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5 of the BEST Hoenn Pokémon Theories of all Time

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HoopsandHipHop

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@HoopsandHipHop
@HoopsandHipHop 5 жыл бұрын
It’s good to be back in the saddle! I hope you guys are having a wonderful holiday season!
@letycovarrubias9887
@letycovarrubias9887 5 жыл бұрын
you too
@lordheadass1909
@lordheadass1909 5 жыл бұрын
Soo the mega timeline is like the multiverse
@wildstarfish3786
@wildstarfish3786 5 жыл бұрын
1. finally something that relies on the ultimate weapon being fired in the timelines of gens 3-5 2. I don't like how this theory retcons x and y trying to be the same timeline as gens 1-5 3. this theory is really plausible and really dark but I can't think of anything wrong with this theory 4. I think I will check out the video after I finish this one 5. doesn't make sense once you consider the draconids only exist in the oras timeline (as far as we know)
@BBMacsWorld
@BBMacsWorld 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see you back. 💙💙
@mariscostumes3815
@mariscostumes3815 5 жыл бұрын
Dude I had a dream like three days ago that I met you and had lunch with you and talked about Pokemon theories. It was so realistic to and scary. Maybe it'll come true some day. I have deja vu dreams all the time
@chrisavila7030
@chrisavila7030 5 жыл бұрын
Deoxys is low key an ultrabeast theory
@AidanRatnage
@AidanRatnage 5 жыл бұрын
Reading braille with your eyes, who's the genius who came up with that?
@majelalover8837
@majelalover8837 5 жыл бұрын
braille appeared in all gen3 games, but it was actually translated in the manual.But very few people seemed to notice that...
@aikou2886
@aikou2886 5 жыл бұрын
@@majelalover8837 That's what I have read but I don't remember seeing that on my Emerald's manual.
@skullmeerkat
@skullmeerkat 5 жыл бұрын
愛乞う イクトAikou it was there! I think that’s the only way I caught any of the Regi-Pokemon.
@aikou2886
@aikou2886 5 жыл бұрын
@@skullmeerkat I never saw it, I used the internet to actually discover the whole thing (which made me believe in some other rumours because the whole regi thing was crazy lol).
@swone100
@swone100 5 жыл бұрын
No, the 3D creates bumps on the screen, silly.
@angrycorn6651
@angrycorn6651 5 жыл бұрын
One time when I was wonder trading, I got a Beartic with PKRS named Gonorrhea.
@richardwilliams6676
@richardwilliams6676 5 жыл бұрын
Angry Corn How did that slip through the sensors?
@cylasbreakdown6140
@cylasbreakdown6140 5 жыл бұрын
Erm...actually, that’s pretty funny.
@unrealisticfezant8344
@unrealisticfezant8344 5 жыл бұрын
Wat dos that mean
@dragongrrl3
@dragongrrl3 5 жыл бұрын
...wow...
@f0b618
@f0b618 4 жыл бұрын
UnRealisticFezant it’s an STD
@TheMissingLink2
@TheMissingLink2 5 жыл бұрын
*Sea Mauville theory is wrong. And here's why. :* Thanks to the pokedex entries of Yamask, we know for a fact that human souls can be turned into Pokemon when they die. With this said, the rules posted in the Sea Mauville complex seems to reinforce the idea of human "slave labor" rather than pokemon execution.... And knowing what we know about Japanese society, work in any type of office or technical field is very much like this...slave labor (Work extra long hours, don't take too many break, you belong to the company, put the company before everything else, etc.) It's almost as if the developers are taking a shot at Japanese work norms/society than anything else... With all of this information, combined with your point about Spiritomb's pokedex entry *and* the way you unlock spiritomb (by saving the game and turning it off aka "taking a break" of which it attacks you afterwards), it's far more reasonable to believe that Spiritomb was actually created by 108 human souls that came together after being worked to death on the Sea Mauville.
@lizarrrrrd795
@lizarrrrrd795 5 жыл бұрын
Well it still kinda right. Just replace Pokémon with humans.
@paulsavage564
@paulsavage564 5 жыл бұрын
@Analogous Speak If the human theory is to believed then maybe the people or slaves brought to sea mauvile where prisoners who committed serious crimes?
@brianberger1667
@brianberger1667 5 жыл бұрын
spiritbomb...
