5 Reasons Why A Yes Reunion Can't Happen Soon

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RushTrader

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Күн бұрын

Will there be another "Union" for the surviving members of Yes? The simple answer is NO. While fans may love the idea of seeing all their favorite Yes men share the same stage once again, the past 30 years haven't been to kind to the band.
The period leading up to the band's 1991 "Union" album and tour had been their most successful, coming on the heels of their 80's rebirth with new guitarist Trevor Rabin and their highly successful "90125" and "Big Generator" albums. However, when you honestly look at what's happened to Yes in the years since, it's been pretty messy.
Anyone who felt there were too many lineup changes in the 70s and 80s were in for much more of that in the 90s and 2000's which also included the untimely death of founding member and legendary bassist, Chris Squire, the retirement of founding drummer Bill Bruford and the exit of found singer and Yes visionary, Jon Anderson.
All of these major changes in Yes have made it increasingly difficult, if not impossible, for any of the remaining members including Rick Wakeman, Trevor Rabin, Steve Howe, Alan White and Jon Anderson to join forces again in any meaningful way.
Yes fans got a real treat when Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman (ARW) finally decided to tour as it was great not only seeing Jon again in a Yes context but also having Rabin and Wakeman together on the same stage as they had always wanted to work together since the Union tour in '91. However, without the ability to get together and record brand new material, Rabin lost interest and ARW has fallen apart.
With both Anderson and Squire now gone from Yes, Steve Howe remains in total control. It's the Steve Howe band, basically, with a Jon Anderson clone (Jon Davison) along with old friends Geoff Downes (of Asia), Alan White, and Billy Sherwood who has been in and out out the band over the past three decades.
As far as I'm concerned, the band calling themselves Yes right now do so only because they're legally entitled to do so. True fans of the classic band know who the real deal is and have come to accept those days...to be over.
Later, Ant
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@davidperry7128
@davidperry7128 3 жыл бұрын
Steve means 'people have to like working with HIM'. No one wants another Union tour, but Yes need to end, the current Yes is an abomination. Slow and dull.
@bigfoot5347
@bigfoot5347 3 жыл бұрын
couldnt agree more ,steve howe needs to call it a day
@figgybass
@figgybass Жыл бұрын
I know this video is a few years old, but I'm looking forward to seeing Jon Anderson this spring with the Band Geeks. They're awesome!
@RushTrader
@RushTrader Жыл бұрын
Yes, I got my tix for that one! I was hoping Jon would do something similar to Steve Hackett where he just goes out with top notch players and really gives the catalog the show it deserves. Band Geek will be amazing for Jon and all Yes fans, 100x better than the current "Yes", that's for sure.
@MochaDaisy8645
@MochaDaisy8645 3 жыл бұрын
I think a final Yes reunion for maybe a 15-20 date farewell would be nice but doesn’t seem likely. Wouldn’t hurt to ask Geddy Lee to sit in, either
@davemurray5706
@davemurray5706 3 жыл бұрын
I gave up on Yes in 2009 after seeing David Benoit on vocals and Oliver Wakeman on keys. It just wasn't there. Hearing Steve Howe complain to the soundman a few times was something I've never seen from them before. I followed Jon Anderson and Rick Wakeman thereafter, including their tour with Trevor Rabin, which is likely the last time I will ever see them.
@kencrabtree9197
@kencrabtree9197 3 жыл бұрын
You’ve nailed that on the head . Totally agree with you
@of-qw7po
@of-qw7po 3 жыл бұрын
Time for Yes to go to bed and call it a day. Go home to your families and spent you ending years with them. There is no more great music for you to write. It was nice but now it's sour.
@chrisschrecker5497
@chrisschrecker5497 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I’ve seen them with Anderson, Benoit David and Jon Davidson. Every show has been one of tired diminishing returns. They sounded off musically and “Krull” Howe overacts on stage. Personally I’m OK with them retiring quietly and not ruining their legacy. Take care.
@dclark4422
@dclark4422 3 жыл бұрын
I agree completely with what you said about Neil Peart and Rush. I can’t wrap my head around it either. Peart was a perfectionist and didn’t want to let anyone down with a substandard performance. I respect Rush for knowing when to call it a day.
@shawnmcvey7789
@shawnmcvey7789 3 жыл бұрын
Even if you aren't a Rush fan I find it hard not to respect them.
@shawnmcvey7789
@shawnmcvey7789 3 жыл бұрын
Having so many former members and such a legacy really makes things messy.
@coyotecreekband236
@coyotecreekband236 Жыл бұрын
I always thought that Chris Squire was the glue that kept the band together. My all time favourite bass player. He seemed to be the soft filling in between two hard cookies (Anderson and Howe). I'm glad that I got to see the real band live several times.
@RushTrader
@RushTrader Жыл бұрын
One way Squire held the band together was by having the ability to talk people into doing things and bringing people together when needed. He was key on getting Wakeman into the band, Trevor Horn and Trevor Rabin. If anyone would have been able to get a proper Yes reunion going these days, it would have Squire. Without him, Howe gets to run Yes his way and he seems content with that despite not having their original iconic vocalist. Howe must really not want to go another 10 rounds with Anderson on any level, which is a shame.
@coyotecreekband236
@coyotecreekband236 Жыл бұрын
@@RushTrader I believe he also brought Tony Kaye back for the "Cinema" project, before they reverted back to Yes. He just seems like a great guy that musicians respected and wanted to be around. I missed a chance to meet him in Vancouver when they were recording and my friend was a keyboard tech. I didn't want to be 'one of those fans' so I didn't go with him. Still one of my biggest regrets.
@RushTrader
@RushTrader Жыл бұрын
@@coyotecreekband236 Yeah, Squire was a schmoozer and had this way of talking people into things.
@myshow667
@myshow667 3 жыл бұрын
I went to see YES in 2018 or so, its was kinda sad. I saw Jon with his new band last year as well, much more fun.
@dclark4422
@dclark4422 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video. I wouldn’t go to a Yes concert because Chris Squire is gone. It’s that simple. I cried at the end of the video. It was so nice to see Rick Wakeman and Squire hugging and smiling.
@classicalbum
@classicalbum 3 жыл бұрын
I agree - I miss Chris Squire
@ruthierochesterNY
@ruthierochesterNY 3 жыл бұрын
D Clark I agree with you. Although Anderson’s angelic voice caught me right away it was the bass line that made me stop and listen for it on each track. His playing taught me what a good bass is and what the rest is. He was unique and the melody he gave us on the bass was awesome. When he passed I said to myself, well no more Yes concerts. I miss him so.
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
@Ruthie Rochester NY I was recently listening to Squire's "Hold Out Your Hand" from his solo album and "No Opportunity Necessary, No Experience Needed" from Yes' second album... that's some bass playing right there, simply amazing the style he had.
