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@calmeilles2 жыл бұрын
I had a micro turbine almost 40 years ago, sourced from the Centre for Alternative Technology in Wales. There was nothing like the modern control and monitoring equipment available for the small scale, all it had was a simple transistor and resistor circuit mounted on a massive heat-sink intended to dissipate power as heat if there was danger of overcharging. It charged a high capacity 12V lead acid tractor battery and that powered 12V incandescent lamps - which were actually 21W car indicator bulbs that happened to have dual contact bases almost exactly like the SBC (small bayonet connector) used in many lamp fittings. Also occasionally a 12V TV. Really crude by today's standards but in an entirely off-grid house it allowed small luxuries like being able to go to the toilet or up to bed without carrying a candle. 😀
@danielratner2 жыл бұрын
That's amazing thanks for sharing. Makes me grateful for how far we have come. Today I have a modern charge control with (more reliable) solar panels and agm batteries. Every product in my RV is designed for 12v usage except for my tv which runs on 19v. My lights take about 4 watts, 20 if I have them all on. The led tv only uses about 10 watts. I can't image something going wrong with the "controller", and having to physically solder new components on.
@radar5362 жыл бұрын
Very important your comment, in my oppinion, because I think we are already behind in what whe should have started to do decades ago...a city must be at least partially independente from the state in energy... peoplel like you should get together and try to more to join... The changes we have seeing in the last years show us that any "incidente"(even a minor one) can be a serious problem, the biggest the city is. I am from Brazil, but live in Europe half of my life. The times I came back, I tryed to bring some stuff like this and try to convince people...try a change of mind...seems impossible. We have "all" in Brazil. Except the will of the upper class, that make a huge effort to maintain the majority unneducated. Thanks for sharing.
@billbimson24082 жыл бұрын
I remember going to that Alternative Energy centre in Wales (Dolgellau if it's the one I went to). I found it really interesting what they were doing and that was about 30 years ago. It's a lot easier to source these things nowadays with T'internet and information resources such as this. Great idea of Andy's to make this sort of thing a hobby and not be hell bent on making (saving) money or even getting your money back. Even with the small quantities of energy you generate with these projects, you might be very grateful for it if power cuts kick in which I think is the most serious threat that we have had for about 50 years. Recent events in Ukraine make this much more likely. I believe solar PV cuts out if there is a power cut for safety reasons because you could be grid generating when someone was trying to repair the fault, but if you have a battery, you can still draw charge from that. If I was installing solar, I would definitely go with a battery even though it might double the cost.
@mikaellindqvist5599 Жыл бұрын
Were i live you wouldnt have to care about that at all as having a windturbine is a crime.
@zeroheroes4081 Жыл бұрын
@@mikaellindqvist5599 Where?
@ryansteinkamp51465 жыл бұрын
As a wind turbine testing engineer I would like to offer a couple comments: 1: Not sure if I would use the 4x4 or whatever wooden pole you were using as the base with 500 W of power that can produce a lot of bending force on that wood. It might be fine with the size you have, but if you look into the foundations required for other small wind turbines you might be under sized and over time it might break. 2: I would NEVER have a turbine that close to my house especially one with such little control no pitch no over speed (it is a stall controlled turbine I am guessing, but from china never really sure of their safety systems). It is very small so you might be ok from a safety stand point, but you will always have a lot of turbulence and lower wind speeds. 3: The power cable you are using for they turbine scares me. It is not a 3 phase cable, which means it looks like you were using a ground wire as one of the phases. I understand that the ground wire is probably the same thing electrically, but we have a color code fore a reason so that other people understand what is hot and what is not. 4: I would always ground the metal surface of the turbine. with no ground and the metal pole not extending to the ground if lightening strikes your whole fence may start on fire. typically turbines have huge grounding strips everywhere to connect to the tower which is then grounded by the re-bar in the foundation. 5: it looks like the output of your 24v inverter you have connected to your turbine is connected to you charge controller using maybe 16 gauge wire (1.291 mm not sure how you measure wire over there). If you have all 500w coming from your turbine converted to 24V that would be 20.833 A, which is much higher that what can safely be transmitted by 16 guage wire. Edit: Oh and 6: rather than increasing the number of blades you have try increasing the length slightly. I think (based on my calculations and experience) you will be dissapinted by the decrease in rated wind speed (producing full power at lower wind) by adding blades. For an example from commercial turbines: a 90m diameter turbine is typically around 1.5 MW (1500 kW) where as a 116m can be almost 3 MW. Just make sure you get blades that are stall controlled if there are no overspeed safety systems on the turbine.
@jacorin5 жыл бұрын
have you had anything to do with the wind generators used on sailing boats????
@yxcvmk5 жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@nickjeffrey80505 жыл бұрын
Your helpful information has gone unnoticed I see 👎
@albertonoris86015 жыл бұрын
Very helpful thanks a lot!
@ryansteinkamp51465 жыл бұрын
@@jacorin the issue with wind turbines on sailing boats ( or any moving object for that matter) is they create a considerable amount of force parallel to the direction of the wind. This makes capturing energy on anything not firmly anchored in place basically impossible.
@WSallai4 жыл бұрын
The best thing you can do to increase the efficiency of the turbine is to get it away from the house AND increase the pole height. Turbines need unobstructed, non-turbulent air flow. If the box says 4.5-meters, that is 4.5-meters above the house peak.
