55 types of Character Motivations RANKED

55 types of Character Motivations RANKED | 2 To Ramble #67

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Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
2:54 - Freedom
6:06 - Jealousy
8:25 - Justice
10:56 - For glory
12:45 - The Great Reset
15:03 - Seeking happiness/purpose
15:50 - Hidden Agenda
17:10 - Bound by honor
18:40 - Hurt in Past
22:12 - I Just Want to be Normal
24:44 - Indebted
27:53 - Revenge
30:25 - For Love
32:02 - Loyalty
34:26 - There's No Place Like Home
35:44 - Thrillseeker
37:50 - Greed
39:12 - Patriotism
41:16 - Seeking Power
42:25 - After this...I'm Retiring
45:15 - Righting a Wrong
46:17 - Scientific Curiosity
47:26 - Seeking a Purpose
47:37 - Survivor's Guilt
48:23 - Seeking Attention
49:30 - Protect Those I Love
51:31 - Inspirational Insult
52:59 - Living out Childhood Dream
54:59 - Lust
56:26 - Everyone's Babysitter
57:15 - Love Interest
57:55 - Freudian Excuse
59:10 - A Particular Collector
59:55 - No Motive. Psychopath
1:00:46 - The Hedonist
1:03:01 - Seeking Friendship
1:03:26 - Lazy/Lacks Motivation
1:07:41 - Motive Decay
1:09:38 - Rage. Not Revenge. Rage.
1:10:41 - Overcoming Addiction
1:14:14 - Just Following Orders
1:15:23 - Revolution
1:18:21 - Regret
1:23:42 - Seeking Approval
1:26:33 - Pure Amusement
1:27:45 - Pure Fear
1:29:55 - The Greater Good
1:33:51 - Basic Needs
1:35:28 - I'm Bored
1:36:53 - I Want to be Beautiful
1:39:01 - Ride or Die Friend
1:39:43 - It's Their Destiny
1:40:45 - Change the Community for the Better
1:42:45 - Dream Job
1:43:03 - Making Parents Proud
1:43:32 - Results
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@quasibrodo923 6 ай бұрын

"My Mom wouldn't let me have Lunchables" has major Dr Doofenshmirtz vibes.

@2ToRamble 6 ай бұрын

😂

@smuu1996 Жыл бұрын

"Childhood Dream" is just every single One Piece character pretty much lol

@valliyarnl 6 ай бұрын

For the “after this I’m retiring” trope, The Heroes by Joe Abercrombie does it well

@samm8190 Жыл бұрын

If I wasn’t already a Patron I would’ve become one just for that magnificent Les Miserables opening.

@2ToRamble Жыл бұрын

DO YOU HEAR THE PEOPLE SING 🎶

@Road_to_redbull Жыл бұрын

"I'm bored" one punch man. Does this SO well

@caewing85 Жыл бұрын

Teft is a great example of addiction that works well as a motivation.

@DarrenHuckey Жыл бұрын

For sure

@rosemarytulip355 Жыл бұрын

*The Greater Good*- Hot Fuzz loved that plot twist

@SimplementInefable 7 ай бұрын

"Bound by honor" is basically Ned Stark at the core and also Rob Stark at a great extent, and their character arc are sooo good

@ryanbuckley8243 Жыл бұрын

"the greater good! The greater good! -hot fuzz??? I absolutely love that movie

@2ToRamble Жыл бұрын

🙌

@connorjames8807 Жыл бұрын

I love these long form tier ranking videos!! I could watch a million of them by you guys!!

@curtis25920 Жыл бұрын

Richard's battlefield alter ego is "The Baldy Nine".

@symoxn7989 Жыл бұрын

Immediately think of the The Bloody Nine with that intro 💪

@samm8190 Жыл бұрын

The Bloody Nine sings Les Mis songs???

@STiROCKET06 Жыл бұрын

You two remind me of my favorite friendships in novels. Jean and Locke from the Gentleman Bastards Sequence; and Aren and Cade from The Darkwater Legacy. Such great chemistry.

@2ToRamble Жыл бұрын

Damn thank you!

@orangehokage7 Жыл бұрын

I always find the "After this, i'm retiring" trope to be kind of compelling when used in the right situation. It instantly brings some tension to a situation if one of your favourite characters's is about to retire. The author knows the trope, the audience knows the trope; suddenly your favourite character is at risk of dying and you don't know if the author is playing with your expectations.

