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5 Things You're Probably Doing Wrong in Jets - War Thunder

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WhooptieDo

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@WhooptieDo
@WhooptieDo 4 жыл бұрын
I really didn't want to have to make this video guys, I'm sorry but there is so many new folks right now and they need to hear this. We will be digging deeper into some of the basics over the next couple months. Please let me know if you have any specific topics you want covered. Meanwhile, Gaijin makes a video on aircraft to win head ons with! Fml
@kevinjacob3338
@kevinjacob3338 4 жыл бұрын
even the older players are still doing those stupid things :/
@WhooptieDo
@WhooptieDo 4 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna be honest here, my overall skill level has gone down because of the aforementioned. There is challenges in fighting multiple players at once, but I rarely if ever face someone that knows what theyre doing in a 1v1 scenario.... And that hurts me because when I do encounter someone that knows what they're doing, the outcome isn't always like I hoped. We need those challenges to stay proficient.
@v3nom4k55
@v3nom4k55 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on aiming with jets. I can play well but when it comes to getting the kill I always miss shots I should hit
@ShadowLinkX37
@ShadowLinkX37 4 жыл бұрын
@@WhooptieDo I think a lot of the issue is how overly potent missles have become reducing the need for actual skill. BR compression is awful as well. If you get a shenyang behind you in a hunter F.1 you basically just hope your opponent screws up.
@Ace-uu4hj
@Ace-uu4hj 4 жыл бұрын
@@WhooptieDo I'm sorry but with my ADHD I cant not have tunnel vision, unless I don't take medication, but even then still difficult.
@Kay_213_
@Kay_213_ 4 жыл бұрын
5 things I’m probably doing wrong: 1.) Playing them in the first place
@Rusty-iv9qi
@Rusty-iv9qi 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@wg4112
@wg4112 4 жыл бұрын
yes
@JoseARomo-qv5fk
@JoseARomo-qv5fk 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, low tier is so much more fun
@Kay_213_
@Kay_213_ 4 жыл бұрын
in most cases yeah. I do enjoy higher tier in sim though despite the american bomber spam
@wg4112
@wg4112 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kay_213_ same
@The.Drunk-Koala
@The.Drunk-Koala 4 жыл бұрын
I was in a 9.0 match and someone ask where the airfield was to land. Yes he bought the premium jet and was in his 3rd match in his war thunder career. There is your failure, right there Gaijin.
@Hovis_Enjoyer
@Hovis_Enjoyer 4 жыл бұрын
By the same token, there's no good way to learn jets other than to fly them, Gajin doesn't exactly make their jet community very accessible
@xanderwusky3001
@xanderwusky3001 4 жыл бұрын
The is one map (I think its Malta but not sure) where the AF is right next to another runway. I have over 1550 hours but still I manage to accidentally land at that airfield several times :P
@turkeyboy5543
@turkeyboy5543 4 жыл бұрын
@@xanderwusky3001 IKR! I've done that too. I also saw 2 people do it together and both realize their mistake after.
@xanderwusky3001
@xanderwusky3001 4 жыл бұрын
@@turkeyboy5543 yeahits mostly annoying when you have a fucked engine haha. Then you think you managed to make it but now you are stuck on the wrong AF :P
@thehavoccompany-a3
@thehavoccompany-a3 4 жыл бұрын
The only way I managed to grind to top tier US jets was with the premium Sabre. But then again, I was playing WT on and off for years (started in 2013 - played almost exclusively Ground RB for a long time) before I did so, and I actually know how to fly lol It's painful when you are typically the last person alive on the team, and there are still 3 - 5 enemy jets still up, because your teammates couldn't fly right even if their lives depended on it...
@orin3039
@orin3039 4 жыл бұрын
Before I watch, here are the 5 things I think he’ll mention 1. Turnfighting 2. Climbing like a prop 3. Full commit headons 4. TURNFIGHTING 5. Not keeping speed up
@WhooptieDo
@WhooptieDo 4 жыл бұрын
How'd you know?!? 😂😂
@orin3039
@orin3039 4 жыл бұрын
Wait did I actually get it right? I haven’t watched it yet
@WhooptieDo
@WhooptieDo 4 жыл бұрын
You weren't exactly right. Pretty damn close though. Full commits, prop climbing, diving and giving up energy, tunnel vision, and approach angles.
@rubenbotter
@rubenbotter 4 жыл бұрын
@@WhooptieDo i like the free SL at top tier😋
@prestonang8216
@prestonang8216 4 жыл бұрын
Turnfighting? Laughs in Venom
@JockeyStrappers
@JockeyStrappers 4 жыл бұрын
translation to more vague terms: rule 1: nobody wins a headbutt rule 2: you can't make that jump without a running start rule 3: don't waste your potential on lowlifes rule 4: the deeper the hole you dig the harder to get out of it rule 5: don't try to 1v1 in a cage match
@hitleposixv167
@hitleposixv167 4 жыл бұрын
That's bullshit, I will play the game as I want and not as one youtube noob tell me
@CornMatterToo
@CornMatterToo 4 жыл бұрын
Hitlepos IXV HAHAHAHA you’re the guy who crashes on runway.
