That's a damn underrated comment :'D

@@bencebuda4599 That's because back in the day someone might try to stab you after shaking your hand. Remember, Ju Jitsu was a samurai art.

This is gold lmao

@@Mike_LaFontaine75 cringe

@@annyeongh8rs815 Why are you cringing?

I could have said this. I've long been in Kenpo.

@@nolanbowen8800same here I do Okinawan kenpo and Japanese jiujitsu but sometimes I’ll mix it with Krav Maga or judo

traditional japanese jiu jitsu 5th dan black belt here! I run a traditional japanese jiu jitsu company and with the help of some other black belts, we coach over 2000 students!

I just started BJJ and I think it's priceless to see how so many moves from other martial arts, considered highly effective, are taken right from Japanese jiujitsu. And I agree, people should continue to teach and practise it, even if it's just to preserve it.

Thank goodness because the market is over saturated with Brazilian jiu-jitsu

Lol i know right

🤣🤣🤣

Yeah thats the worst part of JJ for me

AS you see 😊

yeah, agree

ukemis

Damn, if I weren't a martial artist I would laugh my ass off at how that comment sounds

@@kakuto435 Jū-Jutsu

@@kakuto435 *cringe

BJJ isn't even rooted in JJJ. BJJ comes from judo.

@@kendaldk5634 And Judo comes from JJJ, so there’s that…

@@kendaldk5634 actually BJJ is more newaza ...the part of the ju jitsu that explored grappling on the floor....not saying is bad, just mentioning what it is...

why

@@bombastikderteutone6858 Because if we're talking about functionality of the technique, our opponent will not ever use the gi, long clothes or some sort of uniform.

@@123starwalker yeah if you live on bora bora , i suppose your correct

@@bombastikderteutone6858 well, I live in Mexico, where te streets fights would be probably more realistic than any other point. I mean, we're not like the U.S movies shows but here the people are really hot headed, and in some parts of the country people have the habit of take off their shirt precisely for avoiding things like grip their clothes. I think that the U.S perception of "functionality" for a martial art it's functional in sports themes but not realistic in the context, unfortunately, when the U.S says something they think that they have the whole truth. The difference in the law and social systems make that this kind of things, like throwing without gripping, be important.

@@123starwalker ah thats very interesting! fair point. I live cur. in northern europe and the people wear like Jackets all the time. sometimes really thick. (well, not from may to august) Ive not been in many street fights, happy about it - but I witnessed actually quite a few. Most of them started out of complet bullshit - easily couldve been avoided. My point is - almost all "street fights" here - involved some grabbing of clothes and jackets- Sometimes even in the extend that - the other person could not get away from the punches.. Defense against grabs sounded therefore important to me.. Anyway ripping of the shirt sounds like a great trick - havent really thought about it that much^^

Hi Dr Patrick We will certainly do that and you’re right that there are not many traditional JJJ dojo’s in the U.K. either. The students we have are a dedicated bunch especially when it takes 8-10 years to get black belt. That’s a lot of pain for a piece of black fabric

@@garysallows5752 Where are you guys located in the U.K.?

@@pricepatrick644 We’re located in Bury St Edmunds. It’s around 70 miles from central London 90 mins by train

Im a 14 year old Japanese jujutsu black belt and i have hardly ever seen anyone talking about the art or posting videos on it which is very disappointing

@@garysallows5752 Never been that way, hopefully, we can make a visit one day to your school. One thing you may like is we teach our upper students old healing methods and the meridians of the body, so they can work on themselves as well.

This is ju jutsu jiu jutsu is different do you know this i dont think you do

Sure buddy ubtil you try to use it in an aftual fight hahahaha

@@hattorihaso2579traditional Jujutsu has been used in more than one "...aftual fights..."...hahahaha

@@cyberserk5614 ok sure buddy😂

@@hattorihaso2579 the next thing you're going to tell me is:"the Samurai never had a real swordfight until Tom Cruise came along hahaha..."

