500 TOA Teaching Stream (Monkey Room Update) OSRS

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500 TOA Teaching Stream (Monkey Room Update) OSRS

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Today Jagex released new Monkey room and I've been waiting to release a new ToA 500 teaching stream/guide until then. The changes are HUGE, night and day upgrade to TOA, wish they would have done this much sooner. This makes one of the hardest rooms, and first rooms not a reset central. The real star though, is MIXED HIDE. Mixed hide is the new Torva chest hybrid that allows you to bring SO MANY extra sanfew. This makes it so people who cringe at pray flicking can get a more lax 500 first kit. The accuracy bonus that Mixed Hide makes it better than Bandos chest while using Fang, and for basically no requirements or grinds long ironmen grinds. This should be nerfed, but while its not, I HIGHLY suggest using it on getting your first kits done. Defenses in ToA matter the least compared to other raids, so even though its lower than say Torva, it's still overall better because you can also Range in it with Tbow.
No, you wouldn't use this sub 300 invos and no, you wouldn't use this with bowfa.
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@GnomonkeyRS 2 ай бұрын

It is NOT worth using mixed hide as your ranged gear with bowfa, but it IS always more dps than bandos. You could always bring both hide and crystal, bandos is probably better if tanking baba.

@creatineaddict 2 ай бұрын

Wearing just the mixed hide top w/ bandos tassets is higher dps than both mixed hide top and bottom btw (also higher dps than bcp + mixed hide legs). This is good to know for those who are still doing ranged swaps for crystal w/ bowfa.

@BrandonsLongRun 2 ай бұрын

Tried this out yesterday, the mixed hide enjoyers are having a field day. Thanks for the tech m8

@Mosestylez 2 ай бұрын

@@creatineaddictWhat if we use Dragon Crossbow, would mixed hide top + Bandos tasset still be beneficial? Can't afford the other ranged weapon, too expensive 😅

@creatineaddict 2 ай бұрын

@@Mosestylez I would say so, especially since it frees up inventory spaces (at least one if bringing a leg switch). The stats of mixed hide for ranged is close to black d'hide, so yeah I think it would be fine!

@Mosestylez 2 ай бұрын

@@creatineaddict Even if we play with Invo 200?? 500 is waaay to hard for me now😅

@tustinbear5831 2 ай бұрын

thak u gnomonk cuz of this i was able to get my first 150 clear. mixed hide is truely op

@Zezima69 2 ай бұрын

150? Bruh my cousin with Down syndrome can clear that

@skoodlemoose 2 ай бұрын

quit asking for mixed hide nerf, you are massively over hyping it. its +7 stab bonus man it's perfect for it's level requirements This would be like askign for a dragon defender nerf because it only requires 60 attack to wield but gives 24 slash accuracy. bandos may be a little weak for how hard it is to get but not really since it's got insane defense stats. you're bein a goofball on this one

@gyundie28 2 ай бұрын

It doesnt need a nerf anyways. It has an extremely niche use at high invo toa that barely outperforms bandos, only when wielding a fang without crystal/bofa, and is because of accuracy not strength. The vast majority of setups in the game bandos is better.

@Hobbes_OSRS 2 ай бұрын

Who up mixing they hide

@Toastyy911 2 ай бұрын

what?

@galtiscor 2 ай бұрын

at the tonb of asthmacut. straight up "mixeing it". and by "it", haha, well. lets justr say, my hied

@jbarela237 2 ай бұрын

@@Toastyy911 who up wonking they willy rn

@Jjjbbb5678 2 ай бұрын

Me ✋🏻

@aircatcher6891 2 ай бұрын

I'd never tell

@jonathanlundy3853 2 ай бұрын

Just watched this whole stream vod and then I see this shorter version 5 seconds old lmao

@Hedron_Archmage 2 ай бұрын

Sorry, I was sick today so I didn't get it out as fast as usual :c Watch this one too just because

@asdfhsfdtehaed 2 ай бұрын

@@Hedron_Archmage Get well soon

@Me_Sean 2 ай бұрын

26:10 For more info on the "you don't need to flick" bit, brain off fully camping protection prayer+augury for 40 minutes would use ~14 sanfew pots with 8 prayer bonus. You are not Praying for 40 minutes straight lmao. Hell, even If you're struggling that bad, just lazy flick a damage prayer and hard camp overheads. Doing that you'd only use ~6 sanfews in 40 minutes. (numbers taken from osrs wiki pray drain calc)

