm) would be easier to hammer in there than a 7mm allen key.

@JustCreateYou 3 жыл бұрын

No homo bro but I love you. 🤣 Amazing ass video !

@likeaboss882 3 жыл бұрын

This is pretty handy, sucks that the rbrt stuff doesn’t work that well especially considering the price. But i have used torx bits in the past to great success