@TheMissingLink2
@TheMissingLink2 5 жыл бұрын
Brian Berger Phone autocorrect. Get over it.🙃 Can't always catch it. But I fixed it just for you.
@davidpt
@davidpt 4 жыл бұрын
Now that makes sense. The theory in the video was just pure speculation with little sense
@willkibbel1918
@willkibbel1918 5 жыл бұрын
Best Hoenn Theory #6: Rayquaza is just one big sentient string cheese
@richardwilliams6676
@richardwilliams6676 5 жыл бұрын
Will Kibbel Now you're making me hungry.
@mikebarnes7441
@mikebarnes7441 5 жыл бұрын
That's also what deoxys' arms are
@manueljaramillo2520
@manueljaramillo2520 5 жыл бұрын
I think you're onto something here.
@Blue__Oni
@Blue__Oni 5 жыл бұрын
@@mikebarnes7441 No his are spaghetti
@queermilkshake9990
@queermilkshake9990 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikebarnes7441 deoxys is the real Flying Spaghetti Monster, the Lord himself
@DJTileTurnip
@DJTileTurnip 5 жыл бұрын
When I hear Hoenn and Spiritomb I can only think of one thing Memento
@TheWizardMus
@TheWizardMus 5 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised there was no mention of the Braille messages in the original RSE that said " We sealed it, for we feared it's power"(I believe that's what it was) hinting towards Regigigas because those messages were in the singular, not the plural tence
@BlueSpring3
@BlueSpring3 5 жыл бұрын
What if the meteor in Hoenn was teleported in another version to the spin-of game Pokemon mystery dungeon team red? There is a meteor coming out if nowhere to hit their world and it is none other than Rayquaza, that ultimatly destroyes the meteor and saves everyone.
@ShadeZer0
@ShadeZer0 5 жыл бұрын
genius
@paulgrotebeverborg1119
@paulgrotebeverborg1119 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@imapotato5084
@imapotato5084 5 жыл бұрын
Omg yes o.o
@juanin200
@juanin200 5 жыл бұрын
That's actually what happens. In ORAS thanks to Mega-Evolution you destroy the meteor instead, but in RZE as there is no Mega Rayquaza you actually teleport the meteor to Team Red's dimension, where yeah, Rayquaza also destroys it.
@yoshii2757
@yoshii2757 4 жыл бұрын
@@juanin200 bruh in RSE the meteor crashes into hoenn and creates the triangle island
@BlueSpring3
@BlueSpring3 5 жыл бұрын
The 107 spirits from Spiritomb could also be from workers, that died in a huge accident. Now you can answer yourself why the project and the entire place was abandoned.
@wapson2176
@wapson2176 4 жыл бұрын
Blue Spring but spiritomb is made up of evil souls
@Unovakid24
@Unovakid24 5 жыл бұрын
can't wait for Sinnoh and Unova theories!
@le.banana
@le.banana 5 жыл бұрын
And dont forget the Kalos and Alola ones ;)
@richardwilliams6676
@richardwilliams6676 5 жыл бұрын
UnovaKid 24 Darkrai killed a little girl.
@harmannd7270
@harmannd7270 5 жыл бұрын
Sembreon pfffttt alola is trash
@notdamienirl
@notdamienirl 5 жыл бұрын
Harmann Dhaliwal kalos is worse but go off
@thegreatzandria
@thegreatzandria 5 жыл бұрын
Same ;D
@thelittenguy
@thelittenguy 5 жыл бұрын
The last theory with the Regi trio is interesting, probably the reason why Regigigas has the ability Slow Start.
@straikychan
@straikychan 5 жыл бұрын
The "Don't bring your Pokemon to work" rule just seems like a rule to not get distracted from work. Doesn't really imply them getting killed.
@zendzend5107
@zendzend5107 3 жыл бұрын
Theory: in a different reality where Steven sent the meteor to another dimension, he sent it to the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon world. Meaning that the meteor destroyed by Mega Rayquaza that carried Deoxys in the Delta Episode is the same one that Rayquaza destroyed in Mystery Dungeon Red and Blue.
@TheSuperM101
@TheSuperM101 5 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite theories is that Porygon2 actually became Deoxys in space as they both have basically the same moveset, colour scheme etc. and Porygon2 was created for space exploration according to some dex entries.
