5600X vs 5800X3D - Was Upgrading Worth It?

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I finally upgraded my 5600X to a 5800X3D, but was the upgrade worth it?
We go through a number of games at 1080p and 1440p and see where having a faster CPU can pay dividends, and where you’re still GPU limited.
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00:00 - Introduction
00:39 - CoD Warzone III
03:01 - Diablo IV
03:43 - Cyberpunk
05:01 - Halo Infinite
05:37 - Microsoft Flight Simulator
06:48 - Conclusion
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@justinpatterson5291 3 ай бұрын

I went from a 2600X to the 5800X3D. Massive improvements on both average frame rate and 1% lows. Then I swapped out the 2060 for a 7900 XT and got blown away- again.

@jarkkoseppanen899 3 ай бұрын

I went from 2700x and r9 390x to 5800x3d and 7900xt, nice upgrade ❤

@pierrebroccoli.9396 3 ай бұрын

@@jarkkoseppanen899 Yeah, went from a 3900X to a 5800X3D with the 7900XT. Not a huge difference in Il2 VR max frames but flying over Normandy Beaches, I have the fps hold steady where with the 3900X they would halve. Running a Pimax 8K-X headset through SteamVR with 1 in Pitool Wide FOV and 100% SteamVR SS. Early days and undervolted at -25 all cores.

@OrElseYouWillDie100 3 ай бұрын

I went from a gtx 660m to a 6750xt go figure, cpu changed from 3210m to 5600x for tarkov is very cpu dependant so I'll get a 5800x3d soon enough

@daviddavies3637 3 ай бұрын

After seeing some benchmarks today, thinking of going from a 2600 to a 5800X3D. Realised not long after I bought it that my 6800 XT was going to waste with this CPU.

@kevin.malone 2 ай бұрын

@@daviddavies3637 I'm going from a 2600 too and it's a bottleneck even with a 1660s. Can't wait to try out the 5800x3d once it gets here and see how much smoother things are.

@fabsenbmx 3 ай бұрын

I upgraded from 5700x to 5800x3d. In my usecase it was 100% worth it. I play escape from Tarkov which is a very poorly optimized game. You are almost always in cpu bottleneck. So the upgrade not only improved 1% lows but also average fps significantly

@davidnott_ 3 ай бұрын

Awesome! Similar story to me with flight sim

@kognak6640 3 ай бұрын

This applies almost any Unity-based game, not just Tarkov. I have a few of them and 5800X3D has been much better than tuned 5800X. Too bad reviewers always focus on well-polished highly GPU bound AAA-games.

@stangamer1151 3 ай бұрын

The big problem for 5800X3D at it's current price is much cheaper 7500f. This CPU, when tuned, usually matches and sometimes even outperforms 5800X3D. This makes the latter quite a bad value option. I think that is the main reason why 5700X3D was released. Though it is a bit too expensive as well. Hopefully it will drift to $220 soon. Then it would be a decent upgrade option for any AM4 owner.

@reizanaliu 3 ай бұрын

@@stangamer1151 stop spreading bullshit.

@stangamer1151 3 ай бұрын

@@reizanaliu Stop acting like a kid.

@lvmarv1 3 ай бұрын

I have a 5800x3D with a 7900XTX. Decided to skip the Ryzen 7000 series and will upgrade when the next gen comes out.

@davidnott_ 3 ай бұрын

Yep, thinking the same myself. It’ll be a while before the X3Ds so I’ll sit tight for now I think

@kurtmichiels6593 3 ай бұрын

Just upgraded my 5600 and rx6600 to an 5800x3d and rx7800xt. Older parts are going to daughter for her first PC. Preferred to stay on the same platform as her.

@50H3i1 3 ай бұрын

Unlike this guy you made the better choice on the new gpu

@KristjanThomasHaaristo 3 ай бұрын

still with 5800x myself and 7900XTX, the cpu is basically useless to upgrade unless you're looking for that potential 10-15% (depends) slight bottleneck that might occasionally crop up in rare cases, and for latest stuff i utilize FSR 3 + Frame Gen mods anyways so it's not like it matters at all at that point next gen ryzens then i might even update to DDR5 eventually

@lvmarv1 3 ай бұрын

@@50H3i1Who?

@maxthemillion2924 3 ай бұрын

I also did the swap from the 5600X to the 5800X3D like nearly a year ago. The improvement in my mainly played game DayZ at this time was immense. Playing on 1440p 240hz and the 5600X wasn't capable of delivering any fps more than 150fps. This swap brought me a fps boost of like 100-130fps depending on the situation, what is pretty damn crazy. It also depends alot on what kind of game you are playing. In the case of a very cpu intense title like DayZ its a night/day difference between this two ones.

@colbyboucher6391 Ай бұрын

Yep, that's what's being missed here, if you're just trying to shove as many frames though as physically possible this thing is a godsend.

@amy-295 Ай бұрын

This cpu is really good for a game with cpu boundary

@vannatter09 25 күн бұрын

Night n day on paper but can you tell with with naked eye and feel for performance

@RohanSanjith 3 ай бұрын

I need a microscope to see those frame time bar.

$@fracturedlife1393$

@fracturedlife1393 3 ай бұрын

Zoom from full screen? Works on android anyways, pretty useful

@RohanSanjith Ай бұрын

@@fracturedlife1393 No it's not

@JK-xo9wm Ай бұрын

@@RohanSanjithyes it is

@RohanSanjith Ай бұрын

@@JK-xo9wm No it's not

@ManuFortis 3 ай бұрын

Hey, I don't wanna nit pick, but I have the same CPU, and I am wondering if you have tried any of the optimizations available for it, which help a lot with keeping those faster clock speeds needed to pull ahead of some of the competition. I've tried it stock and with optimizations, and I gotta say; a lot of room to play with after the CPU has been PBO tuned.