@2ToRamble Жыл бұрын

Oo Thats a good pooint

@AugustDelforge 6 ай бұрын

Curnden Craw from Joe Abercrombie’s ‘The Hero’s’ is the greatest example of the “after this, I’m retiring” I can think of. Essentially because of how his retirement turns out 😂

@ryanratchford2530 Жыл бұрын

Hot Fuzz: THE GREATER GOOD

@2ToRamble Жыл бұрын

THATS RIGHT! I (austin) totally forgot and Ive seen the movie too. Damniiiiit

@frankie3010 6 ай бұрын

Greater Good is from Hot Fuzz, a British buddy cop comedy from Edgar Wright.

@Luna_Insidiosa Жыл бұрын

So I did the math, the odds of getting 6 ties in a row in rock paper scissors is 0.14% of happening or in fractions a 7/5000 chance.

@brickbroken 23 күн бұрын

The count of Monte Cristo is the ultimate revenge trope

@Corlwow 10 ай бұрын

“After this I’m retiring” is done well in the first law: the heroes with Curnden Craw.

@renownedhades2703 7 ай бұрын

Yes! Especially because of how they ended it.

@bridgetgaudin7841 7 ай бұрын

When I think of Justice as a character motivation, I think of Inspector Javert from Les Mis. I think it’s most interesting when the justice motive deals with the character’s definition of justice and how it plays with their view of morality.

@JonArrynGarza 4 ай бұрын

1:32:56 “for the greater good” works as an underlying motivation, and I feel I’ve accomplished that with a character I’ve written, but an example could be Zod in Man of Steel.

@philsajor6724 16 күн бұрын

Love the Hot Fuzz reference!! The greater goooood lmao 😂

@battlestarkoala Жыл бұрын

I think Lightsong is a hedonist. I think it's always enjoyable when the selfish hedonist does something noble / unselfish

@2ToRamble Жыл бұрын

Ooo I see, and especially because he recognizes his hedonism. Great point

@iamtheecho 11 ай бұрын

Love it, love these ranking videos.

@2ToRamble 11 ай бұрын

More to come!

@aaronwatts72 8 ай бұрын

Maquin from Faith and fallen series is one of my current favorite character development characters. Justice, Freedom, For glory and a few other all melting together and such a poetic ending to his storyline.

@edward041072 Жыл бұрын

I like Hyperion for the “Great Reset” idea. It is also my favorite book though, so I may be biased

@elaineirving77 Жыл бұрын

Hot Fuzz! It’s a must that you have to repeat the phrase “the greater good “ every time you hear it.

@summeroftheseasons1568 11 ай бұрын

New sub!🙋🏻‍♀️ came here for red rising review, watched both ranking vids now in the past 24 hrs and what I have learned is this: I obviously must read Wheel of Time….. and it better change my life 😂

@2ToRamble 11 ай бұрын

😂 thanks for watching the chaos

@davids128 Жыл бұрын

Random recommendations BUT seeing as Austin is obsessed with red rising. I say you need to pick up the will of the many. It’s like red rising meets kingkiller pure Awesomeness🤩

@mintk4147 Жыл бұрын

Books and character motivations aside, Austin kinda looks like Freddie Highmore from the side when he smiles. Sometimes it catches me by surprise, in a nice way. :)

@2ToRamble Жыл бұрын

I’ve only seen clips from the Good Doctor but that man knows how to ACT. Freddie and I have that in common because I act like Richard’s my friend every episode 🙌

@renownedhades2703 7 ай бұрын

Putting revolution that low hurts. Lots of my favorite stories have revolution as a compelling motivation such as Red Rising and Mistborn.

@2ToRamble 7 ай бұрын

Oo fair point, this was before I (austin) read Red Rising

@katka8490 11 ай бұрын

To go into detail would be to give spoilers since this is Shadowbringers and Endwalker but Emet-Selch's story kind of falls under the great reset trope....though its stretching it just a bit.

@MythicJedi Жыл бұрын

The first 2 John Wick movies do an amazing job with character motivation for John: 1 - Revenge, 2 - Indebted. I think they did such a great job at making natural character motivation for the sequel movie based on the original character motivation.

@thekylederek Жыл бұрын

I think the Great Reset is an example of CHARACTER - it shows how deranged a character's psychology is; it's not predicated on reason, but is ultimately the impulse to punish dressed up as salvation, which is what makes it at once so dangerous (good intentions) and so repulsive (sadistic). I'd put it at least in A: I just don't know if there's a more nefarious impetus for evil...an outright sadist enjoys inflicting pain, but at least he makes it clear. The Great Resetter though...

@2ToRamble Жыл бұрын

This is no fair. I read this in your narration voice snd it made your argument more compelling 😂

@thekylederek Жыл бұрын

@@2ToRamble Whatever it takes to WIN!