@MrSummitville3 жыл бұрын
And above all nearby trees ...
@TheSkuldChan2 жыл бұрын
And you got a 500W Lightning arrester as well ;)
@patfranks7852 жыл бұрын
Or buy a solar system. But, if this is UK, that won't work. 😁
@sunder739 Жыл бұрын
@@patfranks785 coastal residence could benefit using this mini wind turbine, as the winds might frequently passing by their area at a certain height, say like 15 meters above the surface
@williamjolka4351 Жыл бұрын
@@patfranks785for UK better buy hydraulical system .
@neilshep505 жыл бұрын
Only works when the planes from Stanstead are taking off in the "right" direction?
@alibro75125 жыл бұрын
A few years ago I built a 10 foot wind turbine from scratch using a Hugh Piggott design and mounted it 30 feet up. On a good day it gave 1.2kw peak. It was good fun and I learned a lot but the most important thing I learned was my area isn't windy enough for a wind turbine. Most inland areas are the same unless on a high hill.
@benmangan99222 жыл бұрын
hi, what were your wind speeds?
@alibro75122 жыл бұрын
@@benmangan9922 not sure about the exact speed but let's say pretty windy with strong gusts.
@kevintewey11572 жыл бұрын
The high plains in the u.s. in Nevada are very windy and very far inland but I think it's very sporadic And today it's annoying the hell out of me because it's no good to be outside
@fuba445 жыл бұрын
If you are gonna use an mppt controller, you should consider placing a few very big capacitors on the dc side of your rectifier. To stabilize the voltage.
@kevintewey11572 жыл бұрын
Farads? Obviously we want capacitors they're over 12 volts such as 24? 15volts?
@gorillageeks56452 жыл бұрын
So the capacitor will store the low voltage energy from the turbine till it reaches a voltage that will charge the batteries
@nekelly123 Жыл бұрын
In parallel with the battery?
@isovideo749710 ай бұрын
@@nekelly123 No, the voltage needs to be stabalized into the DC input of the MPPT controller, otherwise the MPPT algorithm will be confused by the 120Hz voltage changes (from 60Hz full-wave rectified). The battery voltages should be very stable on their own.
@nimrod24673 жыл бұрын
Had the same problem. Had mine at 18 feet high and wasn't doing much so i raised it to 50ft made a huge difference
@timvonr28025 жыл бұрын
How about putting a capacitor in between to power the meter and have some more constant loading. Specially if you wanna feed it to your house. A constant, smooth supply without peaks is always better, there some pre finished models to replace a car battery which I assume to be a good solution
@tubularap5 жыл бұрын
Great. Congrats. Inspires me to tackle the wind too.
@tyronejones14355 жыл бұрын
I was warned about just running my dump circuit to a grid tie. It's good until there is a power disruption from the utility so, there has to be some backup. I'll keep watching you for inspirational ways to get around that issue. Nice setup.
@babylonhobbiesandfpv48624 жыл бұрын
Why dont you setup the dump circuit to enable a electronic brake for the turbine when the voltage drops the solenoid disables the brake and allows the turbine to spin again?
@fishhuntadventure3 жыл бұрын
An electric water heater can be a dump with benefits (at least until it reaches temperature!) but a big resistance dump is probably best unless you can afford to take the risk of the blades or bearings failing)
@danyf31165 жыл бұрын
What or where do you get that software for your MPPT controller? I have the USB gizmo to connect mine but can't find the software.
@cbecks20515 жыл бұрын
As a turbine and structural engineer of 48 years! I can tell you do not listen to these wannabes below, they know nothing. That wood will support that turbine fine.
@andykirby5 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks! Well it hasn’t fallen down yet😁
@tomr69554 жыл бұрын
All the armchair experts. Don't listen to them. You're not showing us for their advice
@CM-ng4sf4 жыл бұрын
Chris got balls! He called them wannabes lol..
@ryansteinkamp51464 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your input. I really wasn't sure. I working load measurement (model validation), and dont design the towers. I jusybknow how many forces there are, and was not sure about the strength of wood. I still stand by what I said about grounding with the wood. Also not trying to be a troll, but was actually trying to provide valuable feedback.
@rogueskywalker76493 жыл бұрын
Hi can you please discuss maintenance issues of wind turbines as I'm considering buying a system as well as solar for back up
@JOHNDANIEL15 жыл бұрын
Good show Andy. As you all saw on the 6+ videos on my channel, Mines been up almost 18 months now, not one issue, and always as long as its installed right makes over its rating.