@hitleposixv167
@hitleposixv167 4 жыл бұрын
@@CornMatterToo btw I don't remember such a thing, for the enemy team...=faster and easier win
@CornMatterToo
@CornMatterToo 4 жыл бұрын
Hitlepos IXV what
@mr.randomguy1401
@mr.randomguy1401 4 жыл бұрын
Lel this guy is just gonna come in and shit on probably 1 of the best jet pilots in WT like he’s some kind of god Also please don’t listen to him and full commit head on without evading cuz that’s more free kills 4 me
@KILLGAMERSCOOT4LIFE
@KILLGAMERSCOOT4LIFE 4 жыл бұрын
i'm blaming the premiums and you've hit all the nails on the head, jets are very frustrating currently
@WhooptieDo
@WhooptieDo 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, and I hope this video gets to all the premium players. I really do.
@casey360360
@casey360360 4 жыл бұрын
@@WhooptieDo they're not going to listen. The issue is these players have so much ego that they think they're the best.
@shushuntershuntershunt5157
@shushuntershuntershunt5157 4 жыл бұрын
@@WhooptieDo you'll find them on redit spamming "DEErRR hash dER taggg DERRR fix da gaimme DERRR"
@_lo8241
@_lo8241 4 жыл бұрын
FiX mY kD gAiJiN
@aksmex2576
@aksmex2576 4 жыл бұрын
You should single out the premium players. I bought a plane and got good. Now I see regular players and premiums acting like idiots doing it all wrong.
@michaelrunkat6115
@michaelrunkat6115 4 жыл бұрын
Im relatively new to my squadron and one day on discord theyre amazed that I can "read my enemies movements". Then I realized they have no clue the C key exists...
@WhooptieDo
@WhooptieDo 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think it's pretty common these days
@astifeux5787
@astifeux5787 2 жыл бұрын
XD people don’t know that is a thing? I thought it was common knowledge
@itsystryke
@itsystryke 2 жыл бұрын
@@astifeux5787 lol
@SPFLDAngler
@SPFLDAngler Жыл бұрын
What’s the C key?… I play with a HOTAS I don’t use a keyboard
@michaelrunkat6115
@michaelrunkat6115 Жыл бұрын
@@SPFLDAngler its a freelook key basically
@antonsis
@antonsis 4 жыл бұрын
It's actually good to be dead with one kill nowadays - it's almost a win. Most of the matches I'm dead with 1-3 kills, and all my teammates are dead with 0.
@Yukiyak0
@Yukiyak0 4 жыл бұрын
Anton S but think of all the help you would have given to your team if you didnt die
@f-j-Services
@f-j-Services 4 жыл бұрын
Some planes cant profit with 1 or even 2 kills and a death, example is f-80. Takes 3 kills to profit. 2 kills and 8 ground strikes can get you 16.5k SL right now. The death costs 19xxx. No g-suit and stock hydraulics. F-86-F2 needs a kill + a couple ground kills. The 4,500 SL that is free for playing in the match for 3 mins does help though.
@antonsis
@antonsis 4 жыл бұрын
@@f-j-Services most jets aren't for profit at all. It's better to just relax and farm silver on a nice prem, like D13.
@Asghaad
@Asghaad 4 жыл бұрын
its no good being alive with zero kills when the rest of the team crumbled around you, Whoop here is advocating for one thing that gets him to face 1v6 most often - guys that get shot down without a kill which someone having enemy on his 6 while already engaged is more than likely outcome there were a lot of times where i KNEW i had several enemies on my tail while trying to finish an enemy (followed by "hit" hit" hit" usually) and still focused on finishing the target ... if i have 2 or more enemies behind me im done for, at best i might force them to dump ammo and energy to get me but as im 9 out of 10 matches in uptier there is basically no point in trying to save your ass in that situation ... all you are going to do is die anyway but throw away the chance of at least scoring one kill
@lmao.3661
@lmao.3661 4 жыл бұрын
*me, vibing in my spitfires:* Interesting
@Thigas1809
@Thigas1809 4 жыл бұрын
Me, in my Yak-1
@burebistta1923
@burebistta1923 4 жыл бұрын
me in my yak 9t: why did they take the yak 3 and put a jet engine on it
@IGNACY-fp8zo
@IGNACY-fp8zo 4 жыл бұрын
Thiago The Yak-1 is extremely good in my opinion, one of my favorite early planes
@BC_Jerome9141
@BC_Jerome9141 3 жыл бұрын
Props are a bit more fun anyway
@martijn9568
@martijn9568 4 жыл бұрын
This might not only be applicable to jets, but most are also applicable to props. Also my take on climbing, climb to combat altitude, unless an enemy appears. If that happens, accelerate to combat speed.