@carlosfulgencio849
@carlosfulgencio849 5 жыл бұрын
Bro in all honesty thanks for your videos. I have depression and in a really dark time of my life, your videos really helped me out.
@KertaDrake
@KertaDrake Жыл бұрын
Considering the presence of mega evolution in both Kalos and Hoenn... Maybe Hoenn was the target of the weapon originally and Sea Mauville was the impact site of the weapon blast? It could explain how they picked an ocean location like they did, looking for an area that had been saturated in the energy in the past!
@le.banana
@le.banana 5 жыл бұрын
3:22 ZINNIA KNEW THANOS WOULD HAPPEN! O_o
@timekeeperz9714
@timekeeperz9714 5 жыл бұрын
R/woooosh me all you want guys but, Thanos existed before infinity war
@gerardoareyesm
@gerardoareyesm 4 жыл бұрын
daconids are wise people
@JohnnyJacoby
@JohnnyJacoby 5 жыл бұрын
This Infinity Energy Theory oddly reminds me of Fullmetal Alchemist and the tributes it takes to create a philosophers stone.
@Lil-Dragon
@Lil-Dragon 5 жыл бұрын
Always happy to see a Hoops video and great to know you had a good holiday season. Hope the new year rings in good for everyone and starts off well.
@pixelated_pat
@pixelated_pat 5 жыл бұрын
The deoxys bit got me wondering what if Deoxys had a mega Evo, pretty safe to say we won't ever get one since we would have gotten it in ORAS and it probably would have oversaturated the Delta Episode with Mega Evolution. Plus, between all the forms it already has, it would probably be broken if it got a mega EEvo. Still pretty cool see a possible link between the ultimate weapon and Deoxys, hopefully in the future we can see a theory around the concept of connecting the energy of the ultimate weapon to explaining Deoxys ability to change forms
@cylasbreakdown6140
@cylasbreakdown6140 5 жыл бұрын
Wait, the mega evolution timeline split is technically a theory? I always thought that was canon.
@emc246
@emc246 5 жыл бұрын
There is no Canon timeline. There are pieces of evidence to make a timeline, but no official statement.
@shytendeakatamanoir9740
@shytendeakatamanoir9740 5 жыл бұрын
Alternate universes are canon (Gen 5 exemplifies that pretty well). So the general rules are there, but not the details that totally confirms it.
@michaelballack3051
@michaelballack3051 5 жыл бұрын
@@emc246 Actually there is a canon timeline confirmed by one of Gamefreak's employee.The chronology of the games was confirmed by Toshinobu Matsumiya on Twitter in May 2014, but the tweet was deleted shortly after. No further comments on the chronology or deletion of the tweet have been made by Game Freak staff members. imgur.com/pvba5Ur
@skiirad7149
@skiirad7149 5 жыл бұрын
Im sorry for watching late Hoops. I wish you a very meaningful new year!
@HoopsandHipHop
@HoopsandHipHop 5 жыл бұрын
Same to you! :)
@Shikamaru815
@Shikamaru815 5 жыл бұрын
I love anything to do with the Regis. I love all 4 of them :D
@waluigi8994
@waluigi8994 5 жыл бұрын
BBC earth uploaded a video at the same time as you
@arrow_awsome
@arrow_awsome 5 жыл бұрын
waluigi Because they wanna be as informative as this video.
@waluigi8994
@waluigi8994 5 жыл бұрын
@@arrow_awsome makes sense
@Lukas02_
@Lukas02_ 5 жыл бұрын
Damn these theory’s are good
@classicgaming1970
@classicgaming1970 4 жыл бұрын
Damn I would love to see a reggi be the star in a horror movie I mean look at the big scary ass thing (well ain't that scary in game but imagine irl)
@Fxt_Ryan
@Fxt_Ryan 5 жыл бұрын
Cant wait for alola
@coupexo8442
@coupexo8442 5 жыл бұрын
Great vid hommie. Keep up the good work 🤙🏽
@wernt0
@wernt0 5 жыл бұрын
When Zinnia talks about how the meteor could be teleported into a universe that couldn't stop it, what if there's a universe where she didn't destroy the device to teleport it and so it appeared in the one we're in and we weren't able to do anything with it?