@johnpower8356 Жыл бұрын
Seen a couple of yours
@johnpower8356 Жыл бұрын
I bought a Chinese 800w it worked for a month or 2 then I noticed it spinning uncontrollably I changed out the controller but somethings not right, being a permanent magnet type could something be burned out in the generator itself? I have tried a few controllers, there is open voltage when generator is spinning its a 012-24v controller on a 24v. GENERATOR I also have 24v. controllers I've tried
@johnpower8356 Жыл бұрын
It was a year or two but believe it or not it was just after watching one of your videos and got the link off you I believe I ordered thru albi or Ali something like that I'm getting open circuit voltage from the 3 generator output wires but it doesn't top off battery and brake the generator anymore for some reason also it spins crazy fast in heavy wind seems like circuitry in generator to me because I have several controllers, it worked perfectly new. Oh the company in China was green something I think, thanks for answering
@johnpower8356 Жыл бұрын
800w 3blade green solutions maybe not sure
@JOHNDANIEL1 Жыл бұрын
@@johnpower8356 Use a standard rectifier 3 to 2 configuration 100 amp straight through to battery. If you not getting effect then it's time to check backwards up the drop cable to the Turbine. And possibly the slip ring assembly. If your turbine has been throwing its brakes a whole lot the whole time you've owned it you may have caused a high carbon buildup on your slip rings inside the turbine housing. Or you could have caused some type of corrosion on your connections below the turbine. That's the angle I would look.
@nigelbiscombe91995 жыл бұрын
Your asking a lot of 4 wood screws on the tower. Get it bolted.
@koningbolo47004 жыл бұрын
I agree, if the winds pick up you may find yourself doing a garden turbine-shrapnel-ectomy...
@tomr69554 жыл бұрын
Did you not hear him say it's temporary and he's gonna fix it up?
@c90adventures4 жыл бұрын
If the wind blows in a certain direction, it's actually only being held up by two of those screws (or bolts).
@deprimat6663 жыл бұрын
Imagine one day you look up at your body as your heads just been cut off and you're last thoughts were oh shit lmao
@vaughanellis78662 жыл бұрын
If you are living away from grid power it can along with solar be a help as part of your energy mix, there are a few camping bothies up here in the Lake District that have switched over to wind powered lighting to save on having to cart up the paraffin or propane gas that was previously used.
@sshapiro58433 жыл бұрын
Thank you, have you tried different elevations in your wind turbine.
@stevemccormack9948 Жыл бұрын
I always think a great item to prioritize for these systems is your fridge. Just bring a power lead from the battery storage out to the fridge. When I was in Spain, by just putting my fridge on a timer (so it only came on about 1 hr in 3), I was able to half my electric bill. Because a typical fridge is on 24/7 and runs at 90-130 Watts.
@Qrnl10 ай бұрын
? Are you talking about standard compressor fridge? Just lower thermostat setting. They should not work 24/7
@stevemccormack994810 ай бұрын
@@Qrnl yes that's another approach. Try it and see
@jacqueswittaker58543 жыл бұрын
For the size wire you used what is your voltage loss? Also please for an estimate of the distance traveled?
@broadsworddannyboy655 Жыл бұрын
More turbine content please Andy. Just bought a solar setup and storage batteries and now want to look into turbines for cloudy bad weather days. Cheers
@shune845 жыл бұрын
So ideally you want to harness the wind power so you have plenty of excess and somewhere to dump the excess you don't need, maybe an extra turbine if needed, automated so that it dumps power somewhere useful when your batteries are full.
@scottwhitley33925 жыл бұрын
Bro bring this to Scotland and it would spin all day every day 🤣
@Nayfun15 жыл бұрын
i have been thinking that since he mentioned it im in a windy spot
@kristiancdf5 жыл бұрын
I’m currently sat in my campervan in the middle of nowhere 1hr north of Inverness lambing. It’s howling here. This would save me spinning the generator up on the shed for power when the lambs are born. 👍🏻
@MrCarlRobinson5 жыл бұрын
Yes, wet, cold and windy is the best combination!
@TheDoctorPretzel5 жыл бұрын
@@kristiancdf I'm half an hour east of Inverness we've had nothing but blue skies and no wind this week 🤣
@hamsterminator5 жыл бұрын
I'm moving to east Lothian next month- I'm considering getting one myself :)
@pulesjet5 жыл бұрын
Those little meter are handy things. I need a few more here. I'm going to use a Plug N Play Grid tie for a Dump Load. Every bit off the bill helps. Here in the desert South West of New Mexico our winds are way more productive.
@a.b.gibson65212 жыл бұрын
Thanks for using Miles Per Hour, & making the whole thing understandable.👍
@MrSummitville Жыл бұрын
At 1 penny of electricity per day ... Do you now understand that it is worthless?
@garethevans63552 жыл бұрын
I was considering one of these on top of my campervan alongside my solar as obviously it will be going 10 to the dozen on the motorway ect.
@James-op6ls4 жыл бұрын
This video has everything. It's a cocktail of emotion
@mashamambea57044 жыл бұрын
Hey Andy nice video pls do a part 2 of the wind turbine am thinking of getting one or increase PV and battery thanks again for the very informative video. Much respect from Kenya.
@MarksRandomVideos Жыл бұрын
Hi Andy, Great video! Fellow techie and electro-hobbiest. Recently been e-bike building/modding, 60v 1800w hub setup is coming along well, came across your name a few times during research. Also FPV droning and DIYing solar - this reminded me I also have a nice 1500w turbine from Missouri wind and solar sat at the unit, think the unboxing is still on here somewhere. I took it down several years back as it seemed all a bit pointless/expensive and almost dangerous near to the house, whilst being subject to the below mentioned turbulence, anyway may put it back on now the energy crisis is here and getting back into renewables. Lastly - Subbed!