Watch it all day long but you won't find anythng

​@@moehoward8691 Nyuck, nyuck, nyuck

😭😭😭

Thank you, that is a huge compliment from clearly a dedicated martial artist. As you have pointed out it is a battle field art and grabbing of clothing was not possible when in armour. It translates well to self defence as the attacker may be simply wearing a t shirt which would rip if relied on for a throw. Also hands and fingers can be damaged in an altercation so this makes it difficult to grab. I’m a big fan of Judo and BJJ. It’s a shame that their focus can sometimes be too much on sport and competition. Both arts originally had a big emphasis on self defence. I wish you well in your continued journey.

@@ryoishintowaryuheiho4156 I agree with your statement

​@@ryoishintowaryuheiho4156I love your throws without relying in the gi. I teach this for no gi grappling sensei. Ossss

Cross training Traditional jujitsu, judo and BJJ is an outstanding trio.

Other way around. JuJutsu schools are incorporated into the Bujinkan. Many of these taijutsu techniques are seen in shinden fudo ryu, takagi yoshin ryu and some seen in gyokko and kukishin ryu. All part of the Bujinkan, Genbukan and Jinenkan.

I saw musha dori, waki gatame, hon gyaku, ura gyaku, fukiro oshi and more technics presents on Bujinkan.

Bujinkan is made up of multiple RyuHa that contain Jujutsu and weapons.

I think that talking about differences between "sport Ju Jitsu" and "combat Ju Jitsu", has really no sense, here. It's only a demonstration of the tecniques of this school. 😉

These guys follow very closely the tradition and spirit

Thank you. You will appreciate the demonstration for what it is. Other comments in the thread accuse it of not being realistic because of ukes compliance but that defeats the object of demonstrating the techniques. Next video I will ask uke to fight to show how JJJ can flow from one technique to another until the opponent is subdued. I guess if you don’t train JJJ you don’t understand it. I wish you good training

@@ryoishintowaryuheiho4156 I can certainly appreciate the hard work and skill in your technique, my friends.

@@ryoishintowaryuheiho4156Well done with this demonstration! I have trained since mid 1980's using JJJ as my foundation and I am a combat veteran. Reading some of the negative comments here, it is obvious that those people have a limited martial education and a closed mind. These techniques have many variations and can be blended with other arts. Keep up the good work. Train hard and stay safe!💮

@@ryoishintowaryuheiho4156 We used to do 'shark bait' training where uke 9(or two) would do a more realistic attack. Thing is, most techniques are supposed to be damaging, you have to pull some punches.

We are all branches from the same tree. Variations are good. I love seeing other systems take on things. I often come away from a seminar with a better way of doing a particular technique. Good luck in your journey to my friend.

Definitely good fitness in BJJ. Doing both when you find a JJ school will have merit.

Thank you Gabriel. Do you train?

BJJ was developed mainly from Judo which was itself developed from traditional jujitsu.

@@digs1223 Yeah, but there are tons of jujitsu schools out there that focus way too much on one area. What I like about this demo is that it goes from releasing the grab to manipulating with joint locks to a takedown/finish. Judo has obviously done a great service for throwing techniques, BJJ has done the same for ground work, and I've always hoped that that someone would raise the bar for joint manipulations so they could be tied in properly. It's just a bit tricky, as sparring and pressure testing with joint locks makes it easy to get wrist injuries (carpal tunnel syndrome is not uncommon even in BJJ...)

Thank you Paul and that is a lovely way to explain how a lot of the modern systems can trace their routes back to JuJutsu. I trained in Aiki Jutsu for 10 years achieving 4th Dan but became fascinated with the Koryu arts. As Digs points out BJJ was derived from Judo and Judo was derived from JuJutsu. Sway71 makes a good point. For the purpose of this demonstration uke does not offer resistance following atemi. This is for two reasons. One because it is demonstration of technique and the interruption of resistance prevents this being performed and secondly, a well timed atemi can momentarily distract the attackers rhythm allowing the technique to be executed. Naturally with JuJutsu if resistant is met we simply flow in to another technique and then another until the attacker is subdued. It is not possible to demonstrate this by hitting uke in the face or kneeing him properly in the groin but anyone that has had that happen to them can vouch that it does upset the equilibrium of things. I have witnessed many unnecessary injuries as a result of over excited students forcing a technique on a non compliant student. It doesn’t take a genius to know that forcing someone’s wrist or shoulder to go in a direction it doesn’t normally go will result in an injury but some people seem to need to learn the hard way.