@jasonleemhuis4128
@jasonleemhuis4128 5 жыл бұрын
Its 3 am Im posed to wake up in 3 hrs for work *what the fuck why am i revisiting my childhood*
@gglover95
@gglover95 5 жыл бұрын
The ultimate weapon only got fired in the mega universe, how do you explain deoxys in the advanced/connected universe?
@le.banana
@le.banana 5 жыл бұрын
Yay its officially a series yes I'm so happy right now
@retroplasm1444
@retroplasm1444 5 жыл бұрын
The first theory is good and all, but what about the other universe where the ultimate weapon did not activate?
@samdriborr
@samdriborr 4 жыл бұрын
I really like the idea that New Mauville is a bunker. We know that the events of Hoenn coincide with the events of Kanto. We've seen evidence that the events of Kanto happen decades after a major war. It is assumed (with this mindset) that the protagonists in Kanto and Hoenn are part of the generation(s) after that never experienced the war first-hand. Watson and Devon could be part of the generation that was involved in the war, which is why they spent the rest of their lives bringing innovation to the people (to make up for what they did in the war).
@jakeriese4862
@jakeriese4862 5 жыл бұрын
I just thought as Spiritomb as It's own pokemon.
@mutes1123
@mutes1123 5 жыл бұрын
But what about the time line where the ultimate weapon was never fired? Deoxs is in the games where mega evolution was never discovered? Theory sounds flakey
@TheDeepThinker-sq3iy
@TheDeepThinker-sq3iy 5 жыл бұрын
although he was in those games, this theory still might work though. deoxys was always obtainable only through special event's. and it was always found on some uncharted island somewhere.... where am going with this is, there was ANOTHER timeline very closely similar to oras..... but there was a different outcome in THAT particular version of oras... and that is. . . they actually wen't through with the plan that zinnia thwarted in OUR version of oras. they opened up the gate way to that parallel dimension to ditch the meteor, thinking that it was gonna destroy all of hoen unless they did that. but in reality.... there was never any danger of that happening. am not exactly sure... but the reason the meteor was none lethal was because of deoxys itself. from space observation, it LOOKED like it was gonna do that, not knowing that deoxys was within. after it crashed in that other dimension, deoxys basically slowed the fall where it landed harmlessly on an uncharted island somewhere close to hoen(or maybe.... that island WAS the meteor?)..... now I know this doesn't explain everything.... such as the pokedex entry having knowledge that some laser from space hit it and it turned into deoxys.... but on account that there has ALWAYS been problems with dex entries that has resulted in the memes of professor oak being a time lord.... well..... I guess that means hes a dimension hopping god as well. . . . . (lmao)
@liamhill6487
@liamhill6487 5 жыл бұрын
TheDeepThinker 2000 you're trying to hard to believe a lie
@TheDeepThinker-sq3iy
@TheDeepThinker-sq3iy 5 жыл бұрын
@@liamhill6487 a stretch of logic is a stretch of logic.... either way, the whole multi verse thing was gamefreaks idea, not mine. my personal take on it was taken from a Canonical prospective. all I was trying to suggest is that deoxy's in hoen, from the gba era, could still potentially fit in with oras time line(cuz remember, multi verse shenanigans are involved Now). However.... Yes, I do acknowledge that I could be wrong about that. its also good to keep in mind that game freak DOES have a bit of a history of planning things, WAY ahead of schedule, so there's that too. .
@lizarrrrrd795
@lizarrrrrd795 5 жыл бұрын
Sea Mauville and New Mauville are Pokémon’s version of The Rainbow Factory. Killing Pokémon to get infinity energy, and killing ponies to turn their blood into rainbows. 🎶“In the sea of Mauville, where fears and horrors come true. In the sea of Mauville, where not a single soul gets through.”🎶
@Spinoguy16
@Spinoguy16 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting theories
@leah5595
@leah5595 5 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for sinnoh! Also gave your music a listen and it's fantastic!
@ClefairyFairySnowflake
@ClefairyFairySnowflake 5 жыл бұрын
I love all of the theories in this video! I hope that more theories will come our way! I love to hear about them! Have an awesome day!!!
@supersaiyansalamence
@supersaiyansalamence 5 жыл бұрын
There’s a flaw in the multiple timeline one, if I remember correctly, the weapon you claim created Deoxy’s is also responsible for Mega Stones. So if there were no Mega Stones then that would mean the weapon was never fired, yet Deoxys exists in both timelines.