@rayg90695 жыл бұрын
The 24 Volt turbine charge controller will not work correctly without a 24 Volt battery connected to it, the Victron is expecting a solar panel which can be loaded down to it's MPTT voltage of about 17 Volts for a 12 Volt system, the turbine controller is most likely in a protection mode at 17 Volts. Don't connect a battery directly to the input of your Victron either, it will over current itself and burn out, it's expecting high source impedance from the solar panel giving that characteristic knee curve you see on panel performance data.
@fadajuiceful4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@PeterMilanovski3 жыл бұрын
I would consider what the output from the three phase Controller is, if the victron input is the MPPT type, it needs more than 12v-18v to utilize the power coming in from the wind or solar, so basically, if the three phase Controller is output isn't outputting the 24v that the mppt controller needs to work at it's best, then you might need to get rid of the controller that came with the turbine and Go directly from the rectifier to the victron.. hope this helps 🙂
@MrSummitville Жыл бұрын
No, nothing will help "junk" ...
@ZoeyR865 жыл бұрын
The victron is telling you the amount of power that HAS been stored into the battery the the rc meter is telling you the power production the difference is charging losses. With mppt solar best if input voltage is 1.5-3x battery voltage with wind you want to get as close to the max input as you can. You need a pwm charger with a buck-boost support. Also look into ideal diodes using half-bridge mosfet you can save a lot of power and add braking functionality. I made cust firmware for a 100A opto hobby esc turning it into a ideal diode and buck boost charger by using a feedback.
@Rambo-yz5rr3 жыл бұрын
Do you have the victron controller because your batteries are lithium? Would the smaller white controller that came with the turbine be fine to connect straight to deep cycle gel, or sealed lead acid batteries?
@honda40045 жыл бұрын
i wonder if you made a dyson type in their hoovers cyclone funnels cone at front of the blades circumference would amplify the pressure air ratio
@iamthetinkerman5 жыл бұрын
lol no! you're creating drag! Works great when connected to a motor a plugged into a wall though obviously!
@honda40045 жыл бұрын
i was thinking the cyclone vortex would create a back vacuum suck vortex at the rear of the blades like when you whistle the sound must come from pressurised vibrational friction/air cause
@thewindturbinechannel57685 жыл бұрын
Windmills are great i love wind turbines🤗
@MrSummitville4 жыл бұрын
WHY ?
@louie8888888885 жыл бұрын
Super video mate please keep them coming nice to see good video.
@zeppelin.1874_3 жыл бұрын
How much wind speed (what category) can (able to) resist? The limit of wind speed?
@000000055475 жыл бұрын
It might be the turbine controller since it's designed at 24v, it might not output anything if the turbine is below that. Try eliminating it and using your bridge rectifier directly to the solar charger.
@simfungreek5 жыл бұрын
Not a good idea to use a solar charge controller on a wind turbine. After reaching highest voltage limit, normally it disconnects the wind turbine's input and the turbine runs without load with the risk of overspeeding. I would recommend a 12V wind charge controller for 500W turbines.
@jeniferai64015 жыл бұрын
why not try our new arrival, quite, safe and high efficiency with maglev generator. Fashion and save space.!!!
@oldbatwit51024 жыл бұрын
@@jeniferai6401 Sure Jenifer.... send me one and I will happily try it.
@chrismofer4 жыл бұрын
@@simfungreek I don't quite get how these turbines could overspeed... what would happen to it? it has bearings right? why can't it just spin fast if it wants to
@simfungreek4 жыл бұрын
@@chrismofer Any motor speeding over it's factory specs, could be damaged. If lucky, turbine blades would be broken before motor damage.
@cougar18612 жыл бұрын
The quick answer to the title's question in the form of more questions: 1) does the turbine, in its operational lifetime, generated considerably more energy than it took to manufacture it and all the ancillary components to make it function ... assuming a comprehensive and accurate measure of manufacturing energy expended, and 2) does the consumer actually use a sizable fraction of the energy that could be generated by the turbine?
@NithinJune2 жыл бұрын
Wait so what's the answer
@cougar18612 жыл бұрын
@@NithinJune The overall answer is "Yes" only if the answers (to #1 and #2) are "yes." Otherwise, "No."
@1invag2 жыл бұрын
@@cougar1861 how would you calculate - 1? We factoring in the energy required for the paint. To produce every individual bolt? If we want an true value yes we would. But ain't no one calculating that... The cost of energy required to do any of those things would fluctuate constantly... Would depend on when and where the individual components were produced. Just calculate the cost of the kit in full when you bought it and go from there. We're not manufacturing these things for profit, that's the job of the person who built the stuff to calculate that shit. And he will have factored all that into his costing for final rrp (hell be wanting a profit obviously) so if you spent 3 grand on it all, it cost less than 3 grands worth of power to produce, that's a given. Unless your buying second hand, then it just gets complicated again... Basically just go off what you paid and not worry about the rest
@cougar18612 жыл бұрын
@@1invag I'm not picking on you/your product. I've made the same comment at every, of the many, chance I get. And I'm not talking about money "value." At this stage of imminent climate crisis, $$$ accounting has to give way to energy accounting because CO2 emission is the unavoidable consequence of fossil fuel use. Thus the appearance of alternative energy products as this wind turbine. It's a general, very important issue: if an alternative energy "solution" requires more energy (i.e. CO2 emission) to produce than the projected "CO2-free energy" it will deliver in it's useful lifetime, then there is no reason for it to exist --- IF the overall purpose is to address the issue of climate crisis. if you are "not manufacturing these things for profit," then what IS the reason for manufacturing them, if not to provide a valid alternate energy source, as above?