@JosephFrancisBurton
@JosephFrancisBurton 3 жыл бұрын
I think this extended lock down is going to force the retirement of a lot of these classic bands that have been stuck on nostalgia tours for the last 20 years. I have no interest in seeing any of these classic bands I grew up with when there are so many young musicians making great new music. The last time I saw Yes perform was 2000, they were great, and that is how I want to remember them.
@maxmeister5064
@maxmeister5064 2 жыл бұрын
Lockdowns hinder anybody, not just the old bands 😉
@russelljones5839
@russelljones5839 3 жыл бұрын
Thorough and well done as always, Ant. It saddened me to read in Rabin's interview that ARW was over. Saw those guys three times during their run and they killed it each time. I agreed with Wakeman in the Rolling Stone interview awhile back when he said the Yes band name probably should have been retired when Chris Squire died. Ah well, we fans will always have the memories, and what glorious memories they are! Anyhoo, keep up the good work, and all the best to you and yours during this shitshow of a year.
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words Russell! I think if anyone from the Yes camp was going to release anything interesting it would have been something involving Rabin. I really don't think Steve can write anything memorable at this point, judging by recent solo releases and that awful last Yes studio album.
@jskypercussion
@jskypercussion 3 жыл бұрын
@@RushTrader The Gilded Splinter song from Steve Howe Trio 2019 is an excellent jazz song. But then again it is an unfinished song of his and Brufords from the 70's. It is so sad to see my favorite band deteriorate over these years. Their last great strong tour as real yes was 2004. ARW was enough closure to make make up for Steve's weak lineup. Heaven and Earth is a bad fart. I did enjoy the Fly From Here album because it is unfinished business from Drama. Personally I absolutely love the Magnification album. That is the last great strong Yes material. Those songs are really well composed and structured and very memorable. Thanks for doing the video. You really covered everything well that is going on.
@maxmeister5064
@maxmeister5064 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be so sure that they are really over. Rabin says they are hindered by everybody living in different corners of the world. Which might impare your writing and recording new music, but can it be an obstacle to touring? I actually am quite positive that they'll eventually be back.
@4absentfriends
@4absentfriends Жыл бұрын
I agree with your assessment that a reunion can't happen without Chris Squire. It's sad to see (and hear) what Steve Howe's YES is doing under the YES banner.
@weitzen
@weitzen 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best , if not the best sumnation of the current status of Yes , with some interesting new (to me) quotes and points of view! The chances of any sort of reunion was knocked on the head , not by Steve necessarily , but by Jon.....he shot himself in the foot with that piece of brutal honesty! I can only imagine Steve's reaction to that!! In saying that , I like and have enjoyed the current lineup live (please no more "No Jon No Yes Crap....I know , I know!!!) Just wish (Corona notwithstanding) they could get some new material together!! Having read Steve's autobiography , he paints a pretty grim picture of what its like to be in a studio pulling together Yes music, even including those classic early albums!
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment Phil, much appreciated! Like Tommy Shaw, Steve just wants to be happy. I don't think he feels like going another 9 rounds with Jon in the studio and, creatively, it sounds like they're in two different places.
@davebellamy4867
@davebellamy4867 Жыл бұрын
It's true though and it's been true for a while. Though obviously, Steve's a musical genius.
@ARZSteveA
@ARZSteveA 2 жыл бұрын
Great channel Rush Trader, been on a binge of your content. You address the questions I wonder about concerning Yes, etc. Looking forward to more of your work.
@RushTrader
@RushTrader Жыл бұрын
Thank you Steve!
@oliviertilanus
@oliviertilanus 3 жыл бұрын
In the last 30 years? Magnification, Fly From Here, the Ladder, Keystudio. All stellar albums
@sneekapart
@sneekapart 3 жыл бұрын
agreed, especially FFH, such a great album
@hubbsllc
@hubbsllc 3 жыл бұрын
@@sneekapart There is a lot of great material on FFH. I thought it was pretty crappy of Horn to release a version with his own vocal pasted over Benoît David's. David really delivered on that album and tour (which I was fortunate to see). And David's voice on "Into The Storm" was just amazing - the line "Take me away from the heart of the storm"...Horn couldn't touch that.
@ybrix101
@ybrix101 3 жыл бұрын
@@hubbsllc Yea. Trevor Horn should have just re-joined in 2008 if he wanted to make another album with Yes.
@davidperry7128
@davidperry7128 3 жыл бұрын
Fly from Here is awful, Drama II, but worse. than the original. Third rate Asia album. The two Buggles albums were better.
@kencrabtree9197
@kencrabtree9197 3 жыл бұрын
SUPER POSTING . Lots to digest and some great insights into the life ( or lack of it ) in one of the worlds greatest bands KEEP US INFORMED APPRECIATED
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
Ken, I appreciate that, thanks so much!
@radiomindchatter7994
@radiomindchatter7994 3 жыл бұрын
No point..its not Yes by any means. Steve Howe is not Yes and frankly should not play under that banner...
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
Steve uses the Yes name because he can legally. The true substance of the band is gone and all he has now is a weak tribute to a once great band.
@haroldfadorka3816
@haroldfadorka3816 Жыл бұрын
I just wanted to add I appreciate the time and effort you put into your podcast. Always well planned and thought out. Excellent content for sure. Best wishes and many thanks.
@RushTrader
@RushTrader Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Harold, I really appreciate that!
@hubbsllc
@hubbsllc 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like post-UNION, THE LADDER is the most worthy Yes release. "Homeworld" from that album was really solid and the band made great use of themselves on it.
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
"Homeworld" is probably the best one on that album and "The Messenger" is good too. The reason why that album has more going for it than others around that time is because they had a real producer involved with Bruce Fairbairn. Unfortunately, he passed away before completion.
@The_Rockin_Prof
@The_Rockin_Prof 3 жыл бұрын
I still enjoy "Talk" if only for "Endless Dream," which was one of their finest long-form songs since "Awaken."
@hubbsllc
@hubbsllc 3 жыл бұрын
@@The_Rockin_Prof I hear you - all I like off of TALK is "The Calling" and "State Of Play."
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
@Jeffrey Leatherwood I agree on "Endless Dream" and was hoping they would have pulled it out for ARW as it would have been interesting to hear Wakeman play on that one.
@06hatter
@06hatter 3 жыл бұрын
The Ladder is one of the best Yes albums full stop.
@classicalbum
@classicalbum 3 жыл бұрын
What a great channel... subscribed
@ProgFanification
@ProgFanification 3 жыл бұрын
You raise many good points...but I'm glad that YES music is still being played...same with Genesis and King Crimson... The music is timeless! Keep up the great posts...I always enjoy them. Would love to hear your thoughts on Genesis Revisited and King Crimson.