@@rickr2772 I love Hapkido! Never tried it but I used to watch the guys train before my judo club went in. Do you still train?

@@rickr2772 Haha, I actually trained in Hapkido for about 3-4 years before the quarantine. I was prepping for my black belt test before all this.

Hey Zak, You’re right it is a beautiful art and has more meaning when in armour. If you google Mondo Ryu (which is a style I trained in when I was in Japan) they do a lot of training in armour. It doesn’t always look pretty as both participants are trying to defeat each other so their is zero compliance but that is the difference between demonstration and resistance training. Most of the time you resort to simple techniques like hip and shoulder throws and reaps to get the other person on the ground but instead a fancy pin you look to kill them with whatever weapons you have at that time. This is Koryu battlefield training at the end of the day. Not pretty but effective. I was due to return this year but due to Covid it was cancelled. I hope to do training in armour next time I go.

I’m glad you mentioned that, a common criticism is the obsession with wrist grabs...well, given that both combatants would be armed with at the very least knives then grabbing your opponents arm makes sense ☺️

Thank you Paco, that is a huge compliment

My Sempai threw Master Clark all over the dojo. Weak fat squab.

Jiu Jitsu is borrowed from Kalaripayattu.....

@@hridayhoney6080 No it isn't.

@@yasashii89 yes it is

@@hridayhoney6080 what are your sources?

Borrow? It's called evolution dude. BJJ is the better version of JJ nowadays

exactly true, atemi is key

I once studied Iwama Ryu Aikido, and with them, atemi was key. Imagine aikido with atemi that was also meaningful and essential to starting the technique and you saw real aikido. Their reason for using atemi in aikido: "Someone is trying to hurt you!"

The key principle of RSWR and any self defence system for that matter is to block or parry the initial attack, then you deploy an atemi of some sort. I know that some teach that this just needs to be the suggestion of fingers to the eyes but I prefer a strike to chin or bridge of nose and let’s not forget a knee to the groin or mae geri to the stomach to focus someone’s mind. I say this because if drunk or on drugs they may not get the hint whereas a physical impact is felt and the body will react even if the brain doesn’t. Next we apply our appropriate technique (having a back up plan if there is still resistance) and finally we take some level of control by way of a pin or ground lock technique. Ultimately our aim is not to intentionally cause unnecessary harm.

@@theoneanton not manu Aikido schools allow atemi only ever seen it in old Shioda sensei and some very old Ueshiba sensei vids.

Read the Wikipedia article on Morihei Ueshiba (Aikido's O-sensei) and a lot of the misconceptions of Aikido get blown away. Put it this way; he wasn't teaching the Black Dragon Society the ways of flower arranging! People living near this dojo are lucky for the opportunity to train this stuff. Great video, thanks for sharing.

He gets plenty of practice. He’s been with the club from day one 8 years ago. Had an Aikido background so was already proficient at ukemi. One of my best students hopefully getting his black belt next year. He gets his own back on me don’t worry

Teach what? Choreography?

Johnny K No martial arts. If your looking for a pole dancing class you won't find it here buttercup.

@@stevenlarsson6887 Adorable. I fought pro, you play jedi. Talk tough online, you can't anywhere else. That's a fact.

@@johnnyk5385 Foxy boxing and jello wrestling don't really count man.

@@stevenlarsson6887 Nah, that's only where I met your mother. I competed back in the 90s, back when she was just finding her stride.

Just do SD at a gracie school. They'll teach you this non sense too.

