All three judges giving the last round to Oscar is insanity. But hey thats US boxing apparently

Yeah, de la Hoya was fat at middleweight. One division too high for him. Note the soft abdomen. Also wore a high cup (basically the WBA belt) in the Vargas fight also. Clearly Hopkins noticed this studying Oscar leading up to their fight. As we all know how that turned out. He knew Oscar was covering an obvious weakness. Why else would he try to wear a cup so high, when it’s against regulation? You know he probably pushed the cup super low backstage to pass the commission. Or just payed them 😉

💯 agree

Just like de la Hoya beat Mayweather

If the Contract with Hopkins were not fixed he would won the Fight. Much Money out there. Everybody thought it will be easy Sparring against Felix, they proofed wrong. Except the Decision it was a great Fight.

He was clearly surprised when he got the decision

A set up ! Nothing more Gift the title to de la Hoya,Then make a ''BIG PPV'' fight between Oscar and Hopkins Boxing is a savage joke

He absolutely knew he lost, look at his face before thy announce the decision. He never expected to have won this fight, and he should've admitted. What a shame for boxing, they just wanted to become the Hoya/Hopkins fight to happen!

Just like Pernell Whitaker’s 🥊Lesson he got served, a while back...

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One of the biggest boxing robberies of all time.

Boxing is business. They wont throw away the bhop fight. Vegas robbed oscar a win too on mosley. Mosley's career also was on downhill and they have to save hiss ass to fight big for them another day. bet wisely🤑

This is one time when de la Hoya should have disobeyed his trainer in the corner with that shell defense he was using. Remember everyone that Floyd Jr was taught these things when he could walk by three professional boxers in the family. At the beginning of the fight when they said Papa Floyd had been trying to turn Oscar into a blaxican, I thought it was kind of funny but then I knew what he was talking about once I saw it happening. Oscar always fights best when he's on his toes and using the jab and standing tall but in this fight he was using that shell defense where you duck down and try to dodge punches like this and he even had his left shoulder up like Floyd uses it. Again, Floyd learned that thing 40 years ago. I think the guy won and it works to draw. I'm not going to put it all on Papa Floyd because after all Oscar is the guy paying his trainer lots of money. It was just no reason to try to change Oscar's way of fighting and most especially against someone that could have been destroyed if only Oscar would fall the way he normally does which is on the toes and the jabs. he's absolutely flat-footed and crouching down in that freaking crab defense and you see what happens when people really don't know how to use it or have just learned it. That's not an excuse for Oscar but at some point if you're a fighter you've got to start thinking to yourself I'm paying this trainer and this little technique he's giving me ain't working because it's so foreign to me. If Dale or you would have come into that fight just like you did against Trinidad and Mosley, even though he had a loss that was a little controversial in those, his fighting style is on the toes and jabbing until he can use his reach because he has a Long reach for somebody his height. I could be wrong but I think they said Oscar's reach was longer by one inch compared to the Bosnian German. At the absolute worst it should have been a draw and that's at the worst. Don't everybody come at me because I said Papa Mayweather shouldn't have been teaching Oscar that defensive strategy when he's in his thirties and he's not going to pick it up easily or be productive and we saw that it wasn't productive. in the middle of the fighter at some point I felt like Floyd senior was going to say okay listen Oscar I want you to fight like you did against Trinidad. He lost against Trinidad but I think anybody that has seen that fight remembers his corner told him he was about four rounds ahead so Oscar just went on the bicycle the last four rounds or whatever. With Mosley it was a controversial loss. He was doing decent against Hopkins but that liver shot was the end. When he fought Mayweather and backyard, this is when the guy was having all kinds of problems outside of the Ring from what I've always seen and been told. Wasn't he doing some weird things and people had hidden cameras and then sold the video to paparazzi? I don't know if you guys have heard that story but apparently he was dressed in female underwear before sex with the lady. I think he was also drinking like mad during those days too because when he came into Pacquiao and Mayweather fight, he did not look in shape and he looked flabby. He really didn't look that much in shape in this fight to be honest but that's not taking it away. Usually he comes in with a tan and his skin is kind of like golden because Oscar has light colored skin anyway. When he comes in and there's no color on his skin then that lets me know he hasn't been outside jogging like he had been his entire career so this fight and then in the Pacquiao and Mayweather fights, go back and just look at his shape and his body and try to tell me that he worked hard for those fights he thought he was going to be able to go in there and beat Pacquiao and beat Mayweather because he was taller and he had reach advantage and all this other stuff but that's just not the way it works if you don't train and as Floyd Mayweather has always said,.. easy work hard work and dedication. When white skinned Oscar comes into the ring, I like he did in this one and then Pac-Man and Floyd, I just think he was trying to make some cash and he just did not take time to train because he felt like he didn't need the train to beat these guys and you found out differently. I will have to give him a little heads up when it comes to fighting Floyd because he did a lot better with Floyd then he did when he fought Pacquiao. I mean I don't think Oscar de la Hoya has ever quit on the stool and the corner until that fight against Pacquiao now people that don't like Pacquiao probably going to say yeah Pacquiao was on drugs but not ever proven to be on any kind of drugs that I know of but he did have a fear of needles and that's an honest phobia that people can have. Now if I wanted to do a rebuato I could say yeah it's a real good phobia to have if you've been juicing hahaha