@FirstOnIpodNano 2 ай бұрын

You are right, but you also have to take prayer drain from damage into account. I Lazy flick my offensive prayers and i always have enough restore on my 500s

@nofluffagain Ай бұрын

Prayer drain invo

@jakkuonyt5268 2 ай бұрын

Love the stardew music in the background

@colefunk8639 2 ай бұрын

Always learn so much watching you play, even with hundreds of raids I still pick something up. Thanks Mr Monke

@MrChilled123 2 ай бұрын

Your editor needs a raise

@stanime3065 2 ай бұрын

Im no where near doing 500s myself but always appreciate a good guide

@WarmupsLIVE 2 ай бұрын

who up tumekening they shadow

@timothybradford4 2 ай бұрын

1+1 mix hide pog U

@DannyNobody 2 ай бұрын

You should always pre-pot regular ranging pot for boulders if you're not bringing max range switches.

@wizardman79 2 ай бұрын

you propably hear this alot, but your guides are propably the best, You seem to explain everything needed, (level 3 zebak = must go now)

@doonkhair 2 ай бұрын

Cult of lamb soundtrack in background goes so hard

@XxSupaBAMxX 2 ай бұрын

interesting, although it seems to depend on some max hit breakpoints. With my ironman gear (barrows gloves, dboots, no eternals since no shadow) bandos is just better and I have to bring crystal anyways for bofa. Worth to throw in the dps calc though. On fang vorkath it also loses since bandos gives 2 max hits due to salve scaling.

@colonian83 2 ай бұрын

yeah, looks like a rip if you use bowfa. with his particular setup with eternals and torva helm it's great though.

@kiplup3803 2 ай бұрын

All varla armours: mixed hide, sunfire, perilous armours, ranged armour from group boss. random strange stats

@9186737467 2 ай бұрын

Well a lot of them are suppose to be hybrid gear so it makes sense.

@colonian83 2 ай бұрын

eclipse gear is surprisingly good for colosseum as well, +4 str bonus with top and bottom and slightly more range bonus than blessed d'hide. i don't think sunfire is weird, more weird that hardest content in the game is giving out a slight upgrade to proselyte

@KILLKIDspeedrun 2 ай бұрын

Kinda fun though

@A.casinhas 2 ай бұрын

i learned raids all cuz of you.. and im not a regular player, only when i can cuz of work and life but damn im glad i know hardests minigames cuz of you. TOA, COX, TOB. ur the man !

@Abysia 11 күн бұрын

I like how you made a cut just so we didn't see you getting hit by the boulder

@milklesstea6091 2 күн бұрын

Look at his hp

@GhostOfMathias 2 ай бұрын

Nice vid! I imagined Eric from that 70s show doing toa 😂

@godjah9702 2 ай бұрын

No se tanto inglés pero aprendo tanto con tus videos

@ISesseriI 2 ай бұрын

The space saving with mixed hide is crazy, that many restores looks super comfy in comparison to 5 for most of the raid

@RobatVx3 2 ай бұрын

Is this setup only good for 500 or is it best at any invo? Also, do you still camp eternals without shadow?

@GnomonkeyRS 2 ай бұрын

300+ and if you aren't using bofa.

@seektaker 2 ай бұрын

Cult of the Lamb music going hard.

@JFat5158 2 ай бұрын

Ty for your guide, I have been able to complete a solo 150

@MegaChickenfish 2 ай бұрын

2:20 I didn't think of it that way. I kept camping the DFS with the fang for more defence because I figured anywhere that double stab bonus is already giving you damned near 100% accuracy, it's the _stab bonus_ that stops mattering hardly at all and so you just want high str and defence over something like a defender. Should probably test on a dps calculator instead of just winging it, do you have any dedicated guides on just how to read those dps calcs? They get a bit confusing to me.

@GnomonkeyRS 2 ай бұрын

Not everything is intuitive, gearscape is user friendly and what I use now. I'm planning a guide of this sort relatively soon

@BossModeGod 2 ай бұрын

Hahahah told you fkrs. -bruh

@shamsup720 2 ай бұрын

"500 is completely free now" he says with full ancestral and shadow

@jorgedelarosa1533 2 ай бұрын

And tbow lol

@GnomonkeyRS 2 ай бұрын

I do have guides without shadow lol...

