50 Year Transfer Embargo | FM22 Experiment
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Күн бұрынWelcome to TomFM! In today's Football Manager 2022 experiment video I put every club from the top 5 leagues in Europe, the Premier League, La Liga, Bundesliga, Serie A and Ligue 1, under a 50 year transfer embargo to see how it affected those clubs, who would survive and who would fail. But it was also really interesting to see in this FM22 experiment how new clubs came through and dominated World Football.
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@loltangera 2 жыл бұрын
It occurred to me that Brentford don't have a youth academy in real life, presumably that's the same in the game. I guess they couldn't produce any decent regens.
@crigiu2118 Жыл бұрын
Why don’t they
@loganbattison3940 Жыл бұрын
@@crigiu2118 they do now I think but it was due to finances
@GajeelRedfox Жыл бұрын
@@crigiu2118 They opted for a B-team route instead.
@Alphoric Жыл бұрын
@@crigiu2118 it’s part of the reason they’re doing good now they got their priorities right instead of some clubs
@barnabyhope12 Жыл бұрын
They won 8 league titles in his save though
@Kimera794 2 жыл бұрын
Southampton winning the PL in 2067 and getting relegated within two years was bizarre
@Istorian 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea Tom! It would be interesting to release the embargo after 50 years and check after 50 more years to see who's back up!
@paddyfeerick790 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea
@haninditabudhi6574 2 жыл бұрын
During transfer embargo is it still posibble to give contract to free players? I havent encounter any transfer ban (FFP ban nor Board takeover ban) 😁😁
@wiv_pro 2 жыл бұрын
@@haninditabudhi6574 no contracts to players from other clubs.
@johanjacobsen393 2 жыл бұрын
would also be interesting to check the Ballon d'Or and see at which clubs the winners played for
@llSuperSnivyll 2 жыл бұрын
It's quite fitting that Milan stayed in the top flight while Inter didn't, considering Inter's foundation being because they wanted to allow foreigners in the team.
@FlexelklexGaming 2 жыл бұрын
As a supporter of the german football club Hansa Rostock i'm looking forward to see us lifting the Europa league-trophy in 2069 👌 Great video👍
@Sodomizxr Жыл бұрын
Auswärts wollen wir fliegen - Real Madrid besiegen!
@syauqirashadSR 2 жыл бұрын
What would be interesting is if you actually have a transfer embargo on the top 5 leagues and not the teams in the top 5 leagues, idk if that's possible but that would definitely have a huge effect on europe
@Marlong. 2 жыл бұрын
As a German i can say: Holy shit i would die to see this Bundesliga for one season in real life!! Really nice video
@Teratox 2 жыл бұрын
Ja aber fehlen schon ein paar Vereine
@jameswg13 2 жыл бұрын
Remind me to show my two current FM bundesliga seasons
@ChaosFleischer 2 жыл бұрын
Wäre cool wenn er auch noch die 3 liga gezeigt hätte aber naja
@Sodomizxr Жыл бұрын
hansa zurück in der Bundesliga ist auch etwas was wirklich erst in 70 Jahren klappt
@tobyv6087 Жыл бұрын
@@jameswg13 Ok
@stockportlad8560 Жыл бұрын
The craziest thing about the National League North is that Slough, Cheltenham, Charlton, Chelmsford, Harrow and St. Albans were in it....
@samuelpinder1215 Жыл бұрын
And wealdstone and wycombe had previously won it
@joca8129 2 жыл бұрын
Castrense plays currently in the 5th division in Portugal (regional leagues) and have won the Euro League twice there lol
@lucian-ionutstoian6210 2 жыл бұрын
I think it would be fun to watch a series with this twist because you have no clue of which player is good based on your previous experience. For example try to bring back Tottenham in this save or even teams in 2nd divion like Bayern or PSG.
@yaroslavmatveev9297 2 жыл бұрын
Solihull Moors - just wow. Also Brentford's drop of grace was quite weird. Thank you for the video, Tom - it was fun :)
@joehayes3431 2 жыл бұрын
its because they don't actually have an academy
@felixdale3950 2 жыл бұрын
@@joehayes3431 but I don't understand how they dominated the league in the late 20s
@joehayes3431 2 жыл бұрын
@@felixdale3950 it’s because their current squad is very young and all have high potential in key areas
@felixdale3950 2 жыл бұрын
@@joehayes3431 I meant late 30s and 40s 😂
@joehayes3431 2 жыл бұрын
@@felixdale3950 oh haha just a massive club ig
@ernestbany8147 2 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is Real Madrit B was demoted to third tier despite winning 2 tier 3 years in a row!!! Thats because main team dropped from 1 tier and Spanish rules make same team in 1 league impossible
@dis_joint_ed5167 2 жыл бұрын
Funnier than Colchester being the 2067 Europa League winners though?
