Glad you enjoyed it! Greg is one of my favorite people in the world.

Glad you liked it!

Well Said!

Thanks! Glad you liked it.

There's no rule that says you have to make a bet ...

Now you can’t un-know it, right?

@@ProCraps impossible to un-know , heading to Vegas Monday can’t wait use this to build my bankroll!

Greg is the man!

Let's just say that Greg is in full agreement on the decision.

@@ProCraps He must work for a big casino! They don't want to lose their money by having us use his strategies!!

He's the best.

Boom.

There is a very very tiny advantage of the DP versus the Pass. Something like 1.36% versus 1.41% The odds on both sides lower the *total* house edge as a *percentage of your bet* but they increase overall variance.

The biggest reason for max bets is to stop negative progressions. Period. They are the only guaranteed way to win 100% of the time. But the bet ceiling prevents you from ever locking it in. So those players rely on timing and a bit of luck to not get crushed. I’ve seen it happen live too many timeS

The simple answer is on the 555 Don't, bring enough for 20 shooters. So at the $25 + $30 level, that'll be $1100. If you swing that down and go with $10 and $12 odds, you can do it for $500, just adjust your expectations. The other 2 strategies, you'd want to have in your pocket. I would bring another $200 to $400 and have that off to the side, so that if you decided to play one shooter using one of the Andre methods, you have that bullet, but it's not part of your grind.

@@ProCraps Thanks John, 20 shooters, $55 per shooter, $1,100 bankroll. Just took an early lunch break and rolled it out this way which raised a couple of questions that may just be personal preference. When a shooter hits a point and you lose the $55, do you stop betting on that shooter as you lost the money earmarked for that shooter and let him come out and keep rolling until he passes the dice and start over on a new shooter? I guess you could view the comeout after a point made as a new shooter and start over if you wanted to. I found in this rollout that it made sense not to come back up on shooters that made a point as a few times they continued on and made multiple points. When a 7 rolled on the comeout, I continued with the $30 earmarked for the odds on the don't pass and played it out with no odds. Two comeout 7s in a row and just waited for the next shooter. After 20 shooters on this particular rollout, up $260.

Some casinos offer 10x or higher odds, so you do have to know what those limits are when you're calculating strategy plays like this.

Greg loves his boss!

Not sure if you know the history, but 555 craps was a long running channel, highly respected. He ended up having to close it down, and this episode was an interview/hand-off of his ways of thinking and playing.

That's true, very true. But for every time I've pulled $2,000 off a table with place bets, I've lost $300 10 times trying to get there. Its the nature of right side play. Highly volatile. Huge wins separated by many losses. The dark side is boring and stable. keyword being stable.

@@ProCraps thanks for sharing, we been playing the dont lately and just been doing $15 and never lay the odds. but cant seem to get past $100-125.00 ... should we start playing the odds? and only do $10? seems like the fn come out kills us lol. TIA

I am not at all opposed to moving my lays around. If I'm conditioned to use a lay bet and the 4's and 10's are popping, I will fearlessly go to the 5 and 9

Win goal would be $250, and I'm a stop loss zero guy ... I plan to use my whole bankroll to get to goal. Now, if go down by 40% or so, I may pause or switch tables, but that's how I do it.

Not all bosses are employers. This is the right call for Greg, for sure.

@@ProCraps Even worse!!

This really is BS How bad could a simple craps channel be??? 🤦‍♂️

Tell that to Pete Rose. He is free to do whatever he wants and employers are also free to decide if your activities are a risk or conflict ro your job.

not saying i like greg's boss, but he is free to find a new job/boss who tolerates gaming videos or even become his own boss.

hahah. The don't is boring but it works. I swear, when I'm at the table just playing a don't progression the dealers pay me on every shooter and I get that little wink from them as they swipe the rest of the chips away and may me my rent.

@@ProCraps hate the7 11 11 7 sequence had those sunday am ouch.... 555 underplays those a little bit , i have to say😍😍😍😍😍😍 i am ddp1

It's tough at 2x odds to really get the huge home runs, but every odds bet you place lowers the house edge enough to fight for it.

20x your anticipated action, so 20 * 11 or $220 ... probably $250 is a nice round number.

I'll pass this along!

555 is the best, right? We'll get Charlie back on. He's a great friend and will absolutely come back and do the show!

I think he was doing that for ease of dealing. Depends on the casino when they take the vig. One of my locals takes it on the win, and another takes it up front.

Ok cool

You got that right! Good to see you again.

@@ProCraps like the ''classics''fewqualify....this is one ..big fan triple 5🙂🙂🙂

No idea?

@@ProCraps Thank you. Where does Greg stand these days? Still straight 5 to 6 odds?

@@baugh3162 For sure ... he'll never change off of his base play. He does some other things for fun, but that's the core.

@@CasinoGamingTV TY again

Absolutely!

He does.

