All the hours you put into these videos really pays off Rob, well done. You’re a very talented man 👍🏼

One thing to mention around ehu. The price of commercial electric is normally part of the camp price. With camp fees becoming really expensive , I can see the sector changing its pricing being camp only and pay electric separately. If this is the case, using more gas for the fridge & heating would be a cheaper option. So, whilst you’re right for those who don’t like to do wild camping, I can see that the Safefill could be a benefit for those who enjoy electric hookup camping aswell . Personally, I think the product is brilliant and having one for 8 years, I would strongly recommend. Also, whilst sometimes you do have hunt for gas, ( luckily not a problem for me) I would buy 2 bottles, and take advantage of buy more and be less frequent to travel. I would also go for the 10kg bottle , which is only £10 to £15 more than the 7.5 kg you bought giving an extra 5ltrs of gas capacity. Not had a problem getting into the locker, but with some vans you do have to put in on an angle .

Thanks for creating such a professional and informative video. I've used a Safefill for about 3 years now and as well as the cheaper fill costs there's also the benefit of being able to top-up a part-filled bottle and not needing to waste gas exchanging a part-filled Calor bottle. I appreciate there's ways round this though (2 bottles) and as you've said it's not for everyone, but another option. I completely agree about a Safefill holder at the LPG pumps!

I’ve had my two 7.5 kg safefill cylinders for five years now and being seasonal has saved me a fortune over that time compared to calor. Your video has really helped me to understand the workings of the safefill bottles .I’ve noticed when I connect refilled cylinder it’s hard to connect pigtail, now your video explains why this happens due to the trapped liquid,once you open valve slightly it releases pressure and pigtail screws home. I wondered why this happened and now I know. Thanks for the informant video.

By far the best video review of safefill I've seen. Just clear information, allowing the viewer to decide what's right for them. Well done!

Very good video, though we feel Gaslow cylinders are better with a separated filler. We think that more campsites will start filling cylinders as we have done. Though its a manual pump system which takes a little effort, we have been doing this for a few years now and it is a great service to offer our customers.

First class. Please keep doing these information videos. Love your style and time spent producing.

Thanks for a well presented and easy to understand video. I would like to add some points (we have been using a SafeFill for 2 years now). We carry a 6kg Calor and a 7.5kg SafeFill. When the SafeFill runs out I swap to the Calor and then go off and fill the SafeFill (if there is anywhere nearby) and on return hook up the SafeFill again. The Calor acts as an emergency reserve. Why the two cylinders? As SafeFill is not always available we have the Calor in reserve. Remember you don't have to wait until it is empty, you can 'top up' if you find somewhere. So why did get a SafeFill? Three reasons. 1) In 2021 Calor 6kg were almost impossible to replace (and are still in short supply in some areas) so the SafeFill was a good alternative. 2) We tour with our caravan for months on end over the winter (used to be 6 month trips but Brexit put paid to that!) in Europe and Morocco. Yes, we use EHU when available, but in Europe and Morocco you are often on a mere 6amp supply or even less, and with voltage drop (due to high demand on site in the evenings) the fridge would often go onto gas. Also in the cold evenings we often need gas for heating. You cannot get Calor in Europe or Morocco and you cant fill a Calor cylinder (well we did find one place that would do it illegally, but you cant rely on that - and it can be dangerous), so I was always worried about running out of gas. You can buy SafeFill adapters for Europe (several are needed depending on the country). So having SafeFill means that we can tour Europe and Morocco with our caravan and get LPG whenever we need it. 3) In the UK we off-grid quite a lot (Camping and Caravanning Club Temporary Holiday Sites) so we do use quite a lot of gas. So for us SafeFill certainly makes sense. As you said in the video if you are always on EHU then probably not for you. The BIG downside is that finding somewhere to fill your cylinder is getting rather difficult. If you look at the website mentioned you will see that there appear to be PLG filling stations all over the UK. However, the majority will not let you fill a SafeFill. Also the website is not kept up to date and quite a few are no longer available. I have actually emailed the site with updates where I found LPG was no longer available. I never received any reply and the stations are still on their map! So 'phone before you set out. You can not filter the map to find where you can fill a SafeFill. We live in the Scottish Highlands north of Inverness and the only place in the whole of the Highlands you can get a SafeFill cylinder filled is the camp site a Beauly (Beauly Holiday Park). This is about 30 miles from our house. There are nearer LPG pumps at petrol stations by Dornoch and Skiach but they will not let you fill a SafeFill cylinder. I have shown them the regulations but they absolutely refuse. Even in Yorkshire (where there a many campsites) it is difficult to find a place to fill up. Anyway, having said all this, with our European travel and off-grid usage it suits us, and of course the cylinders are much lighter as you demonstrated. Thanks again for a great, well produced vide. KH

Fantastic video, thank you! its really made my mind up about this, and for the amount of gas we use vs the upfront cost, means this would be a pointless endeavour (1 bottle a year) . Also, there is absolutely nowhere near us to fill up, it would be a good 60 mile round trip to fill the bottle. Take care Dan

Great video.. I’ve had safefill for 7 years and would recommend to anyone .