@WhooptieDo
@WhooptieDo 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, you're very correct.... And this is something that I plan on covering in a future vid
@martijn9568
@martijn9568 4 жыл бұрын
@@WhooptieDo Quick side note: Climbing is not wrong, according to Adam's research. But as you pointed out going into combat with no speed and only altitude isn't right.
@dsdy1205
@dsdy1205 3 жыл бұрын
@@martijn9568 If you're climbing at your best climb speed, this should not be a problem because you're also at your best accelerating speed. Also if you expand the "oh shit I've started an engagement" threshold from the usual 2km or so to 5km+ then there's more than enough time to build up a healthy combat speed
@huntermurphy2148
@huntermurphy2148 4 жыл бұрын
Im digging the movie screen looking videos. Looks nice
@WhooptieDo
@WhooptieDo 4 жыл бұрын
21:9 is the way of the future :-).
@theraindog9141
@theraindog9141 4 жыл бұрын
Keeping cool and not hard evading everyone who might look at you for 0.2 sec takes time and experience to get the hang of, but it ties into situational awareness, and keeps you alive in the long run. I think getting the hang of that and managing my energy was probably the turning point in my jet game
@zbarsky
@zbarsky 4 жыл бұрын
Which is why if you have skipped early jets and grinded to the top jets, one should go back and master them. Going back to the 262 and F-80 from the cannon Sabre helped my jet game a huge amount. Energy management is hugely important.
@darthjarjarbinks8953
@darthjarjarbinks8953 4 жыл бұрын
ZB not even gonna lie, f80 is one of the best American jets in game. F84 is very good too. But I do agree though, you need to master those jets before you master a Sabre.
@angus9523
@angus9523 4 жыл бұрын
Thx for making this video really. i had bought the Swift(my first jet) and i just kept losing matches, kept dying and losing money, but after watching this and applied it to my gameplay the improvement was so major, i went from not making any kills and just die to making 3 kills per match and win.Keep it up with the videos.
@WhooptieDo
@WhooptieDo 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped dude. Thanks
@davidmorton6406
@davidmorton6406 4 жыл бұрын
5 things your doing wrong with jets: 1 - playing jets 2 - playing jets 3 - playing jets 4 - playing jets 5 - playing arcade jets
@rogerthat3157
@rogerthat3157 3 жыл бұрын
What's your point?
@patron1589
@patron1589 4 жыл бұрын
I've started playing jet with France (not the best I know ) I've seen ur 2 videos abouts head on and C key , thx you for all the good advice , helped a lot ! keep the good work , I'm actually using the super Mystere with the AA nord missile and thx too you I get 1 or 2 kills every games , thx a lot ! need giving advice like that u are helping the community at your level !
@WhooptieDo
@WhooptieDo 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks bud, glad they're helping you.
@knappe3223
@knappe3223 4 жыл бұрын
Ive been playing for years, im terrible at jets, thanks for the videos, subbed. Tanks is my thing.
@WhooptieDo
@WhooptieDo 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@turkeyboy5543
@turkeyboy5543 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm kind of in the same boat. Although, I suck at 10.3 tanks. 9.0 best BR for modern tanks imo.
@WhooptieDo
@WhooptieDo 4 жыл бұрын
Tanks don't fly that well, no matter how hard I try. I just can't get into them.
@turkeyboy5543
@turkeyboy5543 4 жыл бұрын
WhooptieDo One of my friends managed to RAM my airborn OS2U with his R3 T20. We sent it to thundershow, but no luck.
@John-me2ng
@John-me2ng 4 жыл бұрын
The one thing your doing wrong is actually playing top tier at all. Play mid and low tiers its much more fun im telling you this from experience
@WhooptieDo
@WhooptieDo 4 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter what tier you're at. People do this at every rank.
@bias_remover7229
@bias_remover7229 4 жыл бұрын
5 Things You're Probably Doing Wrong in Jets Number 1: You play Jets
@plague6566
@plague6566 4 жыл бұрын
Number 2:Lol u can't aim Number 3: premium jets
@FranchDressing
@FranchDressing 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, bobross ultrawide guy!
@WhooptieDo
@WhooptieDo 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, humble KZfaq citizen!!!
@iwishiknewhowto1228
@iwishiknewhowto1228 4 жыл бұрын
This is the pain of flying solo instead of squads
@KILLERMEXICAN210
@KILLERMEXICAN210 4 жыл бұрын
All fun and games until an I15 comes.
@huey9213
@huey9213 4 жыл бұрын
You really should have more subscribers! Keep up the great work
@WhooptieDo
@WhooptieDo 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Getting there.
@QuantumChance
@QuantumChance 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for making good informative videos, good quality, and not having an annoying / overly loud voice really is unique these days ;)
@WhooptieDo
@WhooptieDo 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I'm overly critical of myself so I'm trying!