@Wornout1 Жыл бұрын
@@cougar1861 thanks I couldn't have put it better myself
@mattwoodproperty5 жыл бұрын
Hi Andy, is there any info of what rpm produces 500w?
@natebaird Жыл бұрын
Really makes me appreciate how drama-free and relatively easy solar is. Was considering diversifying the renewable power for my off-grid bus but wind seems impractical for my purposes. Thanks for the video!
@SF-dy6hn Жыл бұрын
Solar is wildly expensive I know assholes that try to charge $50,000 to rig up an entire house, wind on the other hand just requires electric motors and mechanical energy very primitive and cheap by comparison. The big disadvantage of wind energy though is that you have to actually be good at physics you can't just guess. Where as installing solar panels is a mindless task similar to installing shingles. If you're smart, but poor wind is an excellent option. If you're rich and dumb go with solar.
@natebaird Жыл бұрын
@@SF-dy6hn why'd you respond to my comment lol
@SF-dy6hn Жыл бұрын
@@natebaird To correct you. Wind can be cheaper and more profitable than solar and as for drama that's all just personal perspective isn't it?
@natebaird Жыл бұрын
@@SF-dy6hn lol you're a trip, man. Glad wind is working out for you. The more renewable energy, the better.
@mareck69463 жыл бұрын
@Andy Kirby the discrepancy is most likely due to the fact that your using a mppt - which senses a while and adjusts on load change. theese are not particulairly great for such fluctuating loads. use a pwm fed by the rectifier from the wind turbine in parallel to the mppt from pv & batteries instead to not loose that power (Wind ->Rect->fuse->pwm->fuse->batt). btw. loving what you do - i am pretty similar minded haha from europe - germany. actually want to get a twizzy sometime ( loved what you did with it ). Kind of want to do the same - tires + twizzy box for commuting :)
@danrkelly5 жыл бұрын
Ah, Andy, you seem like a lovely chap. Really enjoyed the video.
@andykirby5 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@thra5herxb12s3 жыл бұрын
I started with a Rutland mounted on a pole on the shed, but it suffered from too much turbulance and didn't do a lot even in a hurricane. I then fitted an airbreeze on the side of the house. When it really ripped, The noise in the house sounded like a Chinook was landing on the roof. I tried to video the noise indoors but the sound never came out properly. In 4 years I dont think it paid for itself. I took it down when I built my extension, but I wouldn't mind a bigger one on a mast. Just need to get it high enough above the rooftops to get over the turbulance.
@stevemccormack9948 Жыл бұрын
Interesting to see how the turbine holds up to wear and tear. I wonder how is it for water resistance?
@badbob83945 жыл бұрын
Does the pole have a lightning ground?
@paulh18605 жыл бұрын
Yep, the lithium batteries 👍
@yo-ry1np2 жыл бұрын
😳
@davejohnson98234 жыл бұрын
You didn't mention price that I remember. I like seeing these new energy sources. Now a big fan as of yet. My uncle bought 6 for $100,000 and they were junk in a year. I think there was some contentious conversation between his employee and the installation person, he removed the brakes.
@deprimat6663 жыл бұрын
6 for 100,000 ahahahaha he got ripped off these cost like $300 each lmao
@lucdenecker81602 жыл бұрын
i have an mppt 75/10 and a windmill of 400watt i can see the voltage on the victron octo gx but not how many watts that yield what do I do wrong or how to set
@davidwinter29594 жыл бұрын
Where can I buy one of those rectifyers ply I've looked on every site
@CaptainK0075 жыл бұрын
Gutted I got a 12v one, next to useless with the wind we have here in Surrey. Run my man cave from 6 100w panels, 4 x 110ah leisure batteries on a 12v system with 3.5kw inverter. I get 4 hours of 3 double strip lights, drill chargers, gadgets n gizmos. Just about self sustaining with 2-3 in the cave sessions a week if there’s a bit of sunshine about. This Easter weekend I’m off, sun is forecast it should be whopping the amps in with a lot of cave time. I bought the turbine the same time as the panels. I’m hoping it will be the top up in the winter months when there is less sunshine and less cave time. However like yourself I have been monitoring it when it’s having a whizz and it ain’t much cop. That charger you have is the same as mine, just different voltage apparently it has a brake for the turbine (that’s from Chinese supplier) to stop overcharging and turbine over speed so probably uses a fet to short the windings. I went and got a Victron 150/35 pv, BMV 702 and the Venus network interface to replace the Renogy rover 40. And mad coincidence I got the bridge rectifier too. I’m going to cut out the the standard controller, fit the bridge rec and fire it into the Renogy box. I don’t hold out much hope as it’s a 12v turbine but like you say toyz to play with. I reckon my system should pay for itself about 3 years after I’m dead 😂 enjoy your vids keep em coming.
@JohnnyMotel995 жыл бұрын
I think it goes without saying that wind + solar is the efficient combination
@macsheadroom32095 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your information...nice to hear from others their set up...