@@johnnyk5385 if the SD taught by Gracie schools is "non sense" what have the Gracies built their empire on?

@@cyberserk5614 Good question actually. They started to push that BS when they no longer rules the roost in competition. They had built a huge rep and they marketed it with all they had. What's interesting is, if you watch UFC 1-3 or any of Rickson's Vale Tudo, you won't see any of thag BS being used.

@@cyberserk5614 Also, you're a simp who doesn't train.

@@johnnyk5385 I started training Goju Ryu Karate in 1980, went on to Kickboxing, Krav Maga and Koryu Budo & traditional Jujutsu. I've trained all my life and have worked as bouncer for 21 years and you still haven't answered when traditional martial arts died, nobody could remember a single technique that works and suddenly, out of nowhere the Brazilians invented realistic self defence so don't throw around insults before you've done your homework bitch.

Hi Craig, you are a practitioner? As you have already established there is always an atemi of some kind in order to upset the rhythm of the attack and facilitate the response technique. As you can appreciate this is simply a demo and doesn’t account for uke resisting or me landing the atemis and the effect it would have on him. For the purpose of the video he attacks and allows me to execute the technique in full. In our resistance training we simply flow in to something else. We never fight for one technique when there are many more in the tool bag. What do you train in?

@@ryoishintowaryuheiho4156 I train in another Japanese Jujitsu. Waza, are just templates for people. A bit like learning the A,B,C's and then start making words. I know what you must do for DEMO's. It is just 99.9% of people don't understand that. It is the small movements that make the technique work, much like tuning in an old FM radio, you can find the radio station quickly, but it takes a bit more time to clear it up so it sounds good. Such is a technique, most get the idea of the large movements, but it is the small adjustment and the feeling of the changes in the Uke's balance that make the technique look easy. That time from gross movements to small adjustments, can be many years and lots of hard work with a good teacher that understands those point. During a situation, there are many adjustments as some techniques will work and others will not. I am still not quite there yet. Training is a life long pursuit. There is always a lot to unpack in techniques.

@@CraigAB69 That is an excellent and accurate description of training from someone that clearly understands the intricacies of JJJ. Stay on the path my friend.

shout out to those who's legs buckled trying and the biggest guy lay heavily on top of you :)

@@swallowmedia 🤣🤣🤣 👌👏👏👏🤣....ahhh the memories 👍

That’s awesome. How often did y’all go ‘live?’

ah......the good old days!

Still have the bruises!

maybe you could have a look for a school near you. it's a pretty neat thing to learn

No time and I don't do evenings. Shame though, I love all that wrist bending.

Yes and I Also saw alot of similar from Aikido.

I saw that too. Hapkido and aikido come from Daito-ryu aikijujitsu. Which itself was but one of the many jujitsu schools in Japan. They all share similar techniques.

Notice he doesn't use gi grips to throw. Where the head goes the body goes, but be aware that these types of throws are murder on hard surfaces. I did both too, Kodokan Judo and Yoshitsune Ju Jitsu.

@@Mike_LaFontaine75 yes just noticed it ,movements are similar though.

@@KwehuMedia Yes, in JJJ you can get kuzushi by striking first, instead of sleeve grip you grip the wrist instead of collar grip you grab the head. For example for o goshi I would push uke's chin up to get kuzushi to perform the throw.

They don't grab as much or at all in the hood

@@aaroncace Oh, they’ll grab when the gap is closed. Anybody not good with those hands needs to entice the other to grab so you can, if that’s what one need to get his attack started. Or, hit first and not worry so much about what their game plan is.