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! About a year ago I did a video on Crimson, my concert review from their last tour. I'm hoping to see Hackett early next year so I'm sure a video on that will follow. Thanks for the recommendations as I always love feedback on what topics fans are interested in.
@tadgermain8101
@tadgermain8101 Жыл бұрын
Life goes on it's not fair to expect so much from our cherished musicians I saw yes last year Billy Sherwood and John Davidson we're outstanding with Steve Howe they gave us great yes music
@jimmybarr7387
@jimmybarr7387 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought Steve Howes new book. The first chapter on the rnr hall of fame induction says it all. Fractured beyond repair. And Howe is determined to run it into the ground.
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment Jimmy, I have yet to read Steve's book.
@jeffschielka7845
@jeffschielka7845 3 жыл бұрын
@@RushTrader Don't bother, it sucks!
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
@mum I heard Steve Hackett's book was a snoozefest, know anything about that one?
@ambientfish1369
@ambientfish1369 2 жыл бұрын
I've met Anderson, Wakeman, Squire, White, Rabin, Downes and Howe, all are basically human beings who have retained the ability to relate to us as fans, Downes in particular I stood in the rain outside a Glasgow hotel having a smoke and talking shit with him for 15 minutes. The exception being Steve Howe, he is probably one of the 5 greatest guitarists IMO but he comes across as introverted to the point of illness, at 2 meet and greets that he's hosted he was just there with zero participation. Just my experience and impressions.
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! Funny you mention Downes... I met him as well, interviewed him for about 45 minutes back in 2002 Just a couple of weeks ago I found that interview which I thought had been lost. So, I'll be featuring that here in the near future. Downes is very approachable while Steve can be a bit standoffish or at least come across as that.
@lastdaysguitar
@lastdaysguitar 3 жыл бұрын
This ship has sailed. The best we can hope for is Jon & Steve doing (somehow) writing again and maybe a studio album.
@tomdomer
@tomdomer Жыл бұрын
I, of course, listened to many YES hits on the radio. However, I was never "into" them. I LOVED this interview. Jon & Rick have created NEW fan.
@threepistols7
@threepistols7 3 жыл бұрын
I never really got into Yes, but still a great video. I just hope that our beloved classic musicians can hang on until we can see them again live.
@mikewest1542
@mikewest1542 3 жыл бұрын
Me neither, was always a massive ELP/Genesis fan, I appreciate their music though!
@JulesFox
@JulesFox 3 жыл бұрын
Good video. I think Yes has quite a bit of music from the last 30 years... Magnification is a highly under-rated album. Talk was great - The Ladder was very good. Plenty of music. Howe - really didn't respect Rabin back in the Union days.. however, in the 2010's Howe expressed quite openly that Owner of a Lonely Heart was a sensational song FOR Yes. Rick Wakeman has also commended the Yes-West era. I think it could work - they are older and Howe has got that bug out of his bonnet. I think Alan should probably have retired from touring about 8 - 10 years ago. Wakeman, Peart & Briford made the right decision - they deserve to be able to retire.
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment Julian!
@Jeff-o-Lee
@Jeff-o-Lee 3 жыл бұрын
It was actually Jon Anderson that called Rick Wakeman to rejoin Yes for "GFTO" . Rick said to Jon that he couldn't do another "Tales From Topographic Oceans" album & wasn't a big fan of "Relayer" until Jon played him the the demo of "Wonderous Stories" & one other demo. Steve Was in ASIA when "90215" came out. The first ASIA album was released in March of '82 & YES were recording "90215" in July '82.
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment, Lee. I believe what you're referring to is when Rick was first asked to be part of the GFTO sessions. Initially, he was hired as a session guy and not officially part of the band. In the YesYears documentary (early 90s), Rick describes a moment, before the GFTO tour, where management, along with Chris, approached Rick about becoming a full-time member of the band again. Rick specifically singled out Chris and described how he "severely comes to the forefront when necessary", which indicates how persuasive Chris was in getting Rick back into the band full-time. Also, if you're interested, check out Part 1 of my 2000 interview with Steve where I asked him where he was when he first heard 90125 and what he thought.
@myshow667
@myshow667 3 жыл бұрын
Jon is a founding member...Steve is not
@josegabriellugo
@josegabriellugo Жыл бұрын
You are totally righty, let’s stick to the best memories they gave us, and stop wonder for a miracle reunion
@nicholassands9903
@nicholassands9903 3 жыл бұрын
Great commentary... all extremely well said!
@davebellamy4867
@davebellamy4867 Жыл бұрын
15:00 You nailed it 100% there!
@sizzlemann
@sizzlemann 3 жыл бұрын
Saw both bands a few years ago. Steve's version SUCKED!!! We left before the show was over. Saw ARW a few weeks later and they slayed it! A gazillion times better. I'd pay to see ARW again but you couldn't pay me to sit through another "official" Yes show.
@hubbsllc
@hubbsllc 3 жыл бұрын
In the KZfaq videos I've seen of ARW, Wakeman and Rabin especially looked like they were having a ball together.
@sizzlemann
@sizzlemann 3 жыл бұрын
@@hubbsllc they all had a good time together. I saw them twice and both shows were full of energy and incredible music.
@BarrySanchez
@BarrySanchez 2 жыл бұрын
I saw both of the lineup’s twice in the last few years and I couldn’t agree more Steve’s Yes while he is a better guitarist but the rest of the band doesn’t come close to Jon’s YES.
@starshiptrooper7670
@starshiptrooper7670 3 жыл бұрын
Steve will always stand tall in the Yes hall of fame. Right now I just fill sorry for the guy and the band.
@davidking4831
@davidking4831 Жыл бұрын
Yes we're a one off.A group of talented individuals who created some of the finest prog rock. Time has taken its toll as it will always do. Just be glad for the recordings and concert videos. That's all we have now.
@lobrutto
@lobrutto 3 жыл бұрын
Only thing left is creating an opportunity for a new great band. Just a quick thought of The Orphans ... Anderson (vocals), Wakeman (keys), Lee (Bass), Lifeson (guitar), Palmer (Drums). Put it out there ?
@wuckle
@wuckle 3 жыл бұрын
That would be interesting.
@nirradyen-tolobaz3727
@nirradyen-tolobaz3727 3 жыл бұрын
Carl Palmer is an absolute overrated tosser .
