500cc Two Stroke Project Bike Shooout -Motocross Action Magazine

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500cc Two Stroke Project Bike Shooout -Motocross Action Magazine

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We are not sure why 500cc two-strokes are making a comeback. Maybe it is because Americans tend to want what they can’t have. There is not one manufacturer on planet Earth that produces a 500cc two-stroke engine that is meant to be shoehorned into a dirt bike chassis. And there is good reason. If you haven’t ridden a 500cc smoker before, don’t start now-unless you need a quick shot of adrenaline to jump-start your heart. But, we do know two groups of guys who are 500cc two-stroke crazy. Why do they like these big displacement engines so much? Maybe it is because they are stuck in the 1990s. Or, maybe it’s because they have a few screws loose. Whatever the case, MXA is glad they have such a passion for these archaic engines that they insisted on building MXA two exotic 500cc smokers, both in 2016 KTM 250SXF chassis’. The kicker? One is powered by a Honda CR500 engine and the other by a KX500 engine. Adam Millar, who owns Millar Racing Engineering (MRE) in Canada, is a diehard CR500 guy-and you can guess which bike he built. The second group of 500 loonies are KX500 aficionados who call themselves KX Guru Racing. You’d think that they would share a common bond, but instead they have a love/hate relationship. They both think they know which antiquated engine is better than the other, and who can build the best version of a modern 500cc motocross bike. Which is where MXA came into the picture; they asked the MXA wrecking crew to settle the argument. It was a classic 500cc build-off.
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@Maicowerk 4 жыл бұрын

"There is not manufacturer that makes a 500 2 stroke engine that's meant to be shoe horned into a dirtbike chasis" Yes there is, you can still buy a new Maico 500.

@beverywhereyouare 4 жыл бұрын

Opferman Motors Dirtbiking which one ?

@Maicowerk 4 жыл бұрын

@@beverywhereyouare Maico

@ej2civicb736 4 жыл бұрын

@@tomlynch9706 yea 5 grand just for the conversion kit still have to buy a ktm 250 or 300 2 smoker with a good engine 2007-2016 I believe I'd rather just buy a 98 cr 500 for 2500-4000 and put new 450 clamps and forks on it that's just me tho not a fan of wp air forks on ktms

@Dylans503 4 жыл бұрын

Hey look it's Toby, the Maico legend of tillamook state forest

@TNTMOTO 4 жыл бұрын

Yes but $15k? ouch. Thats $21.5 k in Canada. Sure its a 500 but thats a little too much money for the normal guy.

@Mxrider92i 4 жыл бұрын

Imagine being on an mx track with a bike that does 0-60mph faster than a Ferrari, hitting an inexpected bump and going whiskey throttle into the face of the next jump :D hehehehe

@rodrigoalmendro3118 4 жыл бұрын

Honestly I'm just here for the soundtrack

@victortamini847 4 жыл бұрын

8:20 to 8:30 beautiful riding, filming and editing! Thanks MXA

@lukesparkman8675 4 жыл бұрын

11:37 - 11:47 what we really all came here for 🎶

@kevinclark9176 4 жыл бұрын

Sounds like the Honda is the winner. Smoother engine that puts the power down. Plus MRE can build it with electric start if you want.

@thetwowheellifeplus4065 4 жыл бұрын

I am rebuilding my 1995 CR500 for this season of hare scrambles. Shaved the head .0030 for more compression and more snap at high altitude. No compression release. Just be a man and kick it. I have stuck the kick starter through a pair of boots though. It really pisses people off getting passed on a new $10,000 450 when your on a 25 year old paint shaker. Just hold on and twist the throttle!!

@bjornchristiansson2827 4 жыл бұрын

Oh nice job 👌 I race the KX 500 from 1985-1992 and I race the CR 500 1992-1999. I love both! For my late KX we use the 250 frame and suspension was Öhlins front and rear. I love the raw power the KX motor pumps out fit my riding so well! And 70+BHP is number we also had. The Honda we was need to run high compression piston to gain more mid and bottom end. So my pick as they made of same chassis would be the KX for sure 👌 Love both bike this is real manners for me and my racing have been 2 stroke miss them to death! Nice building from both teams 🙏😊 Best regards from Sweden Scandinavia/ Bjorn

@greensocks4507 4 жыл бұрын

Nice Video. Have a Zero hour CR500 in the shed. 2001. Untouched, original, all the books. The 500's get along Ok, 300 hours on the KX500 under my belt. They get along Ok.