Aaron Figueroa yeah but now a days sturms matches are awarded and given to him when he fights in Germany

@@rodolfomorenoiii135 does that mean he deserved to be robbed here? this robbery blocked him from getting the undisputed big money fight with hopkins.

Kudos I don't know. It just tells you how bad this actually was. In fact, I found myself rooting for Oscar's opponents repeatedly just because the commentary was so obviously biased.

Percentage isn't used to score a fight.

@A C H I'm impressed by the things you know. Kudos.

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De la Hoya won

@@justakidtryingtomakeitgrin4417 POST YOUR SCORECARD

Hes Bosniak man we are dinaric and had this Physically ability for Sports Adnan Catic aka Felix Sturm ,Zlatan Ibrahimovic etc

ya he did. and the interview that Dela Hoya gave shows that he knows he lost the fight. these kind of robberies make me sick. that shit ain't right. 😠

@@michaelscofield31 Yup! that's what killed watching boxing. You had a better chance on picking the real winner fom a wwe match. 😂😂

I watched it too...the decision what a joke💯💯

one of the all time great thefts they couldnt have dela hoya losing as the money fight against hopkins was over dave 50

Yup.. The fact that they were talking about the Hopkins fight more than the Stum fight and called this card "Collision Course" was proof that the only winner was going to be De La Hoya here...

this fight was at MGM grand not cesears palace

The same that mayweather got his butt beaten by alots of boxers but the sorry judges gives it to mayweather too much!

@@johnnycardenas7321 wrong! Nice try though. Mayweather has never got his butt beaten

@@LeoS300 no he didnt though

Del La Hoya got robbed even worse against Trinidad.

YEAH, FELIX STURM WINS

yea rigged for a hopkins fight. digusting

Hopkins was a different weight class ….. in his prime nobody better than De la hoya.

@@andyreynoso8195 in his prime he still wouldn't even be a top 5 fighter all time at any weight class he fought at... 130, 135, 140, 147, 154, 160.... None of those was he even touching top 5.

@@anti-classist he didn’t dodge one single name and all his loses early one were questionable…. Beat Trinidad, Beat Mosley 2nd one ….. Mayweather dodged him for life till he was old.

***** Well all popular fighters in their home country usually get the robbery honestly, America is definitely the worst of the bunch. yeah true I despise these named fighters, Sturm the fucking coward, while he gets big cash and lots of big fights, Golovkin sits idle, boxing is so fucked lol

I remember watching this live. Absolute robbery. Think of the career Sturm could've had if he'd had gotten the decision? Crazy.

He coulda/woulda had the same career. He woulda fought Hopkins afterward and been eaten up, then returned to the Eurocentric career he had otherwise. According to Boxrec Sturm fought exactly once outside Europe, and you're watching it.