@jamesbrady2278
@jamesbrady2278 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your replie I forgot one thing when I was talking about yes at Jones Beach September 7, 2001 I had a good friend that got me great seats ninth row dead center and that’s when they were touring with the full orchestra they opened up with close to the edge they absolutely stunned the audience we were blown away after it was finished everybody in the soled out Jones Beach theater stood up for about 6 minutes with a standing ovation funny thing with Chris Squire got caught with an open mic near him and he said I’ll go run and drain the lizard everybody heard it he came back he tried to apologize but we said we love you Cris Squire you gave me a good insight about the inner workings of yes always looking to study the past especially about my favorite music I’m sure you know this that he got the nickname fish because he stayed in the bathtub for three hours a day but I’m sure you knew that please keep up the good work and The same time i’ve read free books about ELP and I have a feeling because you’re gifted insight i’m sure you know about that too the thing about talking about these groups that everybody’s got their story and try to show up to Next guy and one last thing I’m so blessed that at the height of their zenith meaning yes and Emerson Lake and Palmer I hope you weren’t upset on my other comments what I said about Styx because I tell you they were trying but they were not on the level of yes Emerson Lake and Palmer Genesis Jethro Tull I hope you don’t think this is British bias but that’s just how I feel but for all the fans out there I did not mean to insult them take care God bless everybody out there hopefully will get through all of the troubles at this time in our country take care good luck and follow your gut
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the memories, James. I had a similar experience the summer before at Jones Beach, which is probably my favorite Yes show of all time. It had been a cloudy, rainy day but the skies were opening up during "Gates of Delirium". When they got to the "Soon" segment, the moon appeared out of the clouds right above Jon, it was quite amazing. Lots of great performances that evening.
@photoslum
@photoslum 3 жыл бұрын
No Chris Squire = no Yes.
@WhiteWizzard
@WhiteWizzard Жыл бұрын
I was front row on the union tour...that was a special one
@cowetascore8476
@cowetascore8476 3 жыл бұрын
No Squire, no Yes. Face it. Done. Over.
@scifiartman8370
@scifiartman8370 Жыл бұрын
For me, when Chris Squire passed Yes should have ended too! Yes was great - one of the greatest musical experiences of modern times, but it's been done and it's time to wrap it up. And then all these fine players can explore their impressive solo directions. Solos, duos, trios and more but drop the Yes name - you've milked that name long enough! I can't keep up with the soap opera that has become the Yes band journey, and I don't really care, except I'd like to see the survivors get along and be civil with each other. All the best guys, and thanks for some of the greatest music, ideas and experiences of my life! And I'll always be watching for whatever you might do in the future. But Yes is unfortunately dead and should be buried, with love!
@DavidLazarus
@DavidLazarus 3 жыл бұрын
I just had a brilliant idea! Jon Anderson should tour with Steve Hackett's band and play Yes music from, say, 1970 to 2000 and maybe even a few new songs that Jon has written. I think Hackett would gladly do that.
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
David thanks for the comment. That's a refreshing idea and something I'd be totally down for. That would be the best way to do the Yes catalog justice at this point.
@DavidLazarus
@DavidLazarus 3 жыл бұрын
@@RushTrader - I think Steve Hackett would be flattered by the idea.
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
@@DavidLazarus The only thing is... would he be okay with playing Howe's parts? They have different styles. Actually, Howe should join them too and they have a Genesis/Yes extravaganza.
@DavidLazarus
@DavidLazarus 3 жыл бұрын
@@RushTrader - I don't think Howe would do it for the same reason he doesn't want Jon in Yes. It's a darn shame that, apparently, Howe made Chris choose between him or Jon. If I were Chris, I'd have called his bluff and chosen Jon. Anyway, yes, the two Steves have different styles, but that's OK. If I wanted to hear the songs as they sound on the original albums, I'd listen to the albums. :^)
@radagastbrown9001
@radagastbrown9001 3 жыл бұрын
I would rather see ARW than Yes or even Anderson, Howe, Wakeman.
@jeffschielka7845
@jeffschielka7845 3 жыл бұрын
R.I.P. MR CHRIS SQUIRE🌹🌹🌹
@jamestejada3673
@jamestejada3673 2 жыл бұрын
Now Mr. White.
@jeffschielka7845
@jeffschielka7845 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamestejada3673 😭💔🥁⚘🙏😎
@radagastbrown9001
@radagastbrown9001 3 жыл бұрын
Official YES, is the Steve Howe Band, or YESASIA, which is Yes and Asia combined.
@alanweissaltz6053
@alanweissaltz6053 Жыл бұрын
My oh my what a bunch of children. I love Yes and listen to them at least once a week but I only listen to the 70s music, enough said.
@mvjonsson
@mvjonsson 3 жыл бұрын
Yes RIP. I saw them live 2001 and 2004 and ABWH in 1989.
@danieleggenberger9034
@danieleggenberger9034 3 жыл бұрын
You got the point, man. You say exactly what I think about the current Yes-situation. No chance for a reunion and people should start to accept that.
@beatleswithaz6246
@beatleswithaz6246 3 жыл бұрын
It is very unfortunate that there might not be any substantial Yes reunion, especially for a young fan like me who wasn’t even old enough for the Union tour. I hope Howe and Anderson can get over their differences and make something happen while they can still play.
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
I understand what you mean... if Jon, Rick and Steve could get on the same stage with a solid band again it would be 10x better than the sloppy train wreck that's out there now. Sure, it's not the Yes of old but it would at least have some resemblance to the past and I think you'd enjoy it much more.
@AstralTraveler227
@AstralTraveler227 3 жыл бұрын
Jon Anderson should do exactly what Steve Hackett does, make his own music and tour YES revisited with top notch players like Roine Stolt, Mike Portnoy and other premier Prog musicians!
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment, Ron! Yeah, I think that would be the best option considering Howe doesn't want to work with him. It would have to be something much better and different than what he did with his more recent solo band. Steve Hackett's done a fine job carrying the torch for that era of Genesis and Jon could do it too with the right players.
@schthaxe
@schthaxe 3 жыл бұрын
I think you should consider the times in the late 90th then Anderson was still singing with the band, the Ladder is very good, with Anderson-Squire-Howe-White classic line-up and feeling. For now, I think the best new Yes album is Wobbler - Rites At Dawn (in a way). If you haven't heard it, give it a try - incredible Yes-feeling (I believe they use original Hammond!!).
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
@schthaxe Thanks for the Wobbler recommendation as I hadn't heard it before. I've listened to the first 5 minutes and can already tell it's the best thing Yes never did in the past 3 decades. I think The Ladder benefited from having a producer like Bruce Fairbairn on the scene and has its moments. Would I consider it a "great" Yes album? Not even close. However, thanks for the comment and I'll check out the rest of "Rites".
@schthaxe
@schthaxe 3 жыл бұрын
@@RushTrader oct, 23 Wobbler will release their 5th album. Sounds promising. They KZfaqd their recording sessions, btw.
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
@@schthaxe thanks for the info, will check it out.
@mglenn7092
@mglenn7092 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing that Steve Howe came up with “ownership” of the name, when he isn’t a founding member of the band. But there it is… got to have been bugging him, knowing that Yes Featuring ARW had more original members than Yes (the Steve Howe band). They should all hang it up, as far as Yes is concerned.
