5 of the Most overrated Japanese Classic Motorcycles

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bikerdood1100

bikerdood1100

Күн бұрын

This time we take a look at some machines that have for many years have been heaped in praise and while being truly excellent are they really head and shoulders above the rest or are there alternatives that could offer the same or perhaps even more for a smaller outlay ?

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@evolvnyc
@evolvnyc 2 ай бұрын
Had a 550 Four for a few years. The bike just purrs and never needed anything but love and adoration. Honda is legendary…
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Nice bikes
@Banditmanuk
@Banditmanuk 2 ай бұрын
79 I had an unrestricted FS1E. Didn’t know at the time that it would turn into a collectors item. Just in my short ownership, my machine had several seizures and a rebore. It did little to prepare me for the insanity of the RD250LC that followed at 17. It's very easy to remember these old bikes through rose tinted glasses.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Which is why I made the video really
@simonsadler9360
@simonsadler9360 2 ай бұрын
In Spain many women deliver mail on Eco Chinese scooters , have one here kick or electric start ,v cheap has sticking throttle cable !
@1tonyboat
@1tonyboat 2 ай бұрын
Back in 1972/3 i sold my Suzuki 250cc Super Six , and purchased a new Suzuki T500R , in candy lavender and white at a price of £499 from a dealer near Boston in Lincolshire ,being based at RAF CONINGSBY there were a few lad`s there with some of the bikes shown here ....Those were the days .....
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Nice
@martynflynn8368
@martynflynn8368 2 ай бұрын
If you are saying that the cb750 four is an "over rated" bike, it is obvious you have never owned one. Lets not forget the time of its research and development, the mid 60's, it was of it's time and served its purpose massively. During the r+d period it was redlined for 20 hours non stop on a test bed with no blow up. The model went on to have a very good shelf life for the time and its testament to its greatly deserved "classic" status is the fact that it is one of the classics that always commands and gets a high price. One of the greatest bikes ever built. Oh and the Z1 is over rated now??? really???
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Just watch the video and pay attention rather than listen to you own bias Also note the price of the Z1 in the video Seriously
@Roger_Ramjet
@Roger_Ramjet 13 күн бұрын
Right on!
@nigelbews3335
@nigelbews3335 2 ай бұрын
That 750 Honda is definitely not overrated my dear!
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Do try and understand the context of the video It doesn’t mean bad I do make this abundantly clear Abundantly
@clangerbasher
@clangerbasher 2 ай бұрын
It's the colours of the 70s that stand out for me. The pink of that Suzuki or the yellow of the FS1E. Lovely.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
The pink is a bit much Definitely vibrant is the word
@clangerbasher
@clangerbasher 2 ай бұрын
@@bikerdood1100 Imagine it in the brown and beige world of the 70's. I wonder are the modern paints used in restoration perhaps a little too bright? They might be the right colour. But the depth of finish and application might be just a little too good.
@adotintheshark4848
@adotintheshark4848 2 ай бұрын
I had two magenta Suzuki 750s, one with expansion chambers and a shaved head. That thing was loud and fast!
@clangerbasher
@clangerbasher 2 ай бұрын
@@adotintheshark4848 Wonderful!
@adotintheshark4848
@adotintheshark4848 2 ай бұрын
@@bikerdood1100 they also offered a chartruese/green model that year (72), not nearly as "loud".
@thomaslubben8559
@thomaslubben8559 2 ай бұрын
You are spot on about the Suzy GS750/1000 being a better alternative. It was a sleeper, and very solid. It had handling way ahead of its time. Any of the 70s and early 80s Kawasakis had near- dangerous handling. 2 of my mates died in mild cornering wobbles when they hit a bump. The Suzy would not kill you like that.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Well if not better certainly cheaper for some reason and indeed better handling
@daigriffiths399
@daigriffiths399 2 ай бұрын
The Suzukis were good engines and good frames, but they were also a bonfire looking for somewhere to happen. The electrical system design was a complete piece of sht, prone to burning out alternators, rectifiers and regulators. I know. I spent a lot of time either fixing the results of the incipient bonfire or providing a fix that stopped it from happening. At my last count waybackwhen I'd done eighteen 550s, 750s and 1000s. Suzuki finally fixed the problem with the introduction of the 1100 engine.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
I would not say the entire electrical system in all fairness But the do use very cheap regulator rectifiers no doubt about that, alternators could be better too on some bikes
@Don-lw4cb
@Don-lw4cb 2 ай бұрын
Yes the GS 750 was a cracker and still a great bike today.
@user-yk5kg7kd4r
@user-yk5kg7kd4r 2 ай бұрын
@@daigriffiths399 A honda RR bolts onto the suzuki and is an easy wiring upgrade. That solves the only problem the GS had. The Honda RR is about 20 dollars on the 'Bay
@robertwatson39
@robertwatson39 2 ай бұрын
Back in 1978 I got into a race with two 750/4’s. I was surprised that my 1975 Norton Commander 850 took care of both bikes. The Suzuki you showed was called the water bottle here in Australia. I built from the ground up a 650 Yam Special. I bought a burnt out wreck for $25 in 1977. It was a 76 model and when I’d finished building it up it cost me $300 ( which was a lot of money back then. Some said it was a Japanese BSA ( which I disputed lol ). I ended up selling it in 1980 for $1,200. That bike was and is quicker than the modern day Yamaha 650’s. I rode a Z1 once and yes I felt like a sail when she got up and going. Fortunately you could buy bikini fairings for the bike. Oh and it scare the crap out of me because the single front disc couldn’t really pull you up once she lifted her skirt. As per usual I do/did enjoy your videos.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Interesting comment
@user-dd5vn2dn7g
@user-dd5vn2dn7g 2 ай бұрын
In '75, my brother and I bought new Hondas. I chose a 750, my brother a 550. His was nothing but trouble; the cam ran in the aluminum top cover, no bushings or bearings. The dealer finally installed a top cover from a CB 500 Four, which fixed the problem. A factory fix was implemented starting with the 1978 models.
@brucedale4465
@brucedale4465 2 ай бұрын
The Suzuki engine you spoke about was called a water Buffalo!
@chrissmith2114
@chrissmith2114 2 ай бұрын
Seem to remember the 3 cylinder Suzuki 2 stroke called 'the Kettle' in UK, The Original Honda CB750 was more of a tourer than a sports bike to be fair and sold in large number in USA where they loved the fact it started when required, did not cover your garage floor with oil and got you back home... I soon found with Japanese bikes you did not need to carry a toolkit..
@volt8684
@volt8684 2 ай бұрын
Your 60bhp 115 mph norton took care of a 70 bhp 124 mph cb750 did it. Were the Hondas brakes. Bindings. I rode both and the norton wasn’t in the same league
@tomtaylor6163
@tomtaylor6163 2 ай бұрын
I think the Suzuki GS1000 is the real deal. I bought a running 78 last year in Austin , Texas for $900 with a bunch of extra parts that I sold for more than that. So I basically got a free bone stock bike with nice original mufflers. I love these bikes s they re really comfy and outperform the KZ models . The Seat may be one of the best I’ve ever sat on for a long trip. These bikes never got the respect they deserved on the street but they kicked but on the track
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Certainly turned better than the Kawasaki
@PeteBurns-xv2fz
@PeteBurns-xv2fz 2 ай бұрын
Well said buddy, couldnt agree more, gs1000 a fantastic and very under rated bike...$900 !!!.... you lucky b•stard !! 😁....kawasakis are the most overated bikes in history, so nice to look at...but appalling handling tank slappers ✌🍻
@zman5727
@zman5727 2 ай бұрын
@@PeteBurns-xv2fz Sometimes when you are late to the party, nobody notices you, nobody cares.