@shamsup720 2 ай бұрын

@@GnomonkeyRS I know just let me have this

@kylejones1532 2 ай бұрын

The armour actually looks really cool aswell haha

@Hzyp 2 ай бұрын

Damn this is genius

@ChaotixLee 2 ай бұрын

that was to be cult of the lamb soundtrack its ingrained in my brain

@lewis3783 2 ай бұрын

As an iron missing Masori body and torva so nice comboing bcp and dhide body into 1 slot

@Lewis4DC 2 ай бұрын

For normal team raids as a beginner im guessing you wouldnt recommend these? Bandos + god hides instead if on a budget?

@GnomonkeyRS 2 ай бұрын

Even in teams it's better than Bandos

@Lewis4DC 2 ай бұрын

@@GnomonkeyRS Sweet, posted a pic in your ToA questions disc server, can you help me out :)

@iDeathSparky 2 ай бұрын

What's your thoughts on mixed hide at Nex over fortified masori?

@GnomonkeyRS 2 ай бұрын

Over Karils, not Masori.

@tuugestein96 2 ай бұрын

22:45 it keeps scaling. Below 40% you get 12 hits and i think below 20% gives you 14, although that i've never been able to test

@SPACECOWBOY_Hej 2 ай бұрын

Usually don't like the stream videos but this one is great. Really helpful video.

@derekwnb 2 ай бұрын

You should be bringing masori top tbh. You'll still 1 shot the boulder without the the extra 1 range lvl from pre potting(if using max gear all else). If you just swap the top to masori you'll be hitting a 27

@WPXTacoMan477 2 ай бұрын

Or put blowpipe on accurate for a max hit?

@derekwnb 2 ай бұрын

@@WPXTacoMan477 That’d work too. I personally would forget and punch my wall 😂

@leojones6623 2 ай бұрын

W background music

@twitchthepocket 2 ай бұрын

cult of the lamb music :)

@cassarin0 2 ай бұрын

gnomemonkey is one of a kind fr

@DelightfulArcticFox-wd1hg 2 ай бұрын

Helpful tips 😋🤟

@Nitorior 2 ай бұрын

Interesting video!

@wetsoup5 2 ай бұрын

love u

@Ckowalczyk 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for this guide, may I please ask to make a guide on the zebak jugs, I been doing 400s and I do zebak first cause its so crazy hard with lv3 zebak & upset stomach. Saturday I died 12x in a row b2b because it would give me the most insane jug spawns, most of the time it's common rule to stand left for first rotation & middle for 2nd jug spawns. The first jug throw I either haft to run completely right side of the room and push the jug left, or to the very back of the room and push it towards zebak. I think zebak jugs is harder than anything in the raid for me, maybe I'm missing something Also I have 98. 300-400s completed

@hiral-gp5ob 2 ай бұрын

Nice vid. Use mixed hide at nex too over masori/bands?

@GnomonkeyRS 2 ай бұрын

Over Karils camping

@brandtrice9403 2 ай бұрын

Can you link your tile markers for akkha? Amazing guide, has helped me start pushing higher invos than ever

@jonkay2888 2 ай бұрын

Seriously just 2 days ago I pulled up gear scape for DPS calcs and it put Mixed Hide as my armour (using fang in this case). I was like WTF is this, searched it and was like okay haha nice joke, I think the gear is worth like 20k or something. Just to then hear you say this now meta and crazy broken with fang in mind. I'm enjoying gear scape but it's a little hard to use sometimes.

@SadOverwhelms 2 ай бұрын

All the parts where you say its easy makes me want to rip my eyes out

@Enigmaballs_ 2 ай бұрын

I would like to see you do a woox style challenge, just how much can you limit your gear, and still complete a 500 toa? Something ridiculous, bone dagger, dorg cbow, and fire strike.

@GnomonkeyRS 2 ай бұрын

I did naked man mode and lots of other budget runs/punch only etc. I don't particularly find them enjoyable.

@Kaskas. 2 ай бұрын

Great video as always!! By the way why you keep shadow on long range? (26:15)

@hareobrien 2 ай бұрын

No reason not to. It doesn't make it worse and gives extra range

@Skitles125 2 ай бұрын

@@hareobrien Accurate gives +3 magic instead of +1 on long range

@EnlightenedOne90 2 ай бұрын

@@Skitles125And that equates to roughly 0.5% DPS increase over long range, effectively none. Easier to just camp long range and retain an impactful benefit.

@tvortbox 2 ай бұрын

500s are closer to 300s than you think. If you can get down a few main things, it's only a matter of time. Bf, red x and last row wardens

@ryanbeatbox8274 2 ай бұрын

@@tvortbox also possible without red x. drop your range switch for just an atlatl and bring like 17 sanfews into the raid. i never bothered to learn red x in my 600 raids so i thought for my first 500 i should just cheese it too. i did it first try. 4 sanfews left over.