@saiyajinelitehoss 3 ай бұрын

Cool video. Thanks for making it. It's nice to have narration with benchmark comparisons and such, especially with explanation! I recently upgraded to a 5700x from my 6700k & kept my ram, the same as yours speed-wise 32GB DDR4 CL16, && kept the same GPU GTX 1080 && PSU Seasonic 660W 80+ plat. just didn't wanna have to buy new ram really, lol. I upgraded from 1x16GB stick to 32GB dual channel (waited like a year to buy the 2nd stick)

@user-lp5wb2rb3v 3 ай бұрын

you should upgrade the ram really

@saiyajinelitehoss 3 ай бұрын

@user-lp5wb2rb3v My guess, with my system pushing 1080p60 is that upgrading the ram makes 0 sense. Exactly why I went 5700x vs 5800X3D.

@notluminaire 3 ай бұрын

@@user-lp5wb2rb3v no, he shouldn't, the fuck?

@ScavengerFX 3 ай бұрын

Great video. Thanks for the information!

@Barkebain 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for this info! I currently have a 5600x in a similar system - hoping to make the upgrade jump to AM5 with Zen5 later this year.

@carrickdubya4765 25 күн бұрын

RYzen 9000 coming out by then so it should be interesting. LOL bc I have Ryzen 1600 (non-X)

@weirdodude1173 3 ай бұрын

I did this same upgrade upgrade awhile back, and I am happy with it after I also upgraded my CPU cooler. I got a decent Thermalright pretty cheap (Peerless Assassin, but other newer ones like Phantom Spirit are a little better). There is a large temperature difference between these chips, but it can be handled by a dual tower cooler. Thumbs up!

@atbgaming8342 3 ай бұрын

Subscribed! I have the same rig, and was debating a 5800x3d upgrade. I knew I had a CPU bottleneck, but didn't realize that the 3070 would end up as the bottleneck so quickly. It really comes down to performance vs $ at that point, and, for the price, I think I'll wait until I can upgrade the GPU as well. Great vid!

@CptJakeSpearow 3 ай бұрын

A genuine question I've needed answered. Thanks a ton!

@davidnott_ 3 ай бұрын

Happy to help!

@TBD_Teebs 3 ай бұрын

Great video, well shot/presented with useful info! I have watched all the previous big YT channels reviews on the 5800X3D when it first came out, but am always happy to watch other videos from smaller channels, and yours popped up on my home page. My jump was more significant than your 5600X, as I upgraded from a 3700X to the 5800X3D in early 2023 when they were at their cheapest, and it was a great boost all round, especially for sim racing (I saw an average increase of 20% in FPS and much better 1% lows). It's also provided a smoother experience in VR. I then upgraded my 2070S to a 7900XTX mid 2023, and I'm set for the next 3 years at least, hopefully longer. I suspect you'll be the same. The 5800X3D isn't quite as good value now, but it still saves you spending $$$ on a full platform upgrade, so it's still worth it given how rock solid AM4 is.

@davidnott_ 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the kind words, glad you enjoyed it. I think you’re right. The 5800X3D should keep me covered for a good long time now - especially now my 4080 Super has arrived. Video soon!

@Nawi2020 3 ай бұрын

In 4K with rtx 4070s, could i built with ryzen 7 5700X ? I think 7800X3D just better 0-1 % in 4 K than 5800X3D

@Leerzej90 3 ай бұрын

just go with 7800x3d it's just better.

@stangamer1151 3 ай бұрын

5800X3D does not really save you anything, since B650 and DDR5 became pretty cheap and $180 7500f was released. Upgrading to 5800X3D might even be more expensive than switching to AM5, depending on a certain region/offering.

@davidnott_ 3 ай бұрын

@@Leerzej90 I don’t doubt it better but in terms in terms of ratios I had a hard time going for it as the outlay would be over twice that of a 5800X3D that I could just slot into my AM4 platform. Maybe I’ll jump in on zen 5 when the X3Ds come out

@oddpenguin8996 3 ай бұрын

How do I measure CPU/GPU frame times? I've been searching info online but can't find much information as to how to actually do it. I wanna figure out if I should upgrade my CPU or my GPU first.

@MrCthur 3 ай бұрын

I did a similar upgrade path. 5600x/3070 and then decided to try the 5800x3d. Left me second guessing due to temps, but once undervolted, it really smoothed things out a lot. Found myself into a 4080 6mo later (also undervolted). Let's me vsync most things 164Hz, and I call it a day.

@marcocherubini1279 Ай бұрын

I've bought a 5800x3d and i don't know what is the right voltage, do u have advices ?

@MrCthur Ай бұрын

@@marcocherubini1279 See if you can get to -30mV on all cores and then play with PPT, EDC, etc. I think I'm using something like PPT-114 TDC-75 EDC -115, but I forget.

@chrissyboy7047 3 ай бұрын

Interesting video. Good to see a proper comparison. I did a similar upgrade except I had the 5600 non x. Upgraded my gpu to a 7900xtx so wanted some more grunt to support it. The problem I had is playing at 4k the cpu upgrade wasnt as noticable. Totally thought Id wasted my money at first. Mainly improvements in the lows as you found. Newer games seem to utilise it a bit better now. Ive swapped my gpu out again and got a 4090 and they work well together

@user-jk5um1om8l Ай бұрын

Have a 5600g and about to get a 4080 super. Based on your experience, would you say it’s serviceable or should I spend extra on a 5800x3d? (I mainly play MMORPGs. Thinking of getting into Helldivers 2 once I get my gpu.) Edit: I use a 4K display.

@chrissyboy7047 29 күн бұрын

@@user-jk5um1om8l I would be tempted to upgrade your cpu as thats only a 5500 but with built in graphics. At 4k you might not need it though although you would definitely be leaving some frames on the table. I love the x3d and it performs well in all games Ive tried

@gercho1991 3 ай бұрын

I will be waiting for the same video but with the RTX 4080 super, mate!