@PeteBurns-xv2fz
@PeteBurns-xv2fz 2 ай бұрын
Oh..id better go and pay 20.000 quid for a z1 then just so i get noticed, i'll wear a t-shirt with 'i love zeds' on the front so everyone knows im a real man, i can alternate between wearing the 'zed' t-shirt and the i love VW t25s' t-shirt i wear to get noticed at other obsessed geek meets 😂🤣😂🤣.....maybe then...someone will care...and luv me 😂🤣😂🤣.....i think i'll re-mortgage my house tommorow, ive just seen a kwaka h2 for sale...only 25.000 quid, oh...hang on, for 4500 quid i can buy a mint rd350 that'll piss all over that overated overpriced smoker !!!... no matter WHAT anybody says...kawasakis are THE most overated OVER PRICED bikes on earth.....love em all you want, ive NOTHING against them but the above...
@user-yk5kg7kd4r
@user-yk5kg7kd4r 2 ай бұрын
A little known fact is Kawasaki and Suzuki collaborated on the head design of the 4 cylinder bikes. They even use the same size shims in the buckets. Suzuki was abandoning the 2 stroke and the rotary and needed a hail mary engine. They also lost their shirt on the water buffalo. Suzuki made scores of heads to come up with the twin swirl effect in the combustion chamber that was the ticket. The 4V engine was the precursor to modern superbike engines.
@yamark02
@yamark02 2 ай бұрын
Anyone remember the small 'Used bike mags?' Real reviews from owners of bikes. It was noticeable how many Japanese bikes, although reliable, seemed to wear out quickly. There was a article many years back, where it said, Honda used very poor quality alloy.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Well it’s because by then we were starting towards todays throw away society
@barnbersonol
@barnbersonol 2 ай бұрын
Those mags were full of bx. 250 Superdream "90 mph" Imagine my disappointment when I bought one!
@yamark02
@yamark02 2 ай бұрын
@@barnbersonol On the clock, downhill with a following wind. Yes had one. As before, they were day to day reliable but longevity poor.
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 2 ай бұрын
​@@barnbersonolmade us all want a VT250F
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Had a VT250 for a few years It was very flat and you really needed to keep it revving Never saw 100mph however It was quite a nice bike to ride but it often amuses me know to think that it claimed similar hp to my BSA but really not the same thing at all There’s 35hp and then there’s 35hp and a stack of torque The Honda was a good bike but not exactly one to get passionate about
@SirBeauJangles
@SirBeauJangles 2 ай бұрын
First CB750 I saw (the gold/ orange one) was in Glasgow in the early weeks of its release. Was ridden by an old guy with a pipe in his mouth, a dispatch riders coat and a pudding basin helmet and a WW2 gas mask shoulder bag that was commonly used to take your “piece” to work. (Piece = lunch sandwiches). High handlebar screen too. Looked so incongruous I wondered if it was a put up job to get people double taking the bike to boost sales. The dealer there then was Rattrays, they used to make a famous built to fit bicycle called the Flying Scot.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
A strange mixture of historical eras that Honda rider😂
@user-nt1xz6qn8x
@user-nt1xz6qn8x 2 ай бұрын
I had a gold one, great bike. Got an old Yamaha XJ 900f now.
@swamppifi6186
@swamppifi6186 2 ай бұрын
Honda CB750 had issues with the oil ways in the cam block getting clogged and seizing the cam , a mate brought one that had sat for three years, and he didn't follow my advice to change the oil. It ended with half the cam seized and snapped, leaving the inlet value open while he was riding and burnt the bike to the ground..... also K5 and later has an extra bolt added around the cam chain tunnel.....
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Oh Honda and those top ends
@user-dd5vn2dn7g
@user-dd5vn2dn7g 2 ай бұрын
Put 100,000 miles on my '75 Honda 750 K5 (purchased new) without any problems. 3000 mile oil and filter changes, and a Lockhart oil cooler helped things along.
@Maxim0W0lf
@Maxim0W0lf 2 ай бұрын
I had a CB750 F2 SOHC 2018-2020, after an initial test ride and then months of tarting up the frame and paintwork I was met with this same problem, age of the oil wasn't the issue but a small chunk of gasket material had worked free and clogged the oil jet....my dad who had ran a K0 for many thousands of miles without fault in the 70's was speechless after having sung their praises for so long...killed my interest in owning another classic machine!
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Well that’s the problem with Japanese for you Great when new, complicated and nasty when old. We have old and new machines and find old Brit bikes simple by comparison
@adotintheshark4848
@adotintheshark4848 2 ай бұрын
if you never changed the oil. And the 750A automatic was terrible for that. Keep the oil clean however and you'll have no problem. I owned five of those and repaired many others. They are one of the best bikes ever made.
@rachelthompson9324
@rachelthompson9324 2 ай бұрын
I had several Honda CB 750s and I loved them. I had a Z1 900, as well. My fav was a 1980 Yamaha SX 650 of all the bikes I had
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Interesting how the smaller bike is your favourite A great machine is often more than the sum of its parts and often less is more
@scottmcburney8938
@scottmcburney8938 2 ай бұрын
Me and a bunch of my friends had 70's Honda inline fours with 4/1 pipes we flogged them mercilessly, lubed the chain, changed the oil, repeat. A friend with British twin, and the puddle underneath, seemed like he was in the shop about half the summer
@scottmcburney8938
@scottmcburney8938 2 ай бұрын
Small sample size admitedly
@rachelthompson9324
@rachelthompson9324 2 ай бұрын
@@scottmcburney8938 I never had a problem with the Honda 750s. Seemed impossible to break them. Of all the two strokes I had the most reliable was the Suz T-500 even after extreme mods. I have to say that later when I had a Suz 750 4 stroke it was better than the Honda 750 in every way. My brother had the Honda 750 night hawk in the 80s and my 82 Suz out handled it.
@scottmcburney8938
@scottmcburney8938 2 ай бұрын
@@rachelthompson9324 Those old SOHC Honda's weren't performance bikes, they were just solid fun reliable transportation. The 80's sport bikes were yet to come, we were kids then, just out or finishing high school. My friends had 400/4 super sports, older cb 750's, I had a 500/4. The Yamaha 2 strokes were the fastest thing in the mountains, the R5 or Rd400's. Good times, I'm 64 and still riding for now.
@flightforensics4523
@flightforensics4523 2 ай бұрын
Can't believe I came across a video that included the FS-1. I was just given one. Brand new in the crate. It has Auto Lube.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Blimey
@jimstartup2729
@jimstartup2729 2 ай бұрын
Just given one!.. you either have some top friends or are one lucky fella . Collectors items landing in your lap in the box is pretty unreal. Congratulations!
@yamark02
@yamark02 2 ай бұрын
The Hondas weren't has robust as history portrays. I had a CB 400 Four, it needed major work by 20,000 miles. I bought a CB 500 Four from a dealer, but it never ran right, they ended up completely rebuilding the engine. Later I had a Suzuki GS750. Superb. Handled great with Ace bars on, engine was bulletproof. I bought a CB 750 Four F2 from a well known dealer (Padgetts), They wouldn't bring it out to let me hear it running, stating it would mean moving a lot of stock, but it wouldn't be in the showroom if not right. Bought it (13,000 miles), 1/4 down road it broke down. Sounded like a, bag of nails. After a few attempts at putting it right they eventually rebuilt the engine. Though it was never right. Pxed it for a car. The Yamaha XS650, always regretted not buying a 650B model. But didn't know much about them, so bought the 400 Four. In hindsight should have bought the Yam.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Well Hondas do like to destroy the odd cam train that’s for sure
@CaptHollister
@CaptHollister 2 ай бұрын
Counterpoint: in 1979 I bought my first bike, a 1976 CB400F. It's 2024 and I still own it. Never let me down, not even in those early years when I was an enthusiastic, but inexperienced and ham-fisted home mechanic. Funnily enough, before buying the Honda I went to see an XS650. I didn't buy it when it turned out to have low compression on one cylinder...
@CaptHollister
@CaptHollister 2 ай бұрын
@@bikerdood1100 The manual cam chain adjuster often gets neglected.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
My old CX had an allegedly automatic cam adjuster and it died after 35,000miles
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
As interesting counter point I ride a large Guzzi Have owned it for many years and many rides across Europe It’s big, very comfortable two up, handles and stops very well and has shaft drive I also own a modern Honda Would I give my Guzzi up for a cb400f or an XS I’ve never been that drunk I’m a non drinker incidentally
@Free_Ranger_CT110
@Free_Ranger_CT110 2 ай бұрын
I owned a FS1/E DX but have to agree they are way over priced. The common phrase used by bike mag road testers of the 70's Japanese bikes was 'hinged in the middle' to describe the wallowing handling. You are right, the GS750 is an underrated machine, I remember being flat out on my T140V Bonnie as my mate over took me on his GS750 he changed gear. I ended up with a GS750 soon after...