@@aaroncace Hi Aaron, this is a demonstration of level 1 Goshin Jutsu techniques. It’s designed to teach beginners basic principles and safety when training. Uki does not resist so that the technique can be performed for the video. In a street situation all JJJ techniques have a plan b or c if resistance is met. Because of the tight editing you can’t always see the attacks but there are haymakers and hooks in there as well as head butt, strangle, rear choke etc. These are only singular punches at this stage because it is level 1. We deal with multiple strikes in level 2 & 3. Wrist and clothing grabs are still important to train. Grab and stab attacks where the attacker grabs you to stop you getting away so he can pull you on to the knife are quite common. Also women and children are often pulled by their arm / wrist in abduction or sexually motivated situations. This is really just a snapshot of a very expansive self defence system

an aikido dojo

Look at the banner in the back, thats the logo and name of the school on top Ryoi Shintowa-Ryu means Ryoi Shintowa style

you asked where do i go to learn this stuff --- any Hombu aikido dojo

@@mikeCavalle You guys are funny. Aikido originates from traditional japanese ju-jitsu. So, if I want to learn something, I go to the source, not the derivative. So, find a traditional Japanese Ju-Jitsu dojo.

The majority of aikido dojos teach almost exactly the same techniques seen in this video.

You should have someone try it on you. Of course you can make it hard when you’re expecting it but when you’re not trust me it works. The idea with this technique is when you have multiple attackers and your strategy is to get rid of one so you can face the other. Of course he is not out of action but you may have bought yourself a little bit of time

@@ryoishintowaryuheiho4156 the fact that you think shit like that can be used in a multiple attacker situation tells me you have 0 fight experience please stfu please real life isn't movies

No, they wouldn't have worked if he was actually fighting back. This is not practical.

@@MrDeano-eu9rg I agree but these morons won’t listen.

They work. A core part of many techniques is to use a distraction as you apply the technique. They don't work if they see it coming... I was never an expert but I can honestly say that traditional jujitsu saved my butt multiple times in my younger days.

@@DraRed73 if you're saying these standing arm locks work you are full of b.s

@@jeegunugger1871 I am not sure what you are referring to. Arm locks work. Who would say otherwise. I have seen security effectively use arm locks many times as they escort people out of a premises. Maybe you are referring to particular techniques?

Whats he difference of hakkoryu and other style?

There is some groundwork in the syllabus but not to the extent of BJJ. The sensei does train BJJ as well though.

@@swallowmedia Seems like this would be a good compliment to my Gracie Jiu-jitsu. I do recognize a few of the techniques.

Black belt here (in Japanese Jujitsu). The answer is no. I had always done well in JJJ tournaments (so my JJJ skills were competitive), But I will always remember walking into a BJJ gym as a JJJ black belt...and getting wiped by BJJ blue belts. It honestly broke my heart bc I love JJJ, but it helped my face reality and confront the many negatives of current JJJ. All of the kata done in the video is highly choreographed with a willing partner. Very few of them have real application beyond the dojo. BJJ has an overall philosophy of pragmatic improvement of the art through competition and application. JJJ however is more focused on preserving the roots of the technique and kata must be performed the way it was taught many hundreds (sometimes thousands) of years ago. Even in more “current” JJJ gyms, it’s not the same level of progressive thinking as MMA/BJJ gyms. Again I love JJJ and there are plenty of pros: arguably more well rounded sith strikes, throws, and small joint manipulation. But again most JJJ don’t focus on real world application. JJJ gets outstruck by MMA fighter and boxers, outgrappled by wrestlers and BJJ, out-thrown by judo/wrestling, etc etc. there’s a reason why there is little/no success in JJJ in UFC or IBJFF. Anyways Sorry for the rant. But I wouldn’t waste your time unless you’re interested in learning JJJ for non practical or non competition based reasons.

This is just the origin of aikido, according to this video is almost the same thing.

@@AmbicionEterna Updates are always in need. Taking the past and updating it goes a long ways to making things better. Changing times mean changing what you do.

There are basic releases in the art as well. You can start with a release but any self defense scenario has an escalation of force. I can do a basic release but if you keep coming I need a little more reason for you to stop.

How else are you supposed to assert your dominance?

you want to see the technique don't you?