@MtnTiggr
@MtnTiggr 3 жыл бұрын
"A jet with no speed is a dead jet."
@thecommenter9678
@thecommenter9678 Жыл бұрын
Why does every youtuber think extremely long and LOUD intro music is required? Despite that, the video was basic but informative, I've gone from props to 10.3 instantly, my friend insisted that he gift me the F-5C so i could "Suffer as he suffers" and I was struggling to do anything but die. This advice helped a little. So thanks.
@WhooptieDo
@WhooptieDo Жыл бұрын
You might wanna consider turning your volume down then.
@thecommenter9678
@thecommenter9678 Жыл бұрын
@@WhooptieDo I had to turn it down for the music, then back up for your voice, That indicates a audio balance issue not a volume setting issue. It's not a dig at you personally, it's a general pet peeve of mine when the video starts with a loud intro and then gets quiet to the point i have to increase volume to hear it. Take it how you like personal opinions are like A**holes everyone has them, i just say mine out loud. Not trying to grind your gears or anything and i hope you didn't take it that way.
@exseque21
@exseque21 4 жыл бұрын
Number 1: playing jets.
@rodrigonogueiramota4433
@rodrigonogueiramota4433 4 жыл бұрын
recently discovered this game and absolutely loved it. it´s a fun "battle royale" thing but on a realistic scenario. still on 2 level planes (YAK1 and MIG3) and enjoy the "everybody shoots everybody" dogfight. except with the Nimrod damm this plane is slow you should thank God if you hit somebody. fight against an I-15 or a YAK1 is asking to be killed
@hvhhvvggg8663
@hvhhvvggg8663 3 жыл бұрын
It's not battle royal it's supposed to be about team work between two opposite teams but people just split up and rarely help each other
@eiteiei4063
@eiteiei4063 3 жыл бұрын
"It's not a carrier plane" The wing: *NAVY*
@balazsortutay2482
@balazsortutay2482 4 жыл бұрын
Tip from me: It's better to stay alive with 2-3 assists then die with 1 kill. This same 5 mistake list is present in US prop planes.
@WhooptieDo
@WhooptieDo 4 жыл бұрын
I like that mentality. If only more people would adopt that.
@neonhorizons5800
@neonhorizons5800 4 жыл бұрын
The one problem i have with the first one is that every head on, if the enemy breaks off or doesn't commit to it fully, i can just shoot them as they turn, most of my head on kills are people trying to turn away during a head on.
@leonardogoulart3245
@leonardogoulart3245 4 жыл бұрын
-"when you're in a bomber with guns, someone tries to intercept you, you go full head on, he tries to turn away and still you kill him." :D
@skyflier8955
@skyflier8955 4 жыл бұрын
Whooptie, I have nothing but respect for you, but I will keep doing “full commit” headons. I know how to do head ons, and when I pull off I always get hit. I’ve taken a Narval in a headon in a 162, and I wasn’t scared, and I came out undamaged. I can do head ons good, reliably. Amazing video, I will show everyone I know.
@WhooptieDo
@WhooptieDo 4 жыл бұрын
😳
@giathuanleviet4138
@giathuanleviet4138 4 жыл бұрын
So basically : 1. You're not a propellor plane. 2. Du bist kein Propellorflugzeug 3. Angery German ranting
@wtnator2131
@wtnator2131 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I want to speak about those and many other Problems for long time. Tried to do it with different War Thunder KZfaqrs, but they decline to speak/make content about this kind of Topics for whatever reasons. Games consist of roughly two Systems: The Creators and the Customers/ Players. If the Creators do not want to change some stuff for better gameplay it is up for the Community of Players to change some things to improve the gameplay. Overall more intelligent and social behaviour but also many other things. Every individual Person needs to make our Environment better because thinking that others might do that is the biggest mistake. Maybe we can talk via Ts/Discord some day ;) Keep it on with the improvements!
@lllllllllllllllII
@lllllllllllllllII 4 жыл бұрын
I just started playing this game so im a tier 2 plane
@danehampe2972
@danehampe2972 4 жыл бұрын
You got a long hard journey ahead my friend
@matthewthomas7160
@matthewthomas7160 4 жыл бұрын
I started when corona closed school in March and now I’m at low tier jets
@villashawg897
@villashawg897 4 жыл бұрын
@@matthewthomas7160 Which nation?
@matthewthomas7160
@matthewthomas7160 4 жыл бұрын
USA aircraft
@tomasrosado7098
@tomasrosado7098 4 жыл бұрын
Ur video give True advices but its easier to say "hey, play better !" when u fly a hunter or g91
@CynicallyObnoxious
@CynicallyObnoxious 4 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say Im a fairly new player played on and off for a year barely just now getting into low tier jets 6.7 same wiht tanks and your videos help immensely
@WhooptieDo
@WhooptieDo 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks bud! Glad they are helping you out!