@hot_valcano 3 ай бұрын

SAME HERE

@bigatchoum 3 ай бұрын

Fully agree. Please do a follow up with the new CG. I would expect that the 5800X3D will enable the 4080 to stretch its tensor cores, expecially in heavy ray tracing situations.

@Niveko10 3 ай бұрын

Great video! I have a 5800x (undervolt) with a 3070, similar to your combo and i didnt see much benefit in go for the 5800x3D but i though a about it. As you said, may be a better gpu could make more difference in some cases.

@TheAero91 Ай бұрын

Did you run the CPU on stock settings in this video? Or was it undervolted?

@davidnott_ Ай бұрын

All stock.

@rmgaminguk7079 3 ай бұрын

Great video, nice to see a benchmark done with more real world PCs. rather than max GPU to show the max difference. It was great that you changed to settings to see how how the performance gap changed.

@Gago_94 3 ай бұрын

Nice timing of your video as I’m going through similar situation myself. I have 5600X with RTX 3090 (I play all titles on 4K as I have LG C2 which can go up to 120hz) and lately I started thinking of upgrading my CPU but to be honest I started thinking about upgrading mainly because of all other things other than gaming performance. I’m pretty happy with how it handles the games I play (Warframe mostly) but I started getting annoyed on how it slowed down on Windows 11 startup, and some other situations where I literally see that CPU is kinda struggling. From that perspective I started thinking between 5800x3D and 5950X and I still can’t decide in my head because one is really fast in all tasks except gaming and the other one is super strong in gaming… I’ll also wait for your video with 4080 which hopefully might give me more insight on wether should I go for 5800X3D or just go for raw performance in everything else with 5950X. Great video btw. Looking forward to the new one.

@chriswright8074 3 ай бұрын

Zen 4

@Gago_94 3 ай бұрын

@@chriswright8074 not in situation to invest that much money (New CPU,MBO, RAM) thats why i'm thinking of upgrading just CPU..

@OilFreeFeathers 3 күн бұрын

Imagine playing Warframe in 2024, a Canadian gender lecture simulator.

@BReal-10EC 3 ай бұрын

I've been contemplating the same upgrade for my 5600X. I have a 3060 ti now, but if I upgrade to say a 40X0, I need a better CPU unless I just push the GPU use at 4k. The 5600x/3060 ti combo is really well matched for gaming though.

@justluke8836 3 ай бұрын

Go halfway and get the 5700x3d it’s a lot cheaper.

@BReal-10EC 3 ай бұрын

@@justluke8836 I want to make the most of my AM4 system... saving a little for half the performance improvement doesn't seem that appealing now unless I was planning to upgrade the whole rig to a new socket in the near future. The 5800X3d still gives me upper tier Am5 gaming performance on Am4. That's pretty sweet- especially when you look at what AM5 motherboards still cost.

@strongforce8466 3 ай бұрын

@@BReal-10EC I think if you plan to go 7800xt or 4070s, you can stay on the AM4 platform and get 5700x3d or 5800x3d even better, but if you plan to go higher, or in the next year or so, then definitely save for a new gen CPU, even wait for zen 5 this summer and get a non x3d version (as the 3d version will likely not come later), btw, don't go Nvidia mid end 12gb VRAM sux. not worth it. 4070ti super, above or nothing.

@Katastra_ 23 күн бұрын

if you are anywhere near a microcenter and have a friend or family member that needs an upgrade, they have a $300 5800x3d with a $170 motherboard, and a $40 16gb memory kit combo for $330. I'm going to get it and then sell the mobo, ram, and my 5600x to my brother, and get a 5800x3d upgrade out of it for $200, and he gets a much needed upgrade from his i5 2500/8gb ddr3 build from like 2011

@hflx 3 ай бұрын

Tks for the update, I would probably get a 5700x3d now, the issue is AM4 platform is limiting future upgrades now as I use an older MB that does not support PCI gen4. I would say that people with anything equal or lower than ryzen 3000 generation probably will see a great improvement ...

@TaLBLIzZaRd 3 ай бұрын

Hey there, nice video. exactly my use-case. just that now, I more interested on the 5700x3D - significantly cheaper and yet, only about 5~8% slower than the 58. would you recommend getting that, instead of the 58? it sees just about perfect of an upgrade, from the 5600x. ( will get about 120~140$ back on that 5600x, while the 5700x3D will cost about 300 here in my location ).

@Zencho639 Ай бұрын

If you play at 1080 p heavy cpu game could be a good choice rhe 5700x3d but if you play on higher resolutions, i dont find so much advantage with some games.

@JayzBeerz 23 күн бұрын

The 5600X is only $119.99 right now. Killer deal for a budget gaming rig.

@ImperialDiecast 2 ай бұрын

how are you getting 30something fps at 1080p on a 3070 in MSFS? I have seen benchmarks where you could achieve playable framerates at 1440p on this card.

@davidnott_ Ай бұрын

I run a TONNE of add ons. A lot of MSFS benchmarks you see on KZfaq are from people that are simply benchmarking the game in its out of the box state. Whereas I run an entire separate KZfaq channel dedicated to it, so run non-default planes, airports and various other realise enhancing mods

@rickymarumade 3 ай бұрын

Hey, do you play DCS? I was thinking about uprading to 5700x3d from 5600. My GPU is 6700xt. I am mainly playing DCS, hoping to play Microsoft Flight Simulator one day

@cnk-fn3nr 3 ай бұрын

One thing to also keep in mind is that even if GPU limited, many games will have sprcific parts that will ask for way more out of your CPU, and in those times you can appreciate the gains. Namely, in cybperpunk benchmark there will not be much cpu limitation but in the intensive parts where there are tons of animations and NPC's, youd likely note quite the difference.

@Bdot888 3 ай бұрын

Exactly! Those better 1% percent lows really come in handy with the 5800x3d. I rarely feel any noticeable drops nowadays. Smooth like butter cpu

@filiplukes7530 3 ай бұрын

What is the software you use for the CPU and GPU timeings as in the cod test?