Exactly

BJJ does the same thing. It’s for demonstration of a technique. And yes I mention BJJ because you seem to be one of the people who say TMA doesn’t work and think that BJJ, Muay Thai, and MMA are the best things to ever have been developed by mankind

@@adandyguyinspace5783 As someone who does practice a Jiu Jitsu offshoot that includes many techniques like this, most of this doesn't work on resisting opponents. And BJJ doesn't do demonstrations like this.

@@jansettler4828 it does do demonstrations like this. How else do you learn the technique? So everyone in your school doesn’t need to be shown how a technique is done?

@@jansettler4828 And it does work on resisting opponents if trained properly. You forget that Ju-Jutsu was made by the samurai and thus was used on the battlefield. To say it doesn’t work doesn’t make sense

@@jansettler4828 by extension you’re saying BJJ doesn’t work because it came from judo which came from ju-jutsu.

Not true.

@@dr.wesrich In street fights yes, for competitions bjj

@@dr.wesrich traditional jiu Jitsu is the best for the streets. BJJ is just a sport 😂😂

art of the samurai

They go hand in hand quite well actually

Look a lot less effective too

@@ericr2617 I’d say they both have their strong points and weaknesses. I’ve worked in the security service since I was a young man and I’ve practiced jujutsu and Kenpo since I was 5, I’ve seen situations where BJJ has worked perfectly ie single person restraint techniques etc and I’ve seen situations where it was useless ie weapons assault, mass attack etc, likewise Japanese JJ is amazing for single or multiple attack situations, it offers as good a chance of surviving weapons attacks as you can hope for and its restraints are very effective, it can fall down in areas such as not damaging your opponent to badly and can be deemed incorrect practice from a security point of view because a lot of the movements are breaks or obstruct breathing etc So both good and bad on both sides I guess it’s personal choice and horses for courses

I disagree. Doing this trainings without live resistance is of very little value. Martial arts where you're focusing on training without somebody's cooperation are much better. Doing this kind of training, despite being quite common, is waste of time in my opinion if your intentions are to do something practical.

Not a single UFC or MMA technique that works is non traditional if you would have spent more time in training than behind the keyboard you would know that.

@@cyberserk5614 Oh I spent my life training cupcake. That's why I'm not as delusional and naive as you. Try a real fight sometime, see how your hoo doo saves you.

@@johnnyk5385 I started training 1980 and there wasn't anything called "UFC" or "MMA" at that time. I have broken two opponents jaws, one guys nose, two had their wrists broken and one the thumb and I stopped counting the people I choked out with a Jujutsu technique what is called Hadaka Jime or Sankaku Jime but now has to be called "rear naked choke" and has to be performed by a tattoed, halfnaked guy with a irokese in a octagon otherwise it's not " a real fight". Yeah, right...

Holy shit first i thought you where makimg a joke tongue in cheek but you are actually serious hahahahana hey dude its easy go to an mma gym.and challenge a pro fighter to a match say yiu can grab hair poke eyes and kick balls report back tell me how it whent

@@cyberserk5614 LOL at this...you probably weren't even born in 1980 you lying simp.

It’s a demo.

@@bunnieseatliverspots I know, and that's the problem because it's not realistic ... The aggressor never but never stands and waits for you to do your defense so easily. In reality everything is much more complicated

@@marcosjuan3142 you have to cooperate when you’re teaching/learning a technique. You can’t go straight to active resistance.

@@marcosjuan3142 It’s all chess, bro. If the aggressor changes his attack the defense changes. It’s one of the hardest things to explain to people. This stuff is only linear when you’re practicing specific moves. Otherwise it’s very open ended and throws and defenses are based specifically on body movements and muscle memory. It’s a martial art which involves thousands of hours of practice. Just like a boxer punching mitts or a bag.

@@MrJohnnyNabisco boxers practice on bags and mitts to work on their technique, but they train using sparring for application. You can practice thousands of hours by yourself, create economical, and fluid, motions for each technique, but everything changes when you have an opponent in front of you who wants to win or do you harm. Not saying you shouldn't practice alone, but you shouldn't only practice alone.

Nope , these techniques rely on a non combative attacker.