@MochaDaisy8645
@MochaDaisy8645 3 жыл бұрын
@RushTrader Was Jeff Beck’s walk-on appearance and brief reunion with Rod Stewart at the end of Rod’s Hollywood Bowl show (almost exactly one year ago) on your radar or do you even care?
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
I love Jeff Beck and Rod's earlier years so I'll have to revisit that, thanks for the reminder!
@arnebroxleirnes418
@arnebroxleirnes418 3 жыл бұрын
I feel that Yes grew and grew up to, and including, "Going For the One". But with the release of "Tormato" the output lost that shimmering quality. It's just the way it goes with just about every band. Sooner or later they just lose momentum - or interest - or each other... What are you gonna do? The truth is that the closest thing to a new great Yes album is Jon Anderson's "1000 Hands". Anderson (and Squire) started the band - anybody interested should listen to him when he says he has eight new suitable Yes songs!
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm surprised by how many love Tormato. To me it just sounds so uninspired, especially compared to GFTO.
@arnebroxleirnes418
@arnebroxleirnes418 3 жыл бұрын
@@RushTrader True - and don't get me started on "Drama"! Has a couple of good pieces on it, but why in the world would they brand it "Yes"? Releasing it under any other name would only have helped the reception.
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
I too think "Drama" should have been the name of the band as they were totally different than Yes with Jon. You change the expectations that way. They became a different band with Trevor and Geoff added. I thought the album had some strong material, particularly "Machine Messiah" and "Does It Really Happen" but when it came to Horn singing Anderson live, it tanked and Horn decided it was better to produce bands, not front them (which has served him very well, by the way.)
@arnebroxleirnes418
@arnebroxleirnes418 3 жыл бұрын
@@RushTrader - Indeed - Trevor Horn is a fantastic producer and did wonders for Frankie Goes To Hollywood and others. "Relax" and "Two Tribes" are very impressive, for example. I still listen to those tracks just for the production! But to substitute Mr Horn for Jon Anderson in Yes - forget it... And to take it on the road - what were they thinking..?
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, I actually did a video about Horn the producer... did you ever see the 2004 Trevor Horn tribute concert? Some nice performances there.
@glevumowl1122
@glevumowl1122 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent summation of the current state of the band(s). Sadly, I have to agree with all the points made. Best to accept that the best is in the past and simply get on and enjoy the old stuff.
@colinmacinnes7978
@colinmacinnes7978 3 жыл бұрын
Has anyone ever told you you resemble a beefer looking Christian Bale? It's extraordinary really. And great channel by the way...
@ProgRockDan1
@ProgRockDan1 3 жыл бұрын
Featured on ProgRock facebook.com/groups/ProgRockDan
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
Dan, thanks for the post!
@georgewilliams4258
@georgewilliams4258 Жыл бұрын
As far as maternal not playing much.Most of Anderson Wakeman Bruford Howe was incredible.
@mirkorussomanno4981
@mirkorussomanno4981 3 жыл бұрын
can you do a deeper thing about Alan White's sad position in that conert.....or tour? what's the reason why they took another drummer on stage?
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
Alan had back surgery a few years ago. He expects to be back playing full shows, we'll see.
@DarioDNA1
@DarioDNA1 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, sad news!
@jongpw50
@jongpw50 Жыл бұрын
Am curious of what you think of the new Yes album. I'm pleasantly surprised how good it is, though still don't see Davision as an appropriate stand in for Anderson.
@MrPYouell
@MrPYouell 3 жыл бұрын
Great points. I feel the same way on 99 percent of your presentation. Only small disagreement is regarding STYX. I think they are still terrific. I really dug The Mission and I have seen many others rate it higher than some of the albums with DeYoung. Yes - enjoy this great music while we can!
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
Peter, thanks for the comment! One thing I've noticed is there's quite a few who really dug "The Mission". I tried listening to it a few times but never got anything out of it. That being said, I do think it's the strongest material they've released in decades and can understand why it's highly regarded.
@dugganclhallrentals2089
@dugganclhallrentals2089 11 ай бұрын
Albeit through their differences, Jon and Chris were the heart of YES. Plain and simple. Steve got on board well after they had started the band; gave them the nudge that Trevor then gave in the 80’s. That’s fine. The politics of this band has been their greatest musical asset and ultimately their demise. This current iteration of YES is not YES. If you disagree, you probably never saw them at their peak and n the 70s…. Peace out.
@lewisfalwell9101
@lewisfalwell9101 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, not likely for a reunion. Chris is gone. Most everyone wants one last good Yes album. Do not think survivors can write it. Egos ...
@justsayin7314
@justsayin7314 3 жыл бұрын
The best chance we have to see more great Yes concerts is that Wakeman and Anderson can talk Trevor Rabin into one last hurrah because ARW was incredible and there is no Yes without Anderson whose voice is unimaginably good for a guy over 70 whose been through what he has. A lot of the magic of Yes songs was the writing duo of Anderson and Howe which unfortunately won’t happen. What could have happened but didn’t was bringing Anderson back in when David left and let Anderson,Howe and Squire write one last album. I’m sure we could have got at least a few more good Yessongs.
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
I bet Squire felt confident the band could continue despite Jon not being there especially with so many other bands like Journey and Foreigner doing so with great success. The problem is, Yes aren't as commercial as those other bands and most Yes fans aren't interested.
@oddiodiscoursemusicchannel6112
@oddiodiscoursemusicchannel6112 2 ай бұрын
The thing that's a little perplexing to me is John Anderson was in the band before Steve.Howe how does that work? Was it John a founding member along with Chris Squire?
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 2 ай бұрын
Jon left Yes in the late 70s and that likely ended his stake in the name. After Jon left, Squire took full control of the name and now that he's gone, it's Howe's baby.
@just82much51
@just82much51 3 жыл бұрын
I saw ARW in 2016 and they were FANTASTIC!!! So glad I saw that show! Sorry that the classes YES will never perform together again, but that's life I guess.
@ACrackInTheWall2006
@ACrackInTheWall2006 3 жыл бұрын
Hey great video RushTrader. I'm really glad I saw Yes when I did back in 2002. They still had the classic line up then and I actually own a copy of that show on 2 CDRs. The Yes now with Steve Howe is nothing more than a cover band and not a very good one. They have no original members. Same thing with Styx.
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! Actually, Styx does have one original member with JY and then there's Chuck but he's been a guest appearance for many years now.
@jpirard
@jpirard 3 жыл бұрын
You really have a hardon against Steve Howe. Maybe you should look at some of Anderson's antics. Anderson kicked out Banks and Kaye.
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
When it comes to Howe, just calling it how I see it. Banks and Kaye were replaced by better musicians in the early days when the band were just getting started.
@davidperry7128
@davidperry7128 3 жыл бұрын
Rubbish. They left and Yes went from strength to strength.
