Dream those playoffs were on another level

Ewing , Malone , Barkley , Robinson and a young Shaq . Other than MJ , the 90' s were really the golden era of big men and Hakeem dominated them all on both ends of the floor

@@stivstilianos980 odd how hakeem and MJ never got to really go at it in the finals. Same way kobe and lebron

@@realitybites629 Crazy how it affected their legacy if you think about it. Imagine if Jordan kept playing and didn't retire. If Hakeem beat Jordan, he might not be in front of Lebron, for losing in his prime and Hakeem would be staple in everyones top ten (he's steady in the 11-15th spot) and he would still have his two chips. If Jordan beat Hakeem it would take his legacy to another level, beating one of the most dominant two way centres ever and winning 2 more chips, he would be firmly supplant himself as GOAT.

@@realitybites629 because Olajuwon could never get out of the first round most of his career

They would've beaten a 73 WIN team!

Could've, should've, would've...They didn't

Cavs would've won regardless

@@MrE_ thunder would`ve won. Cavs had no one to guard KD and Westbrook. Adams, Kanter and Ibaka would be a problem in the backcourt for the cavs. Andre Roberson on Bron

@@tj5180 2016 was the only year that the big 3 of Love, Kyrie, and that Lebron guy were healthy together. KD and Westbrook wouldn't have been enough for just lebron and Kyrie, let alone Love who was also there

Would have been the most impressive title ever

Drink Me Yes it would have. Beating a 67 win team, then a 73 win team than lebrons cavs just short of 60 wins all on the road. That’s the most combined wins by an opponent in league history

lebrons the goat it's not easy losing 6 finals.

MJ had to go through Ewing's Knicks, Reggie's Pacers and Shaq & Penny's Magic, teams that were winning around 55-60 games and if it wasn't for MJ's Bulls they'd have won at least 1 championship. Lebron had to go through an old Celtics squad, PG & Lance Stephenson's Pacers, Millsap's Hawks & rookie Tatum & Rozier's Celtics. Lebron faced some tougher teams in the Finals but when it comes to the path to the Finals, it's not close, MJ faced tougher competition.

@@makis7383 Ewing Knicks were dreadful. Indiana was mediocre at best Orlando was alright

HALL OF FAMERS FACED IN PLAYOFFS LeBron has effectively played 5 more seasons than Jordan since one season Jordan broke his foot and another sesson he returned rusty Jordan : 71 HOF faced in playoffs LeBron : 60 HOF faced in playoffs this is because Jordan faced all time great teams in East like Celtics and Bad Boys (Rank# 1 and Rank# 5 all time) and two teams that were touted as "next great dynasty" after Lakers and Celtics, the Cleveland Cavaliers and Orlando Magic. the Eastern conference was dominant LeBron spent most of his playoffs playing against the weak East where there was no competition, everybody was old, and everybody was injured. the Western conference was dominant

@@melvynsngltn27 clearly not very bright

Thats why lebron went to wade. Not wade coming to lebron to learn how to win a chip.

They couldn't win in either 1994 or 1995 or 1999, 2000 etc etc etc those teams were far from great

not only did Jordan face more competitive teams than LeBron, every team Jordan faced in playoffs actually played defense none of the teams LeBron has every faced in the playoffs play defense. in fact, LeBron has never faced an actual NBA defense in his entire career. talk about an easy path to greatness

@@melvynsngltn27 that's such a weak argument. If MJ's Bulls weren't existant, those teams would not only have a chance to win a championship in 1994, 1995, 1999 & 2000, but also in other 6 years (1991-1993 & 1996-1998). Don't tell me that in a 10 season span from 1990-91 to 1999-00, Ewing's Knicks, Reggie's Pacers and Shaq & Penny's Magic couldn't win at least 1 championship.

@@melvynsngltn27 Also in the years you mentioned one of those teams were in the Finals and had a legitimate chance to win a champioship. So don't sit up there saying that they were far from great, you can't be far from great and make the Finals. Without MJ's Bulls they'd simply have more opportunities.

@Drink Me when did I say that those teams weren't competitive??? I praise those teams in order to enhance my argument about MJ's competition in his playoff runs.

That’s like sayin Mj couldn’t beat a 63 win piston team

You are clearly a casual fan because anyone with any basketball knowledge would know that Terry was a good player. And that same Dallas team sweep Kobe haha

The Mamba but mj didn’t d wade and bosh in there primes and wasn’t arrogant and promised a ring like what lebron did

60 wins in expansion era?