@Fergutor 3 ай бұрын

It's an option in the game itself. I have it in Spanish but probably is: Options -> Interface -> Telemetry

@zhezhan8381 3 ай бұрын

Will there be any performance difference between the two CPUs under 4K ?

@davidnott_ 3 ай бұрын

If you’re already GPU limited, it’s unlikely you’ll see a difference

@GroundedTech 3 ай бұрын

Nice video mate.

@AnabolicSaagAloo 3 ай бұрын

I copped a 5800X3D along with a 4070 back in December and it does everything I want at 1080p. I'm able to max out my monitor in more or less everything I play with the right settings. I loved my 5600X and it served me well but the upgrade is nothing to scoff at

@Bdot888 3 ай бұрын

Yeah thats a great combo! Especially since the 5800x3d shines best at 1080p. I have mine paired with a 4070ti at 1440p but i still notice the difference in better 1% lows

@simonvh7092 Ай бұрын

I really appreciate that you're not using the highest quality preset but actually work at around framerates we would be aiming to play on

@stonz_ 3 ай бұрын

This video is exactly what I needed, was also debating a 5800X3D or going all out with AM5. Think I'll just pick up a 5800X3D and wait for the next generation of chips.

@jocerv43 3 ай бұрын

I went from a 5800x to the 3d variant, was thinking of going 7800x3d then decided on 7900x since the difference isn’t as big at 1440p (I have 1440p ultrawide so even less) and has more cores at the same price (Amazon). While trying to pick out a motherboard to pair with it, I had a dejavu moment to Ryzen 1000, having to deal with QVL with Ram, and just ddr5/bios creating instability a year after being released. For reference, most of the boards I looked at had a bios update in September-October and everything else between there and now being labeled Beta. The Reddit threads talking about some of these beta bios versions bricking their boards and eventually being deleted off their downloads page. Did not inspire confidence in the current offerings, now waiting on what the improvements the refresh (assuming that’s what we’ll get) brings. Absolute horror stories of boot times being longer than windows on a spinning hard drive and it being a normal occurrence. One guy was praising a bios update that cut his boot time from 2 minutes to 30 seconds lmao.

@Pikkoroo 3 ай бұрын

@@jocerv43this was a none issue after the 2nd/3rd bios update not even a year after way sooner

@Pikkoroo 3 ай бұрын

@@jocerv43should’ve gone 7800x3d too lol damn man

@insanegamer2886 2 ай бұрын

What momitoring software was used?

@WiseBro11 3 ай бұрын

Informative. thank

@user--R839 3 ай бұрын

I have a question. how does the 5600x compare to the 10900/10900k?

@JBrinx18 3 ай бұрын

I have the 5600x3d, upgraded from a 5600x. Was able to get it for $156, and sell the 5600x for $100 flat. Fallout 4 minimums went from 58 to 88. Excited to see what you get on a 4080 super

@26DeislerFCB 3 ай бұрын

yeah i have a 5600x and in wqhd benches i never saw huge upgrade for the 5800x3d, will probably get a new pc in 3-4 years then am5, wonder how that will change with the new gpu, i have a 1 week old 4070ti super

@999jay999 14 сағат бұрын

I be interested in your fan curve and temps using this chip. Recently got it myself 5800X3D, 53c max so far in my testing's (using my fan curve). Air Cooling. I use a 3080Ti, and was wondering if it would be worth getting a new GPU as I use my setup for VR play.

@Alexandros_Alpha 3 ай бұрын

Hello there! Great video man, very informative. I'm planning to upgrade from an i5 6500/GTX 1060 6Gb to Ryzen 5600X/Arc A770 16Gb. Do you believe that 5600x will do the job with the Arc Gpu or i will have bottleneck problems/limited performance on gaming?

@stroyerb 21 күн бұрын

No bottleneck, pretty good combo. I’d recommend a 6700xt instead though.

@bloodrayneforever 3 ай бұрын

I m building a new system 1440p, i usally play mmorgs and some 3A games, my limit on money in gpu is 4070, question is what cpu is best combo 7600 or 7800x3d? (i heard 7800x3d helps a lot in mmorgs is it true?)

@bal7ha2ar 3 ай бұрын

the 7600x would probably be a better match for the 4070 but the 7800x3d is still worth it imo. the price/performance and efficiency is incredible. maybe this video helps you with your decision: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aq-aZKapy7HVZps.html

@raedshehri2013 8 күн бұрын

Is the 5600X going to hold up or should I get 5800X3D incase fo future GPU uprgade RTX5000 or RX 8000???

@NGreedia 3 ай бұрын

i have a 5600 and 3060. I only play D4 right now at 1080p but ended up getting a 5700x3d at a great price and will keep it for a long time which should help with newer games and allow for at least one more major gpu upgrade

@ryogaz1210 3 ай бұрын

What are the chance that I found this channel when I literally have the same specs as you (5600x + 3070) and have been thinking to upgrade to 5800x3D + 4080 super for a while. Looking forward to the follow up video!

@davidnott_ 3 ай бұрын

Running benchmarks now! Hopefully won’t be long 🙂

@Piznick64 3 ай бұрын

I have a 5700g without a gpu, where should i go for 4k?

@ObsidianSoul1 3 ай бұрын

this is useful for me as I have a 5700x paired with a 6950 xt currently but have been eyeing to get the 5800x3d for the longest time but the price never came down until recently when they introduced the 5700x3d, its priced very well right now

@SiliconPower74 3 ай бұрын

Your CPU is fine, keep it until you can get an used 5800X 3D for dirt cheap. Not worthy it to spend +250$ in a 10% improvement

@ObsidianSoul1 3 ай бұрын

@@SiliconPower74 cpu is fine yes I know I do exclusively play at 1440p ^^

@ryzen89 3 ай бұрын

@nPower74 Agreed. I'll scoop it for $150 on the used market in 2-3 years. Sell my 5600x for $50. The $280 they want for it right now? Is better spent on the upcoming Ryzen 9000, and jump to AM5.

