5 THINGS I wish I knew as a beginner Classical Guitarist

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Colin Deibert

Colin Deibert

3 жыл бұрын

In this video we go over 5 things that I wish I would've known when I started as a Classical guitarist!
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@rezaf4213
@rezaf4213 3 жыл бұрын
I had a long break from playing guitar (about 15 years). When I started playing again, the best advice that I gave myself was to wait until I could play a piece/study without mistakes and at the right tempo before moving to new pieces. Sometimes it takes months to reach that goal, but it is always worth it.
@colindeibertmusic
@colindeibertmusic 3 жыл бұрын
That's definitely some excellent advice! That really needs a whole video devoted to that concept.
@justaroundthecorner2883
@justaroundthecorner2883 7 ай бұрын
Very good advice and not easy to apply, but well worth it.
@jessetryon5108
@jessetryon5108 6 ай бұрын
100!
@gordyhydro5774
@gordyhydro5774 4 ай бұрын
I have started again at 62yrs young. What I have done differently this time, is to concentrate on left and right hand technique. I then measure myself playing a study. A proper technique makes a better and easier and more enjoyable experience.
@tommickleburgh9242
@tommickleburgh9242 3 ай бұрын
I can only play 1 song😂. But perfectly as been playing 1 song for like 2 years😂
@jbolinger
@jbolinger 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. I'd add to record yourself often. I'm not talking about for keeps, though. I just mean record to your phone or whatever you have available that will enable you to hear what you actually sound like. The reason is when you're in the moment of guitar playing zen, it's difficult to know how you really sound. When you hear it back, outside of your head, you'll learn a lot about what you can improve upon.
@colindeibertmusic
@colindeibertmusic 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’ll have to add that in a future video! It really is such a valuable lesson.
@TheJoscelyne
@TheJoscelyne 2 жыл бұрын
I do this too, but I do it to show myself how much I've improved. It's easy in the beginning to feel like you are going nowhere, practicing the same song or exercises over and over again. Seeing how I sounded even a month ago is really encouraging.
@eleexbeats
@eleexbeats Жыл бұрын
I wish I would of did that when I was younger because I typically would play alot faster I loved playing as fast as I could now I can't do that anymore
@MD-bq5bg
@MD-bq5bg Жыл бұрын
These are great tips. Transcribing is really needed. Also I do use a guitar support. Why not? Violinists use shoulder rests attached to their violins. Another tip I suggest is to know that practice is different from playing. Playing a piece from the beginning to the end with re-playing here and there for wrong notes may not be a smart way to get better: Break the piece into small sections, focus on one section till it becomes smooth, then proceed. But avoid simple repetition that could train the muscle a wrong way over and over. Instead, stop and analyze, slow down enough to play right every time, consider other finger placements, etc.
@albertjacobs2567
@albertjacobs2567 6 күн бұрын
Excellent advice not only for beginners but for all musicians. Thank you very much
@newgunguy4176
@newgunguy4176 2 жыл бұрын
Itzhak Perlman made a video where he mentions that every hour of practice should consist of 50 minutes of actual practice and 10 minutes of rest. This, in my opinion, is very important.
@ChrisWoodGuitarist
@ChrisWoodGuitarist 2 жыл бұрын
Great advise. My personal guitar holding method is an unusual (less common) use of a guitar strap. As I changed from acoustic to more classical playing raising the neck became necessary. So now I attach the guitar strap at the usual place ( the end by the bridge) run the strap under the side of the guitar, over my legs and then under my left thigh. So you are now sitting on the strap, which is holding the guitar up.. You can use this to set the guitar at any angle. Takes a bit of working out, but works a treat. I got this idea from a forum somewhere, but can remember where.
@douglasthompson8927
@douglasthompson8927 Жыл бұрын
i bought a stand so i can play standing up...it helps a lot
@HarryVerey
@HarryVerey Жыл бұрын
Great tips and wished I had known too!
@Kcrohn
@Kcrohn 11 ай бұрын
this video was awesome, thanks!
@GoatFelon
@GoatFelon 3 жыл бұрын
I got a Guitarlift a while ago and it is seriously the best thing ever.