@davidpotter94622 жыл бұрын
I had six 100 watt panels but in July I added four more ; when I did my amps doubled...I have six 110 AH batteries and eight 90 AH ones...I bought the smaller ones at first so I could save up for an Aims Power 2000 watts inverter / charger 24 volts...I used a 40 amp Epever controller...so far , every time I think about a wind generator I wind up getting two more solar panels
@CaptainK0072 жыл бұрын
@@davidpotter9462 it’s not until you get a wind generator that you realise how little wind there is when you want it. 😂
@techpriest47873 жыл бұрын
Today I learned about IC DC and Soda Panels. :D
@HamedAdefuwa3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂👍
@dragienfrost25723 жыл бұрын
Lol 😄
@sakayanko2 жыл бұрын
Hey Andy, Very interesting video. We had a small off grid bed n breakfast in the island of Siargao and were hit by supertyphoon Rai last December 16 2021. We were looking before to combine our solar panels (which we have with 2 15kva victron inverters (48v) with some wind turbines. There is not a lot of good information out there (or we have not really come across it on how to go about it and most people say we should not use victron mppt with wind turbines. We would totally buy a kit (turbine, charge controllers, dump load from you if you were able to provide us with a good solution. Did you get any further with the turbine? does it still work?
@wesleyyap68834 жыл бұрын
can you link wind and solar to the same charge unit to power lithium iron battery
@SteveV19605 жыл бұрын
I would get a big fan plugged into an extension cord and mount on the pole next to the wind turbine. When there is no wind ,I would just turn the fan on to make it turn.
@abrahamvinod98044 жыл бұрын
stonks
@daviddavids28844 жыл бұрын
absolutely ABSURD. you should crawl back to the creche.
@brocky783 жыл бұрын
You need both wind & solar to be sure to get some power!
@MrSummitville3 жыл бұрын
For most people, a Wind Turbine will just drain your wallet of all cash ...
@jaredkarpinski34604 жыл бұрын
very good video you covered alot that i was curious about but for were i live im gonna stick with solar panels plus no moving parts that will wear out and break down but it is cool i will give it that good luck with it mate
@Aaron162115 жыл бұрын
Electrically heated in floor coils can absorb a lot of off grid electricity. Insulated thermal mass concrete and tile floors could be heated with the windy winter. Is it windy in your winter season?
@benlawton54205 жыл бұрын
3 phase cable and one of the 3 has earth colour code :) as long as they're all the same guage it doesn't matter.
@daviddavids28844 жыл бұрын
do you realize you rendered your Own comment, pointless.
@tomr69554 жыл бұрын
@@daviddavids2884 I found it insightful. Kinda
@ahaveland5 жыл бұрын
Good video Andy - I love wind turbines, but I think this particular one isn't worth it because it's far too small to be useful, and little more than a toy. Still, it's fun to play with! With blade lengths of a couple of metres or more, then you're looking at multiple kW, but also planning issues with the council. Only really suitable for rural areas and rich landowners really.
@ianharvey36962 жыл бұрын
Or people with diesel generators for when its not windy!!!
@worldcomicsreview3542 жыл бұрын
Depends on your purpose, not everybody's installing renewables to "run the house" or "pay for itself". Anything you can generate at home takes load off the grid, and the solar generator revolution is just getting started. My little Anker only puts out 300 watts, it doesn't need charging with 5000!
@17buckrogers4 жыл бұрын
placement is key to weather if you get wind power or not
@aspudkicker4 жыл бұрын
Have you considered conduit or s.w.a as protection for the external cables?
@andykirby4 жыл бұрын
Yes, this isn’t really a permanent setup it was really just done as a test. I will be moving this turbine (or getting a bigger one) and repositioning it on a bigger mast.
@MinusNoir4 жыл бұрын
I'm sure it would run an electric fan of similar size! ;D
@MrSummitville3 жыл бұрын
A much smaller fan ...
@conmcgrath75025 жыл бұрын
Before we even mention 'dump loads', does that wind gen self regulate in high winds? If it does, then my experience thus far (with similar products) is that it will burn out during the first storm (prolonged high winds) you get. You need to fit a dump load circuit for any decent wind gen and FULL MARKS for recovering that power! But my experience thus far with high performance wind gens that are manufactured using chinesium is that they will burn out......they cannot handle the sustained generation of power in high winds, EVEN with dump loads. The dump load protects the battery bank from 'over-volts', it DOES NOT stop the wind gen from turning and producing power; I've seen (marine rated/claimed) gens go into 'brake mode' in high winds...I've seen them burned out a few weeks later...............more than once, twice, trice..... I have also witnessed a 150w rated wind gen, of comparable size, with a dump load (MorningStar?) on a deserted, windblown islet in the Shetlands, perform for years and survive serious storms...wish I could remember the manufacturer, I believe German, but salutary lesson, don't believe all the claims for a product and don't go for the highest claimed power, sometimes you have to pay for the good stuff. I wish you luck,
@matthewmaxwell-burton45495 жыл бұрын
The ones that come stock with sailing boats are usually good quality if that can help your search.
@zogworth5 жыл бұрын
Those crappy little controllers just short the windings to break them. How ever this one won't as it's not connected to the battery. But the MPPT controller with a totally unsuitable algorithm on it.