@edguitartorres
@edguitartorres 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone forgets Chris squire didn’t want Jon Anderson back either. Maybe there’s something there that we as fans don’t know about Saint Jon
@tainonative4941
@tainonative4941 3 жыл бұрын
You have been very fair - good commentary - bittersweet ending
@callenclarke371
@callenclarke371 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, Ant. I gotta say...brutally honest. A lot of guys that report on Yes and the other great bands are careful not to offend, and hold back from taking a stand on some of these issues. I always say to myself: yeah, if it were me, I'd just go ahead and say what I really think. But even with that, I was surprised at how frank your commentary was. I've no doubt you've offended some people, including (possibly) some band members. Having said that, I can't honestly say that you're wrong. I'd have to say I pretty much agree, both with your opinions and your conclusions, although I do think there were great albums after 90125. To me, the last great Yes album was Talk. Great songs on the Ladder, Magnification, and Fly from Here, but not solid all the way through. At any rate, thanks for your honesty.
@kevinmorrison1553
@kevinmorrison1553 Жыл бұрын
Sad to see Alan has declined so; I had no idea. He is the drummer I saw in concert as a youngster(Tormato) that made me want to play drums for real. Love Yes, but their drama had always been sucky.
@jlynker
@jlynker 3 жыл бұрын
A Yes fan since CTTE, I hope Steve Howe, when he retires, replaces himself so that Yes can continue, not as a classic cover band but also create new material, true to the genre. I wish they had brought up understudies like Sherwood & Igor.. there are plenty of great musicians and this genre has just broken the surface.
@davidbodemann7994
@davidbodemann7994 Жыл бұрын
Here’s the thing. I saw yes in 2002. We had all our favorites playing except for bill Bruford, Steve Howe technically can’t play like he did back then however, the vibe in that place was very cold. I saw them a second time last November in Westbury, Long Island, Steve how was the only common denominator. Technically, Steve Howe does not play like he used to. Technically, Jeff Downs does not play like Rick Wakeman or like Patrick Moraz, or like Igor koroshev. but I will tell you I enjoyed the recent concert much more than I did the one in 2002. There was a great camaraderie there and
@davidbodemann7994
@davidbodemann7994 Жыл бұрын
They sounded like yes. The audience reaction was great.
@anthonydblackmore
@anthonydblackmore 3 жыл бұрын
Yes should have called it quits after the Magnification album.
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
That album had some nice moments and hard to believe it's been nearly 20 years since the last Yes studio album with Jon Anderson.
@anthonydblackmore
@anthonydblackmore 3 жыл бұрын
@@RushTrader The last truly original Yes album. Whilst I did enjoy "Fly From Here" it is really a reworked Buggles album with a few token Yes-like tracks. Please don't mention that later album....trying to forget that it ever existed.
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
I'm one of those who thought "Drama" should have been the name of a new band rather than a Yes album without Jon, perhaps without those expectations it would have been better received. That being said, I thought FFH sounded more like a side-project than a bona-fide Yes album.
@davidperry7128
@davidperry7128 3 жыл бұрын
They did, just no-one told SH
@Face-bz6il
@Face-bz6il 3 жыл бұрын
It's sad really because Yes proper is not Steve Howe's Yes Revisited. Jon Anderson might as well do the eight tracks he has for ARW or Yes Revisited and put it under a solo album titled: This is Yes!!! You have a good point about Chris being the go between in the band. To be honest with you when Chris passed away I was afraid this Yes thing was going to happen and to me it shows that certain band members are trying to squeeze everything out of Yes (product). Sort of like all those best of and live albums.
@mrbrianmccarthy
@mrbrianmccarthy Жыл бұрын
Here's the line up I would love to see----Anderson, Wakeman, Howe, Geddy lee on Bass and a new drummer(Bruford would be the optimum, but he's retired) That would be a Yes band I would pay to see.
@alanweissaltz6053
@alanweissaltz6053 Жыл бұрын
I would definitely go with magnification over the ladder
@radagastbrown9001
@radagastbrown9001 3 жыл бұрын
Please do not mention Styx in the same sentence with YES.
@fernandogarajalde4066
@fernandogarajalde4066 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis! I’d rather everyone just stay retired and work on enhanced resolutions of their old catalog. Nothing sadder to me than paying to see a bunch of angry old men arguing onstage with the audience. We have our memories of a happier time, let the old men relax and enjoy a life well lived while there’s still time.
@septoberenergy6542
@septoberenergy6542 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your incisive and honest commentary on Yes. I agree 100% with your assessment of the situation. It's very sad that these guys couldn't get past their own egos and greed and get along for one more really good tour and/or album, but now that Squire is gone and White is really in no shape to play, I really do think that ship has sailed. I did see The Steve Howe Band in 2019, and the setlist was epic, but Jon was right. They really weren't that good. Howe performed well, and Billy Sherwood did a very admirable job of handling Squire's parts, but overall the performance was sloppy, especially in the keyboard department. I am glad I saw them one last time, but I'm not sure I'd pay today's ticket prices to do it again. :-(
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for watching and for your comments, much appreciated!
@radagastbrown9001
@radagastbrown9001 3 жыл бұрын
To say they have not made anything good since UNION is outrageous.
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
Well, I didn't really put it like that... I said they haven't made any great albums since 90125. Of course, that's only my opinion but, for me, after 90125 I never enjoyed another album of theirs in it's entirety.
@fenderstratocastertelecast8479
@fenderstratocastertelecast8479 3 жыл бұрын
The bad vibe beetween howe and rabin started with Asia... Look up for a song named "starry eyes" which later became as "only time will tell" at the very beginning of that supergroup kzfaq.info/get/bejne/npddf9mhvqvSnnk.html
@ruthierochesterNY
@ruthierochesterNY 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you re:Yes. As much as I would love to see Anderson, Wakeman and Howe I don’t see it happening. I enjoy the new stuff from Wakeman but I also understand his situation personally. Jon Anderson will always bring me music that touches my heart and more. As much as I think Steve Howe is an ass I do think he can play well. I just finished Steve Howe’s autobiography. Interesting and not very surprising after following YES and the individual musicians since the day Fragile came out.
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
Ruthie, thanks so much for the comment! I don't see Anderson/Howe doing anything and that's a shame.
@jamesbrady2278
@jamesbrady2278 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I love this band saw about 15 times I’m 66 years old I saw a rush about six times both of these bands are in the rock ‘n’ roll Hall of Fame and members of rush say they were heavily influenced by yes and Emerson Lake and Palmer and yet they’re not in the rock ‘n’ roll Hall of Fame think about that for a minute
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
True, then again, I think the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has become so watered down it's like who cares who gets in at this point. When Biggie Smalls, Madonna and Tupac get into a rock and roll institution before ELP and so many deserving others, it makes it much less important in my view.