@basshunter8517 4 жыл бұрын

For me this means win-win situation... The arena is ready for corn seeding.. Long live 2 strokes!! Doesn't matter cc's...

@greensocks4507 4 жыл бұрын

Great vid, I'm a KX500 vet from the late '90's don't ride 'em much anymore . The CR500 is a great bike too. Had a YZ490 that was fun but not a great bike . Feel sorry for the guys that have never had any time on a 500. Don't know what they're missing when the wheel comes up in top gear on a long straight.

@stevenlefebvre2991 3 жыл бұрын

Green socks Yes it is such a rush. I am glad I grew up in this time. I was addicted to the 500s.

@jflynn1996 4 жыл бұрын

Impossible to choose a winner? How about all the riders do a hot lap on each one?

@McNamEvan 4 жыл бұрын

different riders do better on different bikes, you listen to what he said? the KTX suited the fastest riders. KTR suited the rest.

@MxRider721 4 жыл бұрын

@@McNamEvan Still though it would be nice to see the hot lap times

@McNamEvan 4 жыл бұрын

@@MxRider721 Agreed. I'd like to see each riders best 3 lap average and have a 450f and a 250sx for comparison.

@beverywhereyouare 4 жыл бұрын

Agreed ! That “we can’t pick it” answer is the all time WORST answer EVER !

@kevinclark9176 4 жыл бұрын

mcnameva reviewers are often very wrong when they say that. The bike that “feels” fast isn’t always the fastest. That’s why they should get a bunch of riders out there to do hot laps. Get a couple riders of 3 different skill levels and see how they compare.

@Corteum 4 жыл бұрын

Get some top pro's on them and test them against 450's. That'll be fun.

@vaughanhodgson 2 жыл бұрын

450s will still win the fact they produce to much low end torque is a huge advantage

@Corteum 2 жыл бұрын

@@vaughanhodgson 4-strokes produce a broader spectrm of torque, but they don't produce as much power overall. That's why even a stock 150 2-stroke has as much power as a stock 250 4-stroke and why a stock 500cc 2-stroke has 60rwhp and a stock 450 4-stroke has only about 50rwhp. Would be interesting to see some actual extensive empirical testing of this question of which one wins more often.

@vaughanhodgson 2 жыл бұрын

@@Corteum yip your bang on with that thats why you would think the 450 would win has power when u want it. Jeremy McGrath said in his 500 vid he would never line up his 500 against a bunch of 450s as he wouldn't be as quick

@Corteum 2 жыл бұрын

@@vaughanhodgson I feel like it's 50/50.. i give a slight advantage to the 4-strokes, just because i know the power is easier to control and use on a practical level. Takes a more concentration and energy to make a 2-stroke sing. I would still pay to see that empirical testing though. Would be fun. I can accept whatever the result is. Both 4 and 2 strokes are fun imo.

@Corteum 2 жыл бұрын

@@vaughanhodgson Would be interesting with a 500cc s-stroke on a modern frame. I think that would make a big difference. Lower center of gravity for instance. It's also lighter than a 450 4-stroke. More overall power. And you can do things to increase the torque range. Then do lap times, track battles, holeshots, testing on different tracks, too. That would be fun to see.

@vevohoeyo 4 жыл бұрын

I'm a 4stoke guy all day long but I used to ride 2 strokes and have to say this is awesome to see. Sounds like they should put the kx engine in the cr frame.

@daviddunbar7702 4 жыл бұрын

So when do we see how the BRC compares to these 2?

@500bigbore 4 жыл бұрын

Well, the 72hp was the number I told the guys at the shootout the day this was filmed, being the power from the BRC as the kit comes plus the Hygge pipe. Neither Mike (the KTX owner) not myself gave any Horsepower numbers for our builds.

@McNamEvan 4 жыл бұрын

@@500bigbore have you ridden all 3? How does the BRC 500 motor compare to these? Beautiful build BTW, congratulations.