Tha Ruthless 1_ AZF LeBron should not have been getting burned by an old ass sixth man on offense and defense. And who cares if they swept LA, you only bring that shit up like it’s some sort of justification of why a heavily favored Miami team lost to Dallas. Bottom line a team with 3 of the top ten players at the time should not have lost to The lone all star Dirk and his team.

Ew you watch KZfaq without headphones

That just shows how weak the 1990's were they had the most 60 win team seasons in NBA history most of those 60 win teams were because the NBA was mediocre as hell, how many 60 win teams did he beat in the 1980's 🤔🤔🤔🤔

@@melvynsngltn27 how many bums were in his load in the 80s? 🤔

@@kingdinodragonite3470 how many bums did his competition have in the 1990's the NBA was littered with trash rosters

@Risner France Garces jokes on you, the refs fucked up. Lebron ain't winning 2016 without paying the refs like the lakers did in 02.

@Risner France Garces that because he won 70 games, question you should be asking is why's LeBron can't win 70 games?

the only ones who say that are mostly Low IQ bron fans

i think it was a troll to the admiral

He said “made Robinson look foolish out there”

G.O.A.T argument over. MJ 🐐

Wait, so Wade should be in the argument for GOAT then than Kobe and Lebron because they weren't even here as well but Wade, Hakeem, and MJ should have been in the GOAT discussion if we gonna used your logic then

@@alexiscando5709 That wasn't the point of his comment. The point is that LeBron's resume is a bit overrated and also a bit misleading. Making the finals so many times would be much more impressive if the east actually had strong competition during his time, but they didn't. It's still an impressive thing to have done, but it just loses a little of it's luster when you look at the competition he was facing during that run.

@Basketball Highlights And Videos What does his competition in the finals have to do with his run of making finals? Jackass..

That’s how the West goes sometimes.

Lakers 57 wins, OKC 55, Miami 58. Mavs didn't play Spurs or Bulls

Wilson Sy hi 👋

Spurs lost to the 8th seed and the bulls didn’t make the finals case it was basically drose carrying a bunch of bums

@@john.d193 Noah was decent though.

Your right without Shaq or Lebron Miami was mediocre that's why Shaq was second in MVP voting in 2005 Miami won 59 games while LA was terrible?? How many 50 win seasons did Wade lead them too again??????????

Melvyn Singleton dwade never had a decent team since shaq and lebron left. His best team was in 2016 and bosh went down with blood clot again. Plus shaq chose miami because of dwade. Same with lebron who said, “I needed him.”

@@Manu-qq2im I mean LeBron didn't need Wade, he just needed any top 20 player to win Championships. And yeah, D-Wade had some garbage ass teams from '07 - '10 % '14 - '15. Plus, Wade was clearly a much diminished player by 2013, and he was struggling with injuries, specifically knee problems, around 2014 and 2015; missing a lot of games. He's even said he considered retirement, and if LeBron wasn't playing with him, and it was just Bosh, I think Wade might've retired in '13 or '14. LeBron helped Wade further his career much more than Wade helped LeBron's legacy. Wade wasn't going to get to the conference finals, let alone the NBA finals again without LeBron. If LeBron would've stayed on the Cavs, and the team would've traded for a star or two (Joe Johnson got traded in 2011 to the Nets, Chris Paul got traded in 2011, and he could opt out of the last year contract in 2012. He wasn't heading the Clippers, because the Cavs wouldn't have traded Mo Williams to the Clippers, who sent the pick that turned out to be Kyrie to the Cavs. So the Clippers would've had Kyrie instead. The Clippers situation that CP3 was in had a lot of potential. Other places CP3 could've potentially been traded to (Besides the Knicks or the Cavs wouldn't have. It's likely CP3 would sign with the Cavs in 2012, as he's very good friend's with LeBron). The point is, LeBron would won 3 - 4 titles by now anyway, and it's likely some other all star caliber power forward/center would've signed with the Cavs if they had CP3 and LBJ (Paul Millsap, Aldridge, etc).

