This is true, but I also think it can be super deflating to build an army only to find out that it is so terribad that you shouldn't ever expect to experience anything other than getting stomped into the ground. I think when introducing new players to the hobby, experienced players should be mindful to help guide them so they don't go spend $1000 only to discover that their army is effectively worthless.

100% Literally in the time between settling on a faction (GSC) and starting to actually build them, they've gone from "pretty middling" to apparently, top tier. By the time I'm done building and painting? Probably gonna have been nerfed. Hopefully not too badly but, entirely possible they wind up bottom of the heap. But the aesthetic of all that mining equipment and pressure suits, the crazy dirtbikes and stuff? That's always going to be there. That's the stuff that brought me to the party. They may take my stats, but they'll never take my sick wheelies >.>/

That's actually #3.

@@pancakemogul its 1.. just long form

I think this is only half right. Look at the meta of the army you enjoy and see if it's something you'd want to play first.

Fallout: Wasteland Warfare is a very cheap and easy to start miniature tabletop game. You can access all the rules for the Warhammer like game and every army for free, the only things you gotta buy rules wise are the Campaign book (and if you want to, the D&D like mode rule book too), and miniatures. Though they provide STL of many of their models, and are working on making more available for purchase.

The problem with that is the wargaming side, other games exist but good luck finding someone else to actually play them with.

@@jazzy4830 GW certainly has the most popular games but that will never change unless we make it change. Wargaming is niche to begin with and it only takes a couple of people playing regularly to start a trend.

Or you can be that guy who orders stuff from other parties. I can get Angron for like 28 dollars if I order it from China or I can get cheap 3D printed one from Etsy. And rather then hiding that fact, be honest and admit you do it for financial reasons. From my experience most people don't mind it when playing, it's about the gaaame.

@@jazzy4830 Buy 8 mechs and lend half of them to the other guy, and teach them Battletech. That's maybe the cost of a 500 point army, but the scope is similar to two 2000 points armies. When the cost and hassle is so much lower than GW, it's easy to just have enough for both of you. You'll only face issues if you're gonna play at a GW store, rather than a local game store that carry all sorts of games.

I don't even mind spending that long on a miniature. Could just be because I'm not in a rush and so far not too interested in playing and I chose AdMech, but this gives every model you paint more soul imo. Speedpainting makes your models just painted models, taking every model by themselves gives them each their own story in a way. I mean, you can even see yourself improve over time instead of having the same "subpar" paintjob on 10 models.

@@m1bl4n Just like with anything else, mastering the technique is most important and then speed will come with experience. Some people don’t feel that the time investment to get the model looking better than it’s primary color scheme is worth it. There are definitely upsides to not agonizing over every angle and detail but that effort is also worth it. If some people don’t want to get the maximum value out of their models, that’s their problem

Oh, 2-3 hours...whoops, I just put about 12 hours into a terminator chaplain...

Orks are kind of a pain in the ass, too if you're not good at painting faces. It's a whole army of faces, small straps, belt buckles, ect.

@@thequestbro True but with orks, the eyes are just red balls and the shade of green doesn’t really matter so they’re at least easier than human faces

As a beginner i realised too late that starting small is important. Now i have 2000pts of krieg that are primed and ready to paint, but they're so intimidating.... i take it really slowly tho and that makes it more enjoyable

That was kind of you to share helpful advice.

Welcome to the hobby!

I agree whole heartedly with this statement. The entire point for me is to play the game. Painted miniatures, to me, are not needed. I just want to play. I try to buy painted minis at decent prices or my son paints them for me (since he really enjoys doing it. However, he has his own miniatures for Warcry and Star Wars Legion, so mine don't get too much attention, though he does paint figures for me for birthdays, Father's Day, and Christmas).

This is actually something I recently discovered. I had a freak moment in my life and bought a ton of models. I was so devastated cause my pile of fully painted was dwarfed by the amount of grey bodies and primed wannabes. Then, I realized: the reason why I wanna build models is because then I can play with them, painted or not. I didn’t care a whole lot after that. If someone wants to laugh or cry at my unpainted WIPs, then I won’t play with them. The moment I start stressing about paint jobs is the moment I start losing pieces the blissful joy of gaming.