@hardstyle4life13
@hardstyle4life13 5 жыл бұрын
I have missed your videos ! Can’t wait to see more !
@kungfuzing1018
@kungfuzing1018 5 жыл бұрын
Although the Deoxys theory is interesting, I'd have to say it's false, as Deoxys has been seen in games without Mega Evolution, and as I understand it the thing that caused Mega Evolution to be a thing WAS the Ultimate Weapon being fired off, that being the key point distinguishing whether a game has Mega Evolution or not.
@gadoliumnitrogen7149
@gadoliumnitrogen7149 5 жыл бұрын
well maybe in the games that had no mega evolutions did involve AZ use the laser but it failed to peform whatever task it was (i forgot something to do with that floette) or didn't hit back to earth however it still hit Deoxys
@aikou2886
@aikou2886 5 жыл бұрын
The mega story is a bit weird, in one set of games (X/Y) Lucario was the first mega and the megas somehow had a relation with a mass destruction weapon. In another set (ORAS) the first mega was Rayquza, who doesn't even need a mega stone and (as far as I remember) doesn't seem to have any relation with such weapon whatsoever.
@codyturco2079
@codyturco2079 5 жыл бұрын
Well here’s a theory maybe deoxys = mega pokerus
@jvbon646
@jvbon646 5 жыл бұрын
@@aikou2886 That's because Rayquaza already had a shitload of energy inside of it (thanks to a healthy diet of pure Energy-filled Meteors) All of those small amounts of energy stored together "added up to 1 Mega Stone". The whole city Praying for Ray-Quay-Quay's help funtioned like "the bond with the Trainer" Those 2 conditions together were almost the same as those required for Mega-Evo to occur. Conclusion-Never change the Ingredients or you'll end up with a shit so Broken is even Broken in the Tier made for the Broken
@aikou2886
@aikou2886 5 жыл бұрын
@@jvbon646 I agree, maybe they missed the day in which "how not to screw a power balance" was covered in class lol.
@thehumancomedy3891
@thehumancomedy3891 5 жыл бұрын
Hope you had a good Christmas as well bro
@indigopines
@indigopines 4 жыл бұрын
8:33 WHOA whoa whoa whoa, spiritomb is an unlikely pokemon itself, but it being (essentially) MAN-MADE?! Now THAT'S a theory I wanna see.
@mcwoomy
@mcwoomy 4 жыл бұрын
Theory deoxys is a car yes this is legit
@danielcarcano8246
@danielcarcano8246 5 жыл бұрын
Pkrs was introduced in the 3rd gen too was it not? Adding to the deoxys theory
@cesarferreira386
@cesarferreira386 5 жыл бұрын
Welcome back hoopsandhiphop I hope you had a great holiday season 👍
@TheLadyLiddell
@TheLadyLiddell 5 жыл бұрын
Sea Mauville's slogans are very aperture science-esc
@tharunranglall8463
@tharunranglall8463 5 жыл бұрын
As deoxys is the DNA pokemon, i think deoxys can merge with other pokemon DNA
@zinzolin14
@zinzolin14 5 жыл бұрын
Spiritomb in Sea Mayville makes so much sense now. Yeeesh...
@KitFoxboy
@KitFoxboy 5 жыл бұрын
I really like your videos. Do you mind if I ask you why you chose Hoops and Hip Hop as a name for a PokeTuber channel? Are they just other interests of yours?
@Nejifangal1
@Nejifangal1 5 жыл бұрын
This was a very interesting video!! Keep up the great work!! :D
@LeahLovesNature
@LeahLovesNature 5 жыл бұрын
There are some interesting ideas here, and it's nice that they all came from different sources! Personally I would have put #4 at #1, since I feel like that one has the biggest impact on the series. Also, #3 makes a lot of sense, but it's way scarier than anything I would expect from a Pokemon game.
@duckduckflamingo8089
@duckduckflamingo8089 5 жыл бұрын
So close to a million keep going
@jekie9865
@jekie9865 5 жыл бұрын
I missed you :3
@johnwayne9000
@johnwayne9000 4 жыл бұрын
Iirc it was said the timelines split due to the ultimate weapon firing , the one where it did is the mega timeline
@TheDeepThinker-sq3iy
@TheDeepThinker-sq3iy 5 жыл бұрын
flygon NEVER knew fly by lvl up.... the only one besides salamence that I can think of is rayquaza.... rayquaza was also tied to the draconids. why wasn't he suggested?