@philholding6905
@philholding6905 2 жыл бұрын
My musical wish would be for Yes ( Jon Anderson, Rick, Steve and Bill Bruford, with a bass player to cover for Chris ( rest his soul), to make one last album at equals the old stuff. you all know what I'm talking about ( Tales, Fragile , The Yes album, Going for the One, Relayer, etc etc, and best of all, Close to the Edge). I must have spent a 10th of my life listening to Yes, time well spent, and I want to listen to another new epic before I meet my maker.
@silentwings7830
@silentwings7830 3 жыл бұрын
I'm quite happy with the way Yes is now. Lots of variety in the setlist, lots of energy from the new guys. Plus Jon Anderson is doing quite well on his own. 1000 Hands album and tour was excellent. He would not be able to do that if he were in Yes, and most likely would not be able to stand the rigors of a long tour. The last ARW tour was only 10 dates.
@rickthoma6428
@rickthoma6428 Жыл бұрын
No Jon,no Yes.
@ShaNaNa242
@ShaNaNa242 Жыл бұрын
RIP Chris Squire, Peter Banks, and Alan White
@davidcarlin3850
@davidcarlin3850 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tony. Agree one of the main mechanisms of YES was Chris Squire making things happen behind the scenes. Also wondering if we can have some sort of discussion on who the actual owners of the YES name are. It seems White and Howe are in the drivers seat now but Anderson owns a different entity and still part owner of a separate one. I think it’s all about Money. Would like your take on Steve Howe’s biography. Steve discusses Jon asking for a load of money upon his return from his respiratory illness and Steve mentioned they didn’t want to go that route. Interesting
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment David. Yeah, I was wondering that myself recently, who owns what with regards to the Yes brand, etc.? You should check out what kind of deal Steve Perry got from his Journey exit, wow did he make out or what? I'll probably be discussing this at some point. Also, I need to read Steve's book. I've heard some say it's awful but may be worth the read to get his take on certain things. I'll check into it.
@MrDcseltzer
@MrDcseltzer 3 жыл бұрын
@@RushTrader The Steve Perry deal would be another great video especially after they fired Smith and Valory. According to what I read, Their former manager Herbie Herbert and Perry gave their blessing on Smith's and Valory's attempt to secure more funds after they would retire. I think Cain and Schon may have totally overblown the issue according to Valory who has countersued. This would be an interesting discussion indeed. Looking forward to your take on all of this. :)
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
@MrDcseltzer Thanks for the input. Funny you mention this because I'm working on a Journey video now which will include this topic and something else I thought would be fun to do.
@MrDcseltzer
@MrDcseltzer 3 жыл бұрын
@@RushTrader Looking forward to it :)
@mikewilson7833
@mikewilson7833 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed ARW live and they ALL enjoyed it too - just watch one of the '50 years' concerts to see what I mean! If Trevor Rabin would do it I'm sure the other guys would be in .. I live in hope!!
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
Mike thanks for the comment. Yes, I can tell you live in hope! I think there's a better chance of ARW doing something than a Yes reunion of any kind. Considering we still have Steve, Jon and Rick, if they all still had their shit together, they could round out the band with amazing musicians and still command large tours. Instead, well you know how it is...
@awrogers3013
@awrogers3013 Жыл бұрын
Why don’t we do an assholes club of music: Mike Love, Steve Howe, Richie Blackmore, There’s more
@RushTrader
@RushTrader Жыл бұрын
You may have something here... the assholes of rock. I could see a video about that...we'll see.
@feistybastard
@feistybastard 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, is Anderson, Howe, Bruford, Wakeman, Squire. Trevor Rabin and the rest of them make up a different band ... like Asia or something. After Fragile, the band peaked with Close To The Edge, and after that it was a slow and steady decline, with ever-changing members, sound, etc. They never peaked again. They had pop success, but artistically they never topped Close To The Edge. Bruford's comments on that album really show you inside working with these guys. It was tedious, laborious and totally self-indulgent. As Bruford said, he/they did their best work on Close To... but it came at a horrible cost. I mean, Bruford literally falling asleep in the control room while Squire fiddled with his bass sound only to wake up an hour later to find Chris STILL playing with the same two knobs. Hell, I am not surprised Bill left screaming. Could only imagine how mind-numbingly annoying sessions with Squire and Howe must've been and if it colored their relationships in later years. Don't reunite, please stay away. I don't like reunions unless the bands still have something to offer and can still play. Putting a bunch of old men on stage hoping they're going to capture something they had 45 years ago is really more about denial than anything. It's sad. Let these guys age gracefully and enjoy their later years.
@1pointone2
@1pointone2 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. For my money they could have shut the Yes train down after Bruford left. There were precious few jewels after '72 (Turn of the Century being one). RIP Yes.
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
@FeistyBastard Very well said. Bruford has always been one to never stay too long with any one project so his time in Yes was always going to be limited. Based on interviews I've seen with various members, there were lots of personality quirks to overcome in addition to creative differences which fueled Yes so I can't imagine they were a fun bunch to work with. I recently read this interview with Jonathan Elias, who produced Union. He couldn't believe how dysfunctional they were as a band, which is why he had to get other musicians to play on the album to flesh it out. As a result, he said he really doesn't think much of the band anymore. Anyways, thanks again for the comment!
@rachelbrooks1550
@rachelbrooks1550 Жыл бұрын
Now you don’t have Alan at all, RIP Peter, Chris & Alan.
@SeekTruthinLight
@SeekTruthinLight 3 жыл бұрын
They do need to realize what time it is, time to do what they do great while they can. If they play- they will come. If they get into the studio- great music will flow the tide of sales. Steve is right, in part, there is enough space to each do what they want to do- together though, and fans will always be there to listen, but I think his bitter spirit of error has effected them in error to think in error but for Anderson lately who humbly has the right attitude to make it happen. And I get the logistics part, with them all having responsibilities, living in different parts of the world, having made other plans sololy; but surely they can block out a couple months to do as they have before; work together in the spirit of Yes music, even in the spirit of Chris Squire, the spiritual glue that held them together, making an album of honoring the members and the fans who went along for the ride- and all who made it possible, even to tie loose ends, in the creative process. But we do see those members comments in the media, from time to time, some, perhaps, to feel out the mindset of the other members, but the feed back is usually grim, that of cynical error in spirit unrest they are holding onto from the past, while we always have hope, as fans, to see them get together again, to do what they do, as great musicians. In any event we don't hold retiring against them- we still have the great music of that day and more.. ---And In closing, I'm reminded of the words of Bill and Ted: "Be excellent to one another"- and JAM on dudes!
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to comment!