I couldn’t convince myself I wanted to spend hundreds of dollars on 3D printed figurines so I just cut out note cards in the base shape of the models and carry them in a ziplock bag lol. I don’t plan on playing at a game store with strangers anyways so it works great. Just take a colored pencil and mark the little circles to show they correspond to a certain unit type and you’re good to go

I'm really glad it was helpful!

Thanks so much Ric! I'm having a blast producing content for something I'm so passionate about. So far the community response has been overwhelming. Thanks for taking the time to write such an encouraging comment!

@@CrashCourseHobbies You've got this!

Holy smokes, I saw the video, noticed the quality and simply assumed this channel had like 6-digit-amounts of followers :D can only agree, this will take OFF!

@@marvingrunthal3930 Thanks friend :)

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Sounds like an awesome plan! Welcome to the hobby!!!

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Purple paint i think😂

Hello fellow COTF! My wardrobe is like 70% Coheed merch so get ready!

@@CrashCourseHobbies Already subscribed, your channel is really hitting the ground running look forward to the future of your channel.

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I use the craft paints extensively. my two tips would be; 1st - get a wet palet (if you don't have one) 2nd thin the paints a lot. put an initial coat almost like a wash. then add layers til you get the solid opaque you are looking for. as a Tau collector, I have 100 troops plus drones plus battle armor plus vehicles. if I were to use standard mini paints, the cost would be nearly as much as the Army. after I prime, I base with two different craft paint colors. then I use the quality paints for any extra details. a final wash to pull out some details. some basing material and it's done. good luck with your Karen Boyz.

Nothing wrong with that! also a good suggestion. enter the hobby however you want. with pre-painted you can get straight into playing!

Well god fucking dammit someone in quite literally the exactly the same position as myself 🤣 I'm a few chapters ahead of you lol, fun book so far! I'm just after getting my first box, the new admech boarding patrol one! Hopefully gonna start some of the assembly next week!

@@lizardlegend42 how much did that box cost? I know its a pricey hobby but I'd appreciate a ballpark y'know?

@@DirtyNerd86 It cost ~€95 for me, that's with a 10% duscount the store has. Then ofc there was the primer and paints, in total I'd say I've spent about €130 on hobby stuff I think? I also got the book and the codex as well on top of that. Codex is cool I'm still glad I got it a lot of fun art and lore but when 10th edition comes out in the next few months you won't actually need a codex to play (that was a fun surprise 😅). Definitely avoid the core rule book until you're sure you want to play the game somewhere that doesn't already have a copy I'd say. It is just shockingly expensive. Piracy can also be your friend, GW won't miss you lol. Ik admech are a particularly pricy army if you're looking to get enough numbers to play big battles though so do be warned. Like this boarding patrol box is only like 360 points I think? Still great value for money though compared to getting all the model sets it comes with individually. If you're interested in Tau they probably have the single best Boarding Patrol box coming out today I think actually 😅! Over 500 points, should be similar cost and really excellent looking models! The Farsight model they've shown off for it is just beautiful.

@@lizardlegend42 I'm not sure if I want to play the game itself yet. I like the concept of it, but at the very least, I'll paint a small number of models just to decorate my living space. At least, that's what I imagine my intro to the series is gonna look like. So, for now, I have the lore book. And will look into picking up a small detachment of figures from either Adeptus Mechanicus or T'au. I'm also wondering about the Necrons. Metal skeletons with plasma weapons? Yes, please.

@@DirtyNerd86 That's a very good idea I think! And yes Necrons are also very cool 😅

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@@CrashCourseHobbies War Dogs , arks of omens Abaddon book

Also hesitating can cause you to miss a "prime season" for your preferred army! Ive been interested in playing for like 4 years now, and my two preferred armies have become top of the meta recently, so now ill most probably miss playing them at their peak, since im still far behind on being able to field and army.