@spike178 2 ай бұрын

Not for me rather go AM5 itx system, expensive though but worth it 😂 Wanted 65watt Cpu for my 10 litre case.

@sirberticus3815 3 ай бұрын

I did the same upgrade about 6 months ago because the 5800X3D was on sale for an unbelievable deal (CDN$249). Now, the 5600X was working OK but I'm also an avid Star Citizen player which requires a lot of CPU power, so I went for it. No regrets ; love my 5800X3D. The 5600X got handed-down into my daughter's computer, so she's happy too.

@Tithulta1 2 ай бұрын

OMG we have very similar systems, except io run with 16gb ddr4 3600, gpu 3070... thanks for this!! I had been trying to decide on saving my AM4 an going 5800x3d vs AM5 7800x3d, obviously best bang for my dollar is WAITING for the newer platform AM5 boards and deciding on cpu/gpu then

@Lukas-lp2fz 3 ай бұрын

Is it worth it for Forza Motorsport 8? Its optimization is horrible and I have frame drops every few seconds which sucks for online racing. (I currently have 5600x and 4070 Super)

@DjelaliAbdelkader 3 ай бұрын

Great video ! subbed, Please as i'm having the same 5600X and wanting to upgrade to the 5700X3D/5800X3D in the future , can you test PUBG ? it's a very heavy CPU game, and i really need to see if it is really worth it to upgrade :)

@davidnott_ 3 ай бұрын

I don’t own PUBG, sorry!

@atiagooqkinguliaalu4027 3 ай бұрын

@@davidnott_ its now a free game

@lukevirtualgameruk3523 3 ай бұрын

Nice video I'm going to get a 5800x 3d and not move to am5 yet with a 7900xtx Thanks for the info I look forwward to seeing the 4080 super.

@davidnott_ 3 ай бұрын

Video is already up 🙂

@Fester_ 3 ай бұрын

For me it would make total sense from 5800x as I play AAC, EA WRC, DR 2.0 in left seat with COD on my desk when I take a break, 1 system both games running. Haven't changed yet, no need and cash saved buys more solar stuff. Thanks for the up to date comparison, Nott.

@Paulie8K 3 ай бұрын

Nice. Ive debated the upgrade for over a year as I have a 3700X paired with a 3080FE 10GB. I tend to play at 1440P high settings and typically GPU bound but there are some games I'm cpu bound in. I hardly ever play low setting competitive games where having a better CPU really shines. Im now also considering the 5700X3D.

@TheVanillatech 3 ай бұрын

Last chance saloon if you want a new one, with all the goodness of the warranty etc. They won't be around for much longer.

@Paulie8K 3 ай бұрын

@@TheVanillatechTrue. I'll decide by the Spring. I could sell my 3700X and my Meta Quest 2 (upgraded to the 3) and pretty much upgrade for free so I may go that route.

@kastrijotgegic7078 27 күн бұрын

Im wondering how big is the difference between 5800X3D and 5700X3D in Warzone 3 with same gpu that you have?

@davidnott_ 27 күн бұрын

Yeah I wonder the same. I suspect not a tonne. Maybe when I’m a big time KZfaqr I’ll buy them all and test haha

@doctorb4n3 3 ай бұрын

Back when 5000 series released, looking for an upgrade from 2600X while I was thinking about 5600x or 5800x in the end I got 5900x because of the much larger L3 Cache 64MB and I this is the reason why I am not moving to DDR5 yet. Because of issues with 7000 series and the windows thread director, I will probably be waiting for 9800x3D or 9900x which will release toward end of 2024 if rumors are true, and provide substantial IPC gains. Regarding 5800x3D my opinion is that it is a great choice for a DDR4 platform upgrade if you have a really powerful GPU and want to push competitive high-fps titles. For example, a friend who is a competitive player of COD Warzone went through a few upgrades and lastly got RTX4070 Super but will upgrade 5800x for a 5800x3D to get from ~160fps (currently) to ~200fps (educated estimate) without having to transition to a DDR5 platform.

@Pillokun 3 ай бұрын

almost the same perf as mine 12700k with ddr5 and 6900xt in wz. I had an 5800x3d back in the day and compared it to mine 12700k and 12900k(b-die ddr4) and was impressed how good it was, but ddr5 changed it all, remember that zen4 is still basically zen3 but with more level 2 cache and ddr5 memory support and it is basically as fast as the 5800x3d. a friend of mine upgraded like a year ago to an 5800x3d from an 1600 and he was supper happy, still is. he then upgraded from the 3060ti to an 7900xtx and the alienware 165hz qd-oled. Pretty sure his am4 sys will keep up with most modern cpus for a long time to come at higher graphical settings. but personally I hate the emtpy map runs, all u get to see is the best case scenario, not really like if one looked at the sky or an ocean view but almost, one should also include a view in the middle of it, in action and with more objects/players on. Sure it increases the load on the gpu but also the cpu.

@dhrubajyotibasu6505 3 ай бұрын

are you still using single fan air cooler with it? or is it recommended to get a dual fan one?

@stuffmcstuff399 3 ай бұрын

Peerless Assassin 120 SE will work wonders with 5800x3d and is cheap!