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
The GS was really the first competent handling bike from Japan For me their best 750 of the 70s
@buxvan
@buxvan 2 ай бұрын
I had a Honda CB750 F1 in the early 2,000's. In that pale yellow. Bought it from ebay complete minus carbs for £350! Some of the people on the forums were right up their backsides. I told them I used Wilko 20/50 oil & they went mad ! Also I don't understand the Sandgate owners who think they are a different breed of owner. Got rid of it as I realized I liked my XT 500 more (which l still have & thrash)
@buxvan
@buxvan 2 ай бұрын
Sandcast, (stupid auto correct)
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
As for oil The stuff they put in lawnmowers is better than what they had in the 60s The secret is how often you change the oil not how good it is
@marcbrasse747
@marcbrasse747 2 ай бұрын
That’s the spirit! 😁
@adotintheshark4848
@adotintheshark4848 2 ай бұрын
@@buxvan Sand cast only refers to the early 69s or the first few bikes that were made, due to the way the engine cases were formed. Their rarity makes them valuable, not because they are any better.
@BRAD.-
@BRAD.- 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the chuckle, Buxvan, Whether you were genuine or winding up those pompous anoraks, I applaud your mischievous manner & humour. Those originality box-tickers are entitled to their pontificating (there is room for them amongst us all), but to those whom criticise & bemoan owners later updates & improvements, however, those who ride (or have ridden in the past), understand the reason for braided hoses & lines, digital ignition for points, better pads, shoes & rubber hoops, halogen bulbs; their ignorance of accepting sensible, even respectful improvements to our older classics makes their "Originality" argument somewhat foolish... ... especially for an owner who wishes to continue riding his beloved classic for many more miles each year & not only from their transport van/trailer to the show stand. Often these critics are so beligerent, they fail to realise how foolish their comments can sound when they actially speak with a fellow classic enthusiast. & stuff those who bemoan my GSX1100S full Yoshimura pipe. There are limits of bad tast IMHO, but it is individual choice as to me, the chrome toast rack engine block covers (especially on 70's Zeds) bring a definite grimace, much the same as whitening the teeth of The Mona Lisa. Its all for enjoyment & the owner reserves his right to choose & be happy with his "customising".
@rickh8380
@rickh8380 2 ай бұрын
Great collection of bikes indeed. I miss those days. Thank you for sharing and bringing back so many fond memories. Take care guys and ride safe. Cheers
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@bertmeinders6758
@bertmeinders6758 2 ай бұрын
I wasn't impressed by the bulk or the tinselly styling of the Suzuki GT750, and even less impressed when I finally go to ride one. Too heavy, too tall, and nowhere near as good to ride as the Yamaha XS650 which I decided not to replace then. The XS was easily the best bike I owned before I bought my first BMW (R65) in 2007, but I couldn't imagine doing 500,000Km on it.
@rickh8380
@rickh8380 2 ай бұрын
@@bertmeinders6758 I had a 1979 XS650 Special in red. I miss that bike. Bought it new. It was between the Yamaha or a 650 Bonneville. Now I'm thinking I should have bought the Triumph?
@chrissmith2114
@chrissmith2114 2 ай бұрын
'Reliable and smooth' would sell the CB750 to most riders, fed up of the unreliability and vibration of British bike of the time...
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Find my A10 strangely smooth & reliable
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
And yet my A10 is surprisingly smooth and reliable Clearly you’ve never owned or ridden an A7
@chrissmith2114
@chrissmith2114 2 ай бұрын
@@bikerdood1100 Rode quite few British parallel twins in my time, never found one that did not turn my fingers white..... My bike now is a Suzuki SV650 90 deg V twin - no vibration at all from tickover to redline at 11K, and reliable as a swiss watch...
@chrissmith2114
@chrissmith2114 2 ай бұрын
@@bikerdood1100 Parallel twins have bad primary balance and bad secondary balance due to 'rocking couple' due to distance between cranks.. Modern parallel twins have balance shaft to try to cancel out vibration.. I never rode a British parallel twin that was smooth through the rev range, and the larger capacity the worse the vibration. There was a good reason that Japanese wiped out British motorbike industry, and then wiped out the British car industry... They made a much better product.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Well secondary balance and rocking couples are technically speaking different Having a balance shaft does not always guarantee smoother running Essentially the case in singles I do think vibes are very much overplayed. I used to listen to old boys telling me how bad Brit bikes were, then I road one and realised there’s a lot of bull shit out there We recently tested an A7 which was as smooth as many Japanese bikes Better than some
@user-nt1xz6qn8x
@user-nt1xz6qn8x 2 ай бұрын
What do you think of the Yamaha XJ 900f, they are old now not so popular but I like mine.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Those XJs were great family of machines robust with good all round performance. The styling Is of its time which likely means it’s disregarded today So they remain relatively affordable. Great bikes though
@PeteBurns-xv2fz
@PeteBurns-xv2fz 2 ай бұрын
Theyre great bikes, slim and easy to ride, nippy and handle great, another underated bike 👍
@blackghost7263
@blackghost7263 2 ай бұрын
My CB550F is coming uo 200,000kms with out any major problems My arse has done 130,000kms and rising...... Good overall video!
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
😂nice way of thinking about distance The problem with some peoples reaction to the video is that for many bigger is better. The CB750 must be best because it cost more and is bigger right ? Well no actually the 500 and the 550 Andre better all around packages If people don’t like well like you and your trusty 500 I’d says that’s too bad Here’s to another 100,000 k sir
@wallacegrommet9343
@wallacegrommet9343 2 ай бұрын
The 550 was the best of the Honda pack.
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 2 ай бұрын
I've still got an X reg CBX550F2 at my dad's house. It's the red one not the blue one though
@Dallas-Nyberg
@Dallas-Nyberg Ай бұрын
I can recall, back in the 1970s, walking into a motorcycle shop and seeing a brand new Norton Commando 850..... It had just 5 miles on the clock... however, underneath was an oil drip tray, which had a puddle of new oil in it. When I asked the salesman about the drip tray he said.. "Oh they all leak a bit of oil... in fact, if there is no oil in the drip tray, there is none in the bike either" - I didn't purchase it.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 Ай бұрын
Interesting if slightly odd tail
@stuartmoulton6426
@stuartmoulton6426 2 ай бұрын
Trip down memory lane! Loved it!!! Please do an episode featuring the Honda X11, a great bike which had "Marmite" reviews! Great work, thanks!!!!
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@waughontheworld6530
@waughontheworld6530 2 ай бұрын
My new 1977 XS650 was probably the best all round bike I’ve ever owned, I’m now 65, I also owned a GT500, if you were lucky you could pass two petrol stations before needing to refuel, my mate rode the 500 and I was on the 650, we rode the full length of Wales, he fueled up more than twice for every tank I used
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Interesting way of thinking about fuel range, wonder how many miles that equals
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 2 ай бұрын
Is that the 2 stroke 500 twin GT500 that was a big twin for a 2 Stoke at the time. They sounded rather unique. Quite deep and powerful sounding
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
I’d say 500 is right on the limit for a stroker People might rave about the bigger bikes but for me bigger bikes don’t quite work as well
@naubin111
@naubin111 2 ай бұрын
Sadly I sold my 1977 XS650 so that we could put a bathroom where the garage was -BIG MISTAKE!
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
I’d have told the wife Bugger the bathroom 😂
@marcbrasse747
@marcbrasse747 2 ай бұрын
I’ve still got a complete rotary inlet FS1 engine block lying around here. I even own a matching aftermarket water cooled cylinder head (!) which I at the time put on my Zuendapp in stead. This was possible because the spacing of the cylinder bolts is the same. One only had to use the longer bolts from Zuendapp’s own watercooled TT model. Why go through the hassle? At that time watercooling was the ultimate. It worked perfectly!
