And if you only need a car to travel from time to time, then you should buy a Delorean with a flux capacitor.

You're the reason why i'm still loving to learn about mechanical engineering, especially automotive engineering

The math only stacks up in the US where petrol is sold as cheap as water. In the EU for instance, electric has a major lifetime running cost advantage.

What keeps me from getting into purely electric cars is that I live in an apartment building. I am on the 3rd floor, facing away from an open air parking lot. There are no electrical outlets near the parking lot, and I'm not going to dangle a 300ft cord from my apartment window to the parking lot just to have some other tenant unplug my car cause he wanted a giggle. I also wouldn't be able to charge my car at work because they don't have electrical access on the outside of the building. They also refuse to put in electric car chargers because not enough (literally 0) employees have electric cars to justify it. Not to be that guy, but I refuse to sit and babysit my car for hours at a charging/fuel station just to make sure I have enough juice for a couple days. Being on the poorer side makes electric only vehicles almost impossible to realistically own. For some people it's not a problem, and they have the ability to work around lack of charging support in their lives. For me, it's not practical until the infrastructure improves around me.

Apparently, Progressive only had one requirement for this video... No whiteboard.😁

For me, and probably many other young people the problem is we haven't settled for a long term house/apartment to install Level 2 chargers in.

Always appreciate an objective look, thank you!

Finally, a balanced objective and fair representation of the difference between owning an EV or ICE car, thank you

Timestamps: 1. Cost 0:40 2. Convenience 3:53 3. Charging 6:32 4. Driving 8:17 5. Environment 10:05

$2 a gallon??? It's almost $2 a litre in the UK give or take...

Thanks for making this video. I really appreciate the great non biased information!

I was a traditional car enthusiast that only would support combustion cars until my girlfriend got her plug in hybrid (15 Ford Fusion Energi) and now can see what's so great about electric cars. My next daily driver car is undoubtedly going to be electric in some fashion.

$500 to install an 220 outlet NEXT to the panel? As an electrician, I am in the wrong area of the country to earn a buck.

I think the more relevant question to ask in many cases would be "Should I buy a new(er) car?". And if you don't drive much, the answer is no. At least if what you have is reliable.

Nice to see someone local doing great content on KZfaq.

i really like that you tell us both the negatives and positives because there is nothing perfect :)

You’re the reason I’m going back to school to learn more.

Great vid. Who woulda thought, some of the most well rounded advice around EV and ICE is from a guy who’s a an actual car enthusiast

Great video, thank you!

Great Tips Good Stuff Very Clear Understanding 👍 Thanks!

We bought our Model 3 in September 2019. Within a week I realized the massive convenience factor. I leave my garage every day with the equivalent of a full tank. Our other car is a 2019 Volvo XC90. In the 12 months of owning both we put 16,000 miles on the Tesla and about 5,000 on the Volvo. When the Volvo lease is up in November of 2021 it will turn into a Model Y and we'll be 2 EV home. We live at 8,000 feet above sea level in the Colorado Rockies....winter is not an issue.

“You should never spend money for less convenience” But also Miata :D

Excellent video, very fair and quite detailed.

220v (level2) is a super easy install, especially if you already have an electric dryer or stove. You can plug in directly to those outlets if you buy a charger off Amazon or Ebay. About 150 to $300 USD.

Yes, yes and yes. I basically have the "cheap" version of Jason's stable: an e-Golf (bought new 6 months ago) and an Na8 Miata (and my girlfriend has a Civic). The Miata may be the fun car, but the e-Golf is also a pretty fun vehicle, thanks to instant torque and the Golf chassis. I have often read that an electric car can only be a second vehicle because of the limited range. In actuality, it really is the first car as the cost of operation, comfort and convenience are the best. I never even used the rapid charger and I don't even plan to. I bought the car knowing full well its pros and cons and I knew that for longer distances, we would simply use the Civic. But for suburban driving, even the errands to go to the other side of town (up to 100 km in total), the Golf is the way to go. If we ever need to change the Civic for a bigger vehicle, a RAV4 prime would be high on the shopping list. As for noise, let's be real: most cars on the road don't even sound good. If you drive a Mustang GT as your daily, good for you, but if your daily is a Corolla, Civic, Mazda 3, etc, you won't miss the noise, but you will enjoy the absence of vibrations. As for shifting gears, yes, a good manual is fun, but one-pedal driving is just another kind of fun that is also legitimate.

5 reasons why I'm gonna stick to my 96 Accord until it disintegrates.

"Let's assume both cars are trouble free for 4 years" you shouldn't have used a VW for this example then

Well done Jason. Your videos are well thought out, clear, and explain everything well. No wonder you have 2.82M susscribers. Wonderful! PS As a fellow Canuck, I loved your videos with The StraightPipes' Jacob and Yuri.