@500bigbore 4 жыл бұрын

NoNoNoNii I know the BRC well, it was an idea I proposed when I was approached by them to help make a CR500 cylinder. With less parts to support the CR, the longer lineage of interchangeable KTM parts and multiple models meant that it would be an easier model to conform to different uses with 5 transmission and 4 or more different clutch options. I do have the BRC myself, with Hygge pipe, my own custom dual 3D mapped ignition, STIC metering block, and st the moment the VF4 Reed. All performance researched components to have the best performance. I have some videos of it on my channel, many there as private which I’ll review and maybe add to the public list. -Adam

@JohnHowerton137 4 жыл бұрын

Oh man, I was hoping the BRC would be in this too. Sick either way.

@Yt_xrider 4 жыл бұрын

I wish you guys could test those maico 500/620/685/700 or atk700 intimidator. im curious how those things run on mx tracks😁

@Corteum 4 жыл бұрын

Time attack shootout! 500 2-stroke vs 450 4-stroke.

@vaughanhodgson 2 жыл бұрын

The 450 around a track.is always gonna win

@Corteum 2 жыл бұрын

@@vaughanhodgson You're probably not wrong. But I'd love to see an thourough empirical test even so. It would be fun.

@nickwightman3735 4 жыл бұрын

The one substance harder than diamond is the forearms of those who test 500cc 2 stroke bikes

@jnuxca 4 жыл бұрын

I'd like to have a kickstarter on my 500, they even have decomp come on :')

@wtfftw24 4 жыл бұрын

It is a gay world nowadays..😯😂😂

@stevenlefebvre2991 3 жыл бұрын

Spah24 Ventiquattro Are used to have no problem starting my CR 500s. Just bring them up to compression and give them a good boot. I think everybody’s used to giving motorcycles a lazy kick nowadays. I miss my CR 500 so bad.

@sparky-281 4 жыл бұрын

Anyone know how much these builds cost? Very cool bikes but I don't think they would give you the scare that the old 500s would, crazy vibration and aggression was like riding a wild horse, these bikes look way smoother, still be good fun but the old 500s was a different breed of bike,

@kyleshady21 4 жыл бұрын

$20,000 or so

@youngman7655 4 жыл бұрын

Smoother faster one of a kind

@georgewarshington1230 4 жыл бұрын

i mean not that i would by any means say that kawi is unreliable, they're a fantastic dependable company. But there's a reason why the trail riders have been hoarding these Cr500's for years. Honda reliability and parts network, and for my region specifically- affordability. i grew up riding trails in a group of 10-15+ cr500's. They always got you home, and if you found yourself lost and stuck at the bottom of something nasty, you best believe there's suddenly nothing overkill about that engine. Trust me. I've been lost in hell before lol. This is why we all want them back. Plus i mean.... they fun doe.

@LEEROY_UK 4 жыл бұрын

BRC 500’s should be in this shootout!

@coreyhotch1704 4 жыл бұрын

You said it buddy,

@MrJames-dk3my 4 жыл бұрын

Love it great video long live 2 strokes !

@jonahruntz9818 4 жыл бұрын

Need to see a maico 500 and the brc 500 next time

@kevinmoore4887 4 жыл бұрын

No BUILT CR500AF? The former Service Honda builder never stopped building them.

@prettylagom3614 3 жыл бұрын

@CalypsoNotch408 visit the webbsite BUILT or PM Aj Waggoner on Facebook

@prettylagom3614 3 жыл бұрын

@CalypsoNotch408 no worries!! Have had alot of help from him while building my KX500AF (KX500-91, KX450F-16) and think everyone should know about what he´s doing for all us 500 two stroke fans!!

@MNTNMAN-SUCA 3 жыл бұрын

Now THAT was 2 gorgeous ladies, each with their own distinctive lifestyles. 1, the Honda powered, likes to party but you can trust her around your kids. 2, the Kawasaki powered, is the Party Hard Stripper that will rock your world and leave you for dead coughing out blood on the side of the ditch!😍 IN LOVE WITH BOTH THOSE BIKES, I mean ladies, Umm I mean ummm, yeah, nice video.😘😘 Sooo having the old bike fever kicking in!🤩🤩🤩

@jasonneal 4 жыл бұрын

With these awesome builds, there is no excuse why the big 4 couldn’t build these and sell them. Even AMA making a class for these bad ass beast.

@sach681 4 жыл бұрын

BRC engineering is making modern 500 cc 2 stroke motors

@garrett3234 4 жыл бұрын

sach681 there not a main dirt bike manufacturer and they use old chassis for there engines

@Foleyathome 4 жыл бұрын

Great soundtrack and great action shots of 2 beasts 😊😊😊

@billshuey7422 3 жыл бұрын

My CR500 would make my hands numb in a hour. My KX500AF seems worse. However, the KX is scary fast once the power valve opens! So I still prefer the KX, guess I have to because the CR was stolen.