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Hmmm 🤔 Did Yamaha have a look at a Zundapp first
@marcbrasse747
@marcbrasse747 2 ай бұрын
@@bikerdood1100 Could be but they have little in common elsewhere. Probably more a coincidence. If I remember correctly ( but would have to check it to be sure) the diameter inside the heads flange is actually bigger then that the bore of the Zuendapp cylinder. So the head volume was probably bigger on the FS1 as well. Without any discernible disadvantages during use on the Zuendapp.
@DanielNoest
@DanielNoest 2 ай бұрын
As a former owner of some (tuned) Zündapps and a (tuned) FS1, the Zündapp was the choice for me. The Zündapp brought me all over South and West Europe, no hassle. The FS1, after the fourth time a stuck engine within 1000 km, was not he (reliable) machine I wanted! My brother bought my FS1, put a new crankshaft, piston etc etc, and took it racing. The engine got stuck again, and he broke his wrist. That was the end of the FS1.
@marcbrasse747
@marcbrasse747 2 ай бұрын
@@DanielNoest I basically spilled all my FS1 experiences with the former description. I found them interesting as such but kind of cheaply built. Not that my Zuendapp was very dependable, mind you. But at least it enabled me to get around and develop a lasting love for the whole concept of the motorcycle. Recently donated all it’s remains to my daughter in law. Maybe one day …. 😁
@jvtaxi3766
@jvtaxi3766 2 ай бұрын
My MZ simson,as ugly as it was ,was faster than my mates fs1e and was bulletproof ,we even tried to break it and it kept on going
@54macdog
@54macdog 2 ай бұрын
Great video. Another in a series of overrateds would be very welcome.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
🤔
@martinjohnson9316
@martinjohnson9316 2 ай бұрын
Another of your excellent, interesting and well scripted video's....thank you!
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Thanks
@miketr732
@miketr732 2 ай бұрын
All great bikes, ive rode many of them.matter of fact a friend had a 1968 suzuki 50cc, what a cool machine.it was very powerful for a 50cc. All those bikes shown command big bucks in USA, if in good condition.thanks for eye candy .
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
My first bike was a 50cc Suzuki Things grew very quickly from there
@stuarthammond1009
@stuarthammond1009 2 ай бұрын
Very enjoyable video thanks.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@db-zc9xv
@db-zc9xv 2 ай бұрын
My XS 650 was a constant companion. The Kirkers, enhanced spark and drag bars without the stock bar end weights to dampen vibrations were all that honey needed to turn it into perfection.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Nice
@mebeasensei
@mebeasensei 2 ай бұрын
The Yamaha XS650 seen here us a very late model 'chopper' variant designed for the American Harley sensibilities. I think it is cool but maybe harder to the eye with its small fat back wheel, chopper(ish) seat, mag wheels, etc., but the earlier XSs were much nicer Brit looking machines. Taller and leaner, with a conventional seating plan. The early green and gold models with front drums and spoked wheels look classic.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Well was filmed in the Uk Interesting 🤔
@mebeasensei
@mebeasensei 2 ай бұрын
@@bikerdood1100 yeah they just changed to the American look across the board.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Well given the size if the market basically everyone got American market designs Stupid bars and all
@25chief39
@25chief39 2 ай бұрын
And then the Meriden Co-op did Yamaha the honour of copying the black low-rider XS650 Custom, with their T140D variant with the stepped seat and mag wheels. Wot? Triumph copying Yamaha? G'wan gerroutov'ere!
@matthewcochran3325
@matthewcochran3325 2 ай бұрын
You got stones, hoss! Bold choices but fair. The over inflated prices on the CB750 is why I bought a 79 CB650 to park next to my CB350, which is my daily ride. Excellent work as always, buddy.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
You do get that I’m not saying they are bad Right ??? But they are overrated and now vastly overpriced Is a Z1 worth paying a ton of money more than a Gs1000 No
@matthewcochran3325
@matthewcochran3325 2 ай бұрын
I totally understand what you are saying. I agree. I meant that I bought 2 great motorcycles because they were not overpriced cb750s. We're on the same page, man.
@JR1300r
@JR1300r 2 ай бұрын
I recall binning into a Armco fence at 2am a borrowed Jaffa Kawa Z1 in 1974 ...oh what a night... cheers
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Whoops
@dumptrump3788
@dumptrump3788 2 ай бұрын
My enduring memory of the original CB750s. I liked the electric start & no oil streaks, but it didn't stop & went round corners like a wet noodle.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
👍😂😂
@malcolmwhite6588
@malcolmwhite6588 2 ай бұрын
@@bikerdood1100cornered like a wet noodle=pasta=Italian = brilliant handling 😂🙈👍
@chrisreed3929
@chrisreed3929 2 ай бұрын
Never want to ride a GT750 kettle again. Worst speed wobble at 90mph I have ever experienced. I still get a cold shiver 40 years on thinking of that day.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Oh dear
@andrewbobro6094
@andrewbobro6094 2 ай бұрын
Great video I went with the CB500 vs the 750 for my representative collection. A sweeter bike.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
That’s the impression I got
@fg3901
@fg3901 2 ай бұрын
The smaller CB's were very nice in my opinion.
@johnhudghton3535
@johnhudghton3535 2 ай бұрын
Yet another outstanding video. Thank you.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Well we try to get people thinking Some unfortunately do struggle but what can you do Thanks for the feedback
@michealgillman7418
@michealgillman7418 2 ай бұрын
I had an FS1E dx...paid 400 quid for it, back in the day. It also only 400 miles on it...wish I'd kept the bloody thing. Strangely at 62, I also have an RXS100....what a cracking little bike and will do 65mph, sounds great with the spanny on it and it's worth about 1500 quid! It's original apart from the exhaust and really is a cheap usable classic...just turned 40, so will be tax and mot exempt very soon 👍
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Modern prices are absolutely crazy
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 2 ай бұрын
Shame the road tax is dirt cheap on a 100cc bike anyway. With the bigger bikes you're saving £117 in road tax now.
@jfu5222
@jfu5222 2 ай бұрын
I had a Honda cb550 café racer as my only bike for 13 years. It handled very well and was faster than many bigger bikes.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Hondas best 4 of the 70s
@jfu5222
@jfu5222 2 ай бұрын
​@@bikerdood1100The cb550 was perhaps the best handling Japanese bike of the 70s, you couldn't have paid me to change it for a cb750. I just went through the hornet's nest of a comment section, I enjoyed the format. Classic Bike magazine did something similar many years ago, showing over priced classics and more sensible alternatives.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
The problem seems to be that people are stuck in their ideas
@johnmcbryde715
@johnmcbryde715 14 күн бұрын
what opinion polls are you using?
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 14 күн бұрын
Ohh far too political 😂
@jefffawcett1626
@jefffawcett1626 2 ай бұрын
Interesting that you used the term "overrated" as an apparent synonym for "overpriced" at least as concerns their present day collector value. Moreover, when justifying the argument based on an examination of their contemporaries, you pointed to Nortons, Lavardas and Triumph as having at least equal if not better performance. I won't argue that the European bikes were (in some cases) lighter weight, more powerful or maybe better handling. But the important factor here is the game changing nature of the Japanese bikes' impact on the US and global markets in the 60s, 70s and 80s. Mass produced, yet higher build quality (on average) than European contemporaries. Generally, MUCH more reliable and longer service life. Highly innovate designs with ground breaking technologies. I'm not being overly critical here as I thoroughly enjoy your channel and am grateful for the content and the work you put in... but, in this case the underlying thesis feels flawed or misses the mark. The big road bikes mentioned are all justifiably iconic and frankly, probably worth exactly what collectors are willing to pay.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
It’s a sad fact of life today that the two come hand in hand. The video is not about their historical context but If you were in the market for a classic because of their reputations people tend to desire certain bikes above all others which leads to inflated prices. The unfortunate effect is many then think they can’t afford a classic but if they look at the alternatives maybe they can. If you look at the my other videos you will note that a history lesson is not required As for collectors, well bikes are for riding not to made part of some rich A holes portfolio. If these bikes aren’t affordable to younger riders they won’t take any interest in them then there’s simply no future for classic bikes. Collectors are in these terms the problem and not to point too fine s point on it can kiss my ass Perhaps you failed to grasp the point somewhat ?