@MCo1776 24 күн бұрын

hey @gnomonkey - Can you advise on the music? It's really Chall :D

@J0sh351 2 ай бұрын

thats cool theres a niche slot for stab armour

@joonasmakela7435 2 ай бұрын

Is mixed armor worth to take over bandos if you are using crystal + bofa?

@creatineaddict 2 ай бұрын

I just use the top and wear tassets. Tested it recently. Definitely still need the crystal top and legs.

@OsrsCop 2 ай бұрын

MIXED HIDE MONDAY BABBBY

@noname1247 2 ай бұрын

"We like to teach the easy methods first." God, I wish you were my math teachers.

@OBRIZZLE 2 ай бұрын

What a g

@yukimura62 2 ай бұрын

Uhhhhhhh how are u going to 3 down p2 at 540?

@FLASHLIGHT_REVIEWS 2 ай бұрын

Would love to get info on the akha tile markers where I can get them looks so much easier with them

@GnomonkeyRS 2 ай бұрын

!butterfly in twitch chat

@iamSmiley1 2 ай бұрын

So mixed hide is only worth if it, if you have tbow and shadow?

@GnomonkeyRS 2 ай бұрын

Tbow and Fang yes. It's budget Torva and better than Bandos

@iamSmiley1 2 ай бұрын

@@GnomonkeyRS thanks boss

@Kyle-vj9dq 2 ай бұрын

Bro I’ve been using this for ages😂

@MasonBoox Ай бұрын

Did you use the Keris at all?

@dionmcneice24 2 ай бұрын

For those of us with bandos/fang and bowfa/crystal, is it still worth using mixed hide

@gyundie28 2 ай бұрын

No. Its only really useful because it takes away switches and adds more resources. You need crystal with bofa, so you should not use it without tbow, unless bandos doesnt give a max hit for your setup (even then the pray bonus on bandos and defence is worth it imo.)

@Dangernoodlle 2 ай бұрын

I'm planning in getting bandos still as it looks much cooler

@99str3ngthx2 2 ай бұрын

Diablo 2 Act 5 soundtrack?? POG

@WellDoneOnTheInternetEverybody 2 ай бұрын

Would you fang in this at nex or is the magic defense more important? or how viable would torva legs with mixed top be there?

@GnomonkeyRS 2 ай бұрын

Mp2 basically requires torva, it's solid if you don't have masori yet though

@michaelvarney3882 2 ай бұрын

Love the vids js I've been sitting back using mixed hide since I found out you could craft it was just sleeping on it lol 2025 mixed hides ge price be 30mill lol 😆 😂

@2DollarGargoyle 2 ай бұрын

Mix hide is only worth cause of fang? Pre fang should be strength gear still? Especially if youre using bowfa and need the crystal?

@GnomonkeyRS 2 ай бұрын

Yeah if you have BofA don't use this.

@APXFarm 16 сағат бұрын

Can somone tell me why he does not have hit splats?

@SunnyDOTT Ай бұрын

6:08 Ah yes but of course. Just do this.

@Kaliksto 2 ай бұрын

Hey Gnomonkey, would fortified masori + zaryte crossbow be better than bowfa full crystal for toa? I have been trying to use gearscape to answer this but it always says that crystal has lower ttk but the zcb has more dps. So im not sure what to think.

@GnomonkeyRS 2 ай бұрын

Ttk is what you want. It's because Ruby bolts have the potential to be more DPS.

@xxSn1pexx 2 ай бұрын

@gnomonkeyRS one question, how do you make your boost info smaller? ive tried multiple times, thanks in advance

@GnomonkeyRS 2 ай бұрын

Compact mode in base runelite settings

@Twittchyy 2 ай бұрын

reg range pot pre-pot for baba is the move

@zMustyz 2 ай бұрын

sanguine ornament mixed hide when jagex???

@CrazyLeo57 2 ай бұрын

Is Magus ring not worth bringing as a switch or is the magic damage % capped with full mage and augury making it redundant?

@GnomonkeyRS 2 ай бұрын

Not worth because Lightbearer is better

@lampisfun1139 2 ай бұрын

Gnomemonkey before combat rebalance: NOOO i dont wanna do 9 way switches!! Gnomemonkey after update: Okay so mixed hide saves us 4 inventory slots

@tjo2754 2 ай бұрын

I'm doing 515 money raids with the same gear , just no twisted bow. What would be better to speed up the raid, a magus ring or primordial boots? I'm guessing magus ring?