@baggerjax 3 ай бұрын

remember when you toss a AMD CPU with a AMD GPU enable SAM for up to 15% increase in performance I run my 5800X3D with a 6950TX and still could use more GPU

@tasercs 3 ай бұрын

I had a 5800X and got a good deal on a 5800X3D a while back. It made a noticeable difference to MSFS... But I just upgraded from my 3070 (which is all I could get during the GPU famine a few years back) to a 4080 Super. I nearly always use VR in MSFS and before, whatever adjustment I made, I was always squeezing every last drop out of my system... the 4080 Super was like lifting a weight off my shoulders.... 30fps with judders instantly became 65fps without. I have now been able to activate things I had forgotten about long ago like ambient occlusion (which adds contrast to the scenery and makes the instrument panel come to life), raymarched reflections (which brings the Downtown Manhattan skyline to life - reflected in the water!)...not to mention shadow maps up to 4096 and a whole host of things I had to do without, but that add immensley to the experience. With everything cranked up, I haven't been able to force it below 30fps yet, but noticeably, it is the smoothness that has massively improved. And I haven't even touched on 2D with DLSS Frame Generation ON. Double frame rate with no real loss of quality (as long as you don't use the built in FPS counter that only shows pre-frame generation figures of course - Afterburner overlay is fine)... You are going to love your 4080 Super! I had to upgrade my PSU so as to prevent any awkward fire type incidents but otherwise, it is brilliant (approx £500 too much, but brilliant)

@strongforce8466 3 ай бұрын

Cool but even with that CPU you're a bit CPU limited, I'd say 4080/7900xtx and above need a last gen CPU X3d AMD or intel to make the most out of it

@Ethan7_7 3 ай бұрын

Is that an ak400? I got the same

@highspeedcruise1496 2 ай бұрын

I’m a flight simmer, too, thanks for the video. Doesn’t it get very hot compared to the 5600 X?

@trivium2590 3 ай бұрын

just got a 4080 super myself and have a 7600x so interested tl see future testing

@tmtltn 3 ай бұрын

7600x is amazing CPU. For 6 cores 12 threads can handle every title easily. For gaming you don’t need more cores, above 6 is overkill,specially with these bad optimised games.

@trivium2590 3 ай бұрын

@@tmtltn this is true but to run programs in the background its better to have more available.

@raytek8837 3 ай бұрын

showing benchmarks at 1080p low would have been more relevant since you would have been less gpu limited. great video

@BottomTierSubHuman 3 ай бұрын

Going from 6c/12t to 8c/16t for daily use feels like a massive jump. Completely worth it even without the 3d cache.

@petermolnar8401 Ай бұрын

what cpu you suggest for an rtx 4070? r 5 5600 or 5800x3d?

@davidnott_ Ай бұрын

I wouldn’t go 5600. I had a 5600x and upgraded from a 3070 to. 4070 and noticed little difference in warzone and flight sim, my two main games.

@petermolnar8401 Ай бұрын

@@davidnott_ bottlenec at cpu heavy games?

@IceBreakBottle 3 ай бұрын

YOu should try CPU dependent games. That's where you see the difference. Like I did the exact same upgrade specifally for Escape from Tarkov and the performance jump is actually INSANE

@__Pathfinder__ 3 ай бұрын

I upgraded from 5800X (B0 stepping) to 5800X3D. This upgrade cost me around 140€. But was it worth it?! More than worth it! I play Squad, Arma etc. (Online) and got a massive improvement in GPU usage (7800XT@ 1440p). Sometimes the GPU usage dropped to 80% in Squad for longer periods. That is all gone now. It's almost always 92%+, most of the time 95-100%. So it was a huge FPS improvement, both in AVG and 1% lows. You should set Curve Optimizer all core to -25 or -30 (nothing else needed). That will boost your cores ingame to 4,45 Ghz (constant!) and brings you a further FPS and rendering score boost. It will lower your temps around -10c (huge improvement!) and your CPU power consumption will be a dream. No need to go for AM5 at all if you do more gaming than content. For 1440p/1080p it's the perfect upgrade, especially for Online MP Games, which will have massiv benefits. This is a CPU for years to come and already a legend!

@davidnott_ 3 ай бұрын

Yes! I’m going to have a play with tuning the chip soon. Another video, perhaps! Glad you’re enjoying the chip

@__Pathfinder__ 3 ай бұрын

@@davidnott_ There is no OC or classic adjusting VCORE with 5800X3D, because it could harm the sensitive cache. So AMD disabled it. And limiting PPT, EDC and TDC can be done, but is not needed, since the 3D doesn't come close to the AMD default limits. Just Curve Optimizer all core to -30 or -25 for undervolting. That's the way AMD want it to be done. Some golden chips can do the maximum of -30. But almost all 3D can do -25. This will give you a huge performance boost in games and even in cinebench. And the CPU will be cool and saving.

@dkindig 3 ай бұрын

@@davidnott_Highly recommended. I'm running 5800X and undervolting dropped temps considerably. Using a Scythe Fuma II cooler and run at a constant 4.7-4.8 GHz and generally run up to around 83* at most under the heaviest loads (85* is thermal throttle temp). This is with ambient temps in the low 70's (Fahrenheit).

@MrSCOTTtheSCOT 3 ай бұрын

Did you change your cooler?

@davidnott_ 3 ай бұрын

Nope, reused my ID cooling tower cooler. Seems fine 🙂

@curtismariani6303 3 ай бұрын

Getting better 1% lows is a good result. I much prefer a closer gap between Ave FPS and 1% lows. Gives a much smoother experience. I’m currently running a 4090 with a 5800x3d, my friend has an almost identical setup, except he is running a 7800x3d and DDR5 RAM. In the call of duty benchmarks there is an about a 8-9% difference with the same settings (we used IceManlsaac’s settings no upscaling) at 3440x1440p we were both over 200 fps with about a 10 fps gap. My monitor maxes out at a 175hz so based on that, I plan to skip Zen 4 all together. I’m not sure I’ll upgrade my GPU when 5000 series releases so will likely upgrade my platform nearer the 6000 series launch (or even go Intel if they manage to sort the efficiency out).

@julienmarschall7518 2 ай бұрын

I have a 7800xt paired with an 5800x ( not 3d) and i am contantly CPU Bottlenecked in Jedi Survivor Hogwarts Legacy or Cyberpunk. Especially when i turn on RT Reflections in Cyberpunk and i then turn on FSR i dont get a single FPS more because my CPU is fuming Thinking of upgrading to the x3D but i wait for FSR 3 implementation and see if they get rid of that problem for me or if i have to do something about it

@brutalliance5187 3 ай бұрын

It was day and night difference for me in games like Escape from Tarkov when I upgraded from 5600x to 5800x3d. Also those stutters in Baldurs Gate 3rd act were gone.