@jamesmcshane1914 Жыл бұрын
In a season were the a side gets relegated and the b side does enough for promotion, why couldn't they swap?
@oleksandrsuglobov8563 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesmcshane1914 cause team A should be higher than team B. Like here Espanyol got relegated from La Liga and Espanyol B got relegated despite win the Segunda title.
@dkd4466 2 жыл бұрын
i just want to point out that the Serie A european place are changed. the other 4 leagues surprisingly havent changed but Italy has. This means the quality of Serie A clubs in the UCL has dropped significantly. You can tell by the 2 UCL spots for Serie A which means the "quality" in the league is good but as soon as these clubs enter the UCL they are probably out in the group stages. It wouldn't surprise me if Portugal and Holland got more UCL spots at the expense of Italy
@nickd6408 2 жыл бұрын
3:08 is this the league ranking on the right?
@dkd4466 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickd6408 the league ranking partially is a part of it. Though when he's showing Serie A, you can only see 3 coloured spots. Blue is champions league Green is europa league Green-yellow is the conference league
@m1987montieth 2 жыл бұрын
Go ten/fifteen years into the future after the ban and see if the bigger teams can work their way back into the top leagues.
@JL-if5bm 2 жыл бұрын
You love to see a good experiment. Would be a great idea to pick up a save after the embargo ends. Maybe to all European League's and their top 4 League's and see what happens.
@bananaben366 2 жыл бұрын
I used to play for Solihull Moors so proud moment in a completely non real simulation
@anno9422 2 жыл бұрын
Telstar reached the Europa League Final in 2055/56 😳
@garethhorton4142 2 жыл бұрын
Great content love these kind of uploads
@meowwww9275 2 жыл бұрын
Must be easier for teams that can still buy to rise through the leagues because out of contract players would be theirs to cherry pick from, Solihull Moors must have got high enough to have enough rep to start stockpiling amazing freebies.
@samuelschonenberger 2 жыл бұрын
Hamburg, Schalke and Las Palmas dominating Europe, what a fever dream But Hamburg and Schalke make sense since they are two of the biggest German clubs, they just mismanaged their way to the 2nd Bundesliga
@romanscerbak5167 Жыл бұрын
By the way, Racing Santander has not been in La Liga for years now. Probably closer to a decade at this point. They have just been promoted back to La Liga 2 in 2021/22 season actually. How did Brentford lose twice in a row the UCL finals and then dropped to non-league? Mysteries... Also Castrense have enjoyed some titles. That's something. Was a pleasure seeing Grazer AK in european cups. Hopefully they reach Bundesliga finally. Also Hertha has a successful season with a final of Europa League just 2 years prior and then got relegated. FC Dnipro vibes... But Solihull Moors are the diamond of this game.
@MiguelBCanal Жыл бұрын
I am Portuguese and I recognize the Castrense name. They play amateur league currently (5ºdivison). I am surprised they managed to get some European cups.
@yellowscarlightningscream8347 2 жыл бұрын
Germany and Italy has the best youth setup along with Portugal. No surprise there when English and spanish clubs stop buying players from those leagues and they dominated because now they can retain their top players
@darthvulture 2 жыл бұрын
def do a video on just solihull moors, that was awesome that they had somehow done it in such a dominating fashion!
@erethjallsen8819 2 жыл бұрын
Love the vid Tom
@kevinb9830 Жыл бұрын
It's quite disappointing to see how FM can allow a multiple premier league winning team to still have terrible facilities and a 3k stadium.
@indexpictures Жыл бұрын
the game has been bad for details like that this year. the newest updates haven't even added the 5 subs rule for this coming season. probably the first year i've ever been disappointed with it, I think it was made almost entirely remote during the pandemic tbf
@nikossak48 Жыл бұрын
19:30 you missed Mexico winning the 2022 World Cup !
@ToTheNines87368 Жыл бұрын
It be interesting to actually play a game like this where every team is on even footing when it comes to transfer embargo. And you have to make the best out it with your youth facilities.
