Some people have a hard time understanding that it’s not all about speed lmao

5 things I really hate about a AE86 1. I don’t own one 2. I don’t own one 3. I don’t own one 4. I don’t own one 5. I don’t own one

Man you'd go crazy if you saw my 86 in the early 2010's. Red panda GTS hatch, all stock, interior red panels all clean, no cracks on dash, fully functional AC. That was my first car, my favorite car. Unfortunately around 2013 I went through some rough financial times and had no choice but to sell it... I sold it for $5500. Shoot me. Today I make decent money, I have a GT86 to daily and a custom built turbo MRS (10s car) for fun. I've driven s2000s, STIs, every gen MR2, Corvettes, you name it. To this day nothing compares, I would give anything to be in my old 86 banging gears with the TVIS activated engine screaming feeling like a bat out of hell as a prius gently passes me.

The worst part is, The AE86 isn't made for American road. It's made for Japanese road that were narrow and small. It's considered "slow-ass" In America because American road is too damn big and just long straight without end. Those big n wide road is only unique in America. It's also the case with many JDM like Subaru WRX, Miata, GT86/BRZ, and other 1600cc-2000cc Japanese cars. Those cars were considered slow in USA without mods, it's not in Japan. But those cars handle very good in those japanese road because it has proper balance and it can go way faster than traffic while still easy to control since it's not too powerful. Too powerful car that went above 200hp is quite hard to control in Japanese road.

My biggest complaint about my ae86 Everyone in my life wants me to sell it. Ive had this car for nearly 20 years. Bought my GTS for just over 2 grand (and that was "oh man, theyre starting to get expensive". damn drift tax). Now it seems theyre pushing 20-30~ in good condition. My fiance / family / friends / etc insist all the time oh man, sell it- you can make so much on it. Why dont you sell it. Think of what you could do with all that money. Didnt buy the car to make a profit. Never going to sell it. Stop asking.

i get the constant: "You should put an LS in it!" "Put a 1UZ in it..." "My friend has a ____ engine in one" To me, being able to wind a 4AGE to high RPM and listening to the sound is 75% of the experience! It's ok to be slow.. just enjoy!

Since VR2 for PS5 came out, my desire to jump through the hoops to own a real hatchback have practically disappeared. I used to own the SR5 coupe and I stripped it down to nothing but a drivers seat and seatbelt. It weighed 1750. On the backroads of N.C. nothing could take low speed corners better than I could. Corners over 60mph however, it could be beaten by anyone with a little courage. However, the memories of racing I have in it , with eurobeat blasting and the feeling of being in a special world, was priceless. I lived the dream for years. After the 86 coupe snapped its camshaft, I got a 2nd gen Rx7 and continued. Initial D put me on the path sure, but drifting wasnt in my cards as none of my cars had limited slip. Online in VR however, I could get the cars balance right where I wanted it. Its really hard to justify putting the money and effort and tuning into the real thing. If I got a hydraulic seat that moves, I think the VR would be close enough to the real thing. VR without the moving seat is still immersive. At 42 years old, the fun factor is far more important than speed and bragging rights. You can see why Bunta drove the way he did. I mean, otherwise life is just too boring. Slow in and fast out is boring. D1 show drifting is boring. I gotta enter the corner with a deathwish just to get any emotion at all. The art of brake drifting is practically dead. No one masters it. So even the truly special corner entry lines the car is capable of, are rarely used and rarely seen. Trying to build a real 86 to equal my vision of one is unrealistic. The car has many issues with its reliability stock. You need the 20v silver top bottom end and the black top turbo head combined for maximum oil flow. THe silver top has piston oil coolers and 7 rib mains. The black top has the stronger head and higher lifting valves. I mean come on and on top of that , youd really need a dry sump rally engine to enjoy a 10,000 rpm build. Thanks to youtube and facebook marketplace, the prices are outrageous. Ill just keep using my G27 wheel and VR2 setup with some headphones. The thrill of the cars looks and the desire to compete in corners with the car against others has all but died. I just want to keep perfecting my brake drifting style at full speed in my favorite car. Nothing else really matters. Ive seen videos of the drift king breaking gearboxes and blowing engines. Ive seen him trading out 3rd gear and 5th gear and trading pistons for matching weights. ITs just not worth all that crap when the things im trying to do are too hard on a real wet sump street engine. In the end, I found that I wasnt so much in love with the cars performance. I was in love with the cars look, sound, and balance made for high speed corner entry. Watching this thing go into a corner at full blast with a brake drift is just the coolest thing in automotive history. I was seduced. To this day, all I drive online is the ae86 and I love it to death. I still wont pay 10k for one though. VR technology has come far enough that I dont feel desperate to own one anymore. I like having an indestructible virtual 86 that allows me to experiment and nothing else feels like the 86 on GT7. Once you start using the clutch pedal in VR2 the car wakes up as the real thing. Its like a different set of physics gets unlocked and you can really start to drive it like its the real thing. The fun factor is amazing. Own a real one and some punk will just steal it. Own a real one and you will also never get a moments peace. I own a 87 honda accord lxi that has the same body style as the Ae86 and i get bothered about it 4 times everyday that I deliver pizzas in it. I like the attention sometimes, but other times its just annoying. Im old, and I dont care anymore about how retro or cool it is to the youth. ITs not like any of them can drive clutch anyway. ITs a FWD. But then, when you think you are about to sell it, some hot girl hangs out the window and says, I LIKE YOUR CAR ! Then I smirk and tell myself, not yet....ill keep it a little longer. JDM cars from the golden age should never be taken for granted. What we always get to have, is STYLE and as drivers what we always should go for, is STREET CHARISMA. Right Ryosuke? lol Let the Prius go by. Let the Yaris go by. Let the all wheel steering new supra go by. Let the ugly FR-S go by. We represent style, skill, charisma and charm of the lost art of mecha grip and mecha tuning. Its not meant for punks and their endless pissing contests. We were searching for something special and lap times had nothing to do with the dream we were chasing. Initial D was a blessing and a curse for all of us but I wouldnt trade the experiences I had for anything. Chase something great, like Buntas style or Ryosukes style. The ultra refined upper limit of car control and adaptability will make you feel more special than winning a contest of power or even cornering. Be a specialist. Stick to the car you love the most no matter how much time goes by and one day you'll find yourself reaching a level you didnt think possible. The AE86 is one of the only cars in history with the ability to grow you as a driver in an unlimited capacity. You can find the cars limits but the car always raises your own , the longer you drive it. It is the greatest machine ever invented for a man to drive. It embodies the playful spirit of the Nintendo age. The best magic spell of the 80s was weaved into this chassis. I love it. I will always love it. But I WONT SPEND 10 k on one.