@Valkross9 13 күн бұрын

On the D4 test, I'd say ~20fps on the 1% low is a big improvement. You're more likely to notice the 1% low than the .1% just off of the rate of occurrence. I just bought a 5800X3D myself, albeit because for some reason, 4 cores of my 5700G decided to retire.

@misiekki Ай бұрын

I've upgrated from 3600 to 5800X3D a month ago and I am like, wow :D Hope this CPU will be more than enough for the next few years or so

@davidnott_ Ай бұрын

Oh wow, yeah you’ll really feel that upgrade. I could notice from a 5600X, but a 3600 must be wild. Enjoy the upgrade!

@rozzbourn3653 3 ай бұрын

upgraded my sons pc from a 3700x to the 5800x3d, but not his video card yet (2070 super), so not too much of an improvement yet. when the next round of GPU's come out, he will get a nice bump in performance.

@lumia_dayZ 3 ай бұрын

I still use radeon vii with i7 8700k for 1440p do you think it's bottlenecking the radeon vii

@MarkLikesCoffee860 3 ай бұрын

It would be best if we explain how to answer your question yourself so you can learn how to spot bottlenecks in the future. You need to add an overlay to show your GPU usage and a breakdown of your CPU usage showing what each CPU core is doing while gaming. If the GPU is near 100% then you don't need a CPU upgrade. If your GPU usage is much lower then it's being held back by the CPU. The 8700K has 6 cores so check if any of them have utilization near 90% or above. Don't look at the overall CPU utilization because that doesn't mean anything unless all cores are maxed out.

@brugj03 3 ай бұрын

I upgrade my 5950x system with some Gskill 3600 c14-14-14 royal memory. A massive upgrade in games as well on the desktop, zen 3 is severely mem limited. And it shows. I compaired my upgraded system with a 7950X3D and didn`t feel the need to change, the difference was minimal.

@roggy1917 3 ай бұрын

Hello i have b450m motherboard ryzen 2700x and gtx 1650 can i upgrade to 5800x3d and 4060 with no motherboard change?

@MarkLikesCoffee860 3 ай бұрын

Yes but you could have found that out by looking at the website of your motherboard manufacturer. Look up this information before you purchase anything. It will tell you which BIOS versions are compatible with the 5800x3d.

@28469 3 ай бұрын

I went from 5900x to 5800x3d and the difference is night and day

@bs2096 3 ай бұрын

Im ready to watch this experiment with the 4080 and see how much of a difference. 😊

@davidnott_ 3 ай бұрын

Working on it 🙂

@Ganimoth 3 ай бұрын

Coincidently I am about to almost the same (except with 5700x3D) upgrade, just because I play a lot of World of Warcraft which INSANELY benefits from 3D cache. And it will help a lot in other games, like Stellaris.

@Bdot888 3 ай бұрын

Perfect games to flex the 3DVcache!

@ToneRetroGaming 3 ай бұрын

In cpu-limited games where that massive 96MB of cache can be fully utilized the X3D CPUs are unrivaled. I made the move from the 3800 XT to the 5800x3D last summer and as many have said and this video proves the biggest improvements will be averages and 1% lows. Take a game like No Man's Sky that can be seriously cpu-limited in certain areas. These are the types of games where the X3D chips improve your experience noticeably.

@TheIYFGamingTM 3 ай бұрын

I went from a 3700x to a 5800x3d with my 2070super and got in most games round about 10 percent more fps because my gpu finally runs at 100 percent now, while the 5800x3d barely hits like 35 percent. I am planning to get a new GPU later this year to unveil the full potencial of this CPU. Looking at the games I am playing at the moment it is not really necessary and I am pretty happy to have little better fps and a way smoother experience for now. Spending just 300$ to squeeze one more potencial GPU upgrade out of my current system was well worth it imo, considering I likely won't have much time to play video games in the future anyway.

@amcdonald7479 2 ай бұрын

I'm in the exact same position. Thx for video. Ryzen 5600 and Rx 6800 . 3600mhz cl14. Very similar.

@jopppsss Ай бұрын

I have a similiar setup with you, running at 1080p though.

@cartuber1570 3 ай бұрын

boys help me out i have just bought 4080 super suprim X i had a 3070ti so i made a upgrade but my Cpu is 5800x and i dont wanna change the motherboard for another cpu am5 so i have am4 socket does it worth buying 5800x3d for upgrade my 5800x ? as i can see i have some bottleneck call of duty gpu is 3ms which is super fast my cpu around 6ms so i have a huge bottleneck but still i got 300 fps with dlss framegen and my gaming is so smooth in CSgo i got 300 plus in all maps so as i have 240 hz monitor i do get more than 240 fps in everygame i play should i still consider getting 5800x3d for another %10 %15 fps increase ? Thanks in advance.

@reizanaliu 3 ай бұрын

If you play COD buy the 5800x3d without fear. You will gain 50% more fps.

@kahvituttaa545 3 ай бұрын

I have rtx3070 and 5800x both are very good and optimized, but i dont thing u results will change at all with 5800x3d.. in some games 5800x3d is 1% faster but i thing cs was game where u got more fps with normal 5800x. I say i will stay 5800x for rest of am4 but if u feel and want 3d version just do it man! I dont thing u gonna regret it.. it is nice cpu :)

@strongforce8466 3 ай бұрын

Save for zen 5 X3d to be honest, make sure you running dual rank memory : 2x16 or 4x8gb with decent speed/timings

@cartuber1570 3 ай бұрын

@@strongforce8466 i got 2x16gb

@Keyaerts 3 ай бұрын

I'm currently on a 5700X and 7800XT combo and loving it (started with 2700X and RX 580). But I rarely play competitive games and everthing above 90 fps is smooth enough for me. I don't know if upgrading to the 5800X3D would make a noticable difference... monitor is 1440p 144Hz

@fatih9016 3 ай бұрын

I'm currently running a r5 5600x with an RX6600 GPU and I was planning to upgrade to a 5800x3d down the line to not need to upgrade anything else. If anything this video kinda reinforced my decision, though I would upgrade my GPU first, probably to a 7700xt

@daytimerocker3808 3 ай бұрын

wont see any benefit from that cpu u can handle a much better gpu

@SM-qp4qw 3 ай бұрын

@@daytimerocker3808 This video proves that point I would say.