@terryjohnson5275
@terryjohnson5275 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure there is any real point in a re-union - As Jon Anderson says the current Yes is great just not THAT great and until they release a killer album (Fly from Here was close but it included Trevor Horn and Jon Davison wasnt with them yet and Heaven and Earth - I like it but it does reside in the bottom quarter of my favourite Yes Albums, whihc is a real shame seeing as it was the last ever Chris album) I dont think they'll ever be seen by a lot of Yes fans as anything other than a cover band though - even with getting past members to join them now and again - and even if they did record a stone cold classic a lot of Anderson fans just wouldnt go with it simply because he's not there and neither is Chris. Perhps we should just just go back to and cherish the Tsongas DVD, the ABWH DVD, Yessongs and Yes at QPR - oh and nearly forgot Yes Union, Symphonic and 9012 live but perhaps not House of Yes. If Jon Anderson was to get back with them I feel it would have to really be a one off event to play all the classics and maybe one or two hidden gems (how about side 2 of Topographic Oceans:) ), get it recorded (without added audience noise !!!) on DVD and CD and let that be it.
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
Your comment reminds me of all the great live shows Yes have released over the years. As you mentioned, I'd rather see those older shows that what Yes has devolved into.
@YesTalk69
@YesTalk69 Жыл бұрын
I always thought that Trevor was the issue. I saw the Union Tour Live in MSG, it was incredible! I got the box set later, I heard And you and I and thought it was do much more soulful than the"Maestro". My favorite moment on the concert dvd is when Steve looks up and looks freaked out when Trevor hits the ching, ching on Yours is no discgace!
@YesTalk69
@YesTalk69 Жыл бұрын
ABWH with Toni Levin was tremendous!
@YesTalk69
@YesTalk69 Жыл бұрын
RIP Chris and Alan.😢
@YesTalk69
@YesTalk69 Жыл бұрын
I also saw the Talk tour in Reno Tony Kaye was tremendous!
@YesTalk69
@YesTalk69 Жыл бұрын
I also saw the Ladder tour with Igor Koreshev. He was tremendous, and very faithful to Rick Wakeman's solo's.
@YesTalk69
@YesTalk69 Жыл бұрын
Yes live at the House of Blues is a great concert'
@Spock105
@Spock105 3 жыл бұрын
Number 6 : Yes sacked Oliver Wakeman in an odd way and replaced him with Geoff . His words : - Do you feel bitter about the way your songwriting went into YES after you were asked to leave the band? Yeah, it was difficult. We started talking about the album in 2009, and in 2010 we went to Phoenix, Arizona, to write and came up with some really, really good music. But what happened was, when we went to the studio and started recording, Trevor Horn came in to record and he had an idea about the album and wanted to do one of his old songs - an old song he’d worked on with Geoff Downes - and I wasn’t very keen on this. I thought, “Well, we should be doing new music. We shouldn’t be doing a song that’s twenty. We should be doing the stuff that we had worked out, the stuff we’re going to write or work on together”. But we did this song, and then he said, “Oh, I’ve written another part that goes with it, with it”, and so they wanted to do that song, so Geoff was involved in that one. And then I think Trevor decided that there was more and more songs that they had written that matched with “We Can Fly From Here”, and he wanted to do the album like this and wanted Geoff to play the keyboards on it and write it. That just got to the point where Trevor had come up with so much of the music with Geoff and wanted him in the band, which wasn’t very good for me. But that’s the decision they made. - And how did you react to this on a personal level? I mean you know Chris Squire, Steve Howe and Alan White from your very childhood and they were like family to you… I felt terrible! (Laughs dryly.) I felt really bad, because I wasn’t expecting it. Trevor went away for four weeks, and we carried on recording, and then we went on tour together for three weeks, and then we all said goodbye at the airport and said, “See you in three-week time”. So I went home and I had Christmas. I was due to go out back in January, when the tour manager phoned me up and said, “Oh, your plane ticket is delayed by a week, because Trevor wants to do one more song with Geoff”. I said, “Well, OK”, and I phoned him up again a week later, and he said all had been delayed for another week. I was not very happy, but I thought, “If Trevor wants Geoff on those two tracks, then Trevor will have Geoff on those two tracks”. I phoned again, and somebody said to me, “You’re out of the band”. And that was it: my ticket was cancelled, and I wasn’t involved with it anymore. They just decided that they were going to follow the route that Trevor was setting up for them, so that’s the route that they went. It was a shame, but that’s the decision they made as a band. But it wasn’t easy. Number 7 : Fly from here Return trip : check the black and white picture with the band ; they photoshopped it by replacing Benoit by Trevor Horn , speaking of a real stab in the back and unbelievable that this could ever have happened in any band. Number 8 : It is all about money money money. One thing they almost never talk about. On a personal level : I have seen and met the band with Wakeman and Anderson and it was great . With Benoit it was good . With the new Anderson and exit Chris : the playing is slower , less magic , less aura . And I have seen and met ARW : good , people who know how to smile and stay Pro , bottomline : rather have a drink with ARW than YES. Would I like to see a reunion : NO - because it would be forced to much .......and Time is relentless in showing reality .
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to comment! So basically, it sounds like Yes just treated Oliver and Benoit like expendables. In last years Rolling Stone interview, Rick talked a little bit about Oliver's experience in Yes and warned him ahead of time about how fucked they can be. Sadly, Oliver learned that lesson. Oliver would have been the perfect replacement for Wakeman in Yes and certainly miles beyond Downes.
@Spock105
@Spock105 3 жыл бұрын
@@RushTrader I think the lastest album " From a Page " ( rather more an EP ) is kind of an apology to what happened .
@BobCescaShow
@BobCescaShow 3 жыл бұрын
I agree it'll be next to impossible to reunite Jon and Steve. But I take issue with the notion that Yes hasn't created any great music since Union or 90125 or the 1970s. There are a number of outstanding tracks on Talk, Keys 1 and 2, The Ladder, Magnification. Even Fly From Here has a beautifully arranged and performed title epic. It's this kind of exclusionary attitude that causes the band (in whatever form) to lean so heavily on the crowd-pleasing 70s classics rather than doing what Rush used to do, which is to lend credibility to newer material by actually playing it live on successive tours. For fans of a progressive band, which is mean to, y'know, progress, Yes enthusiasts are awfully stuck in one or two eras.
@RushTrader
@RushTrader 3 жыл бұрын
Bob, thanks for the comment. As mentioned in the video, Yes may have done some great songs here and there but I don't believe they made another great, solid album after 90125. Of course, that's only my opinion and there's many who disagree. I think in the later years Yes suffered from a lack of direction, cohesion and having a great producer to pull things together and keep everyone focused. Unlike Rush, Yes was run more like a corporation with people coming in and out, lots of compromises and questionable business decisions that ultimately saw the overall music suffer. As for Rush, their integrity was reflected in their music right up to the end which resonated with fans and why they wanted to see the newer stuff performed live. Sure, not everything was great but they didn't have the same pitfalls as Yes when it came to lineup changes, poor managerial decisions, etc. which, I believe, impaired the music they created.
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