@EchtEenMilan Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@dutchmapper6314 Жыл бұрын
For people who dont know much about Dutch football, the 55/56 Final with Telstar who in rl have been in the Dutch second tier since 1979 and with their highest ranking in that league being 4th in 82. what a bloody suprise that is. i really wana see the state of the Eredivisie in this game save.
@mikelitorous5570 2 жыл бұрын
I remember I seen a video which went a thousand years into the future and a player with my dads full name and the team we support was the best player in the world and it creeped me out. Especially when we don’t have a popular surname
@sirbadger5347 2 жыл бұрын
Such a strange experiment, almost predictable at times. Of course teams with transfer embargos are going to struggle, interesting to see if everyone had the embargo.
@mmd9 2 жыл бұрын
im still trying to understand how a team that is currently in the 5th division in portugal has won the europa league... twice (fc castrense)
@thomasmcloughlin8529 Жыл бұрын
Be interesting to see a mirror image of the leagues, so prem teams conference championship to league 2 and league 1 stay where they are.
@ido278 Жыл бұрын
You should do it again but 10 years skip and then 20 It's too much years. We want to see how teams will manage to play in the short time.
@andymanser2523 2 жыл бұрын
I think a deep dive into the English league from this file is needed. How did Brentford dominate and now out yne league and how are Solihull winning woth a 3k capacity stadium. And the mighty Gas 3rd in the Premier league, you love to see it.
@MrHoopski 2 жыл бұрын
i dont think they would be allowed play in the stadium , I think there is a min stadium capacity
@Farmerh01 Жыл бұрын
If that actually happened in really life 1) could imagine clubs legal teams been busy as hell 2) clubs construction team be extra busy - 3) they be a new fight club for scouts ( winner gets player )
@dermimey8518 2 жыл бұрын
What happened in the 2nd spanish league at 8:55? Real Madrid's B team won the league in 2067/68 and 2068/69, but are in the 3rd division the season after. Does that mean that Real Madrid's main team was just promoted? Because as far as I know, a club can't play in the same division as it's B team. If I'm not wrong here, that would be mental tbh edit: Austria winning the euros in 2068 aigainst Germany, whilst also being host with Switzerland is kinda funny to see as an Austrian myself
@bcfcbennjy99 Жыл бұрын
Solihull Moors are my local non league side. Pleasantly surprised about this video!
@DenFynskeMessias 2 жыл бұрын
OB in the conference league final! I've never been this happy
@edwardwaddell7718 2 жыл бұрын
Future looking bright for Bristol City!
@Mr__Snrub 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who lives just around the corner from Damson Park this is very strange to see
@henryeaton9725 2 жыл бұрын
Mexico won the WC in 2022?!?
@novaxela 2 жыл бұрын
is there a way you could lock transfers to countries and nationality of players? so prem teams can only buy english or welsh
@niki.4685 2 жыл бұрын
can u maybe link the file to the save in the desc for future expiriments so we can chechk our own things also :) great vid
@jacksonbow2766 Жыл бұрын
I live how it's allegedly Man City Homegrown when they have access to youth academies from like 7 other good clubs around the world they own. They and Red Bull just consume the best players from the other academies, so nit really homegrown.
@f5l0uie40 8 ай бұрын
I love how Eric Garcia was sacked by a German second divison club in 2070.
@ch3mn3y Жыл бұрын
Wish there was a way to make country specific embargo, so will seee clubs with only their own nations (dunno UK, but). Not just main leagues, but whole countries.
@mrorlov2706 Жыл бұрын
I think it is possible to do as i have seen some people do complete legionere limit saves for some countries.
@Mmatycoon Жыл бұрын
This is an interesting experiment. The main take away from me is that the game is not very well designed. As you say, the big Championship teams (Forest, Sheffield United etc) should come in and take over, if the logic was programmed well. If you test a good sim game, it should perform as you'd expect in real life, or it's not working properly.
@marcusfranconium3392 Жыл бұрын
Just a question , is it posible to recreate the old pre 1995 rules changes on maximum number of foreign players and transfers . As that would make some interesting leagues and results. a champions league where only champions could compete , makes you wonder how things turn out.
@jimidave6281 Жыл бұрын
Can't believe you glossed over Aldershot having an "invincibles" season!
@hibserpool Жыл бұрын
If you go to History>Landmarks it tells you about takeovers so may explain Solihull
@mrorlov2706 Жыл бұрын
There was a Lyon at French National league.