@bmxdestroy 3 жыл бұрын

I've had both a kx500 and a cr500. Mostly stock I'd DEFINITELY pick the kx!!!

@sludge86 3 жыл бұрын

It’s be nice to see Tomac, Barcia, Webb, JS7, Baggett, etc do some hot laps on these babies :)

@matthewlewis9996 4 жыл бұрын

I've read some reviews on that electric start from that company and they weren't very good. Expensive as well.

@hermansanchez8512 4 жыл бұрын

My Kx500 is scary as hell! I also have a ktm 440 2stroke and it’s a handful . I’ve never had a opportunity to ride a cr500

@greensocks4507 4 жыл бұрын

Funny how an antiquated engine, as you call it, is still making more hp than anything currently available off the shop floor. Even before any mod's. I never mind kick starting my KX500, that's what you do to start an MX Open class Bike. Would keep the kick-starter over more weight and more complexity any day. Honda went pretty well in this test considering the lack of a power valve. They're a good motor, that's for sure. It'd be interesting what Yamaha might have done if they hadn't pulled the pin on the air-cooled YZ-490 and progressed to a water cooled-Gen 2 500.

@Erik-rp1hi 4 жыл бұрын

I bought new the 87' CR500 then bought a 93' new and road it til 2001. I do not remember vibration being an issue. A boot was a must to start but a few kicks and it lit. I used them all for single track and desert riding. Now I have two KTM 300 (xc and exc). Love two strokes but if I'm feeling off I will use my KTM 450 XCW, easier to ride but not as fun.

@VitaliyKhomich 4 жыл бұрын

How would you compare the 87 and the 93 CR500 because people say 87 had the strongest motor? How would you rate of the low end, made range and the top hand on both?

@Erik-rp1hi 4 жыл бұрын

@@VitaliyKhomich Both had to have fine throttle control or no hook up. Only perfect moisture content in the dirt could you dream of using it all. I do remember the 93 having a wider power band. No over revving, use mid range band and low mostly. Never have to worry about the right gear but you had to be strong. Sometimes long rides in gnarly single track cause survival mode. Much more so than present day bikes.

@Desert9999 3 жыл бұрын

Superb comparison, great video, 10/10!

@joenobody2580 4 жыл бұрын

What's ol boy Tomac upter ? Would love to see him test these bikes.

@clarkpitts5393 4 жыл бұрын

primitive wasps in heat.... love that sound.

@brandonpanozzo86 4 жыл бұрын

I fucking love both the kx50p and cr500 still im not a motocross guy though im a big trails guy but im make my own trails so lots of straights and i keep them enty wide for friends with quads and i love the occasional field rip destroying just about anything else

@svenodsvik569 4 жыл бұрын

I love this.

@johnthomas6614 4 жыл бұрын

Honda had NO VIBRATION THAT WINS 🏁. & I will have 2 say Honda had 2 build them a head / do there Mods 4 them. Well OKAY ‼ No Vibration & Exlant Job of putting Power 2 The Ground with 500cc & the man said it was Smooth. I want tht Honda KTM/R Wick On ✊ Guys

@travisswiger924 4 жыл бұрын

Best sound ever

@spooledx2 4 жыл бұрын

I still don’t understand when people say the 500’s were hard to start lol. I went from a KX 125 to a CR500 in 90 at the age of 14... never had an issue. There is a trick to starting anything, it was a 1 or 2 kick process.. easy as hell. Badass bikes though, would love to throw a leg over either one

@ryanmayer1087 4 жыл бұрын

Easy way to pick a winner, asl all the riders which bike they’d rather take home. Whichever bike riders would want to take home more, wins!

@coreyhotch1704 4 жыл бұрын

you guys should of built a BRC 500 also in this shootout,??????

@mworld Жыл бұрын

What about the BRC 500 kit ? A modern fuel injected 500cc 2 stroke engine.