@Doyle_ Жыл бұрын

Austin have you finished Golden Son yet??

@2ToRamble Жыл бұрын

Yes. Review coming. Much. Much. Much to say !

@quasibrodo923 6 ай бұрын

I know one example doesn't make a motivation......but Judge Frollo from Hunchback. Lust was a very compelling motivation.

@aaronwatts72 8 ай бұрын

Maquin faith and the falled has a good retirement goal

@DarrenHuckey Жыл бұрын

Last comment (😂) - I think your Making Parents Proud might be better categorized as Approval of Others, broadening it in scope a bit. Great job, guys! Thoroughly enjoyed it!

@2ToRamble Жыл бұрын

Glad ya loved it - thanks for all the comments and watching

@GideonsRecruit 10 ай бұрын

The Riyria Revelations uses the "After this, I'm retiring" motivation a few times with the main characters.

@taharad1766 9 ай бұрын

1:09:53 OMG, True !!

@DarrenHuckey Жыл бұрын

1:04:44 - sounds like Richard is related to Monk 😂

@FalsePositiveMinecraft 7 ай бұрын

I know you guys joke a lot about the length of the podcasts and you guys have lives, but honestly the long form discussion is what I come for. Honestly it could have been 100 motivations instead of 55 and I still would watch, the more the better. EDIT: I don't know the movie reference

@2ToRamble 7 ай бұрын

Ahh thank you very much - we will keep the long form coming!

@DarrenHuckey Жыл бұрын

Just Want to be Normal - I think Matt from WOT is a good example of this.

@PistachioGold 3 ай бұрын

1:39:00 - 1:39:16 this entire sequence 😂😂😂😂😂 1:39:27 LOL BABES I honestly would love to do my tier rankings separately as I watch, but booktube is mainly my work background watch 😂😂 1:41:32 legends and lattes ❤ 1:41:49 LEGENDS AND LATTES RICHARD 😂😂😂😂

@milosserbinator4369 10 ай бұрын

something that makes honor a great trope is other characters taking advantage of a characters honors and putting them in a situation where they can't say no.

@2ToRamble 10 ай бұрын

Definitely true!

@theblackberseker1978 Жыл бұрын

I kinda like the greater good. When a villain truly believes what they are doing is necessary and they have some validity to their claim. Not Thanos. Thanos had unlimited power and chose the dumbest option. I’ve read the comments so I know Austin has finished Golden Son. I love Darrow and Nero’s conversation at the end of the book where he’s realising Nero truly believes for man to go on the Hierarchy is crucial. He believe oppressing the low colours is the only way Society can keep surviving

@2ToRamble Жыл бұрын

Fair point!

@Reese_Reviews Жыл бұрын

“Protagonist isn’t actually dead” is one you could do also. Rings of power for me, especially if there’s a mcguffin to bring them back to life.

@2ToRamble Жыл бұрын

Ahh yep - thats one we missed!

@amousetheatre Ай бұрын

Community for the better could be Ekko from Arcane!

@jonsadenwasser4246 Жыл бұрын

Yes I’m pretty sure that was Charlie from lost with the drug addiction. It was a pretty small part of the plot but I think a good example nontheless

@Valkrill 11 ай бұрын

For greed I immediately thought of Smaug from The Hobbit.

@samm8190 Жыл бұрын

Did Richard just say “the ‘a’ is too big”??????? 59:21 😂😂😂😂😂

@2ToRamble Жыл бұрын

Yes. He’s a disorganized man that loves organization lol

@Erisplay 7 ай бұрын

A cornetto for the greater good!

@nicadamian5246 Жыл бұрын

I think the lazy and lacks motivation could be just a smudge higher for the plots where the character is just very overpowered, they mastered everything there is to master, nothing challemges him/her anymore... they won at life but they still have to live, a fun example of that is one punch man when in the first few episodes we just see him living the most normal and boring life just not motivated to do anything but he still has to get up and fight the big bad of the week just because no one else can

@DarrenHuckey Жыл бұрын

1:27:07 - Joker

@rjmoore44 Жыл бұрын

S tier intro 🤣

@katka8490 11 ай бұрын

tbf: history nerd here and native RIer (Aquidneck Island was lost to the British for three years; the American military fled and left the island for the taking) It was not a single tax. It was a series of "Here's a new tax." Oh, we're repealing this tax but here's another one. (and the intolerable acts as well went far beyond taxes. Quartering was not a "Take in this redcoat to live with you, please" People could be kicked out of their homes to quarter soldiers. Also: Lexington was fought and done in about 15 minutes.