I've got a 2017 Chev Volt, my boss has a model X Tesla, and my daughters friend has a Chevy Bolt. My second vehicle is a new Nissan Frontier pickup. I'm only charging the Volt on 120V and I'm at around 80% electric. (It has a 53 mile electric range before going to gasoline.) Most of the EV miles are local, and the gas miles are on a road trip. My boss uses his Tesla a lot around town, but uses his gasoline SUV when doing road trips. My daughters friend only has the Bolt, and attends local college, so he's fine with an EV. FYI - when I road trip, I usually rent a cheap sedan so I don't put tons of miles on my vehicles and my insurance gives me a break for low miles. I'm hoping more and more people go EV, so gas stays cheap when I have to drive my pickup. Lots of choices in vehicles out there!!!

Also, I was at Bryce Canyon and Zion this summer-both of which are way off the beaten path-and lots of Teslas were at those parks. I’m not sure how convenient charging was, but it surely didn’t stop folks from using electric cars way out in the country!

Excellent video, very informative.

Interesting. Thank you for giving the Pros and Cons of both. I also enjoyed the throwback Bogus Basin Rd footage ;)

Thanks for a clear, concise breakdown of the pros and cons of EV's. No EV fanboy swooning, and no V8 (Because 'Murica) nonsense, either. EV acceptance will boil down to infrastructure and EV density in a particular area for those that require that infrastructure to operate their EV's. Where I am, the nasty winters really eat into range, and charging stations are fewer. When I retire in a couple years to the USA Southwest, I will definitely be in an EV for daily use with a gas-fed toy or two for the joy of shifting. Solar panels on the roof are part of that plan as well, and will lessen the footprint even more.

Great video, thanks! I would like to see more information on the manufacturing / total carbon footprint of ICE vs EV, emissions is only one environmental component.

I still remember your drifting video...come a long way..very very proud

Same here, I have been enjoying your videos for as long as I have been able to understand technical english, and even tho I study medicine, I love learning about engineering, because of you!

No whiteboard? Dislike (I kid I kid. Just joking, I'd never dislike EE).

Just the electricity used in the refinery to produce a gallon of gas is about 7 kwh. This is always produced by the cheapest way possible. Over 90% of the time this is coal and onsite at the refinery. That is typically more electricity than an EV uses to drive 30+ miles.

As someone who is seeking to have both vehicles this video was very helpful for beginners thank you

Very informative.

Regarding the "EV's run on coal" argument, the nice thing with EV's is that when you upgrade the grid to use more gas/hydro/solar/wind/nuclear power you automatically upgrade all the vehicles charging off it at no cost to the consumer. With ICE doesn't matter what you do with the grid ICE still pollutes exactly the same.

Great video, as always. One small request: Can you include Canada as much as possible when giving information about the USA so as to cover all of North America? That also means adding metric units, but that's a good thing anyway. Thanks!

I know this may seem a bit random, but the results could optimise high-performance naturally-asperated engines: what do you think the optimal bore/stroke ratio for redline is? As in; regarding said ratio, what's the widest the cylinder bore could be for any given piston stroke length without reducing redline from the increased reciprocating mass of the piston heads? It's fine if you don't think that it's something you could figure out. It's just being in my mind for a why. And regardless, take care...

Please make a video based on the production and disposal of the batteries used for these cars. That would change this video greatly Keep the great content up!

Living in Canada I’ve always wondered what the batteries would be like in our constant -30C weather.

Thank you very much for making this video. I appreciate the excellent, non-biased information! As someone who has had an EV, I can attest to how inconvenient they are in comparison to full hybrids and ICE vehicles. Yes, maintenance is less expensive, but repair charges can be prohibitively expensive if the broken component is not covered by warranty.

A really great EV Video simply packed with information pro and con EV’s in different circumstances; ie not simply ‘guns-ho’ for EV’s in every situation, which many YT reviewers take as read. Excellent. Thanks.

Interesting factors to consider. Informative.

Nice summary. We are taking our Tesla to the north rim of the grand canyon in a few days. Plenty of chargers along the way, and hotels with chargers.

We're a single car household and our pure EV works perfectly for us, we do have a home EVSE though. Rapid charging on journeys is actually quite fun.

I love your videos and theyre almost always very informative but i play them to sleep sometimes.

Luv it! Good way to sum it all up about electric cars... and this is exactly why I luv my Internal Combustion Engine car. Still the best... for my specific needs.

i been researching the subject for years and i have to say this is a very good video.

Great discussion. Would love to hear your thoughts on the cost & environmental comparison IC vs electric if u include the petroleum and battery (rare earth metals) procurement and battery disposal or recycling. Not an easy task but important as well. Keep up the interesting videos!

This should be EV 101. This is the best pro and con conversation that I've seen, and it's all at a level anyone can understand. Okay, maybe you've glossed over the long distance, point-to-point a bit, but you have the supercharger network. My Bolt would not travel as well (but we have a PHEV as well). Great vid!