Some of my friends asked me if i would ever get another one. I tell them "I love them, but not at these prices". I've had 4 of them, but that's when they were under $2000 in pristine condition. Those days are loooooong gone.

Lol that whole thing about the vin, was shaking my head on RCR’s video about the car

My twins would probably eat that prius for lunch, my red kouki 86 have a 20v black top engine, and my white zenki 85 have a sr20dett wich is pretty scary and speeds like a bat out of hell...

Agree with the hate for the community. And I'm talking about the ones who have only in the last 5-10 years gotten into this car. The the people I know personally with an AE86 have had the car before then are cool, knowledgeable and friendly. It's this new generation who are inflating the prices, either for the cars complete or for parts.

I love Corolla. I got a 22 Corolla XSE. I know its not an 86 but maybe one day i may get one

Totally agreed!

W video, also one thing to mention, to all the people that say gts’s are ae88s, if u look at the model number and not the vin, it says ae86.

completley agree on the pices of parts, everything is super expensive, when my fenders got ruined i had to resort to wide fenders because oem resellers were out of the question, ive had to resort to replica parts because oem or aftermarket is too expensive, i love my ae86, hate the market

My 86 originally didn't come with AC and I added factory AC in but run R134a freon. AC isn't that great though. Above 95f you're better off just rolling down the window. 😢

The AC bit is sooo true

I hate how most ae86 owners wont recognize or admit that initial D had an impact on them on their decision of buying an ae86. it really doesnt matter but why straiggt up deny it?

I own a coupe, #1 thing i hate is when people say oh it doesnt have a hatch like the one in inital D so its not really a ae86. Oh yea? Well what is it then a fox body with pop up headlights?

You able to put like a classic industries AC on these? At least the interior part, then get like a 2000s Corolla compressor. Will it look hokey? Sure, but will you be cool? Yes ❄️

out of curiosity does anyone know how somebody could go bout getting a dash remade- ive got a 3d model of both a RHD and LHD one and would love to start getting it popped out into production

1 more small thing about the "vins" on these cars, ae86, ae88, etc. Theyre not "ae86s" because of the vin. Ae86 doesnt refer to the "vin", it refers to the *chassis* of the car. Whether its an Sr5 or GTS in the states, both have "ae86" stamped onto the firewall chassis because theyre both ae86s.

its a fun car. not for speed....well thats depends on your set up how u make it fast 😏

I'm sorry, I can't abide the prius comment. Lots of AE86 have the beams engine which doesn't scream through the gears to get to speed, but the 86 never boasted speed. If you watched Initial D the only benefit the car had over all the others was the drivers understanding of inertial drift especially on the downhill. The 86 was about balance and handling, and I doubt prius ever challenged the 86 on the touge.