@gerardoareyesm
@gerardoareyesm 4 жыл бұрын
flygon when is trapinch can learn dig , then if u got a flygon and salamance just like that u can send free the regis and u got a flygon and salamance in the npc´s well the draconids, i think that reffers that
@GeddyLeeBell
@GeddyLeeBell 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry I just can't resist... FIRE THE "LASER"
@gustavju4686
@gustavju4686 5 жыл бұрын
I think the ones who sealed the Regis are the people who founded Pacifidlog who I theorize are related the founders of Seafolk Village. Interestingly, the Dragon Ascent tutor in the Alolan games is in said town...
@jtorr4987
@jtorr4987 4 жыл бұрын
The Deoxys one is very probable except for the fact that if it was made from firing the weapon, then Deoxys would only exist in the mega universe. This means that he would exist in the X&Y/ORAS and beyond games, BUT Deoxys wouldn’t exist in RSE and FireRed/LeafGreen because in the non mega universe the weapon was never fired. :/
@KaiCyreus
@KaiCyreus 5 жыл бұрын
Here's one that I'm sure you wouldn't have been aware before making this video、because it's very recent、it's the joint theories that Ruin Maniac and Hybrid Hero worked on regarding Bill、Devon、and Archie and Maxie. Would definitely recommend checking it out.
@tabletaussendienst2721
@tabletaussendienst2721 5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@BerriesSan
@BerriesSan 5 жыл бұрын
I tagged you for wants to Battle!
@Thomas-fc2ym
@Thomas-fc2ym 5 жыл бұрын
No credit to munchingorange for game footage?
@animaniacjokerman95
@animaniacjokerman95 5 жыл бұрын
Good Stuff Hoops!
@guillaumehomier5038
@guillaumehomier5038 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing theorie about the Regis trio!!! 😮
@cossakrose
@cossakrose 4 жыл бұрын
I mean... The second theory basically disproves the first. If there are two timelines, one where the ultimate weapon caused mega-e & the one where that never happened, then Deoxys would only exist in the one with the weapon. But because Deoxys exists in both, and is identical in both, then it is not possible for the weapon to have been the mutating laser since that event didn't happen in both timelines.
@colddripgaming
@colddripgaming 4 жыл бұрын
The Mauville theory is way closer to a conspiracy theory. The reasons given are flimsy at best.
@covershopkid
@covershopkid 5 жыл бұрын
Not only was the new mauville city theory so far fetched that it was bothersome, but you repeated the theory at least four different times in the span of maybe three minutes. Maybe check your scripts next time?
@Thomas-fc2ym
@Thomas-fc2ym 5 жыл бұрын
@@ethan7027 uno reverse card, NO U
@nickdentoom1173
@nickdentoom1173 5 жыл бұрын
Their is a problem with the Pokerus theory: Deoxys is permanent, while Pokerus is not. If they are the same thing, Deoxys also cannot be permanent.
@vivimannequin
@vivimannequin 5 жыл бұрын
Deoxys is also mutated
@ashtonpitcher3835
@ashtonpitcher3835 4 жыл бұрын
I actually have my own theory about Deoxys, but it's based on nothing and just sounds cool
@calennordstrom6875
@calennordstrom6875 4 жыл бұрын
Playing Alpha Sapphire, one time i was tradeda lvl. 100 shiny regirock. Thank you to whoever sent that!
@TheNiceness
@TheNiceness 3 жыл бұрын
If they had sent Deoxys to another dimension then that dimension might have had two Deoxys? And when will they tie together the ultimate weapon with all other stories?
@wapson2176
@wapson2176 4 жыл бұрын
Also the New Mauville theory has a huge hole, Spiritomb is made up by EVIL spirits and it’s shown that no pokemon, with the exception of Malamar, is inherently evil. My theory is going off one of the slogans “always worship and praise the founder” sounds very cult like. There could’ve been a huge accident, or like one of real life cults where the cult leader commits mass murder by having his followers forced to commit suicide in order to “ascend.” This is really dark but at the end of the day we’ve seen deoxys getting stabbed in the chest and an arbok cut in half in the manga
@wapson2176
@wapson2176 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that these workers were also forced to work their ass off with no expected breaks and on top of their jobs being extremely stressful and dangerous could’ve meant an accident occurred and 108 vengeful spirits came together to form spiritomb trying to find their former employer to do who knows what.