@MichaelIbsenGuitar
@MichaelIbsenGuitar 3 жыл бұрын
#teamguitarsupport aka tall people problems. One tip I would add is to seek out repertoire by reading music rather than just listening to other players, there is so so so much good repertoire out there, even by frequently played composers, which doesn't get played, simply becuase we tend to just steal rep from our friends in our local school or at the festivals we have happened to go to. This problem creates an effect where the same pieces get played over and over, even sometimes when there are arguably better or more interesting pieces by the same composer which just didn't happen to get popularized for whatever reason. On top of that I would also have liked to gone back in time and encouraged myself to start playing new music and working with living composers earlier, I suppose it's not for everyone, but it's amazing how much collaborating with a living composer enriches your musical life and it honestly opens a lot of doors and creates a lot of performance opportunities in my experience.
@colindeibertmusic
@colindeibertmusic 3 жыл бұрын
Team tall and lanky people is very real! lol I agree with all of the above! I think almost every rut I've ever gotten into has been solved by one of those two things. Bored of CG rep? Discover some new sheet music! I loved going to the GFA and just buying a ton of new physical scores I've never heard of and then reading through them to discover new composers and pieces to play. Also working with composers is always such an amazing experience! Any opportunity to get outside of the CG bubble and make connections with other musicians is so much more rewarding than playing guitar music for other guitarists and arguing over who has the best fingerings...lol
@GabrielSoloGuitar
@GabrielSoloGuitar 8 ай бұрын
We also should transcribe because there’s not a lot of original repertoire for our instrument and there’s so much music our instrument can breath new life into.
@noname-sj1hi
@noname-sj1hi Жыл бұрын
A short note on the foot stool thing. It actually takes a surprising amount of hip flexibility to sit comfortably with a straight back WITH your foot raised up. A simple way to check for yourself how much you're lacking is: Stand in front of your chair, bend your knees slightly and bend forward with your hips (like you're an adult movie actress, you know what I mean), really exaggerate the movement. If you run your fingers down your spine you should feel a crease at the height of your lower back in this position. This means your pelvis is neutral or tilted a bit forward. Now, lower through your legs and sit on the chair (still leaning forward), next bring your torso up by bending at the hips. If you feel down your spine you should still feel the crease in your lower back. You should be able to completely relax your body in this potion and not fall over. Now, if you've made it this far, try to get your foot on the footstool without tilting your hips and keeping the crease in your spine. Not that easy is it :) That's why you're having so much trouble sitting with a foot stool for long periods of time, you just lack the flexibility required, so you compensate by tilting your pelvis back, which fucks with your spinal alignment, so you have to expand more energy to keep yourself upright and your abdomen gets compressed which fucks with your breathing. In short there's your problem :P
@kacywilliams1
@kacywilliams1 2 жыл бұрын
I looked for an ergoplay link. Didn't see one, which only added more credibility that it was an honest comment, so I went to Amazon and got one. Nice sell. You deserve a piece of that IMO. I'm a new subscriber to your channel and I'm looking forward to binge-watching your content. (I found you through This is Classical Guitar)
@jeetray11
@jeetray11 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips. I play for hobby and I don't like to look too formal when I play. The footstool or any prop kind of give a message that I am a serious classical guitarist which I am not. So either I use the flamenco sitting position cross-legged. Or I hunch down when playing. But may be I should consider the props one more time. What are a couple of the best products for the thigh support?
@mcleanblades9234
@mcleanblades9234 10 ай бұрын
On this my advice is do-as-i-say not do-as-i-do - but knowing what I know now it's important to make performing part of your practice routine.
@locngo
@locngo Жыл бұрын
Great sharing Colin. I subbed
@GoodieWhiteHat
@GoodieWhiteHat 5 ай бұрын
Thanks. That was helpful
@wbajzek
@wbajzek 3 жыл бұрын
I used a footstool and then supports for my first fifteen years of classical guitar. I'm 41 now and I can't stand any of them. I started using a strap a few years and I can sit or stand or even walk around and always have the guitar in my preferred position.. Getting a few holes drilled in my concert guitar was mildly traumatizing and it took some time to adapt, but I've never regretted it.