@GnomonkeyRS 2 ай бұрын

No, prims. You don't bring magus in ToA. Lb is broken as hell

@sleepyzeph 2 ай бұрын

ive been using mixed hide since it came out because i don't have bandos/torva and i refuse to play barb assault for a fighter torso. +2 strength is good enough for me

@indigovdw3781 2 ай бұрын

I've got fang, shadow and bowfa. should i ignore the mixed hide? or use mixed hide with acb?

@GnomonkeyRS 2 ай бұрын

Likely ignore mixed

@PauIdenino 2 ай бұрын

Only gnomonkey would give a stone boss leather drop

@Dijits 2 ай бұрын

Wait so is mixed hide better than full torva for toa now??

@GnomonkeyRS 2 ай бұрын

Torva is still better but for a first kit, it's better to save the slots and use mixed hide as hybrid melee/range and save 2 slots for restores.

@jtrill-cn1it 2 ай бұрын

I’m an Ironman with Bowfa + crystal. Spiked menacles + torso obby legs. I do have fang though. Would mixed d huge armour be worth it for my melee switch ?

@leoread3060 2 ай бұрын

Yes

@ajhakraHD 2 ай бұрын

Would the mixed hide still be good for Keris Partisan, or exclusively for Fang?

@GnomonkeyRS 2 ай бұрын

Mainly fang because fang max hits don't matter as much as accuracy double rolled

@Tartar920 2 ай бұрын

Using the same calc as monke, mixed hide with keris would be better than keris with bandos atleast with baba.

@scottbaker3876 2 ай бұрын

What's your thoughts on using this at demonic gorilla? Just bp and arclight swap

@Forged4War206 2 ай бұрын

It has negative slash bonus my dude.

@ChannyIce 2 ай бұрын

I tbow warden cause my mage gear with shadow isn’t the best. Should I still bring arma or just stay in mixed hide?

@GnomonkeyRS 2 ай бұрын

You should sell arma and buy Masori. Arma is garbage regardless and a waste of money. On gearscape.net you can plug in both your range/mage set and see the time to kill and dps and determine which one is better. You can also use the tool and see with how much money you have, the best upgrades would be best for you

@brucewaterman3095 2 ай бұрын

while butterflying how are you clicking 'walk here' through the minion??

@GnomonkeyRS 2 ай бұрын

Menu entry swaps

@mobilegend.. 2 ай бұрын

Is the wiki dps calc just wrong?

@currentcommerce4774 2 ай бұрын

just posting to remind ppl that mixed hides is garbage at 300 scale, this is pretty strictly solo500 toacel gear loadout

@GnomonkeyRS 2 ай бұрын

It's typically just best with fang in general, yes it's better than bandos even at 300

@JeremyNasr 2 ай бұрын

Is there a tile pack for your akkah room?

@ardechey 2 ай бұрын

Is mixed hide better for nex too? should I still take masori or just take this if i have masori/bandos no torva yet

@GnomonkeyRS 2 ай бұрын

Just posted a guide on this! Check it out

@ardechey 2 ай бұрын

@@GnomonkeyRS Awesome! nice timing ahha

@th3ch053n1 2 ай бұрын

Bone dagger makes bandos way better right? 🤔

@gabeschoppet5059 Ай бұрын

Is it trolling to shadow Zebek and just bring a 4 way range switch with assembler anguish barrows gloves blowpipe for warden?

@GnomonkeyRS Ай бұрын

Yes

@Taksik 2 ай бұрын

if u dont have tbow is it still worth rocking mixed hide with say zcb or bring crystal/bowfa?

@Boondoggle_Saint 2 ай бұрын

I believe I heard him say no to this in another stream.

@GnomonkeyRS 2 ай бұрын

Nah not good with BofA.

@andrewmci89 2 ай бұрын

Would you still take mixed over bandos for melee only, if you're ranging in crystal + bowfa?

@GnomonkeyRS 2 ай бұрын

Nah because you aren't saving any slots by using bofa

@andrewmci89 2 ай бұрын

@@GnomonkeyRS thanks, I kinda figured that'd be the case. Would you not still get a bit more DPS with fang either way though?

@GnomonkeyRS 2 ай бұрын

Technically yes, you can if you want. Moreso the point is that it's hybrid melee/range armor and saves you slots for more supplies which is most people's real difficulty in 500s

@andrewmci89 2 ай бұрын

@@GnomonkeyRS yeah makes total sense, thanks man!