@wapson2176
@wapson2176 4 жыл бұрын
Seeing the slogans, you could tell a lot of abuse was prevalent in the work force, worship, life endangerment, giving up your sanity, working all day and with no time off or vacation, the fact you HAVE to obey your superiors could be taken a lot of ways. People could’ve been taken advantage of, they could’ve been physically abused, sexually abused, emotionally abused. All of this could lead to a very, very vengeful and murderous spiritomb.
@wapson2176
@wapson2176 4 жыл бұрын
Spiritomb could also be the superiors, every supervisor to manager had power over their workers and judging by their rules they were definitely not turning into a blissey in the after life.
@wapson2176
@wapson2176 4 жыл бұрын
It’s just so heartbreaking and gut wrenching how these workers were treated, and this is a fictional game aimed mostly at 10 year old kids with no concept of work regulations and what’s basically cult worship
@hikaru-live
@hikaru-live 5 жыл бұрын
The Mega/Non-Mega split is further confirmed by ORAS Looker and Gen. VII games: (SuMo and ORAS spoiler alert) ORAS is when Looker entered the beginning of Mega Timeline from the non-Mega timeline after BW2 through an ultra wormhole. The same thing also happened Anabel in Emerald's timeline. Both of which shows the same symptom of unintentionally crossing the Ultra Wormhole: amnesia.
@rosadiamonds2204
@rosadiamonds2204 5 жыл бұрын
Deoxys being made by the ultimate weapon falls apart when you consider the original GBA games were in a universe where the weapon was never activated(hence no megas).
@catriamflockentanz
@catriamflockentanz 5 жыл бұрын
6:48 That tidbit doesn't quite add up though. Devon and Mauville were rival companies fighting for dominance of the Hoenn market. So Mr. Trumm wouldn't have had any part of a Mauville Project for obvious reasons.
@marcwhite7431
@marcwhite7431 5 жыл бұрын
Mr Trumm? Sounds more like Mr Trump to me😄.
@catriamflockentanz
@catriamflockentanz 5 жыл бұрын
@@marcwhite7431 Wait. Oh I'm an idiot of course it's Mr. Stone. I forgot that Hoenn Champion "Troy Trumm" from "my" german version is called "Steven Stone" in the english version, so that makes his father, head of the Devon Corp., Mr. Stone. My bad. ^^'
@Kahtisemo
@Kahtisemo 5 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old comment but actually there's hints that they were. Mauville eventually got exposed and went bankrupt and all their projects shut down, but Devon only became a big company afterward. If I remember right you find an old man in Rustboro who says back when he worked, Devon was just a little company and I think a display in the building says they got their start in pharmaceuticals (like potions and stuff I guess). Then in the remains of Sea Mauville you can find old vials and worn out advertising for Devon products. So even if they didn't work together directly, it seems either the Devon founder or the current President Stone (Trumm?) knew enough about the Mauville's business to take up their place as a lead in research and technology for Hoenn.
@catriamflockentanz
@catriamflockentanz 5 жыл бұрын
@@Kahtisemo Oh really? Yet another gaping difference between the game's and the (main) manga's canon. I just brought that up due to a comment, of guess which corporate president in the OmegaRuby & AlphaSapphire volumes, were he plain out stated that Devon and Mauville were rivaling companies. And there is nothing wrong in answering an old comment. At least as long as you've something meaningful to add. ;) And this thankfully was.
@Kahtisemo
@Kahtisemo 5 жыл бұрын
@@catriamflockentanz that makes sense. I haven't read the manga myself but I've seen a lot of stuff from it that shows just how different the manga storyline is from the games.
@themaskedblueknight7490
@themaskedblueknight7490 5 жыл бұрын
Happy New Years!
@charl_lee
@charl_lee 5 жыл бұрын
Just saw this vid title, saw your channel name, and was immediately confused lol
@andydocherty9992
@andydocherty9992 5 жыл бұрын
Does anyone agree that the ultimate weapon looks like Celasteela?
@KisiroKitsune
@KisiroKitsune 3 жыл бұрын
"DURRR the Mega timeline theory is all but confirmed" No it isn't. It's people reading way too into a throwaway line by Zinnia. We also know what New Mauville and Sea Mauville were supposed to be, urban development, and saying otherwise is just blatantly ignoring facts presented in the game.