@Philchee_McFly 8 ай бұрын

Following orders is a super shitty version of loyalty and patriotism, I feel

@samuelleask1132 7 ай бұрын

Richard is so done in this episode lol

@quasibrodo923 6 ай бұрын

Freedom deserves an A for "A-MURICA"

@SteD1892 Жыл бұрын

Great video and even better list the only thing I would change is "righting a wrong" from A to S because redemption arcs are so good 👍 I thought ZSJL was fantastic I just think Zack Snyder shouldn't be left unsupervised when using slow motion 😂🤦

@2ToRamble Жыл бұрын

😂😂 thank you

@estherbutton6399 7 ай бұрын

the movie reference was hot fuzz right?

@whyyguy8116 Жыл бұрын

This episode really Toddered my Teetter

@2ToRamble Жыл бұрын

Goated Comment

@DarrenHuckey Жыл бұрын

Living out Childhood Dreams - What about Field of Dreams or movies like that?

@2ToRamble Жыл бұрын

Definitely yes yes

@brandonreilly6600 Жыл бұрын

If you want a thrillseeker done better than any in all of fantasy... Logen Ninefingers. One of the best characters ever written.

@naturalfluency2315 Жыл бұрын

Have you guys read The fall of Hyperion? And would you recommend it after reading the first?

@2ToRamble Жыл бұрын

Richard here. I liked the second book, but I loved the first more. For me, I was satisfied with the end of the first. If you were not, then you should read the second.

@2ToRamble Жыл бұрын

Let us know what you think if you read it.

@joeljimenez4159 Жыл бұрын

What about Szeth from The Way of Kings for “Just following Orders” 🤷🏻‍♂️?

@2ToRamble Жыл бұрын

Good pick!

@jonsadenwasser4246 Жыл бұрын

Richie used the Just Us pun from Avatar. Didn’t give it it’s proper citation! Very disappointed

@colinlapierre-fecteau316 Жыл бұрын

Where would you put "Wanderlust" in there?

@2ToRamble Жыл бұрын

Interesting one - I (austin) might put it somewhere below average. I find the desire to not travel but then suddenly being forced your hand to go on this grand adventure (Bilbo Baggins, WOT, etc) is a bit more compelling

@colinlapierre-fecteau316 Жыл бұрын

@@2ToRamble Interesting! I'd have put it just above average, as i find the ingenuity of it compelling. The idea that you just HAVE to see the world always felt like a strong motivation to me, and it opens up the possibility of a more contemplative adventure, rather than action-seeking.

@keeganohara1340 Жыл бұрын

Have you guys given Malazan a shot?

@2ToRamble Жыл бұрын

Not yet - we’re doing a Wheel of Time readthrough first. But definitely need to give Malazan a read

@jariel2568 Жыл бұрын

Please read and review the will of the many by James Islington, I think you'll have a lot of opinions

@2ToRamble Жыл бұрын

I'm going to pick this book up this week

@jariel2568 Жыл бұрын

@@2ToRamble I finished it in two days and I loved it

@Valkrill 11 ай бұрын

You guys are both my names 😅 in order of presentation, but with an s.

@quasibrodo923 6 ай бұрын

I think the perceived quality of Thanos' motivation comes down to suspension of disbelief. If you can suspend your disbelief about the practicality of Thanos' solution, then I think the motivation works. The emotional beats work for Thanos IMO. But if you can't suspend your disbelief about how collossally dumb the solution is, it's hard to connect cause then Thanos just seems like a huge dummy dingus. I don't think there's a RIGHT answer about whether you should or shouldn't suspend your disbelief. Personally I actually can suspend my disbelief with Thanos, but I feel about Coco how many people feel about Thanos. I can't suspend my disbelief that mutliple generations of a family are traumatized by music of all things, and therefore the family's motivation, miguel's conflict with the family and their motivation, and consequently the movie as a whole, doesn't work for me at all. Why can I suspend my disbelief with Thanos but not Miguel's family?????? I have no idea.

@matthewm.7623 3 ай бұрын

Strong disagree with just following orders. I think it is best not when it is the fodder but the captains or squad leaders who not only are given orders but then have to give them to others. The best is like the best of patriotism and even motivation decay where they have to grapple with the fact that the orders they are being given no longer align with the reason of why they are fighting and they begin to see how their orders are impacting the other side as well as their own troops. My most recent favorite is Father Captain de Soya from Endymion who does it so well of being a man of obedience but struggles with the fact that the orders he is being given seems so contrary to his faith and what he believes the church and its army to be fighting for

@DarrenHuckey Жыл бұрын

Past Hurts - so you guys don’t think this is a good motivator for Magneto?