@Dave64track5 жыл бұрын
Great video looks like a decent turbine regarding the Victron charge controller what model would you recommend. In a video if you get chance could you show us how your controller is setup with the raspberry pi for monitoring devices etc it would be much appreciated.
@markphillips80194 жыл бұрын
spotted your IC-7100 on the desk. Are you running that from your batteries? How do you manage the under-voltage issues that plague it?
@wmtrader5 жыл бұрын
Interesting content but a handheld steadicam and a small desktop tripod would make the videos easier to watch.
@apntv5 жыл бұрын
I get to see the Rampion Wind Farm out of my window these days :-)
@rudraradasandaran13893 жыл бұрын
I'm in the same room for me to do
@rudraradasandaran13893 жыл бұрын
I'm in Adelaide and have been looking
@rudraradasandaran13893 жыл бұрын
I'm in a hurry
@rudraradasandaran13893 жыл бұрын
I'm not going for it now though
@rudraradasandaran13893 жыл бұрын
I'm not going
@michaelpmk2 Жыл бұрын
Does that precision power analyser watt meter need to be connected to a load (battery) for it to show how many watts is generating from the turbine? Or will it show how many watts is generating when only connected to the turbine and the load side not connected to anything ?? Anyone?
@colincrooky2 жыл бұрын
Hi Andy, very interesting thank you. I couldn’t help notice all the screw connectors, have you heard of WAGO? They are brilliant spring loaded connectors which are very easy to use and never come loose.
@MrSummitville Жыл бұрын
Let's *WASTE* more money ? No ...
@josephjohn9075 жыл бұрын
You are in Great Britain that have about 30% of Europe's wind,I thought that your wind Turbine should generate more than it's rated out put. I am dissatisfied by the numbers that it is outputting. Regardless any Renewables are better. Small scale Solar PV is better Thanks for the video!
@RetiredRhetoricalWarhorse5 жыл бұрын
"Regardless any Renewables are better." I'm confused. Better than what and better at what?
@josephjohn9075 жыл бұрын
@@RetiredRhetoricalWarhorse. Better than Household Wind Turbines
@cresshead5 жыл бұрын
"is it worth it"...dunno how much is the turbine?
@Martin_Hewitt5 жыл бұрын
Came here for this, I haven't watched the full video yet, but I doubt we will findout from the video. I've already down voted this..
@MrSummitville4 жыл бұрын
Not worth $0.00
@irishguy2000074 жыл бұрын
It's the Copper I tell you, the copper.
@irishguy2000074 жыл бұрын
The Copper, or the lack of it.
@ashtongrist3 жыл бұрын
is it more or less exiting than whatever your will use the electricity for?
@thetruth7633 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! My solar panel break even point is 1 year with current kWh price of roughly 0.90 EUR instead of the usual 0.22 EUR. Thing are crazy here so looking for solutions to get more self sufficient. Wind power is not near as reliability and power production as solar but all small amounts help. We have black-outs as well due to overload on the power grid. AC jumped from ~220V to sometimes 250V which can be harmful to some electronics.
@poptartheroes4 жыл бұрын
I gotta find myself a link to your music. Im losing concentration by those sweet beats
@andykirby4 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks! I’m on Spotify and all the other streaming platforms, search my name Andy Kirby😁
@kobie15853 жыл бұрын
hahaha, thought i was the only one
@mrcorndog6255 жыл бұрын
my PC can now turn on when its windy
@kahlernygard8093 жыл бұрын
2 3kw hivawTs and 20kw of solar with battery bank, build house anywhere In world
@danc82783 жыл бұрын
Better get eating beans
@nw76965 жыл бұрын
Where the turbine connects to the pole, does a slip-ring bearing interface the two?
@MeltingRubberZ284 жыл бұрын
I would assume tapered roller
@randomrev4 жыл бұрын
can be attached to a grid tie inverter? or only to battery?
@thelwq5 жыл бұрын
I can recommand proper controller, this one can not user wind generator correctly.
@mteca50934 жыл бұрын
Which controller do you recommend
@thelwq4 жыл бұрын
@@mteca5093 For instance Midnite controllers do have hydro and wind source features...
@thesurvivalist.4 жыл бұрын
If your near a stream, use a water turbine! Water runs everyday all day!
@OldNavajoTricks4 жыл бұрын
Waterlily do one, if not buying then a washing machine motor can generate well...
@ZerHour2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff 👍 what connector is it for the watt meter ( the constant power on idea ) ? Is it micro USB
@icommentshit74865 жыл бұрын
If your allowed you should put it higher and it will work better even in low winds.i used to have mine as high as yours worked alright b.ut now it's on top of my roof and works so much so much better
@ursodermatt88095 жыл бұрын
mate, you will absolutely find you wasted your money. i found a solar panel makes about 400 times more money for the same money. but hei, everybody is entitled to make their own experiences.
@nismo4x4n5 жыл бұрын
True but this will work at night as well. I came to the same conclusion as you when I figured out I'd need about 40km/h winds to do anything useful with.
@MrCarlRobinson5 жыл бұрын
Like he said, don’t get one to save money. A hybrid system will give a better average power output over the year than a single resource system. The problem lies in the position of the turbine, and average wind speed at your location. The potential output of a turbine increases with the rotor diameter squared, but also with the wind speed cubed. The turbine needs to be 10m above all closest obstructions to ensure laminar flow over the blades.