@colindeibertmusic
@colindeibertmusic 3 жыл бұрын
I'm with you on that! I'm so close to getting a strap myself!
@wbajzek
@wbajzek 3 жыл бұрын
@@colindeibertmusic StewMac sells wooden strap buttons by Waverly. I have snakewood buttons, which look nice on my indian rosewood guitar. Just make sure you get the screws that match your tuning machines and they'll look right at home. Sure, you'll knock $1000 off the resale value of your guitar, but that's less than the back surgery you might need in 30 years :)
@colindeibertmusic
@colindeibertmusic 3 жыл бұрын
@@wbajzek Wow, I'll definitely have to check those out. Thank you! :)
@andrewwilliams6139
@andrewwilliams6139 2 жыл бұрын
Me too...but worse because I'm a bit of a collector, with over 20 concert guitars, and for some of them it would just kill me to have buttons fitted even if they were really nice ones. I have tried the strap that hooks into the sound hole and loops around the neck - ok, but not too stable. I don't like guitar supports much because you have to attach stuff. So my best compromise for most of my guitars is a custom-made cushion that fits exactly to my left thigh and is upholstered in soft chamois so the guitar doesn't slip and there are no zips or seams that might mark the guitar. It's also much bigger height-wise than the standard guitar cushion so it holds the guitar quite high - which I wanted - and also much wider so it extends almost to the knee, so the guitar is very stable.
@congerscott6064
@congerscott6064 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewwilliams6139 that's a great idea, I think I'm going to make one or I may even go to a upholstery shop and have them make a really nice one, thanks 👍.
@Anton_the_Vampire
@Anton_the_Vampire Жыл бұрын
Interesting stuff, as I'm just getting back into things myself. The composing thing I've always found hard, I guess because I've just never been happy with any ideas I had. On footstools, if a rest works for you, great. I have one & I find it a hassle because of the fear of the suction cups unsticking. A good, solid, footstool, at the right height works for me. I have no breathing issues, & am a trained, but overweight, singer; so I have a belly to deal with. Unlike you. Lol I guess it's a case of finding what works eh? The RELAXATION thing is spot on! Pepé Romero once said you should be "a brain & a pair of hands" , meaning everything else what so relaxed as to be invisible to you. If I m8ght add one tip (for myself)? DON'T BE TOO HARD ON YOURSELF! You're going to make mistakes & get things wrong, but that's OK. The don't HAVE to be perfect all the time.
@robertsmith4019
@robertsmith4019 2 жыл бұрын
You're right about the footstool; as you age it will become problematic for your knee, hip stability, circulation, and does cause tension in your lower back. There's no reason to deal with that kind of pain distraction. Relaxing is key to speed; conversely, if you're tense while playing, that too will eventually cause circulation problems in your hands and imbalance to the muscles and tendons in your forearm. I speak from experience of 50+ years of playing, that said, I do love the aesthetic of the footstool (I have a collection of them) I don't use them anymore. Finally, weight training will impact your playing, just one more challenge to deal with.
@manhnguyen5
@manhnguyen5 2 жыл бұрын
good advices .
@ForTheClassicalGuitarist
@ForTheClassicalGuitarist 3 жыл бұрын
Only two pieces out of the Frederick Noad Book... I feel like that sums up almost every classical guitarists first two years of playing!
@colindeibertmusic
@colindeibertmusic 3 жыл бұрын
Lol dude for real! 😂
@brookeaday9423
@brookeaday9423 3 жыл бұрын
you totally got me hooked on that brouwer piece Saudade #3. thanks
@colindeibertmusic
@colindeibertmusic 3 жыл бұрын
Haha sorry about that! That piece is so much fun!
@brookeaday9423
@brookeaday9423 3 жыл бұрын
@@colindeibertmusic yes, some of it is kind of random and disjointed but the rest is a jem. Same for the El Decameron. Anyway thanks for the cool content!
@Poreckylife
@Poreckylife 2 жыл бұрын
I play violin only by ear. Never got to learn the notes. And my teacher told me that is incredible because you can feel everything more deep and in layers. I play with my feelings and it's very personal.