@CynicallyObnoxious
@CynicallyObnoxious 4 жыл бұрын
@@WhooptieDo They are I know guys like you dont hear but what you do does help new players be slightly less ass
@monarch5480
@monarch5480 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks this helped a lot
@kilianfirebolt
@kilianfirebolt 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like new players dont know how to open up the game, like they dont know what to do. Should they rush? should they camp? should they just climb and hope for the best? these players need these kinds of videos.
@luciussatchell9709
@luciussatchell9709 3 жыл бұрын
this really helped me a lot as a new jet player
@SMPlayerSlayer
@SMPlayerSlayer 4 жыл бұрын
There's only one thing more frustrating than when I fly my phantom to 30k ft, just to see my entire team trying to turn fight on the deck (If you want to turn fight fly mustangs, 109s, and spits.), and that is when I come up behind an enemy chasing a friendly... I'm lined up perfectly going mach1.3.... 2mi out.... friendly does a 180 turn towards me.... enemy follows him into a sharp turn and my shot is ruined, forcing me to pull off and sacrifice all my energy if I decide to turn around and try again. I've baited so many people just by turning away from my team mate so that they could get on the enemy 6 and save my butt. It's not that hard because like he said, most players get tunnel vision on the one dude they're following. Help me help you and turn away from me, not in to me.
@doch.8039
@doch.8039 4 жыл бұрын
Number six: you’re playing jets way too much, go back to earlier tiers for some fun
@mrbones_7420
@mrbones_7420 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe you're playing props too much
@SteelxWolf
@SteelxWolf 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe people havent flown an airplane without hand holding mouse aim... its a sweatfest. Jets RB is a CoD match.
@mrbones_7420
@mrbones_7420 4 жыл бұрын
@Adrian he has to use the mousepad on his laptop
@chunkblaster
@chunkblaster 3 жыл бұрын
Just got the panther, and between missiles and uptiers I need to get better. Thanks for the tips.
@KW283
@KW283 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to add two things people shouldn't do in top tier matches. 1. Last second head-ons, because most of the time it's not much different than regular full commit head-on. Really annoying move and not really worth executing, but a lot of people do it. 2. (This one had to be here) Taking props into jet matches, because why not weaken the team just because two or three guys want to have fun.
@xanderwusky3001
@xanderwusky3001 4 жыл бұрын
This current meta is exactly why I like flying the swift f7 so much. It pretty much destroys anyone with no experience. Head-on? Try a fire streak missile from 4km away. If that misses enjoy the 2 Adens then (and obviously still pull off in time) Climbing? Did you say climbing? Well if anything climbs well it's this. I love getting someone on my tail and then showing them the power of that after burner. Only the f5 outclimbs it but you can stay out of that ones sights pretty easily and when you get to stall speeds you turn better Those cannons also make really quick work of anything that's going slow. In the meantime you can easily maintain well over 1000kmh i love it
@WhooptieDo
@WhooptieDo 4 жыл бұрын
It's a great plane for sure!
@Seeker_903
@Seeker_903 3 жыл бұрын
“Don’t dive on your enemy” *proceeds to dive on enemy*
@rn-zu5ld
@rn-zu5ld 4 жыл бұрын
One thing people do wrong is get the F-86-A5 sabre thinking they're going to have fun with it.
@lilac_witch
@lilac_witch 4 жыл бұрын
but it IS fun, and honestly if anything its more forgiving to the noobish players than the other sabres, because of its turn rate since those players will always turn with just about anything
@mamons_2339
@mamons_2339 4 жыл бұрын
I got my first jet after 4 years. I play this game since 2014. Gotta say, my first impression was "oh man, is this jet battle?" Not very satisfied. The player always either die in a headon or crash to the ground or collide eachother. Rare cases was, being team killed by a missile. And uh, my first jet was Me 163 B (MK108 ver) and at 8.0, this thing is hard to play. Idk maybe im not experienced enough or it just not fit in a "jet" battle, since the plane wasnt even a jet powered.
@jlopezleoz0124
@jlopezleoz0124 4 жыл бұрын
Man, I have the Mig9 and Mig15 and I flew for myself, got a kill and died, but since I watched this video I end top score with 3 kills or so. Keep it up with yhe great content
@DatGooz
@DatGooz 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@MegaRoflgames
@MegaRoflgames 2 жыл бұрын
I find the best thing number 2 is go in a test flight and find you angle of climb.
@_lo8241
@_lo8241 4 жыл бұрын
Play props AND don’t buy a premium jet until you have a 1.0KD
@la200dool4
@la200dool4 4 жыл бұрын
oooor, just dont buy any premium until you spade your first jet. (not considerint those 6.7 baby jets)
@Nikarus2370
@Nikarus2370 4 жыл бұрын
TBH this is pointless advice. As frankly prop experience doesn't really amount to much in high tier jets.
@OneMoreDesu
@OneMoreDesu 4 жыл бұрын
Its best to climb at about mach .8, just as you hit transonic drag rather than pushing it to 1000kph.