@footballrevolutionbulgaria 2 жыл бұрын
Good idea, mate, but not quite good execution. It's normal for Schalke and Hamburger to dominate the league, as they are in the 2nd division at the start, even tho they are quite rich in the game. It will be more interesting to ban ALL transfers in the game. This will make teams use only youth academy products, like all teams, not only top-tier teams.
@DrZaius3141 Жыл бұрын
It's funny to me that RB Salzburg has been to 6 european finals (1 CL, 4 EL, 1 ECL) without winning, yet WSG, BW Linz and Klagenfurt all managed to snag a title for Austria. It's odd considering their ability to scout talent from weaker leagues before dumping them off to big teams. With the biggest leagues under embargo, they'd still have Haaland, Mane, Minamino, Keita, Szoboslai, Daka, Hwang, etc.
@aaron24wood 2 жыл бұрын
Saw your tiktok. Great idea, despite the fact Man United didn't thrive given their Academy.
@BD-yl5mh Жыл бұрын
It’s always weird in these to see teams that shouldn’t have been affected also fall down. Unless I’m blind, Wrexham seemed to disappear from the playable leagues. Just seems bizarre that all the teams falling from above wouldn’t naturally pull national league teams up
@Goiania2121 Жыл бұрын
in Bundesliga 2/3 of the Teams changed. So its a big change.
@manning0 Жыл бұрын
What always gets me is, how many southern teams end up in the 6th tier of English football, the National League South, in these experiments. There must be if geographically, Harrow have been placed in the northern league. Harrow is the most stereotypically southern place in England I could imagine.
@Kvh47 Жыл бұрын
I expected the Eredivisie to gain more on the other leagues with the transfer ban since it is a good competition for young talents but the best players always go on transfer to the 5 biggest competitions
@joaocoelho9294 Жыл бұрын
Sounds Like the Bwin League ( Portugal ) luckily ,for you, Ajax just snatched Francisco Conceição, as he is considered a great propect for future Football in Portugal
@liamfenlon9024 Жыл бұрын
Should have looked at Burnley! They got Europe with the embargo
@syteanric Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see the Solihull rise video
@jigglyemzfm1585 Жыл бұрын
so i just downloaded this save file Patreon Sub version and saw that some of the teams the embargo isnt in place while others its in place till 2301. went to launch in at 2065 file as the dates after that dont seem to work. but was dissapointed to see the only playable nation as Wales, when i tried to add the major nations as playable the game crashed. probably because some of the clubs also seem to have over a billion pound stadium rent which explains why they do so bad
@Azrael_YTB 2 жыл бұрын
That's mental how far teams have fallen
@PabloLopez-cp6go 2 жыл бұрын
“Racing are in the first tier at the start of this” man i wish
@AurioDK 2 жыл бұрын
The youth draw is one big lottery, so it makes sense that things get shuffled. That´s only one problem, the other being that some teams don´t produce much youth if any at all. Another can of worms is players and their unhappiness if not given the right contract because the club can´t afford the wages, do they just leave and end up rotting in the list? This also probably means that a club like Man Utd. released a lot of semi decent players on a free instead of keeping them.
@shimali2011 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Tom I was looking for your experiment save file on patreon but couldn't find it you didn't upload yet?
@Robi2009 Жыл бұрын
That Brendford case needs investigation ;o
@PerticaJr Жыл бұрын
Full trasnfer embargo to all clubs in the World. There we can see which continent has the best academy in the World
@raphaelcuriosolima6267 2 жыл бұрын
Experiment suggestion: what if you make a few tweaks on editor to make all major europe nations and leagues sunk down and another nations (like Portugal, austria, belgium, croatia and so on) became top class nations and leagues?
@raphaelcuriosolima6267 2 жыл бұрын
You could add embargos to top nations, lower down the youth rating, and do the opposite to another leagues 😬
@macario8836 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean with Portugal is not a football top class league/nation??? JK, unfortunately I know we aren't.
@Z0md1 2 жыл бұрын
It's really nice for me to see 1860 Munich as champions league winners
@frafrafrafrafra 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see my team, Cosenza, winning Serie A, the conference and europa league
@mmunakumm Жыл бұрын
si popu nu cosentino
@frafrafrafrafra Жыл бұрын
@@mmunakumm a capì
@SoonerJetta 2 жыл бұрын
Look at doing a transfer embargo on USA and Mexico leagues.
@danielrazzell7908 2 жыл бұрын
Brentford dropping to the Isthmian league but also winning the Premier League 8 times.