@moonasha
@moonasha 5 ай бұрын
the tension thing can't be overstated. I've been playing 1 year seriously (and another 1 before that not so serious), and reducing tension became one of my main goals. Especially as a new player, you don't realize just how much bad form you might have during difficult maneuvers like barres. I ended up with a tendon injury because of it, and it was only after that that I took a step back and forced myself to play as "lazily" as possible. My endurance skyrocketed, I can hold 7+ fret bars easily, I haven't been hurt since, etc. I still need to buy a guitar support thing though D: Another thing that changed my approach to guitar was tuning down an entire step, thanks to Todd MacKillop, it really makes things easier, especially if you're playing without nails. A lot of the music we love was written on instruments a half step down, or even a whole step.
@waltbahnneworleans5420
@waltbahnneworleans5420 Жыл бұрын
# 4 - really important !
@sherylestorque7773
@sherylestorque7773 3 жыл бұрын
GOOD TIPS FOR THE BEGINNERS
@thetruthhurts5210
@thetruthhurts5210 Жыл бұрын
As you start pushing 30!😆😆😆 With the foot stool thing, with prolonged play you get tight hip flexors and a tight piriformis, which predisposes you to sacroiliac joint pain, all on the left. This is a long term thing for me, pushing 50, and not just from guitar. This got worse for me during COVID lock down and an eternity on the couch. If this sounds like you do a search on you tube for the above terms and you will find some nice stretching exercises to help, or better still go see a physio. Not prepared to get a support yet as have only now got a foot stool - I used to play without and at a low sitting height. See how I go!!
@hayesdabney
@hayesdabney 5 ай бұрын
A teacher in Ann Arbor told me "The slower you go, the better you get, faster." Relax. Easier said than done, and when it`s done, it`s easier.
@hayesdabney
@hayesdabney 5 ай бұрын
A strap with shower wall suction cups work well. Standing up, or sitting down.
@Jabelmab
@Jabelmab 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have any classical piece recommendations? Referring to your 2nd tip
@theemoparakeet
@theemoparakeet Жыл бұрын
I'm in my early 20s and the foot stool bugs my back! And it didn't back in high school lol. Might've been the past five years in the army😂
@hawkeyepierce688
@hawkeyepierce688 3 жыл бұрын
hi Colin. maybe try Alexander Technique, friend of mine has used it to correct his posture while playing guitar
@colindeibertmusic
@colindeibertmusic 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I have as well, but I found for me personally, it wasn't so much a postural issue but an medical one. I found it more or less treated symptoms but not the root cause which was a real anatomical imbalance created by having one foot raised for such a long period of time. It caused my hip flexor to tighten and hurt my lower back. But to each their own!
@hawkeyepierce688
@hawkeyepierce688 3 жыл бұрын
@@colindeibertmusic please continue with great work on videos, me and my partner are following it since he organizes video/audio shootings of his pupil for the national competitions here in Germany
@colindeibertmusic
@colindeibertmusic 3 жыл бұрын
@@hawkeyepierce688 Thank you so much, I really appreciate! I will!
@hawkeyepierce688
@hawkeyepierce688 3 жыл бұрын
@@colindeibertmusic by the way we decided to start with set of 2 off Røde NT1s and Zoom F6. NT1s have so low self-noise, it looked appropriate for recording classic music. F6 enables 32bit recording, which gives us good chance not to clip the takes and easy correct something without losses. mixing done in 24bit in Logic Pro (partner had it already, so saving some money). now playing with big diaphragm pair to try to get stereo feel that does not sound too produced. wish you good day
@mohaglade4892
@mohaglade4892 Жыл бұрын
I was expecting tips about finger exercices and how to get used to fingers rather than a plectrum. Maybe next video give us a more practical tips. thanks.
@elcidgaming
@elcidgaming 2 жыл бұрын
I have a really short torso. so I am very comfortable even without a stool
@ctnspvtltd8664
@ctnspvtltd8664 7 ай бұрын
I also had a 12 year break before i started again.. Its difficult to cope up again. Progress is much slower and you need huge amount of patients..