@marcwhite7431
@marcwhite7431 5 жыл бұрын
What about the core that deoxys has? Doesn't it remind everyone about the sun dile (can't spell dile right)? The colors are the same. Plus, Diancie (the only mythical with mega evolution) shares the same color. If anyone wants to get a better idea of my thoughts, please reply.
@150belowzero
@150belowzero 5 жыл бұрын
The word you were looking for is "sun dial" :)
@TheOldSchoolDays
@TheOldSchoolDays 5 жыл бұрын
where did you get that timeline at 4:26? google image? or did you hand made it yourself?
@guillaumehomier5038
@guillaumehomier5038 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe Kalos from AZ's time was in war against the Hoenn region and that's why Hoenn peoples from ORAS time period fear the ultimate weapon so they created the New Mauville bunker hoping to be protected if someone eventually try to recreat the ultimate weapon (Lysandre).
@user-vg5lv2rm6u
@user-vg5lv2rm6u 5 жыл бұрын
I dont know if you know that but spiritomb is gen 4 sinnoh
@serenepogi
@serenepogi 5 жыл бұрын
What's the song at 14:29? Its so refreshing to hear.
@nikopogo1
@nikopogo1 5 жыл бұрын
This video reminded of a question that ive asked mylsef a couple of times now:SPOILERS FOR THE EMERALD CHAPTER OF POKEMON ADVENTURES AHEAD.What is Guile Hideout's armor and sword made of to be capable of slowing down time?
@jameszumwalt7338
@jameszumwalt7338 4 жыл бұрын
If Don't bring your Pokemon to work means that they might get killed, then now I understand why we can't bring kids to work in our world....
@KevinEontrainer381
@KevinEontrainer381 5 жыл бұрын
I have only one question though... What the actual heck is an Ultra Space Wilds and where is it? It can't be on earth because it says you've traveled God knows how many light years to get there. So what is it then? An alien planet that happens to have Pokemon there? Is it an alternate universe? Whey are there legendary Pokemon there? Why can you find shiny Pokemon more easily the further you went? Is it true that Shinies are actually a Pokemon from the alternate universe that accidentally fell through the ultra wormhole, and that's why they're so rare?
@kitkat7074
@kitkat7074 5 жыл бұрын
My understanding is it's an area in deep space that houses an infinite amount of portals to alternate universes. It's not that it takes many light years to get to the alternate universes, just the portals to them.
@publicdomainfilmdatabase2538
@publicdomainfilmdatabase2538 5 жыл бұрын
You clearly watched Dr. Lava's videos about Pokemon cut content and are regurgitating them while pretending not to. You even mispronounce Junichi Masuda's name in the exact same way he does in his videos. You two both need to figure out how to say that guy's name.
@himarik4609
@himarik4609 5 жыл бұрын
My Theory: Hoops is the son of Sheamus
@supermateo8068
@supermateo8068 5 жыл бұрын
I actually tougth about a theory that the starter trio of hoenn is actually related to the weather trio of hoenn
@sebastiancalvo7568
@sebastiancalvo7568 5 жыл бұрын
Multiple timelines? I came for Pokemon, not Zelda xD
@mckenziedewese1902
@mckenziedewese1902 5 жыл бұрын
not bringing your pokemon to work seems like a stretch, as many jobs probably wouldnt allow it. However, I can see this theory working regardless
@caydenbong4996
@caydenbong4996 4 жыл бұрын
i'm talking about the deoxys theory
@letycovarrubias9887
@letycovarrubias9887 5 жыл бұрын
great video
@Abi3
@Abi3 5 жыл бұрын
Makes sense
@TenkaichiBudokaiAnnouncer
@TenkaichiBudokaiAnnouncer 5 жыл бұрын
Pikachu's on again off again g ok d strength could be a rare case of pokerus that goes away for a while. Like certain Cancer, or Herpes
@le.banana
@le.banana 5 жыл бұрын
Wait wait wait wait....... the closed ultimate weapon is basiclly that one UB from sun and moon
@marcwhite7431
@marcwhite7431 5 жыл бұрын
Sembreon are you talking about Celesteela?
@le.banana
@le.banana 5 жыл бұрын
@@marcwhite7431 yes
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