@protectorh9167
@protectorh9167 2 ай бұрын
Cb750 is awesome just because it was the first modern bike changing the market.😊
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
And It if you looking for a Japanese classic today Is it the best choice No Best 70s Honda No That’s what the video is saying.
@alistairshaw3206
@alistairshaw3206 2 ай бұрын
I bought a new T140D in 1979, handled brilliantly, but so unreliable, kill switch nearly killed me! I swapped it for a GS550, totally reliable.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Video isn’t really about the T140 though GS 550 was an excellent machine
@stevehill4615
@stevehill4615 2 ай бұрын
Had a Yamaha TX750 import from Fort Worth Texas back in the late 80's (even had red indicator lenses on the back) and had mates with Triumph Bonnies and XS650's swapped bikes with both on occasssions and the impressions I got was the TX had the power delivery of a Bonnie (the XS has a big heavy crank to rev whereas the TX & Bonnie pick up noticeably quicker) but without the vibration a bit like a more powerful 400/450 Superdream (nice trick is to put 6 speed box out of a superdream 250n in a 400 dream ), had T/GT 500's, T's are nice but need the maintenance (points & plugs) to get the best whereas GT's are softer and easier to live with.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Interesting comments thanks
@marko1314
@marko1314 Ай бұрын
Nice 1980's Harris T140 Bonneville there at 07.15 - I've got one those beauties in my stable and it's both very smooth to ride and totally reliable - Other myth-busted is l've also got 3 Japanese bikes of roughly the same vintage in the shed and the Harris is the only one that doesn't leak oil.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 Ай бұрын
Nice 😂
@bobkro1
@bobkro1 2 ай бұрын
In 1972 a friend and I took my Honda K1 ( his BMW 69RS broke ) from Heidelberg to Imola Italy for the first 750 race on the continent. 1 tent, 2 sleeping bags and everything else was strapped to the Honda. Still cruised down the autobahn in the fast lane when asked to. Put 50,000 miles on that bike, never left me stranded.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Video doesn’t d say they weren’t reliable But is the cb550 a better bike 🤔
@bobkro1
@bobkro1 2 ай бұрын
@@bikerdood1100 No way. Not on the Autobahn and not for turing. Get your ass run over in the slow lane. No speed limits back then.
@AndrewC.McPherson-xf5zw
@AndrewC.McPherson-xf5zw 11 сағат бұрын
Dude also has stock light blue 75 Kawi H2 750. Original and mint, low miles. Turned a guy down who offered $25,000 Canadian.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 11 сағат бұрын
Lot of cash for a motorcycle Crazy
@daniellargey8430
@daniellargey8430 2 ай бұрын
In 1977 , my older brother and his girl both bought one each, 1973 rd 60 left over at Franks Yamaha in Hudson MA they got tired of them very quickly and I bought them both for pennies on the dollar. being a junior in High School I rode them all over including down the hall at the local high school, past the library , the principal's office, and down a short set of stairs to the field house and out of the building, but I digress I learned how to ride a motorcycle pretty dan good. I ran that for 3 years and just parked them in the family garage where other siblings took over. That in time was replaced by the big kawi's of the time 1979 SR 650 then a 81 csr 1000 but I fondly look back on those little rd screamers as my Friend John used to call them..
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Little screamers. It’s an apt description
@patrickrose1221
@patrickrose1221 2 ай бұрын
Cracking honest review 👍 Memories eh 🙄🤗❤️
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Well it’s not that they aren’t good but the are well over priced and having prices that high puts younger people off classic bikes which is bad for everyone
@tomcrosby6332
@tomcrosby6332 2 ай бұрын
To my knowledge the Z-1 900 also had a roller bearing crank, which the Honda 750 did not. Another poster talked about wobble on the kawi. Yes I got a high sped wobble in the rain once, Miraculously, it quit. BUT I took the damper off an H-2 and put it on the Z-1, which had the fitting for it from the factory. No idea why it wasn't installed at the factory like the H-2
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Roller bearing crank is often seen as an advantage, this is not actually the case and wear rates on a bush bearing, given a good oil supply is superior. Note that modern SuperBikes don’t use roller bearings. The fact that Kawasaki and Suzuki did at the time is a carry over from their days producing two strokes. From a stability point of view part of the problem as I say in the video was the high handle bars designed to appeal the US market which robbed the rider of much feel.
@tomcrosby6332
@tomcrosby6332 2 ай бұрын
@@bikerdood1100 Thanks for the info.
@750triton
@750triton 2 ай бұрын
Mr Difazzio gave me the lecture about my bike being illegal for a 16 year old on L plates. Maybe due to looking similar to the Honda cub range is why I never got attention from the old Bill. The Yamaha U50 (not the later V50) of 1971 was kickstart and unrestricted. Laid out flat, down a steep hill, I could hit 60 mph. Next was a Suzuki A100. Great bike that took me all over the country and my ride to work bike. Top speed I recorded was 82 mph but given the optimistic nature of Japanese speedo's back then, I only claim 70, which was pretty good with my bird on the back. That too was like a push bike with an engine. Disc valve inlet and oil mixed via the pump, which I became intimate with, thanks to Duckhams 2 stroke oil.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
😂😂 Moped law is dam stupid anyway 30 mph is plain unsafe
@grandadsfishingboat7455
@grandadsfishingboat7455 Ай бұрын
First bike was an FS1E…I was uncatchable on it 😂 I even fitted clip ons at one stage, claiming it added 3 mph to the top speed Happydays.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 Ай бұрын
In real terms laying flat on the tank probably did add 3mph
@CaptHollister
@CaptHollister 2 ай бұрын
Out here in Canada, nice XS650s are not yet overpriced yet. I was just on Marketplace and there are a couple of nice-looking examples on offer for $2500Cdn, but if you want to spend even less for a similar Japanese twin you can look for the very rare Suzuki GR650 Tempter. They were only offered for a couple of model years and sat unsold in showrooms for many years afterward, but in this case rarity does not mean inflated prices: a proper running example will set you back half of what an XS650 will.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Well I think the price of great many machines is going to fall Not enough people who want to ride em unfortunately
@chrisweeks6973
@chrisweeks6973 2 ай бұрын
My eldest stepson had a disc-braked Suzuki 750 water-bottle; a nice bike, but, as you say, thirsty when the throttle gets wrung. One thing noticeable is that these bike, with the exception of the tiddlers, all had comfortable seats, for both the rider and the passenger. Regrettably, the same can't be said of most modern bikes.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Well there are quite a few modern bikes that are comfortable Many which aren’t that’s for sure
@chrisweeks6973
@chrisweeks6973 2 ай бұрын
@@bikerdood1100 Well, agreed, but my point was that most modern bikes, whilst being comfortable for the rider, are far less so for the pillion.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
No doubt about that
@user-yk5kg7kd4r
@user-yk5kg7kd4r 2 ай бұрын
My GS1000G is an absolute fine touring machine with bulletproof engine. And they don't cost 30K either. I had a Z1 back in the 80s and didn't like it much due to the handling. The GS1000 16V motor dominated drag racing for years and is a better platform.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Agreed
@paulgrey8028
@paulgrey8028 2 ай бұрын