@sludge86 3 жыл бұрын

Zabel still makes a 500cc 2-stroke right? That was fun :)

@rowieg2148 4 жыл бұрын

No lap times 😂 . They both fast to watch but I bet riding them would be rediculous. Long live the 2 stroke 🤜. I only buy 4 strokes for my kids to learn how to ride

@reddawn1487 4 жыл бұрын

Ahhhh I’m building a two stroke sleep machine that plays the soothing sounds of two strokes putting down laps and comes with air freshening vaporizer that poofs a non toxic plume of two stroke fragrance into the air every 10 seconds :

@corner_films7035 4 жыл бұрын

Wonder if it was a 87 kx 500 motor or the 88-04 If youve read the history of 500s you know why I asked😂

@imgumby6378 4 жыл бұрын

Makes you wonder if there’d even be a sport if today’s riders were the ones getting it started all those years ago. So spoiled. They’d rather hate riding a bike with electric start than kick over the easier smoother ride.

@suriyasakchatphithakkun5249 3 жыл бұрын

EXCELLENT!

@herbrachel9707 4 жыл бұрын

I'd like to see you guys do a Bultaco build. But how would you find parts?

@wtfftw24 4 жыл бұрын

Four strokes are shacking... two strokes is coming back...

@chuckberg8828 Жыл бұрын

How did they get the vibes out of it?

@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443 4 жыл бұрын

Saying that nobody makes a 500 2-strokes anymore is a lie. Maico never stopped making them, along with a 620 and 700cc versions.

@williamfabiano543 4 жыл бұрын

I want one!!!

@sam_s_ 4 жыл бұрын

The guy in red and blue looks like Mario.

@ajlariviere 4 жыл бұрын

WHERE IS THE BRC 500

@scottyboy8868 4 жыл бұрын

Man that kx is still a pinger! CR runs much cleaner

@michaeldixon6619 4 жыл бұрын

Please try and do a Suzuki 500 2 stroke

@TriptoCo 4 жыл бұрын

I'll take the KX500 motor. KIPS makes a world of difference...

@charleshays2071 4 жыл бұрын

Why 500cc Two Stroke?....HP/Weight.... I have owned: 1972 RT2 360 MX; 1975 YZ-360 B; 1977 YZ-400 D; and 1978 YZ-400 E...wish I had kept one of them....especially the YZ-360 B....of course, thumpers are fun too...they all have two-wheels!

@christopherdyer2046 4 жыл бұрын

You clearly haven’t heard of BRC they make modern style 500 two smokes designed to bolt right into late model Ktm chassis

@K-Rivs 4 жыл бұрын

Kawi all the way

@jasperlit1345 4 жыл бұрын

i dont understand how you can say the CR handles so much better when they are both on KTM 250SXF Chassis?? Does the electric starter extra weight have that much of an effect??

@corner_films7035 4 жыл бұрын

Brc makes a kit for 2007+ ktm 2 strokes

@DOWNEY770 4 жыл бұрын

Lol on the opening comentary

@spicymeatball07 4 жыл бұрын

Wow just wow 😮💪👏🤩🔥👍

@joenobody2580 4 жыл бұрын

Any of these bikes raced in a local open money class yet ? Wondering how they would compare to the 4strokes.

@petergriffin4629 4 жыл бұрын

Truth be told in Motocross it's about the rider and not the bike. Watch some old Motocross des nations, the 500 dudes often lost against the 125s

@patricksaylor1477 4 жыл бұрын

Maico makes a 700cc two stroke

@greensocks4507 4 жыл бұрын

250 plus hours on the KX500, maybe 150 on the YZ490 before that. You guys seem to know it all. I'll leave any comments aside.

@ontheedge33371 4 жыл бұрын

The perfect kick 😂yep !

@michaelselix8817 4 жыл бұрын

I had a 86 KX500, what a bitch at times but did i love that machine.

@Ottopaul484 4 жыл бұрын

Go to 8:05 and pump up the volume!!! 😉

@TurbodanNM 4 жыл бұрын

Those billet cases....

@Shifty_Malone 3 жыл бұрын

Why would you use a 250 frame, instead of a 450? They're not 125s...

@DUBYA-DUBYA 4 жыл бұрын

Ok, you told us the kawi horsepower number but not the Honda’s hp #. 72 peak for torque monster kawi 500! I’m guessing since the CR 500 HP was not mentioned is because it was probably significantly lower. My guess would be 62 hp. For the CR. Just a guess. I think they are around 50 hp stock depending on the year. I had a 1986 cr500 and it was an absolute monster, loved that bike. Thanks for the video, and with just the pure 2 stoke sound. Someone needs to put a KTM 500 2 stoke motor in an updated bike. I’m guessing with the drive sprocket and kicker being on opposite sides creates a bit of a problem! Would love to see all the big bore 2 stroke motors put into new chassis’s for a shootout!