+jerry hello He did ok. I don't think it would have been that much of a difference to put Oscar on paper as a win in his column. Not that Oscar isn't great but if you're a real fan. A honest one. You will know that Sturm is adding a man two weight classes below his. They would have discredited him for that.

@@slide4180 maybe so, but that was his Undisputed payday to win lose or draw, not oscars. none of that excuses this blatant robbery.

@@jerryhellosome judges qualify clean and harder punches ....some others don't....like in Mayweather fights judges qualify on Pointes

He couldn't even lift the belt because he knew he lost

Sorry haters but i had oscar winning this match 113 to 114 close fight though!

David Perez u either are bias for Oscar or u suck at scoring

De la hoya combinations gave him the fight

Boxing was killed when Don King got his hooks into most of the top fighters in it and many fighters got on PEDs afterward (I predicted Roy Jones, Holyfield, and other "blown up" superboys would begin losing right and left when all the boxing associations started drug testing in the early 2000s, and was indeed correct). Now many champs and "top ten" ranked boxers in most classes come from Russia and Europe, where PED technology is still ahead of Western testing and title fights are now routinely held.

Felix Sturm is an absolute beast. Jesus he's good. He was toying with oscar too. I still have no clue how they gave that to Oscar

You don't give a rematch to someone who beat your ass this bad...,You know you'll get whooped again,and your legacy would be the cheating lier thief!

There is a reason why score cards exists.

How was it easy???lol

@Tarik Hodzic C'mon. This was a bad decision, but nowhere near the worst robbery. Go look up Whitaker/Ramirez or Whitaker/Chavez.

LOL. Mike Tyson was 5'11" and weighed 230 lb. I'm 5'10" and I weighed 165 lb back in college... in peak physical shape. Today I'm 190 lb and can still go. De La Hoya's weight was perfect at 160.

@@taekwondotime De La Hoya was a skinny guy, even when he bloated up to 154. Not everyone's body is the same. Tyson was always short and stocky. De la Hoya never was.

@@mr.b9613 Yes but at 160 lb that's an ideal weight for De La Hoya. He's 5'10". He shouldn't be any lighter than 160 lb or he's starving himself.

Sturm Missed Alot At The Start and At The End Landed More

I bet you're also the guy that says Trinidad and Mosley got good decisions against Oscar? Hypocrisy at its best.

Lmao he didnt dominate DLH wdf did u watch?

Actually Oscar was doing decent against Hopkins until that liver shot

Naw he was skillful but in his career he ducked GGG his mandatory for years. Everyone wanted to see that fight in Germany, Felix petition the WBA to be elevated to super champion to avoid GGG

Even cesar chavez sr vs pernell Whitaker is robery i think that whitaker win that fight and teach chavez sr a boxing leason

​@@antonioarias9078still won multiple belts man

RUDOLPHLYRICS sturm seem to be walking him down in the first couple of rounds , but wasn’t winning them I had 7-5 sturm . Some really close rounds .

@@Artistboxing I had Sturm won 5 clean rounds, De La Hoya 3 rounds. The other 4 rounds could go either way, but I think Sturm clearly should win this fight.

lol I know I still have yet to see even 3 rounds he's won.. I've watched this fight more than 4 times now. Where are the rounds, can anyone point them out? It's going to be next to impossible

So did I, I think It was 5.30 in the morning when it started👍

@@gorggorg1727 epic boxing match apart from the winner

Simon Bannow absolutely, Sturm at the beginning of his pro-career an under the hands of his trainer Michael Timm was really incredible to watch👌

How were they controversial? No1 saw Whitaker win except Golden boy haters and quarter got dropped twice, what fight we're you watching

What fight did u watch? Lol like hit the canvas twice & sweet pea just won the defensive part , oscar beat him like he did floyd

@@Montoya1991 huh? Whitaker clearly won that fight. What fight did you watch?

Oh no not this bullcrap again. The Whitaker & Quartey fights were close but De La Hoya did enough to get the W

@@herociouz no he didn't, he wasn't the champion in those fights, you take the belt to win the championship... Whitaker landed more and at a higher percentage... What more do you have to do to win a fight? Quartey was closer but imo it was clearly quartey winning.