When these bikes first came out, my mates and I thought they were the ants pants. My first ride on a CB750 was a massive disappointment. My little RD250 left them in the dust up to 100kph and left them for dead through the corners. Both the CB750 and the Kawasaki Z900 had the nasty habit of tank slapping going above 160kph going in a straight line. [Why steering dampers became popular - yeah, a steering damper ought to do it . . . . not] As for the Suzuki 750 'water bottles'; very fast on the straights but diabolically bad through the bends. Aka 'widow makers'.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Well yea that is something I hear a lot in comments to be honest
@jerryfarmer5989
@jerryfarmer5989 2 ай бұрын
Something to consider over across the pond you folks had/have different bikes than here in the US. The dual purpose bikes of the 70's are second to none. I wish they would make them again. The simplicity of the bikes with wanted fun and performance. No bikes today are like they were. I have a '78 GS750E and I'll take it over any new bike. It has a personality and it works damn good.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Have covered dirt bikes I’ll admit sometime ago however. The bike companies seem to mainly want to sell very high price adventure bikes Like the BMW GS. Can’t imagine anyone sees a GS a serious trail bike, it’s a two wheel truck. No one seems to want to make a simple effective bike. I suspect this is because the profit margins are tight on small bikes. There is definitely a market for simple machines. The global sales success of the Royal Enfield 650s shows as much for road bikes Why other companies don’t build a simple dual purpose bike Who knows 🤷🏼
@duanetrivett750
@duanetrivett750 2 ай бұрын
I had a 1972 XS 650 and it ran forever. My Triumphs had 1940s technology in the early 1970s . The Triumph was prone to break downs at any time but the Triumph is and was my favorite Bikes and I have had a lot of them. So I guess a Bike doesn't have to be perfect to be the Bike any of us.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Never had an XS Had a triumph 750 from 1973 which contrary to pub talk proved rather reliable Only problem while we had it was a dodgy alternator. Honestly had more problems with Suzukis over the years 😂
@KevinClark-tq3mc
@KevinClark-tq3mc 2 ай бұрын
A 1976 GT750 was my first street bike. Rode it to high school; as the only guy with a bike it made me just cool enough not to get hassled by anyone. That bike is long gone but I've had various GT's in my garage ever since
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
👍
@keithdevine8281
@keithdevine8281 2 ай бұрын
I had a honda cb750K2 a great bike loved it,had later model F2 then the CB 900 bol,dor F2C which I love and still ride to this day.Put a yushimura kit in the 750 anf hang on..Best bikes I've ever ridden long trips in Australia.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Well comfortable they certainly are
@JohnCunningham-sy5ug
@JohnCunningham-sy5ug 2 ай бұрын
I owned a 72 XS650 red and white beauty. If I can remember correctly a 77 cb 550 fun bike. And a KZ1 1000 ltd fast with questionable brakes. 😅. Two wheels are fun .I bought a triumph thruxton 900 last year needed a fountain of youth. 😊
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
2 wheels prove less is more Especially when you have lots of em
@adotintheshark4848
@adotintheshark4848 2 ай бұрын
The Suzuki Water Buffalo shared a lot of its electrics with the Honda 750. Both of those bikes were not overrated. I owned several of both and would own either again, except now the prices are through the roof for good examples. And say what you want, but the Honda 750 changed the face of motorcycling big time. People wanted them instead of troublesome English bikes and Harleys. And the Hondas never had a reliability problem if they were maintained, and if you think otherwise , you weren't there at the time.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
The video is not saying they are bad machines It’s more about how people regard them today Unrealistically ignoring many other fine machines I make this abundantly clear in the video Strange people struggle with this very simple concept
@adotintheshark4848
@adotintheshark4848 2 ай бұрын
@@bikerdood1100 Popularity is the reason. Hondas, even before the 750s (the 350 and 450 come to mind) were better bikes, period. I remember this period in motorcycling very well.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Well the black bomber was famous for is poor top end oil supply Something that would god some Hondas for many years
@adotintheshark4848
@adotintheshark4848 2 ай бұрын
that Honda at 20 years old would make it there and back no problem.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
@@adotintheshark4848I’ve owned several 20 year old Hondas and trust me it bloody wouldn’t 😂 Honda were always mean with the grease at the factory so just getting the wheel off can be a ball ache on and that was only 3 year old CBR And before that was 8year old CX that blew its cam chain at under 35,000 miles incidentally when we tour the NC500 in Scotland last year the 5 year old Honda was the only bike that gave trouble and I was on a Royal Enfield The only reason I’d use the Honda is because it’s a CB500x and gives great gas mileage. So in breath would I trust any 20year old Japanese bike in a trans America road trip Not without putting a new alternator and regulator/ rectifier in as a bare minimum I wouldn’t. I’ve leaned this from touring thousands of miles in Europe
@zeke5491
@zeke5491 Ай бұрын
I had a Yamaha 400 enduro back in 1976,it was junk right from the factory. Technicians couldn’t figure out why it kept burning out head lights. My friends rode their Hondas while my bike sat in the shop
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 Ай бұрын
Sounds like a regulator rectifier fault Common on a lot of Japanese bikes of the period
@kevinwest3689
@kevinwest3689 2 ай бұрын
I had the g t seven fifty. It was friggin wicked. If doing 35mph and hit a small divet or pot hole, the slight jolt in my Wrist, it would try to stand up with me. You had to be vary Mindful. It would smoke my XS 1100 special in a Quarter mile. The kawasaki seven fifty two stroke version, FASTER! 14 YEARS fastest Production bike until 1986 with the v max. And on that little bitty 3" tire. But your average rider couldn't ride well enough to get everything out of it. But being good enough didn't mean you were smart.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Oh of course
@christopherwhipps9474
@christopherwhipps9474 2 ай бұрын
The xs650 engine was two cylinders sliced of the Toyota six cylinder engine Yamaha designed for Toyota's sportscar.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Well it was designed by a different company as mentioned in the video What they based it off 🤷🏻
@alan-sk7ky
@alan-sk7ky 2 ай бұрын
Having had both as a teenager, the only thing the fizzie had over the AP was being more tunable and that's it. Otherwise the AP was more reliable (auto oil) and had a 5 speed box. Dood you're being a tiny bit hard on the Z1 but otherwise I agree 100% for once 😀
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Not really Praises the z1 engine too the Skies after all Even handed I thought 😂
@dell5338
@dell5338 2 ай бұрын
Video on the gl1000 75 to 78
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Is feature in a couple of videos already
@jonnaylor3154
@jonnaylor3154 2 ай бұрын
I could never understand the fuss over the Yamaha fs1-e? my mate at college road a mid- 1970's Suzuki g.t 50, 5-speed gearbox, disc front brake and 8 mph faster than said fizzie?
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
They do seem to have a cult following for some reason To me they are all just mopeds
@phillee9651
@phillee9651 2 ай бұрын
a more powerful alternative to the fs1e could be the yb100 , the engine interchangeable with the 50cc ped .
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Would make a good choice Quite hard to find though and a touch pricey too
@alan-sk7ky
@alan-sk7ky 2 ай бұрын
@@bikerdood1100 And the Suzuki A100 engine would drop into an AP 50 ;-) head and barrel wouldn't fit the AP sadly, stud spacing different...
@volt8684
@volt8684 2 ай бұрын
They sold 80 cc kits would cruise at 60
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 2 ай бұрын
​@@alan-sk7kyand the H100 engine fits in the MT5 MB5 with honda. I thought the RXS100 was always a lot nicer than the YB100 they sold at the same time for a wile.