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my tech channel is called Brainbean. Thanks for the kind words! This channel is relatively new but I've been doing KZfaq and video production for like 7 years. It's definitely been a long road to learn everything, starting a new channel can look deceiving in terms of accomplishment vs time but without my years of working on other projects I would never be able to put out content like this.

@@CrashCourseHobbies cheers for the reply buddy, that’s exactly the impression I had, apologies if I implied anything else 🙌, from the thumbnails, video production, lighting etc it’s easy to see you’re not new to this. Your videos are edited lovely and presented great, your and you’re great on camera 👍 Either way I’ve subbed with both my channels and will be following your content ☺️👍👍

Love it!

@Crash Course Hobbies Thanks, i used the Death rider from Dark Siders as the scheme, theyr charcoal, with purple and neon green lenses. I painted Lemartes original colors though, and im salty i cant find a decent Astorath mini

I'd love to see them. Tag me on Instagram if you have them posted there! sounds like a great scheme!

@Crash Course Hobbies sorry man , dont have insta, i could record a vid of them and post it on my channel, simple format armies on parade style

@@shadedreaver I would definitely give it a watch!

For me, I consider it a win if I remember all my rules and don't make any huge blunders.

@@CrashCourseHobbies it’s a given that I’m going to blunder in a huge way.

Not that expensive compared to other hobbies. Just saying. Let's look at something you might think is cheap mountain biking. You might say ok 200 dollar bike from Walmart and go. No that bike falls apart after even beginner level slopes. Your looking at 2k for a decent body, about 100 per wheel (low-mid) decent brakes etc. It racks up. Hell its cheaper than having a social life. Let's say you go and have drinks Saturdays and you spend 50 bucks, kinda low end cause you aren't buying rounds for your mates ate that price 50x4=200 200x12= 2400 a year and you don't even have anything to show for it. Video games unless you are one of those people that plays the same game on repeat you are spending more on video games. Its like that for almost every hobby. Some cheaper ones are crocheting, knitting, and walking. On top of that your product stays good for awhile with warhammer some models haven't been updated in decades, its just codices and rules books. If you play one army you might pay 200ish an edition. So let's look at cheap armies for gray knights a decent 2k point army will cost you about 450$ with 3 combat patrol boxes choosing load outs correctly done easily. With models left over you can sell to pay for the hobby supplies. Then 200 for books thats core rules, your codex and mission books. For 650ish you have a very good 2k points of grey knights and there books and hobby supplies if you sell extra models 750ish of you don't. Not super expensive considering it will last for editions. Its get bad with multiple armies and metachasing. Your other points lead me to believe you don't actually play often. Tons of people are willing to help people learn ask specifically for it and you'll see. Tons of ways to have fun besides win, narrative games, crusades etc. Again price? You can play 500 point games and have a blast for less than 400$. Most games aren't even played at 2k points its just tournaments and some of those are 1k point lists. Games Workshop doesn't break there are just times when they don't preform as well not to say they can't still preform. Gotcha moments may feel bad but its a learning experience, its war sometimes your enemy pulls out shit you aren't ready for. However that comes with not reading Intel reports (any of the hundreds of army break downs online) never played a guard player but I know they can take finial standard and kasrkins for a mortal wound bomb that you can't stop. Standard makes it so you can't ignore wounds so no feel no pains and overrides per phase wound caps 2 strats let kasrkins mortal wound on 5+. Tl;dr: stop the cap.

@war.room.strategist There's no cap. The game's poorly designed, expensive, dated, horribly balanced, and every player I've ever met only pub stomps. These are my opinions, but I can back them up. Stop using the excuse that "it's cheap than most hobbies". That's called "whataboutism". No one gives a shit if it's technically cheaper is specific ways over other hobbies. These are PLASTIC MODELS! It's widely known that their profit margins are absolutely insane compared to other companies. They are ripped off their players. Stop making excuses for a company that doesn't give a shit about you.

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