Good info

I think it's only fair to tell you that you're one of the reasons I'm studying Automotive Engineering today.

One thing worth mentioning, petrol cars are more fuel efficient when driving on the highway (higher speeds), but electric cars are the other way around (as their engine revs way higher on highway, electric cars not having a gear box). Also, some other points to take into view: scarcity of the materials used in batteries (and the way they are mined), also the grid would probably just collapse, if everyone would suddenly switch to an electric car.

Always informative! Are you accounting for emissions from power plants?

Is it possible to do a series on recycling of electric car batteries? I'm not sure how much info is out there, but it would be nice to know what happens at the end of the lifecycle of them and what kind of impact that might have as well! Hopefully battery technology improves to the point where recycling is possible/much easier where we don't have to manufacture new batteries, but refurbish old ones.

Great job! All those things plus 0-60 in an EV is second to none

Bought a '16 Volt 2 years ago, this sounded a lot like me convincing my wife why it was a great idea.. ;) Still love the Volt too..

I would like to hear your assessment of a PHEV. I'm particularly interested in the situation where someone uses electric for around town driving, only rarely using the ICE for longer drives. How would this affect the servicing requirements, particularly oil change interval? Question raised in my mind due to reading a report on usage patterns of PHEV vehicles.

Jason, what car lift/jack do you use? Looking for something for a small 2 car garage for usual oil change, tire rotation maintenance. Thanks!

I really like the idea of a plug in, so I can charge it at night and drive short distances on ev mode and go ice for the longer distances, also better for the engine since using it for short distances is not what they really like

Don't buy electric vehicle because it's not a Toyota Celica.

This is a great channel I'm subscribed to, but you know what this channel needs? MOTORCYCLES!

I own 01 integra 400 miles to a tank 2017 altima 600 miles to the tank. I'm good. Love what I've learned tho so thank you EE

I am personally excited about extended range plug in hybrids. This seems smart for people who enjoy traveling off the beaten paths, but who also want to lower emissions. The Jeep Wrangler 4xe, the F150 hybrid, and other vehicles like these make a lot of sense. I love the idea of being able to commute on electric, but have the engine ready to kick in when I want to explore or for long trips. One day I'm sure electric technology will advance to the point where range won't be much of an issue, but that day is not today. ICEs still have a place until then.

Went from a Subaru WRX to a Tesla model 3 SR+ and no regrets! Love my model 3, but I can see why electric is not for everyone! My weekly commute is about 200 miles and when I get home I just charge it in my garage! When I take a longer road trip a have a Tesla charging station 10 minutes from my house at a mall, so I need to charge up quicker I leave the car there for 20 minutes while I walk around the mall.

Damn, an actual, honest look at ICE vs EV. Congrats.

my wife has a ford cmax energi, works great for me as i get to work on all electric. when i go home it switches back and forth to electric and gas. when i jump on the freeway its ok, usually wastes more gas. i only have to fill up once a month and get like 500+ miles empg and mpg

7:04 level 2 charger installation in older homes may not be possible without upgrading the breaker box greatly multiplying the cost.

I agree with you! It's all about convenience! I drive a 3 cylinder gas car, I took a road trip from the Midwest to FL, and I drove 1,250 miles. I paid no more than $64 for gas plus I still have a half of a tank in the car. It took me 18 hours for the trip. If I had an electric car it would of taken about 24 hours per Tesla's charging guide. If I had to pay for electric, per Telsa cost calculation it would cost me $97.

Could you do a video on the Czinger 21C? Maybe something about topology optimization?

Can you make a video on Hyundai's iMT (Manual transmission without a clutch pedal)

Plus, as you mentioned in some of your other videos, EVs are much more responsive to the accelerator pedal than guzzle-line cars. When my Prius Prime switches over to gas, I have to consciously remember that stepping on the gas pedal will be laggy, whereas, in EV mode, it feels like the entire drive train is sliding on teflon (well, other than the tires on the road!).

Here in norway there is no doubt that electric is the way to go. They are cheaper, electricity is way cheaper then fuel with an avarge price of 1,5$ pr liter and they can drive in bus lanes. There are more benefits other then that aswell.

gas is $3.70 right now in LA area. We also had episodes of electricity outage...

great vid

For charging, it is also worth considering charging stations at places like grocery stores. For the stores with fast chargers, you can do pretty well while you're doing something you might do anyway. Sometimes with a better parking spot than you would otherwise have. Some stores have free level 2 charging as well. Which lessens the pain of not having charging in an apartment.