@paulclarkson1778
@paulclarkson1778 2 ай бұрын
Well, I started in '78 with a red AP50 and here I am 46 years later with an amazing Yamaha Niken. Just wow.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
You certainly like to be different that’s for sure Had an AP myself a very long time ago
@garthlundquist3623
@garthlundquist3623 2 ай бұрын
I’ve been riding these bikes since 1963. The British parallel twin was nearing peak development at this time. Many consider my 1970 Triumph Bonneville 650 to be the peak: lightweight, superb handling, and compact. For most any sort of competition that involved corners, it would run away from the Japanese twins. But the excessive vibration, unreliability, and short service life of the engine limited the bike’s everyday usefulness for most riders. Any trip on American freeways was dreaded. The Japanese were able to engineer reliability and comfort into the platform. The addition of electric start was perhaps the nail in the coffin for British twins. The XS 650 was considered to be a refined version of the concept, and although heavier and lacking the nimbleness of the Triumph, was far more comfortable, reliable, and suited for the American market. Kenny Roberts did well on racing versions fitted with an appropriate chassis. Not everyone uses ultimate performance as the prime consideration in bike purchase. I owned many bikes from both countries, but when planning for a multi day ride it was always on a Japanese bike. I stopped too many times on my Brit bikes on the freeway collecting parts that had fallen off to consider riding them far from home.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
The problem was trying to make em too big to please the US market Early 500s are smooth and reliable Remember Britain has no Freeways at that time
@gbreslin6635
@gbreslin6635 2 ай бұрын
There's no way the CB750 was overrated. You said it in the first sentence.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
I said quite a bit more and justified its inclusion too Watch on and listen to the whole thing
@paulcooper5610
@paulcooper5610 2 ай бұрын
Agree about the cb550, great value and a great bike, a goldilocks of a bike, for some reason the 400/4 seems to get a bigger following even though it's slower than a 400 superdream? I have no idea why people buy 2 strokes especially the GT750, I had one back in the day and like you say the fuel economy was rubbish and as with all my Suzuki 2 strokes it seized due to the pump failing. As for the FS1E why are old overweight blokes thinking it could possibly be a good idea to buy and try riding around on these bikes, they were dangerous back when we were 16 and are deadly now, obviously they are going to loose a lot of money once the market moves on a few years and nobody has any historic reason to want to buy one. As for the Kawasaki Z900 yes it's a legendary bike like the Le mans mk1 or Laverda Jota so I can actually understand the prices on this one, for me I'd buy a Z650 which was a better handling bike and genuinely nice to ride, I had one back in 1981 and it was a wheelie machine and looked super cool in Kawasaki green, not too expensive to buy nowadays, somewhere between £3000- £5000 for a really good one or I guess you just buy the new retro Z900rs if you don't want a classic. I really enjoy your videos, you must spend a lot of time researching and coming up with ideas, keep them coming.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Don’t understand the 400/4 myself Too small and buzzy The prices of the FS1E honesty beggar belief I was honestly going to put the z650 in as an alternative, it is a better all round package
@tonycarpenter-Makzimia
@tonycarpenter-Makzimia 2 ай бұрын
I owned a CB750K1 with 4 into 1 hanco trumpet and oversized main jets and sports airfilters, air cap fork upgrade and Marzocchi rear shocks, what a beast :).
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
And a small fortune spent by the sounds of the things
@tonycarpenter-Makzimia
@tonycarpenter-Makzimia 2 ай бұрын
@@bikerdood1100 actually, back in the day, it wasn’t too much. It came with the pipes, so jets and shocks and filters I fitted myself. All up about 400 Aussie dollars. Did my own paint too. It was a rat bike :).
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Not too shabby
@rustyturner431
@rustyturner431 2 ай бұрын
OK... I am an old fart, so my experiences and opinions may be tainted. But I am also a retired motorcycle dealer, so those same opinions do have a bit of weight behind them. The CB750 was such a ground-breaking bike, changing the motorcycling world in one fell swoop. BUT, it was produced in such prodigious quantities that I cannot take it seriously as a collector's item commanding eye-watering prices. Great engine, in an average bike. 550 was in many ways better, as you state, and a REALLY sweet package, almost as quick/fast due to the lower weight. Suzuki's Water Buffalo was a stunner, albeit heavy and certainly not nimble. But they did truly last forever...and I know, as I was a dealer for them. Unless you're a hard-core classic tourer, the Buffalo isn't a sensible choice. I have had several 500 Titans and would always choose that bike over the 750. The Yammer was the "modern" twin, with electric start and Japanese reliability and oil-tightness. But it was behind the multi-cylinder times when new. And again, I can't accept the current values...I'd opt for a CB450. The only thing I can criticize about the Z1 is that they've become stupidly expensive. I'd go for a Suzy 1000 or 1100, especially the early-1980 ones. I know nothing about the Yammer tiddlers...gimme a Honda CB200 with the cable-operated disc brake instead. Now, for my sleeper...ANY CB350 Honda, which don't seem to have become overpriced, yet...
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
People are all too often about names Sometimes at the expense of reality Being the best known doesn’t necessarily mean the best I’d genuinely go for a GS over a Z1 As for the XS it’s always been popular and from a personal perspective I do find 4s uninteresting
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
If you mean the CB350 four cylinder it’s an interesting machine but like it’s 400 sibling it’s too small to work well as a four and while it sounds good the tsp win cylinder opposition is better
@tomtaylor6163
@tomtaylor6163 2 ай бұрын
We are spoiled here in the States because we can still find these bikes with the exception of the KZs really cheap. I rode a 650 Yammie Twin for years . What a great dependable bike although they are heavy turds which handle a bowl of mush. The best ones to get are the early ones and forget about the Specials. I don’t think they are overrated maybe overpriced. Too bad Yamaha kept making them with improvements. They were retro when retro wasn’t cool. But the XS650 are hard to find here now because of the Street Tracker craze , which I think has subsided. It’s hard to find just a plain old 650 that someone hasn’t butchered into a Kenny Roberts lookalike
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Definitely not the case in many countries these days
@smitty9733
@smitty9733 2 ай бұрын
I owned a 67 305 Honda scrambler then -- a 71 750 Honda -- then a 79 KZ 1000 -- I loved them all !!
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with that But try to buy em now And there’s the problem
@nicolausuhlmann7074
@nicolausuhlmann7074 2 ай бұрын
Excellent video !! I had everyone of the big bikes shown except the Suzuki Water Buffalo and the Z900 Kawasaki! Instead I had the Titan 500 ! I am glad that Kawasaki reintroduced yhe Z1 ! My bike of choice would be the W800 Cafe ! I always wanted a Norton with a 65 hp combat engine ! Say la Vie ! 🙏👍
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
There always be those bikes you never get round too Only so much room the garage
@nicolausuhlmann7074
@nicolausuhlmann7074 2 ай бұрын
@@bikerdood1100 The last of the Norton's to come if the line sold here for approx $1800 Can ! I should have bought one ! Still lots of them around ! When I retired at 55 , I got rid of 2 work ( farrier ) trucks and 6 motorcycles ! I've been bicycling for 10:years now ! When my legs give out I will buy another motorcycle ! I we ould like one of the new 125 Super Cubs ! Al and all one of the best dual purpose units that I have had was my Suzuki 650 V- Stroma ! For: weight , size , mileage , comfort and 5 speed ! 👍
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Those super cubs do seem nice I think Problem with bicycles is those dam hills
@robertmaitland09
@robertmaitland09 2 ай бұрын
Can't go wrong with the suzuki gs fours, brilliant solid bikes without the hype!
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
I’d tend to agree Best all round package
@Bob-ts2tu
@Bob-ts2tu 2 ай бұрын
my m8 over the road (in his 70's) has almost finished restoring a 1972 750 four, although it looks a bit different to the one here, it has lower sporty bars for one, and i was joking saying i'll have to have a go on it when finished. po faced he said i wouldnt make it to the bottom of the street before it spat me off lol, as i havent got enough experience, and i believe him
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Well in reality like all Hondas the thing was pretty user friendly Honda seldom do aggressive and radical if they can avoid it
@albywalker
@albywalker 2 ай бұрын
Hi Bikerdood not sure what happened to my previous comment. My T500 has popped up on couple of your videos, I was at Bridgenorth last summer. You are welcome to do a video road test on it if you want, just reply and we can make arrangements.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
That would be fantastic Of course Ince the rain stops of course
@gunsdonovan9183
@gunsdonovan9183 2 ай бұрын
Not a bike you spoke about but i would love a CB750FD to go with my CB900FD.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Did cover them a short time ago in a previous video
@simonflood259
@simonflood259 2 ай бұрын
I've got the GT 750 had for 40 plus years and I bought a Z1000 before the price went up both used on the road
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Prices are just stupid these days
@rekzkat
@rekzkat 2 ай бұрын
The CB"550 preferable to the CB750 was actually a CB500, four silencers confirm it.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Got to use what images I’ve got sometimes Matters not The point stands 500 was very good too
@harristga4033
@harristga4033 2 ай бұрын
I still have my 1983 CB1100FD in lovely condition after all these years. Having owned many modern bikes the 1100F rides like a bucket of sh#t, it's not fast & can't stop - but it is so beautiful!!