The general rules are these: The lay odds must win table minimum. 4 and 10 need to be "even" dollar amounts (they pay 1:2) 5 and 9 need to be in amounts divisible by 3 (they pay 2:3) 6 and 8 need to be in amounts divisible by 6 (they pay 5:6) So, for a $10 table, here's your minimums: 4 and 10: $20 (to win $10) 5 and 9: $15 (to win $10) 6 and 8: $12 (to win $10) For a $15 table, here's your minimums: 4 and 10: $30 (to win $15) 5 and 9: $24 (to win $16) 6 and 8: $18 (to win $15) A good rule of thumb, if your bankroll allows it, is that increments of $30 always works for all of them: $30 lay 4/10 wins $15 $30 lay 5/9 wins $20 $30 lay 6/8 wins $25

Mathematically lay on the 5 or 9 is a far superior lay than the 4 or 10 because of the payoff. Lay of the 6 or 8 is really only slightly worse than the 5 or 9 because the pay off is so good. You should almost always lay odds with your flat bet on the 6 or 8 because the reward is always 83.3333% of your lay bet. The reward on the lay portion of the 5 or 9 is always 66.6666%, of everyone of those 5's or 9's you have a 64.2857% chance of winning it! Which is far better than a coin flip! You will win 58.0645% on every 6 or 8 don't pass or don't bets. on the 4 or 10, you should win 69.2307% 18 of every 28 times either one of those is the point.(NEARLY 7 OF EVERY 10 times it's a point!} ( in other words for every 26 times the 4 is the point, he will repeat it 50% or 8 times, miss it 50% or 8 times and miss it 100% 10 times, therefore he will miss it 18 times of 26 occurances) These calculations are based on the fact that you have ***2 dice with 3 axis EACH DIE*** and nothing more, forget about that bell shaped combination chart. There are only SIX sets dice can be together prior to the throw. There are 576 possible tops on anyone throw( in their entirety) the bell shaped combo charts mention nothing of the relation of one die to another die. Even more confusing than all of that is the fact that any number on top that shows can show: 16 DIFFERENT ways cause a cube has 4 sides therefore 4 TIMES 4 equals 16 !!!! Weirder than all that is that M.I.T. did major studies of dice and all the calculations on this. The key for wrong bettors is RISK -Vs- REWARD. Everyday or every night the dice can do amazing things, the other key is surviving bad streaks or the CHOP. The law of large numbers is extremely powerful in craps and things can change on a dime or not.@@ProCraps​

In the Andre, you take the back wall lay down after the point is set. In filming we'll often leave them up there for expedience.

Here's one where I go into it in pretty good detail -- kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iN-Aesx7q5apcXU.html Basically, you always have to win table minimum, so at a $15 table, you need to lay enough to win $15 For the 4 and 10, that means laying $30 in odds, because the 4 and 10 pay you 1:2 For the 5 and 9, you need to lay $24 to win $16 because they pay you 2:3 For the 6 and 8 ... you can lay $18 to win $15 because the lay bet on those numbers pays 5:6 The easiest thing though, is to always lay in multiples of $30 which always works easy -- 4/10 pay $15, 5/9 pay $20 and 6/8 pay $25 for that $30 lay

@@ProCraps thanks for the reply cant wait to go and play best of luck

It's not that at all ... Greg'll tell you that the decision although painful, was mutual.

Right?

There's no reason to. In fact, there are those that actually go in for max odds on the 6 and 8 and lesser odds on the 4/10. The 7 is still the biggest dog out there, no matter what the point is. If I gave you $25 and said you could make 1 bet on any number and it'll sit there until it wins or loses, what would you choose? Now, on a flat bet, the 7 vs the 6 or 8 isn't as great as a flat bet on the 7 vs a 4 or a 10. But when you bring odds into it, it's more advantageous to lay odds on the 6 and 8 than the 4 and 10.

@@ProCraps I was just giving you a hard time about your 6 / 7 / 8 strategy, sorry ! I apologize for my dry humor.

@@jimklemens5018 Oh! Hhahahah. That's actually pretty funny now that I hear it in context.

Yup, it's a big loss for us, but he'll still get his messages out, I'm sure.

Greg's a pretty private guy, but he'll tell you that this is as much his choice as it was related to his work.

I normally do that (A LOT) in my strategy videos. This one was more of an interview that I did with Greg, in his style, and then re-uploaded it here in this format. I was planning to break these all down individually as separate strategy videos with a better explanation and demo ahead of the roll out.

This was done about a year or more ago. Greg from 555 craps had a great channel and was retiring. He's a great friend of mine, so the point of this video was really his final interview and him saying goodbye before we did any strategy stuff. That's really what I wanted to focus on. But then we got into some strategies and I love picking his brain on them.

This was only a little bit about the strategy. More of a venue for my friend Greg to say goodbye to his KZfaq channel and subscribers. Final interview

It goes a little bit deeper than that ... he's happy to opt out.

@@ProCraps You've mentioned that Gregg is happy with the decision several times to posters. I guess if my boss said dump the site or dump the job...uh, yeh, I'm on board with dumping the site. I always worked for people that paid me to perform and didn't get into my off/private time. But, that's me... Always enjoyed the strategies and roll outs Gregg gave us!

Could be just going too fast.

I think he's taking out the $30 loss on the number that hit, but forgetting to also pay the vig. Or perhaps he just skipped the vig for simplicity.

Like I was telling someone else. Greg's a pretty private guy, but he's totally on board here. Some topics just aren't a great fit for the larger plan, you know?

Not all lines of work are compatible with having a publicly facing gambling channel. I have a lot of respect for him for making the choice. Miss him terribly of course.

LOL, Greg and I are longtime friends and this was his exodus video from KZfaq. Hopefully aside from the camaraderie, you got something out of it.

It's Greg's farewell to KZfaq interview, intertwined with his craps thoughts ... not a normal "strategy" video like you're probably used to.

Greg and I are very old friends, so that conversation probably started off a bit like we figured everyone knew what we were saying, because we talk like that almost daily.

LOL. Do you feel better now?

Not surprising. If you don’t know Greg you may not get a lot out of this. He had a channel for a long time and was quit popular. Took it down right after we shot this a year ago. Lot of people know and love him so it made more sense last year.

Patience my friend. This was a live interview, and Greg's retirement from KZfaq. I put links in the description to help you skip to the good parts, too.