Elijah Ruderman delusional 😂 lebron said it himself literally. Lebron can join any team in 2010 and he ain’t winning any chip if it’s not with dwade and the heat. That loss to dallas motivated him and dwade told him that he should lead the team. No other player can do that for him. If you think i’m a lebron hater then you’re wrong. For me, lebron’s the goat but people should never disrespect dwade and think of him as someone who got carried by lebron lol. That espn all time list was stupid as hell. My only point was shaq and lebron CHOSE to join miami because of Dwade. And what happened? Both of these guys got what they’ve wanted. I mean he can choose chicago but he ain’t going there without dwade with him. Shaq even thanked dwade for his 4th ring because he didn’t do shit in that finals. We all know lebron and shaq’s greatness but people should never forget dwade’s greatness. Lebron will never have any teammate better than what dwade did. People talk about that 2014 finals, dwade never choked. He was injured. Look at 2013 when dwade was 70% healthy, saved the heat from being down 3-1.

Manu 06 LeBron also dropped like 33 in game 4 vs Spurs, so don’t act like D - Wade carries him. And AD is currently just as good as post 2011 D-Wade, and he will continue to improve, and I’d say he’ll be better than 2011 D-Wade, and night already he as good as him. AD is a DPOY candidate. I agree with you with everything else you said, including the ESPN list. But you sound dumb as hell saying that LeBron couldn’t win if he had Chris Paul. Chris Paul was much better than Wade from 2012 and later, and was just as good as Dwayne Wade from 2007 to 2012, if not better, having some of the best point guard seasons of all time. Chris Paul at his peak wasn’t as good as an alpha, #1 option, in the playoffs as Dwayne Wade, but he was very close. But as a number 2 option? I’d rather have the best all around point guard in NBA history (He does everything at an elite level), and I’m not saying he’s better than Steph, Magic, Jerry West, or Oscar, but Chris Paul as a number 2 option would be better than D - Wade. He’s a better passer, shooter, the best mid range shooter of the decade (He leads the NBA in fg% and makes for this decade from the elbows (to the right and of the free throw line) ), and would be a much better long term option for LeBron than D - Wade. He is 3 years younger, and is currently playing just as good, if not better, than 2016 D-Wade, so he and LeBron would age perfectly together. They are two of the top ten 35 plus year olds to ever play in the NBA.

Em Em he said “Made Robinson look foolish out there”

@@joonygee yeah the entire Houston team guarding David Robinson

LBJ is not on this list.

Well said

​@@WilsonSyonly because Jordan left for a year and a half that's the only reason Hakeem has a ring

Then he called David Robinson Nate Robinson

@@Soldier979 I never noticed that part lol

yep that could have been the greatest playoff run ever

Risner France Garces yup

Cleveland

oops caps

Disagree. The only great team they faced is the 64 win pistons. In the 1st round the heat faced a wizards team who were great offensively but were trash defensively and the nets were ok but not great

You can say what you want but Robinson got outplayed that series straight up

Joseph Frank k but if u watch the series u would know that they both can’t defend each other

Just like Chicago with Jordan right??

Just like Lakers 2002 championship right??

@@alexiscando5709 just like all of the Bulls championships

@Drink Me Exactly. An argument could be made that the west had more depth in the 90s, but the top 2-3 teams were often in the east.

Loll that 73 gsw was injured kidd just like the 2019 gsw beat by Raptors (Kevin Durant injured)

not amazing when the Raptors had Demar who choked and underperformed also the Pistons were trash

Almost ever single one of those expansion teams were good teams within their first few seasons. Also the Heat and Hornets were tough playoff teams by the time the Bulls were working on their 2nd three peat.

dumbest narrative

Another reminder he averaged 40 ppg in one of those playoff series as a 2nd year player something that hasn’t been done since he retired!

His team was a 7th seed or lower in all 3 of those exits. Are we saying it's better to tank and miss the playoffs than to be ridiculed for an early career first round exit against top seeded contenders? 2 of those 3 first round exits were to the Celtics dynasty. Both those Celtics teams made the finals and the one that won the title is widely regarded as one of the 2 or 3 greatest teams of all-time.

MJ went ECF in 89 wihout Phil Jackson and Pippen wasn't an All Star. Daily Reminder.

@@crisaracon7379 Yeah like I said again.Jordan is 1-9 in the playoffs WITHOUT SCOTTIE and/or Phil Jackson.

Jordan is 1-9 in the playoffs before pippen and phil. Lebron never entered playoffs his first 2 seasons. MJ greater than bron for entering playoff his first 2 seasons.