@denja964 2 жыл бұрын
Notice the little change to Bundesliga, due to the high amounts of homegrown players ;)
@FlyingSandile 2 жыл бұрын
Real Madrid B won LaLiga, but had to relegate due to their first team I think
@frank9109 Жыл бұрын
As a Dortmund fan I have to say.....nightmare. 😂
@MikeOnslow 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that Real Madrid's B team were the title holders means they were arguably better than their relegated first team that season!? Obviously would've had to have been relegated despite finishing first when the 1st team came down 😂
@zetsokuro2614 2 жыл бұрын
Tottenham Tottenham down in the a national league you love to see it
@AlLuiPigus Жыл бұрын
3:00 - they did not win the title yet, there's still one remaining match to be played and they couod lose it all.
@bobjuh Жыл бұрын
Telstar runner up in the Europa League, wow
@adama-k2710 Жыл бұрын
7:01 why are Charlton in the national league north and not south?
@crigiu2118 Жыл бұрын
B Teams can’t get promoted to the top division in Spain… the top 3 were B teams. Therefore Elche in 4th technically won the title and got automatic promotion 😭 also espanyol B team got relegated from 2nd
@mattlord97 Жыл бұрын
Mexico winning the world cup in 2022 is interesting
@Randomthom Жыл бұрын
Seeing Real Madrid only 1 division above their b team, it begs the question, if the b team were to get promoted and the A team get relegated, what then happens?
@shaneomac5038 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in 2027 on fm22 mobile and Chelsea have been relegated! Also Brighton are very good too 👍🏻
@alexjopling1974 2 жыл бұрын
In my first season Tottenham got relegated West Ham won it and I finished 12th as Norwich
@HaiNguyen-ol6ey Жыл бұрын
bro its football post-apocalypse 💀💀💀
@WilliamsGamingYouTubeChannel 2 жыл бұрын
I'd assume that what happened to Brentford is because they have got rid of their Academy in real life so I dont know if thats replicated in a way on FM
@deanmcdougall5331 2 жыл бұрын
Surprised no one’s mentioned their 8 league titles.
@i_am_target0017 2 жыл бұрын
Solihull moors spent money during a transfer embargo? I think a few of the premier league teams were non league in the present day.
@damianotommassi3378 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm :/ makes me think that the youth academy quality aspect is not well made in game.. for example, my team Roma, has one of the best (if not the best) youth academies in Italy.. and if they relied on their local boys alone, no way in hell they'd be relegated from the Serie B xd but interesting experiment all around :)
@aaronpimm9767 2 жыл бұрын
How did you hover over Europa league and not even realise Colchester United won it
@cal-efc8062 Жыл бұрын
How did Charlton end up in National League North?….What happened to Lazio?
@ajday19891989 Жыл бұрын
Overall how long did this take you to simulate 50 years?
@rowanmacdonald4776 2 жыл бұрын
would be cool if every team in europe was under transfer embargo so we could see the teams with the best youth in smaller countries (like kovenhaven) doing well in europe
@TheHungryTrollRawr 2 жыл бұрын
I think Ajax would rule, would be amazing to see this
@murilomuniz9962 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheHungryTrollRawr Benfica, Monaco, Ajax, Dortmund, Sporting, Dynamo Zagreb, Salzburg, Feyernoord, Anderlecht and Young Boys would be some other guesses
@TheHungryTrollRawr 2 жыл бұрын
@@murilomuniz9962 yeah some great teams there for this, imagine football with no sugar daddys
@murilomuniz9962 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheHungryTrollRawr being a Benfica supporter, I would love to live in such a world
@TheHungryTrollRawr 2 жыл бұрын
@@murilomuniz9962 When I was a kid ppl feared Benfica! Would love them to keep their star players and become a giant again!
@Ritchie-wz7qe 2 жыл бұрын
Feels like Scotland was deleted from this save it was that bad. What a poor showing.
@gjw7 Жыл бұрын
in the second division Espanyol b have gotten relegated even thought the were second
@MrJerryCola Жыл бұрын
Charlton (a south London club) in the national league north but Tottenham (a north London club) are in the national league south? 🤔
@musicforworkout2989 2 жыл бұрын
Can u let us download link for that save?
@bushidobrown6742 2 жыл бұрын
Real Madrid B was doing better than the First Team Real Madrid in Liga 2, winning it twice the last two seasons shown. They only got relegated because the First team got relegated and you cant have two of them in the same league
@SpiklasComFome 2 жыл бұрын
Anyway we could have a link for this experiment??
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