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
😂
@dannybryant6873
@dannybryant6873 2 ай бұрын
If I had known that the CBX wouldn't sell well I would have went shopping to see if I could get an okay price. I just figured such an awesome bike would be marked way up.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Nope Was expensive when released but they sold very slowly They sold around 27,000 in total. Good numbers for a small European company of the period. Not so much for Honda, by Hondas standards something of a flop
@zatoichi101
@zatoichi101 2 ай бұрын
LOL!!! "Overrated"??? The Honda CB 750, the Suzuki GT 750 and the Kawasaki Z1 900??? Those three sit on TOP of my DREAM BIKE list. These bikes are ICONIC FOR A REASON. They were WAY, WAY more groundbreaking and reliable than anything that came out of your beloved UK (sour grapes much?).
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Iconic they are But Does that mean they make the best choice for someone looking for a Classic Japanese bike ? I offer alternatives for this very reason Please note that this video is specifically about Japanese bikes and doesn’t say that they are bad bikes at all It’s not complicated Clearly too difficult for some Nothing to do with British bikes and some are mentioned only as a bench mark Do note that the alternatives mentioned are other Japanese bikes 🙄 I clearly need to make my videos simpler in the future 😂
@GregoryStrauss-tk7pe
@GregoryStrauss-tk7pe 2 ай бұрын
Nobody on KZfaq has done a video on the Honda Hurricane 1000, 750 and 600. A deep dive will uncover some interesting facts.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Would be nice The 750 was unfortunately never sold on the uk Had the 600 though
@mldav4
@mldav4 2 ай бұрын
I ride a 1980 Yamaha xs850 tripple, definitely a chunkster but its a rare animal.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
The 850 is much improved of the 750 O doubt about that
@rosewood1
@rosewood1 2 ай бұрын
The GT 750 was a very fast bike with full roller bearing internals. Mid range acceleration was something else and it became the basis of the legendary race bike ridden by Barry Shean which conquered everything.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Sort of true although Mr Sheene’s bike ran in a very different chassis Most modern two strokes, that’s post World War 2 with a few exceptions, as always run roller bearing internals incidentally
@Jones-xx2gc
@Jones-xx2gc 2 ай бұрын
I had 750 four a 550 four k. Wish I had kept mine. Would love a Z1 but pricey these days.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Too pricy theses days
@pauldarderi3560
@pauldarderi3560 2 ай бұрын
You have to pay for quality
@charlesbynum
@charlesbynum 2 ай бұрын
The Z1's not overrated. It's severely overrated. The CB750 wasn't trying to be sporty, an endeavor in which it succeeded entirely. It was the CB750 that first made me wonder if the industry could even produce a 500lb bike that would handle. It was the Z1 that convinced me they couldn't.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
They aimed both at the US market Understandably Both are heavy with ponderous steering The high bars on the Z are particularly bad
@pauldarderi3560
@pauldarderi3560 2 ай бұрын
Overrated I think not you obviously no nothing about them they won the Castrol 6 hour race three years in a row on a tight track Amaroo Park Sydney Australia production bikes too dead standard plus numerous race wins world wide and in drag racing was King
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Couple of things here really No ? It’s Know Also I’m not American I know where Sidney is Production racers are never dead standard as you put it Different suspension units for a start and no way anyone would be racing on those standard bars Be serious You do know that overrated is not the same as bad Right ? Watch the video and pay attention Instead of forming opinions ahead of time Fact People pay ridiculous money for them If you watched properly you would have noticed the price tag on the one featured Z1 better than a GS 1000 No Suzuki is definitely not perfect but it’s a better all round package Dead standard 😂😂hilarious
@pauldarderi3560
@pauldarderi3560 2 ай бұрын
Here it shows that you no nothing about the Castrol 6 hour race the bike are standard shocks are original fitment one year a Suzuki was disqualified for removing the horn to allow better air flow and engine's were striped and checked for the first 3 places absolutely no improvements over standard
@pauldarderi3560
@pauldarderi3560 2 ай бұрын
And you spelt Sydney wrong if you want to be technical
@thomasbrett5341
@thomasbrett5341 2 ай бұрын
Had a lovely xs 650 ,,found in back of bike shop ,,was young ,,well younger,,so i sold it ,,
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Would get a much better price now I’ll bet
@markhorton8578
@markhorton8578 2 ай бұрын
Interesting about the 750 suzi 2 stroke. You say handling not as good as later machines. One thing I noticed early on was that Norton riders who used to go on endlessly about handling were the ones who bought that bike. It seemed a massive jump in weight and look. Ask them what they had previous and it was often a Norton commando or similar. Was there something in common between the handling of Nortons and the big Suzi smokers? You wouldn't think so from looking at them.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Nothing to do with Norton Early Japanese bikes didn’t handle particular well In the video I refer to later machines not earlier. The GS 750 handled much better than the GT, nothing to do with Norton at all 🙄 The featherbed frame is relevant in so much is that it influenced the design of many later machines, Japanese included. Specifically the BMW Rs of the 70s Still nothing to do with this particular video at all however
@markhorton8578
@markhorton8578 2 ай бұрын
@@bikerdood1100 Thanks for that. I wasn't into bikes in a big way then, but when on a few occasions I pointed out the Norton link to "real bikers" asking them about it, they would always pause and say something like "Oh yeh, your right, I hadn't noticed that."
@thinkingimpaired5663
@thinkingimpaired5663 2 ай бұрын
I remember my 750/4 it was a nice bike. The guy i sold it to, asked me "are you sure you don't want more money from me?"
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
The conversation would be very different these days
@middleclassretiree
@middleclassretiree 2 ай бұрын
I had to laugh at the comparisons of the British bikes to the Japanese bikes yes some of the British bike’s might have been slightly faster and some were even great looking, I love the nortons but the thing that made the Japanese bike’s stand out was their quality they were as dependable as a rock whereas the Norton owner when invited for a cruise or challenged to a race always had the same answer- as soon as I get it running again 😂😂😂
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
The video is about Japanese bikes specifically British bikes mentioned only as a bench on a couple of Occasions and all the alternatives offered are notably Japanese I do try and keep these things simple Clearly I’ll need to dumb down next time 😂
@grahamdavis8404
@grahamdavis8404 2 ай бұрын
Had a Honda f2, liked it but found it heavy and not that fast compared to the gs550 I had prior.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Well was a fair bit more powerful but perhaps not as accomplished in the corners
@grahamdavis8404
@grahamdavis8404 2 ай бұрын
@@bikerdood1100 to be fair the Honda I had just wasn't quick in any form the most I ever see on the speedo was 112! And trust me at 24years old I tried my hardest!🤣
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Almost like they didn’t actually make the claimed power 🤔
@rockape1954
@rockape1954 2 ай бұрын
The 550 Honda four was not contempory with the 750 till much later the 500 four survived for many years and were very popular
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Yes indeed it was How long was the cb750 in production The accurate answer is of course too long as Honda concentrated all their effort on cars True the F2 arrived in the mid 70s but it’s no more than a light refresh So yes it was
@andrewwood3597
@andrewwood3597 2 ай бұрын
I always hankered for Yamaha's 650 when I was young and I eventually bought a TX650. It looked great but I distinctly remember one day being very unimpressed as I overtook a car and it just seemed a bit weak and unimpressive. Not as sweet as my CB500 I owned a few years earlier. Never wanted a parallel twin again. I had a Ducati 750 F1 later and there is just no comparison to those bikes. 90 degree V twin good, parallel twin bad! Although maybe me and Yamaha just don't get on as the only new bike I bought was an XT500 scrambler which was really disappointing. I thought my Honda XL250 was better. Bigger is not always better for some people.
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
We do in fact own both British and Japanese parallel twins and love them We also have 4 very different Italian V twins too
@andrewwood3597
@andrewwood3597 2 ай бұрын
@@bikerdood1100 Yes, my Yamaha 650 may have needed tuning or something. I loved my Suzuki RG250 parallel twin but of course, two stroke. Anyway, thanks for your work and greetings from New Zealand!
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 2 ай бұрын
Now the RG is an interesting bike I always felt that 250cc is the perfect size for a 2 stroke
@gerardburton3741
@gerardburton3741 Ай бұрын
How about a video on mid range touring bikes from the 1990's. For those of us who cannot afford a Goldwing... :)
@bikerdood1100
@bikerdood1100 Ай бұрын
I like it 🤔
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