@500bigbore 4 жыл бұрын

WadeWoods stock the Cr on the dyno we use makes 45hp and 45ftlbs. The MRE bike in this shootout is mine, this engine package normally makes 65hp and 65ft/lbs however I’ve done some further improvements here which I didn’t dyno test but certainly added to power, performance and delivery. The 72hp number is NOT the KX’s HP! I’d given that number to the guys after our shootout while we were talking about the BRC engine I’m involved with.

@droptuned83 4 жыл бұрын

@Yeah Nah 20hp? Not sure I follow your maths.

@jessebryant9233 4 жыл бұрын

So now, how about a 4 man race: 500's vs. 450 4-stroke counterparts?

@Barry_378 4 жыл бұрын

It says shooout on the thumbnail

@its_me_ruff2474 4 жыл бұрын

How bout Kroc test the KTR while Tomac test the KTX

@joelfrancis5391 4 жыл бұрын

Give that kx500 to Tomac

@MrSteele-c3t 4 жыл бұрын

So what was the weight of each bike and is it compatible with the modern 450 4-stroke?

@1320fastback 4 жыл бұрын

My 2005 CRF250R with a 1997 KX500 motor weighs 242 pounds on a veterinarian digital platform scale.

@mikemoe7033 4 жыл бұрын

@8:23 u can pause and just smile😁

@cumnmrmptaaa4234 4 жыл бұрын

Ok.... so how abt some lap times?

@TheHypnotstCollector 4 жыл бұрын

gosh, no Cagiva. not a truly complete comparison report.

@graysinclair6572 4 жыл бұрын

TheHypnotstCollector When I was in the paint and body business 29 years ago, a Sikkens paint rep who called on our shop always talked about the Cagiva he rode in the 80s. You would have thought he was an unpaid rep for the motorcycle manufacturer instead of the automotive paint he pushed! Thanks for bringing up the brand.

@TheHypnotstCollector 4 жыл бұрын

@@graysinclair6572 The Motocross Vault just did a Cagiva 125 video. watch?v=DcoQcTzonVk

@graysinclair6572 4 жыл бұрын

@@TheHypnotstCollector Thanks.🤙

@kenjgood 4 жыл бұрын

Classic, we want to ensure we get bikes in the future so we won’t declare a “winner”. It’s called lap times...

@billyboy2455 4 жыл бұрын

So the kx is for pro's and the cr is for your average guy

@marclarden 4 жыл бұрын

🤔Shooout??

@patricksaylor1477 4 жыл бұрын

Has anyone ever put a banshee engine in a dirt bike and race it 🤔

@theprofessorfate6184 4 жыл бұрын

KTM needs to redesign and issue their KTM550 again. Might as well make the open class OPEN again. Fuck four strokes.

@jesse9705 4 жыл бұрын

Why not do the kit for the Ktm to make them 500 not Honda on a Ktm frame

@jacrispycreem6031 4 жыл бұрын

Whats the hp?

@jesse9705 4 жыл бұрын

Why not the honda

@rudymedina4508 4 жыл бұрын

My 50cc smokes em all

@billykunitz6466 4 жыл бұрын

Must not have done much on the inside of that cr500 engine otherwise it would have made way more power honda are know to make the most power and have the most gnarly power band

@dexterhoenhause9216 4 жыл бұрын

How many hp does the cr have?

@500bigbore 4 жыл бұрын

Dexter Hoenhause the engine combination there has proven to deliver 65hp and 65ft/lbs in the past, this one has some further refinements but I didn’t run it on the Dyno. The HP number given for the KTX was a number I provided while talking about the BRC engine, No HP numbers were given for my bike or the KX Guru ride.

@travisfennell5668 4 жыл бұрын

@@500bigbore I have 2000 cr500 with a pwk 38mm air striker, msv manifold, msv water pump, fmf gnarly exhaust, procircuit 304 silencer not the shorty and twin air filter, what power would you say mine is making? It's still on the stock piston from 2000 believe it or not I just got the bike a few months ago and have completed redone it besides the engine since it is such a low hour bike.

@matthewlewis9996 4 жыл бұрын

Aren't a lot of today's KTM and Husky's made with steel frames?