I think sturm was simply just to big and young for him...

Sturm is not too good for DLH lol. He didn't train seriously. He made a huge mistake. He figured he'd take a quick tune up for Hop and it backfired. He was too big and going for a mistake like that. Either way, he was honest and said it could have gone either way. Secind of all, he looked alot better against bhop until that body shot.

lol. True. turm is just so obviously a better fighter.

9on

Ironic coming from the Ottke fan

I got 115-113.

​@@CesarPerez-it8xyridiculous.

So true. ethnic bosnian+German work ethic. The dude was the complete package, and he was robbed. it's sad

It really was like you said a very stiff jab, just devastating. He landed it at will and everytime it rocked DLH's whole body back. Even the audience groaned at several of them

You say it best Bro! 👏

Yeah. Spot on 🎯🎯🎯 I totally agree 🇲🇽🇲🇽 He was one absolutely lovable guy. A true champion

Facts

This makes what Canelo does all the more impressive Canelo is barely 5’8 fighting dudes like Bivol, Kovalev, Callum Smith, Caleb plant, Gennady etc… Oscar was 5’11 with an elite amateur background and couldn’t hang with the big boys Canelo makes it look easy at 168lbs.

​@@ShinigamiUchihax2canelo use steroids...de la hoya not

It couldn't have gone either way lol, Oscar got schooled. Tf are you tlalking about?

Hahaha 😆

Jose Ortiz he won the judges scored it for him duh

YEAH, FELIX STURM WINS ON THIS FIGHT

and they took away Sturm's 9 ko's after the fight

A lie don’t care who tell it. Oscar is naturally 154 so how is it two weight classes. He got beat and that’s it excuses aren’t needed

@@drewgaston189 Strong disagree. Oscar didn´t start fighting at 154 until he was 28 years old. His natural weight class was welterweight. He was also fat and past his prime here, excuses or not.

ElSpewtardo More excuses.... Fat?? Whose problem is that?? Past his prime ?Should retire and stop fighting. All excuses when in fact he just got his ass whooped.. Sometimes there are fighters that are better and then there are fights you just shouldn’t take

@@drewgaston189 Let me guess. You´re a Mayweather fan. lol

ElSpewtardo I’m a boxing fan but to answer your question yes. What I’m trying to figure out is what does mayweather have to do with this?

No he didn’t punk!!!

lol he literally didn't land a punch in the 12th round big guy. tf are you talking about? Every single shot he threw upstairs, landed on sturm's gloves. I honestly don't know how you can say "he showed heart" sure I guess, if you mean he didn't get dropped.

yeah that's what it was. Sturm is really a 160/168 fighter. Hell he's there now. 168 title holder. Oscar was 147/ barely 154. Alot of people thought that was his max. Oscar was somewhat slim fighter. Leonard, canelo, Trinidad, Even Victor Ortiz all looked bulkier heavier than Oscar did.

Euro fighter. He won belts in Europe

+Terrence Talbot This Friday again, Chudinov was better.

+Terrence Talbot Yes man, this is so wrong. Just bad for the sport.

Sturm was screwed out of the win because a De La Hoya/Hopkins fight was already in the works (hence the fight night being named "Collision Course") and was hinged on both fighters getting past their opponents. DLH/Hopkins looked more lucrative & attractive than a Hopkins/Sturm fight would have. Ian Darke of Skye Sports said "De La Hoya got the benefit of high charity," and most everyone agreed. I WILL give DLH credit for admitting he didn't look good (like he did after the Whitaker fight), but the damage had been done...

Naw, I give the judges and the "boxing establishment" credit for De La Hoya's win.

Nils Morgel. i know

Sturm is 100% without a doubt a better fighter than Oscar... It's not even close. He got completely robbed. Pretty disgusting to watch

lol no sturm is just a better fighter. Stop coping about this. Oscar was great... But just because sturm was an unknown doesn't mean he wasn't great. Calzaghe was another one who barely gets any recognition for his amazing accomplishments