I’ve never seen a trueno coupe lol only see the sr5 coupes

If only I could get one

I'm honestly kinda glad regularcars said that the gts wasn't an actual 86 because the less attention on this thing the better the prices are gonna be.

Can you link me that page I need the final gear set: 0:38 pov: about to go broke on over price parts

in a straight way you can get smoked by a altima,but in a twisty road victory shall be yours

Things i really love about this car: 1. I don't own one Things i really hate about this car: 2.By the time im old enough to afford one, they'd be over 50 years old and probably extinct, the remaining ones will be with collectors and it'd be too rare and precious to be used as an everyday drive car and would be better off in a collector's garage than the dangerous roads.

A/C on 86 = more enjoyment. Comfort over speed man

Ah damn dude, this is a heartbreaking watch. I'd love to have one as a daily- no drifting, just a reasonable sound system, ac and heat. But the more I look into it, the worse it seems to turn out. Seems like folks have just slammed this thing on it's nuts. You think there's hope to get one in decent shape in the next 2-3 years?

that car needs an LS.

Honestly the thing you hate about the AE86 is that the parts are expensive

1- tranny is going out and I bought a nice running WRX for less than the tranny repair. 2- 1st gear doesn't let you in until nearly stopped and supposedly that's how it is. 3-Headlights are not bright compared to new cars and no longer pop up. Heater,defroster,fan are museum level. 4- door pull pocket is right where my elbow sits. It's sharp cracked hard plastic edges are annoying to say the least. 80 bucks for something we can 3d print for a dollar. Rare drivers seat has a width adjustment knob that bangs my right elbow right in the funny bone...hard. I'm gonna take a hacksaw to it and it's rare. 5- LSD was shot and just doing research was a pain. Torsen, clutch type,lock up levels,brands and into ring gears and ratios. 6- sounding fast when you are not annoys the neighbors and law enforcement. 7- everyone wants a piece of the action. It's like being the fastest gun in the West but you just wanted to go to the store. 8- made out of origami with zero crash protection. 9- gotta drive in traffic with a car that should be in a museum. 10- it made the faster WRX seem ho hum somehow.

Atleast theres an aftermarket Looks At Aw11 With Watery Eyes (I know bout Twos r us And Prime Mr2 Etc) I Want OEM.......With Those Parts I Bet they found Those In Storage....New Old Stock. As For Speed Ya It Only Feels And Sounds Fast......Looks Over At a Hyundai Accent Passing By.......AC lol Mine Leaked Out Again This Time From The Shrader Valve in My Frunk.....

Someone should send your video to toyota. Because your right, the toyota company has really dropped the ball...

This is why it doesn’t matter between SR5 and GTS. Both slow. I prefer a SR5 as a blank canvas.

what i hate most is the price. Yeah it is a cool car that is true. But definitely not 15000 euro + cool, even saw them for 25000 euro. That is also the reason why my interest in jdm cars gone away.

people just care about speed especially those supra kids its a classic car the 4AGE engine is nice especially the high rpm u can take it to 11000 rpm which sounds so good

look at the datsun 100a's they are almost non existant now a days and parts are more harder to find then this fuckin thing

That’s the only thing I hate about my 86 is no ac. Black car black interior. I sweat more in that than I do in my 67 Chevy without ac. I do hate the fanboys though. They think they know shit about my car but will start rattling off these “facts” they got from initial D or whatever article written by a jaded 27 year old. Sure, I’m 20k deep in a car that is isn’t “fast” but it’s sure as hell the most fun I’ve had in. A car. I’ve had plenty of faster cars but it’s nice to be able to bang gears without getting a felony. My gti was 400 whp and it got me in trouble and my ss Camaro was the same. My 67 Chevy makes 500 whp and it does nothing but smoke tires but when it hooks it’s just scary. It’s rickety and has more power than it should. The 86 is fun and I can keep up with some of my buddies with faster cars on tight back roads because they can’t use all that power. Sure whenever we hit a straight they leave me but tighter roads I can hang with them

It’s “especially” not “expescially”

just give me the car and u will receive less car fair deal in my humble opinion I just want a car like the ae86 why dont they make cars like that no more I swear

The heritage program for the AE86 sucks! I bought Panic Made kouki lsd axles for like $700 and some change vs the $450 or so each for heritage axles. They want $1,050 per front caliper, too. I just paid $840 or so, and got the BGRS Wilwood kit on their 8-6 day sale. It's bullshit! To hate their heritage program has nothing to do with the car, really. It's just what GR offers for the Corolla. It's been stated by you and I that there's cheaper and better options compared to the crap they're offering.

Eso es lo que me enoja y frusta de toyota, tiene el poder de hacer las piezas oem y no los hacen y nos dan piezas que ni pedimos como dices 😒

Might be a mustang 🤣🤣🤣🤣