@MrTaylor1515
@MrTaylor1515 4 жыл бұрын
The problem is: even if you stay alive and help your team, you don't get many RP and SL, only if you get kills you get RP and SL
@WhooptieDo
@WhooptieDo 4 жыл бұрын
You get a decent amount of earnings for assists still. Activity goes a long ways too. As long as you're within 1.5km (guesstimate on the range) of an enemy, you accrue points
@bloodsongsToolreviews
@bloodsongsToolreviews 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot about the mistake of playing Warthunder nearly every day of my life lol
@eb3yr
@eb3yr 3 жыл бұрын
1:15 people dont realise that if they prioritise the team over yourself then you'll likely maximise the chance of winning because you can apply your resources elsewhere, and you get huge bonuses to rp and sl for wins. If you're desperate near the end of a winning match for points then kill AI. Also, headons are a valid tactic. The problem is just full commit. I use headons reliably to merge people who beeline towards me without thinking about positioning - makes sure we're on the same energy level and altitude, and means that they can't slot into me by merging with me on my side. It's easy to dodge headons by kicking the rudder and pitching sideways and then rolling under the guns of the enemy - they cant rapidly pitch down to get you. You also get a chance to get a cheeky pilotsnipe or damaging their engine in props which massively hurts their endurance.
@thezestylime0989
@thezestylime0989 4 жыл бұрын
Because of this summer sale I thought in my infinate wisdom, to buy a jet even though I've never played one before. I've watched plenty of jet videos and did a few test flights to get some of the basics, and the first game I saw it all. Players climbing like props, people focusing one target and leaving themselves on low energy states, people going into headons at every opportunity. 2nd game I played I almost had an ace, but the last guy crashed himself rather than die to my missle. That same game 3 of my team were in props including a pshooter. And I'll say this, fighting in jets speed is indeed life, in a down tier or even slight uptier the only advantage I really have is quantity of missles and my planes maneuverability, (guess what I bought lmao) but an uptier i feel so helpless due to supersonic aircraft everywhere, I cant run, and I'm outgunned, it's very frustrating having just taken off and an f104 is already on my ass
@eb3yr
@eb3yr 3 жыл бұрын
first thing that hit me was nostalgia from that music. Damn.
@ArcFire_Fox
@ArcFire_Fox 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate this video, ive only just reached near top tier for aircraft, but am still not the best pilot. Ground battles are my expertise, but with this I can hopefully be better for both myself, and my team
@lec4203
@lec4203 4 жыл бұрын
When the intro music played I thought that my Spotify was playing lmao
@grum__1
@grum__1 4 жыл бұрын
jokes on you, I don't have jets unlocked yet
@WhooptieDo
@WhooptieDo 4 жыл бұрын
Actually much appreciated tbh, because the problem comes mostly from the people that buy their way into jets without learning how to fly them first.
@thermywermy
@thermywermy 4 жыл бұрын
Top 1 thing people do wrong: Not killing the enemy I'm trying to bait for them in favor of diving after a burning flat spinning missing-half-a-wing phantom.
@WhooptieDo
@WhooptieDo 4 жыл бұрын
This too, goes right along with what I was talking about with selfish players not caring about their team.
@thebritishpatriot7806
@thebritishpatriot7806 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the guide, done me a lot of good when flying jets.
@oflofl7177
@oflofl7177 4 жыл бұрын
Keep the good vids coming
@antonjames4867
@antonjames4867 3 жыл бұрын
Full comit head on's in a saber or mig is a kill for your team
@russianoldschoo48
@russianoldschoo48 4 жыл бұрын
Do a guide on TU-4 please
@burebistta1923
@burebistta1923 3 жыл бұрын
whooptie: its better to stay alive but do no kills than to be bead but have 1 kill me: has no kills and is also dead
@cptflyingfort7147
@cptflyingfort7147 4 жыл бұрын
The number of Hunter F.GA 9s that have stupidly fixated and blown all of their energy trying to outmaneuver my F-86F-2 is beyond belief.