@baronvonlimbourgh17165 жыл бұрын
@@MrCarlRobinson just buy more pv.
@ktm420803 жыл бұрын
So far every turbine video I've seen has been disappointing, as far as output.
@MrSummitville Жыл бұрын
Of course ...
@abdulrahmanmadeni83952 жыл бұрын
What is the name of your gadget that show the input value from wind turbine before it reachs MPPT?
@cskeise3 жыл бұрын
Hi Andy... I`m having a 62` x 12` wind beam barge built with an electric motor using 6 x 330w solar panels to charge the lithium batteries, so liking the idea of wind turbine generator instead of duel fuel generator as I want to be totally electric powered. What do you think? Can you please let me know...💙👊😎
@TimNobody-es5bi10 ай бұрын
Is it worth it? No.
@xXJusTMichelxX19 күн бұрын
Hello sir, I have a wind turbine and my microwave and washing machine are making a high pitch sound. Do you know why? I have 218-222V but I wanna mention that I don't have the ground installed yet. Thank you
@jonathanclarkin88442 жыл бұрын
Love how it's a wind turbine to be more eco yet it's package in..... styrofoam....
@anttivalimaki73392 жыл бұрын
I would like four of these, in every corner in our house to the top of maybe flag pole:) maybe high velosity power train to cellar where generator could be, common of quartet😀
@kiyotakakaneko3602 Жыл бұрын
I am trying to use a wind generator as a fan and it spins reliably. And it works well with solar panels.
@simonbates72852 жыл бұрын
Hi buddy Can you tell me where you got your cable to keep the watt meter on constantly, I have the same problem and can't find one (maybe I'm typing it the wrong name) Thanks 👍
@benc6384 Жыл бұрын
I'm just glad he knows his single phase cable from his 3 phase cable 👍😄 I'm a subscriber mate, just razzn ya😅
@xanataph5 жыл бұрын
I presume that little wind controller has some kind of dump load or electronic breaking built into it? I reckon the trouble might be that since the Victron's MPPT is designed for tracking solar panels, it might have trouble locking on to the intermittent nature of the wind output. That might account for the lower power level you're getting out of there. You do need some kind of DC-DC conversion to match it to your batteries, what about trying a basic DC-DC converter module with some kind of voltage sensitive relay that would switch the turbines output to a dump load when the batteries are reaching near top of charge? A SEPIC topology unit here might hit your target voltage more often. Bear in mind it would have to deal with constantly being powered then un-powered with the wind. Then, just let your solar setup finish the batteries off to as high as you normally go. I agree that wind turbines are not an "economic" proposition unless you live in an area that has near constant winds, as some places do. However, they are kind of more fun to play with than solar panels, which just sit there. :)
@chrisp40283 жыл бұрын
Hi! So it is tje 500w generater..... What is the top watt generat in the last year? Thank you!
@dayanandkasle51463 жыл бұрын
Why u used two different controller and series connection?
@MagicMarvin332 жыл бұрын
How much would a complete set up like this cost and is it worth it? I'm looking at wind v solar I live up on a hill so get some good wind but no idea on the price if solar in the uk is better.
@ajeesh3485 Жыл бұрын
how did you get that app working? is the app comes bundled with the kit? can the app work on other wind turbine kits?
@vinniemcloughlin78482 жыл бұрын
I bought a similar turbine on eBay five blade 12 V found it was only ever good in really windy days!! Like it had to be making the swooshing noise for it to make power at all, just spinning quickly wasn't enough. But when that thing was spinning it was chucking 4-5 Amps at 12 V at least into my power bank. Living in the UK it's quite a good feeling after few days of overcast (Little solar) and then have storm blow through and wake up to a fully charged battery bank bliss. My off grid home is in the valley with a persistent Direction of wind but getting the turbine high as possible is key.
@MrSummitville Жыл бұрын
Wind Turbines are RATED at 11m/s or 25 mph. So, who has that that?
@showme3604 жыл бұрын
Andy have you balanced the blades?....don’t use five blades because they are not as efficient! I was looking to do this but planning is required, even so I was going to go ahead, and make it lever up and down, so when the wind drops for days on end I will take it down. Looking at the voltage level problem, why don’t you feed it into a bunch of capacitors, and then drain off into the battery when full to help smooth the load?
@gedisTT2 жыл бұрын
hi everyone, where can i get that mouting connector for turbine. I have got 2 turbines, but can not find that connector for pole!!! How does it called, where to find to buy? Its like it does not exist. You can see it in the video 4:39 pole mount and then flat surface connector to the turbine. Thanks
@rbhb25 жыл бұрын
Hi Andy, could you provide a link or name for the scaffold pole connector at 2:04? I have never seen one with a base and they look exactly what I need. Thank you.
@andykirby5 жыл бұрын
Try this, the same seller has all the bits. rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F183270960513
@projected69532 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if you really need a seg meter for a grid tie system? Basically I want to install a solar system myself. Would the grid tie lower my energy bill without one of those meters. Thanks
@MrSummitville Жыл бұрын
This is not a FORUM for such questions. Join a DIY PV forum ...