I’m thinking of changing to SafeFill, for two reasons mainly: 1; Prices of exchanging gas bottles have gone through the roof over the last few years, Exchanging my 10 kg. (= 19 litres) Lite gas bottle currently costs £50.00, as opposed to £20.00 for the same size SafeFill bottle. 2: We are planning to tour around Europe in a few years from now, and LPG is much more popular and widely available anywhere in Europe, so re-filling is not a problem at all. In my opinion, worth putting up with for a few years. But the Main reason for me is that SafeFill has broken a few longstanding old traditions, and making gas bottle refillable is breaking a few barriers. Not only innovative thinking, but also providing competition for the “establishment”, I love that and admire that, and SafeFill deserves a chance to become the new norm in bottled gas.

Today I've just bought a 7.5kg SafeFill bottle. A quick search on how to use it and your video popped up. I watched it all the way through and you've answered every question I had. I've yet to fill it up, so like you were I'm still a little nervous about the first fill. I'm lucky that I live less than a mile away from a BP garage that allows the filling of SafeFill bottles. By the way, I thought your video was brilliant, so I've subscribed and heading off to see what else is on your channel.

fantastic video, very informative to a new Caravaner who has just ordered a 7.5kg Safefill bottle, mainly for the weight advantage.

Best video I’ve seen on here, basic information no waffling just important information Well done Rob

Thanks for review review, I've just found your channel and subscribed, I too hate the bottle and looking for alternates once our current bottles run out. Brucy bonus, you are in my local area, so nice to know there are alternatives to Morrisons. 👍

What a brilliant video. So well made and thorough. Thank you for this ❤.

Very balanced and informative Rob - Many thanks! Also, some great comments and advice below, so thanks for the comments.

I used to use 2 x calor 3.9kg bottles , I have a bailey van with low mtplm . I now use 1 7.5kg safefill & have more gas & much lower weight. I’m lucky to have a Morrisons only a couple of miles from home. I was Olson lucky to have bought my safefill on an eBay sale , I got it for £120. I’m never going to get my money back but I love the weight saving & the fact I can top it up when it’s half full for £6ish.

Very professional and informative video... Excellent!!

Nice video. I've just ordered a safefill 7.5kg. I almost fell over paying £42 for a blue calor 7kg! I have a station about 5 miles away that allow safefill 😀 Gained a sub, looking forward to seeing more videos.

It's worth mentioning that calor gas is not available in the eu,so if you are doing an extended trip abroad get eu adaptors so you can manage with just one bottle

Thanks for a really informative and well structured video on this subject. Been wondering for a while now about Safefill and your video has certainly helped. Would just like to comment that your video production values are clearly excellent. Just a minor request if you could possibly turn down the background music a touch? Found it quite hard to properly follow what you were saying at times as my brain started drifting off to listen to the music. Possibly something to do with my Tinitus 🙄 Thanks again for great content and have subscribed 👍

Well done for bringing up the issue of holding the cylinder still whilst filling up its bloody awful i now press my foor on the bottle against the steel safety ring around the pump and away i go , its still not good though

Best Vlog I’ve seen on safefill cylinders

Excellent video. Well done, and thank you very much for such great information and comment. Cheers.

Thanks for this vlog. Atm I’m struggling to locate a refill for my butane 7kg bottles and would certainly consider this as an alternative.

Excellent video Rob. Cheers. I am going to buy the 7.5. 👍🏆

Thanks for sharing; great vid, as always. I'm not personally sold on safefill. Firstly, I don't currently use enough gas and I've taken the halfway house approach of getting similar bottles, but replacements, rather than refill (gaslight). Secondly, the whole thing about refilling winds me up beyond measure. Not enough places near me. Heard stories of people being refused at some Morrisons. It'd probably take me about 27 years for them to pay off. I currently have 2 10kg gaslight bottles and I always have one full. This is mainly because I ran out of calor gas once in France, and you can't get it over there... However, I do like them, and I think they are a very good idea. I feel the same way about electric cars and Motorhomes 🙂 they just aren't any good for me...

easy listening and very informative great job

Filling gas containers that are not installed into an Autogas pump at filling stations is not allowed on the European continent, despite the simplicity of the process. The filling station staff will interrupt the pump from behind the control desk at the paypoint, and you will be left without gas and the means to fill the cylinder unless you take precautions to hide the gas cylinder behind the car that you drove in with, and proceed to fill whilst the staff are not looking. If they find out that you have filled a cylinder that is not fixed into your vehicle, you will not be allowed back in to the filling station. I have been filling gas cylinders in all the European countries for the last twenty years, and base my views on first hand experience at the pump. Hide the cylinder from the view of the cameras, and the staff when you fill up, and be discreet when you put the filled cylinder into your vehicle, otherwise the staff will give you some grief.