@capitainsheep1137
@capitainsheep1137 3 жыл бұрын
thanks you that help me so not be too focus and don't loose dumbly energie because engine don't accelerate in the blink of an eye :/ well i have a lot to learn from jet
@peniskopf653
@peniskopf653 3 жыл бұрын
the reason why so many players do all of this is simple : jet matches usually last for not more than a few mins at max. sometimes the match is already over when the first enemy blobs hit each other. by then youre pretty much done if you re not flying a top tier aircraft. as an example the g91 in the german tech tree has no hope of ever winning any fight on its own. youre doomed without missiles to fight things like the lightning. youll get constant uptier. everyones faster than you and you cant really outturn anyone too. your retention is shit and then your only chance as a player new to jets is try to pop a few shots in headons and pull off. some commit too much because they know its probably their only chance to net some xp. people wont care about repcosts unless they fly a prop like the ta 152 or sth like that. its the god damn perma uptiers the useless aircraft and the game itself that seems to force people into doing such things. 9/10 games i play in the g91 are like that. you try to pop some shots in the headon watch your team getting slaughtered and then youre doomed to fly defensively for the rest and maybe just MAYBE someone is stupid enough to give you a reverse. even aircraft that are not bad by any means like the mig 15 bis have a big problem of facing constant uptiers not beeing able to play by their strengths and forced to watch their team getting slaughtered. so i can completely understand that some people just want a few xp points wich is the most important thing on jets. noone will care about the silver lions. people dont learn the strengths of their aircraft because theres literally 0 reason to do so in most matches. another problem is that the lowtier jets especially on the german side are a gamble. the me 262 is kinda ok the 163 is a pile of dogshit because everyone knows that youre running out of fuel soon so how should you learn anything if youre not having at least a small piece of light at the end of the tunnel. so you grind your way to the "more useful" ones like the mig 15 only to realize that by doing that you completely lack the knowledge on how to fight in this thing and even if you know how to you realize that in the end youre aggain prey to other jets that are simply better in every stat than you..... if they fixed the br issues you might wait longer for a game if only certain jets would be allowed to fight each other but in the end the playerbase would learn MUCH more slowly climbing their way up the ladder instead of skipping and then getting rekt aggain. for me i stopped playing jets at the g91 and the mig 15 as i dont find it pleasent to face constant uptiers when the difference between the tiers is SO MUCH bigger than on props while you also need so much xp for even the dumbest and most necessary eq. i enjoy flying high tier props like the ta much more than the jet madness and pretty much everyone i know thinks about this the same regardless of having high tier jets like the mig 21.
@sergarlantyrell7847
@sergarlantyrell7847 3 жыл бұрын
The problem I'm finding is that unlike props, because of the BR compression there is 0 learning curve... Immediately you're thrust into games vs higher tier jets who are all faster than you and have missiles especially the op premium ones. So there's very little opportunity for improvement.
@RazerTheDuck
@RazerTheDuck 4 жыл бұрын
No one: Warthunder: *the missle is launched*
@thisguyyyyyyy2723
@thisguyyyyyyy2723 4 жыл бұрын
I think everyone would benefit from more training material in the game; not just basic tutorials that only teach you keybindings, but tutorials that are essentially just missions. You only get better at something like this by doing it over and over, and if new players had access to repeatable single player missions that worked on established principles in the game and in real life, they could more quickly understand the basic functions and theory of the game.
@BaconPuncakesX
@BaconPuncakesX 3 жыл бұрын
some of these things could also be said about prop planes too
@SteelxWolf
@SteelxWolf 4 жыл бұрын
I know im going to get chewed out for saying this but War Thunder RB matches are a sweatfest. Enduring confrontation is just an ongoing match where u can do what you want vs doing the same strategy over and over. Vaas would be disappointed
@dio361
@dio361 4 жыл бұрын
"RUN, you CHICKEN FUCK!"
@KaiserHabsburg
@KaiserHabsburg 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a video. And youv earned a sub. Watched a few other of your videos its good to see a pilot with some actual skill... I do headons at 1.8 i fire in 3 burts and at 1.1-1.2 depending on closing speed i break off and do a rolling reversal normally ending in a split s to get on thier tail.
@turbonut1
@turbonut1 4 жыл бұрын
Tip #6 tips 1-5 are useless provided you don’t get hit
@_lo8241
@_lo8241 4 жыл бұрын
Just dodge bro
@ZakKena
@ZakKena 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice video, as a new player to RB I'm glad you did this I learned alot !!
@antonjames4867
@antonjames4867 3 жыл бұрын
Here is another tip if your in a 2v2 dog fight and you kill one dont leave your buddies to go land and re arm and re fuel if you have a fully functional aircraft, even if your out of ammo the enemy does not know that help your teammate get that last kill by either baiting your buddy to get that last kill or ram the sob on the enemy team to get the win
@jackeeb8266
@jackeeb8266 3 жыл бұрын
I just got my first jet and this is super helpful thanks :)
@jordancourse5102
@jordancourse5102 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I FIND MYSELF THE ONLY ONE IN THE MATCH TEAM PLAYING and side climbing. Not to mention the kill stealing. Lately I’ve found myself to be either being chased down by the entire enemy team when the match starts because my whole team side climbed for no apparent reason or I’m the last man standing because I chose not to commit myself into being trapped.
@AndreLT03
@AndreLT03 4 жыл бұрын
Im still in 5.7 props and play like garbage but i wanna start jets the right way thx for the vid
@asiftalpur3758
@asiftalpur3758 4 жыл бұрын
Skip early jets and get to 8.7. That's where the fun is at
@Turnagater
@Turnagater 4 жыл бұрын
I suck at Jets. Gonna put these into practice
@Xopher222
@Xopher222 4 жыл бұрын
really good videos man. my favourite jet is the f9f-8.