@mcleanblades9234
@mcleanblades9234 10 ай бұрын
You get much more tension when playing at full volume than you do when playing your default. To truly play full volume your technique must be good on both hands. Even at full volume you it's good to practice intense on the right hand and less pressure on the left.
@depressio5395
@depressio5395 Жыл бұрын
I recently got a classical guitar, Im just starting out, would you kind gentlemen send me some great music played on classical guitar, that can motivate me.
@deltafour1212
@deltafour1212 9 ай бұрын
Correct me if I am wrong but it seems classical guitarists use way different chords and inversions than other guitar styles such as rock, folk , country
@justaroundthecorner2883
@justaroundthecorner2883 7 ай бұрын
Yes they do, but not as many as a Jazz guitarist.
@Manana7016
@Manana7016 4 ай бұрын
What guitar is that? It’s beautiful
@colindeibertmusic
@colindeibertmusic 2 ай бұрын
It’s a 630mm scale Aaron Ringo woodringguitars.com. Cedar/Cedar Doubletop with African Blackwood back and sides!
@Texas1836Band
@Texas1836Band Ай бұрын
Well you almost did it! This video, although well intended, almost destroyed my ambition to learn this genre of guitar style
@philipjameson-guitar5986
@philipjameson-guitar5986 3 жыл бұрын
👍
@mcleanblades9234
@mcleanblades9234 10 ай бұрын
My #1 piece of advice is to build a repertoire. If - after playing for a year - all you have is 3 pieces and 10 guitar exercises you're likely to loose interest in playing guitar because there are other things in life competing for your attention,.
@douglasthompson8927
@douglasthompson8927 Жыл бұрын
i have 9 toes...a foot stool just plain hurts
@Andrewvpham
@Andrewvpham 3 жыл бұрын
#TeamFootstool :^)
@DylanManatee
@DylanManatee 3 жыл бұрын
#teambackproblems 😖
@Andrewvpham
@Andrewvpham 3 жыл бұрын
@@DylanManatee oh I’m definitely on #TeamBackproblems too 😂
@rockyboy976
@rockyboy976 3 жыл бұрын
that guitar brand looks familiar
@colindeibertmusic
@colindeibertmusic 3 жыл бұрын
It’s made by Aaron Ringo! www.woodringguitars.com It’s a 630mm cedar/cedar double top!
@guidofeliz8384
@guidofeliz8384 2 жыл бұрын
Classical guitarist Thu Le wants me to buy a guitar from her website. In U.S. currency, the guitar is slightly over $1000. I am not a concert guitarist. I paid less than $200 for my Lucero classical guitar a few months ago. I don't think paying over a $1000 for guitar that I mostly play in my room makes sense. Thu Le's guitar is an overseas instrument supposedly made in Spain. I know that people are desperate for money during the pandemic. I think a guitar no more than $500 but greater than my Lucero guitar is all I need. I need someone to help me make a right decision. What do you say? I like my guitar but would like to own a better quality instrument. You say?
@intersanctum
@intersanctum Жыл бұрын
look at some Ortega guitars.
@steveb9325
@steveb9325 3 жыл бұрын
I can't stand the way they look though its saved my back!!! So I can "play". Have you noticed going back to a foot stool is so weird? The guitar sits too low etc. You cant breath properly etc Thank you for this post. Especially for beginners!
@jodyguilbeaux8225
@jodyguilbeaux8225 9 ай бұрын
he does not look 30 years old. Maybe 16 ?
@colindeibertmusic
@colindeibertmusic 2 ай бұрын
Definitely over 30 😁
@namor637
@namor637 Ай бұрын
Aren’t you just throwing a bunch of things at us without putting yourself in the situation of a beginner?
@colindeibertmusic
@colindeibertmusic Ай бұрын
That’s kind of the point of the video is that these are five things a beginner would not have the perspective to realize, and that I’ve learned in my 22 years of playing. Cheers!
@namor637
@namor637 Ай бұрын
@@colindeibertmusic so maybe it would be better to portion each aspect with something more substantial……
@MrLieka
@MrLieka Жыл бұрын
Hello Sir, What kind of shit music were you refering to ? Kindly, Thomas
@davidteo03
@davidteo03 Жыл бұрын
Talk too much instead of going straight to the point
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