Another great video.

Hey rob do you have a motor mover on your van? How do you use it? How do you charge you’re battery when in storage?

Have you had many refusals/ bad experiences at filling stations? I bought a gaslow bottle as it fit in my boat gas locker without modifications. Ive had success at two morrisons and one refusal probable due to ignorance. Can i ask where you filled up in your video as i think i live in similar area to you? Cheers.(ps. Great video btw ). PPS. If you use gas for heating thats when it makes a BIG difference

great video, thank you

You filled the bottle in isolation (i.e. not installed in a vehicle) ....presumably this is a widely accepted practice at all fill up locations? I have a Truma measuring device...will it work on this bottle?

Biggest benefit is for Motorhome, cost, weight and available in the UK and Europe..Calor gas weigh to expensive and plenty of apps to show you where to refill.😊

I Was recommended LPG underslung for my VW transporter as space is king and it keeps gas out of the cabin.

Mine overfills. Supplier said watch the pump when you fill it!!! Defeats the object. Also I worry especially as it vents off when overfilled what happens when I open the boot of the car and the boot light comes on??

When you say "don't wait for the cylinder to empty before refilling" ... how do you know how much gas is still in the cylinder, and how much to put in?

Hi mate have you tried the bottle off grid just wondering if it’s worth going for the 10kg bottle myself we would only be using off grid on weekends in summer and don’t live far from a filling station I’m just wondering how far the gas goes as I would prefer the 7.5 option for weight purpose thank you really good video 👍

Lifetime of the cylinder? Given that it looks like it's made of spun fiber it will have a shorter life than a conventional steel one.

What did you have to change/adapt. On your caravan to use the safefill? Does the regulator or pigtails need changed?

Unfortunately after buying a Safefill bottle I've found they wont fit in a Buccaneer Barracuda front locker! Can't say if this applies to other Buccaneer models? :)

we have had numerous people trying to fill non refillable bottles at our fuel station, we are very cautious now when people fill bottles and double check before we authorize the LPG pump

We're can you get the pig tails to change from calor connections

When you have filled it it to late. Howdid they stop you. Did you go in and ssk?.

Music too intrusive when you're speaking. Some great points, though 👍

Maybe im getting old , but the background music when you did the 1 through 5 segment was way to loude.. otherwise a great post...who knew gas cylinders were so interesting!!.🤣

Music a tad loud at end

SAFEFILL UNCERTAINTY: I'm going to pass on the Safefill LPG route. Great idea, but when you enter into something where there is a reasonably high initial investment, you need to be certain that it will not be short lived. DUE DILIGENCE: What I’ve learnt so far... Fill up points are few and far between, our closest Morrisons Ipswich a 50 mile round trip. Best to call ahead nice lady in Morrisons filling station can tell you how much LPG they have in the tank. HOWEVER... Ask if Morrisons will be continuing to supply self fill LPG the answer is... Who knows? Not very reassuring! But the clincher for me was the impossibility of trying to find someone at Safefill HQ to talk to. Also Email sent with no reply as yet. Looks like Safefill as a company is fast becoming an endangered species. So I’m out, as I’ve decided that I don’t want to own this problem. Just as a side note: Based on our Irish road trip beware finding LPG in the ROI (Southern Ireland) Their LPG bottles are threaded externally, unlike ours internally.

Can't get them now... 😢😢😢😢

Well well my local garage 👍👍

I feel that you left the most important reason for having one of these type of cylinders and that is EUROPE!! Most filling station there has LPG refillable points and more to the point you can not get Calor gas in the Continent so you're stuffed if you have a steel cylinder. This is not a particular concern for the caravan brigade but certainly for motorhomes. This is simply another UK rip off that big companies do not want to sell you cheap LPG and force you to go down the Calor gas route.

top video Rob 👍👍

Great video, but music to loud

All very good but Autogas are going to stop selling LPG in 2024.

Your video is well-made, but the (totally unnecessary) music is far too loud in relation to your voice. Don't try to spice up your videos with music while you're talking! Unfortunately, the filling up of gas cylinders by private individuals at petrol stations is strictly forbidden in many countries of the EU. It remains unclear why the regulations differ so much among countries, since the behaviour of the technical devices are the same. Physics has nothing to do with borders.

Theyer brilliant until you go to Europe with them and you have trouble filling them.

Music to loud difficult to listen to

200 quids 😂! May be ok for owner of £70k motorhomes, but bro we aren’t all that rich ! You can just buy an adapter for £35 and fill up Propane bottle far easier, same job just the anaesthetic! Sorry Looks nice but my way is far cheaper

Excellent video. Subscribed!!

Back ground music far to LOUD !!