@commonnerfer
@commonnerfer 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t need to climb in a jet.... that makes so much sense
@f-j-Services
@f-j-Services 4 жыл бұрын
Another issue, when someone is in the F100D, you get 4 f4ej or migs behind you all trying to kill you. Then your team doesn't take the bait while they are doing 400 knots.
@WhooptieDo
@WhooptieDo 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. They'll usually go for the one you're trying to kill instead
@f-j-Services
@f-j-Services 4 жыл бұрын
@@WhooptieDo Yep. Over and over, never fails. Oh well.
@stevemcgee6476
@stevemcgee6476 4 жыл бұрын
What would be a good gun convergence for a newbie in jets using a F-86F - 35 (my first jet)?
@rishabhsingh2368
@rishabhsingh2368 4 жыл бұрын
This helped me a lot Thank you. Please bring more tips on jet gameplay.
@jz4tigerblue
@jz4tigerblue 3 жыл бұрын
6th people with Phantom doing a dogfight against MiG - 21, 7th people with IQ 20 playing with Phantoms II
@Doomspain
@Doomspain 4 жыл бұрын
Your intros are the best man, so epic!
@davidb3155
@davidb3155 2 жыл бұрын
This was helpful. I prefer jets over props and it just sucks that the first ranks don't set you up for jet combat.
@krijndees
@krijndees 4 жыл бұрын
It happens on every battle rating just like I killed a fw200 on br 2.7 and it wasn't fully dead but falling to the ground and everyone just dove on it instead of attacking working planes just so they would get that kill
@warhead_beast7661
@warhead_beast7661 4 жыл бұрын
Things that i notice that jet pilots as early as they unlock missles completly forget about their guns
@SucculentToast
@SucculentToast 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the main struggle for me is that I’m just ass at the game, and when I try to help the team I get no kills and get zero progress done on my research.
@salokin2410
@salokin2410 4 жыл бұрын
hey man, I was wondering if you could make the enemy color different (maybe red or yellow, something that contrasts the blue well) during replays? I'm colorblind and it's very difficult to tell the difference.
@jager2237
@jager2237 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the vid mate.i subbed.
@icedwhitechocolatemochafra9851
@icedwhitechocolatemochafra9851 4 жыл бұрын
I do the old meta of staying on deck and rushing in my cl 13 but the whole enemy team gets on my six with faster mig 17s and teammates focus on the 1 or 2 people that ignored me. Current meta is cancer.
@maggi98mw
@maggi98mw 4 жыл бұрын
Adjust then
@xanderwusky3001
@xanderwusky3001 4 жыл бұрын
So dont do that then, what I like to do now is get speed. Climb to 2000-4000meter and then go from there. Works great.
@icedwhitechocolatemochafra9851
@icedwhitechocolatemochafra9851 4 жыл бұрын
@@maggi98mw i dont like playing passive. Its easy and boring.
@icedwhitechocolatemochafra9851
@icedwhitechocolatemochafra9851 4 жыл бұрын
@@xanderwusky3001 even if i climb to 2 ish k enemies are st that alt with me and if i dive they also get speed so its not worth it. My cl also loses speed if it stays at that alt, and even if i do perform maneuvers to reverse enemies either im able to kill one guy and bam 20k rep cost cuz 6 people are still behind me and my team focused on a vatour or are at high alt with no speed.
@xanderwusky3001
@xanderwusky3001 4 жыл бұрын
@@icedwhitechocolatemochafra9851 then you are just doing it wrong. I'm currently flying the f86f2 a whole bunch and it's great no problems with it and it's pretty much the same as the cl13
@macmillanspattv6974
@macmillanspattv6974 4 жыл бұрын
Me : play as a team will be great . Gaijin : ka50
@Majima_Nowhere
@Majima_Nowhere 3 жыл бұрын
8:45 That shot was _nasty._
@musakotze2881
@musakotze2881 2 жыл бұрын
the thing i have a real problem with is that you fly for 10 minutes actually getting to the fight and either the entire enemy team is dead already or everyone is alive and they all flock to you and theres no way to outrun US jets while in soviet jets at 8.7
@subject204ghost3
@subject204ghost3 4 жыл бұрын
Right before i played the g91 r3 i basically only played the do335b. And really all i had to do was take a similar mentality to the d0335b playstyle and apply it to the g91. - Keep your speed up because your acceleration isnt as good as any of the other planes. Dont do vertical turns because youll bleed too much speed. Dont commit to head ons because even slight damage can make merely flying a chore. Dont dive because you compress like a mofo. Climb at a rate where your still gaining speed. Dont spray and pray. - Im not a good jet pilot but at least i know the basics.
@WhooptieDo
@WhooptieDo 4 жыл бұрын
Vertical turns are for sure a big no no in G91. You sound like you grinded your way to jets, which is the way it should be. Despite it being long and painful at times, the problems arise from the players who bought their way into jets.
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