So far I've done about 1 year and over 20 000 miles on an EV as my only car, and I would like to point out, that a lot of the things Jason lists are very relevant but also case dependent. If you live outside the US do your own calculations. Gasoline is ridiculously cheap in the US compared to the EU for instance, which tilts the cost analysis for the benefit of the EV. As for road trips, this summer did my first 2000 mile EV Road trip and I loved how cheap it was to drive as well as the convenience of sleeping in the car with the aircon on through the night. But here in Finland we have a very good charging network so I can drive just about wherever I feel like. Again, do your study on how good it is where you live. How about business trips? At some point you'll have to stop for lunch or dinner, and that is when you plug in. Some 30 minutes of charging will take you far on fast chargers. One tip I do have if you consider an EV - range is king. Consider how often you drive long trips and size your battery accordingly. Finally, there are a few reasons I would go back to ICE. One is for the sound that a nice sports car makes. Another is for the handling and steering feedback, which is often considerably worse on EV's. Third reason is for towing. While the torque of the EV is great, you can't beat the fact that the ICE engine gets only more effective when you load it more so your relative mileage is actually often improved (when looking at consumed fuel / cargo weight that is moved around), where an ev will lose a significant portion of its range. And in many cases there might be no towing option for it at all.

love my m3, used to charge it twice a week from my home from just a normal 110v outlet. Since covid, I just charge it once a week. Haven't been to a gas station in almost two years...

Living in north dakota, with the ghetto walmart being 45 miles and the nice one being 80 miles the other way, you still have to keep in mind that in winter if you crash and get stuck when its -50 you have to stay in the car and stay warm or you will for sure die or get frostbite. How long can an electric car sit under these conditions and stay safe? Keep in mind even the closer one of 45 miles that sometimes it can still take hours before someone gets to you.

For me the test drive was decisive. Loved how electric vehicle drive, so got one. A "cheap" one, of course, but one nonetheless. Good points in the video though.

Well for us, we went to a BMW i3 about 4 years ago. It cost more, it's the only car in the household and we sometimes need to do long trips to see family so it was primarily point 5 (Environment) that caused us to make the switch. I haven't burnt anything in the last 4 years and I've loved every trip as it's great fun to drive. I'm an ex-petrol head and bought my first VW Beetle at age 12, so I've always been fascinated by cars in many forms.

I get 45 miles per hour charge on a 75 amp breaker 220 Level 2 using the Tesla Wall connector

What about energy cost/mile when using supercharging? I've read at least one story that suggests it outstrips the cost of gasoline in many places.

This is like the ultimate guide for shoppers looking to upgrade. Amazing detail and coverage.

I'm a petrol head, but not having to stop at gas stations would save me not only time, but also stop me from impulse buying slim jims... Yep...

As a Crosstrek lover, I just have to give you major points for the awesome blue Trek ;) I have a question for small battery PHEV vehicles. Is it still really hard on the battery lifetime to charge more than once a day if you are staying between 20-80% of the battery's upper and lower charge limits? In other words, is the degredation just because charge is being removed and added, or is it really full depletion and charging to 100% frequently that leads to more degredation over time? Thanks!

Drove my Chevy Bolt 1000 miles moving from Texas to Florida, no problem if it's a rare trip. Every other day of the year, being able to charge at home is SO much better than going to the gas station every week or two

I’d be curious about the environment impact of used car batteries and how that’s managed. ICE can be melted down and remade. What do they do with used car batteries? Thank you for your videos

In regards to resistance heating reducing range in electric cars, it's worth pointing out that the Model Y uses a much more efficient heat pump system (which I know you know, as you did a video on it), and thus doesn't suffer much of a penalty from operating in cold weather, especially if you have it plugged in and set a departure time, which allows it to prep the battery for maximum efficiency, if I'm not mistaken.

I've been looking into the EVs for a few weeks...just found this channel. Lots of good information! Valuable! But what is the advantage of an electric pick-up truck?

Very thorough comparison. Greatly appreciate the review!

Glad to see that EVs are improving. However, there is one quibble I have in comparing an EV to ICE: the overall life of the vehicle. A well-engineered and properly maintained ICE vehicle can remain functional for multiple decades. Many EVs I'm seeing need total battery replacement around the 10 or 15 year mark. Given the bulk of the EV's emissions cost overall stems from the resources and energy required to build those battery packs, this means the lower emissions in the back end is canceled out as you need to make more batteries (or entirely new vehicles) to replace those that are ending their service lives. Obviously, this will improve with better engineering, technology, and developing methods to recycle the various components, but for now I'm sticking to ICE.

I love my BoltEV. Charge for free off my excess solar power. Blows by all the cars and pickups driving around slow trying to get better milage....

What website were you using to look up the electricity sources by state?

Hi, can you please make a video about car hood air intake system? As in the types, the aerodynamics, the pros and cons of engine hood ventilation. Yes you did make a video about cold air intake, but I hope you can focus on the hood ventilation and hood air intakes engineering. Thanks by the way.