@decegrease 3 ай бұрын

As someone who bought a 5800x3D from a 5600x last summer and bought a 4080 super on launch day, i think youll be pleased with what it can do lol

@tizianodewaele3575 3 ай бұрын

i have currently a r5 5600x and a rx6800 on 1080p. Im not sure if i upgrade my cpu to 5800x3d or my display.

@MarkLikesCoffee860 3 ай бұрын

If the rx6800 is maxed out near 100% then you don't need a 5800x3d. If the 5600x is bottlenecked then the rx6800 won't be able to reach anywhere near 100% and will be much lower. You need to enable the overlays like the guy in the video did. He explained how to spot a bottleneck. This video is for our benefit so we can learn how to spot a bottleneck.

@haroonahmed1077 3 ай бұрын

In my opinion upgrading from 5600/5600x to 5800x3D is only worth it if you have AMD Rx 6700 xt / 3070 or above that.

@ispodstrehe3065 2 ай бұрын

I have rx6800 and ryzen 5 5600 should i change to 5800x3d

@haroonahmed1077 2 ай бұрын

@@ispodstrehe3065 yes

@SM-qp4qw 3 ай бұрын

Keep it up

@CartGoBroom 3 ай бұрын

Im still using my r5 3600, is it worth upgrading to r7 5700x? Or build the new am5

@mp32298 3 ай бұрын

What games what rez?

@mp32298 3 ай бұрын

What is your card to? Also if you can it's best to go with AM5 but since you are on AM4 I think a CPU and GPU would be better though

@CartGoBroom 3 ай бұрын

@@mp32298 i just bought my rtx 4060 Ti 16G, and im using a 1440p monitor

@fiece4767 3 ай бұрын

Go for 5800x3d so you can max out your platform or buy am5 with 7800x3d and be done with it for a long time. I know its a lot of money but it will serve you for few gpu upgrades. No point in getting 5700x def not non x version. Im waiting on 15th gen intel if it will make any difference, if not, im getting 7800x3d.

@veltriix 3 ай бұрын

I just did this back in December, from my 5600X to a 5800X3D and it was mainly for my flight sim. The improvement has been massive in terms of stutter. Not the average which would not matter in a simulator but for the %1 lows. In other games though it is nice to see more consistent FPS and I don't have to worry about my CPU bottlenecking my 7800 XT.

@davidnott_ 3 ай бұрын

Firm handshakes from a fellow flight simmer

@veltriix 3 ай бұрын

@@davidnott_ the biggest improvement I got from the Simulator was using FSLTL and PMDG aircraft in like Haneda with almost everything set to ultra. I was holding at least 45-50fps and with AMD fluid motion frames I was perceiving 90-100 fps and it works well with free sync. It is the best experience I’ve had in the simulator! I came from a similar build like you, I had a 3060 Ti and 5600X but I went full AMD

@davidnott_ 3 ай бұрын

@@veltriix I was testing last night at Bristol (pilot plus scenery) with FSLTL in the PMDG 737 and with the 4080 super I was getting 90-110 with frame gen at 4K TAA. Impressed!

@veltriix 3 ай бұрын

@@davidnott_ that’s awesome! Always nice to see those improvements especially for simulators and the immersion. Funny how we took different upgrade paths for the GPU but I’m on the same boat, I am happy with the 5800X3D until the new platform comes out. It sucks that there’s not a single guide or optimization video/forum for AMD cards for the simulator. It was mostly trial and error for my end until I found the sweet spot

@NGreedia Ай бұрын

I went from a 5600 to a 5700x3d. Main reason was I paid less for the 5700x3d than I did for my 5600. I’m on a 3060 so I don’t see as much of an improvement, but this should allow me to upgrade my gpu to a higher tier card without issues and without having to upgrade the platform at least until zen 6 or later

@illac3429 3 ай бұрын

im considering bying this chip and a new mobo to upgrade from my sad i7-7700k i got in 2017, i recently got a new 3060 12gb from an old 1060 6bg but ive been holding off on the mobo cpu switch since ill probably have to jump to windows 11, this vid deffo helped me feel more secure in purchasing the 5800x3d.

@Definedd 3 ай бұрын

unless you're already on AM4, its worth getting onto AM5 instead with a ryzen 5 7600. performs the same, but is a newer platform and has future upgrades.

@rallyscoot 3 ай бұрын

Am5 was really a better buy.. Am4 wouldnt have a long time anymore.

@illac3429 3 ай бұрын

@@Definedd Only issue is the more expensive mobos and id have to buy a full new set of ram i dont mind not having an upgrade path since ive been with intel for a while and you hardly get an upgrade path with them anyway.

@strongforce8466 3 ай бұрын

@@illac3429 just save for AM5 CPUs this summer, even if it means getting a 6 core or 9700 non X CPU as the X3d chips might not release right away, but of course then your CPU will be way overkill for your GPU so you'll know what to upgrade next lol

@illac3429 3 ай бұрын

@@strongforce8466 mate I already spent 400 AUD on the gpu the price difference for a full set of ddr5 ram is almost 200 bucks and the CPU is round about the same in price difference, summers almost over and honestly I already got four 8gb sticks of ddr4 the second hand market in Australia is dead and stale as hell so I can't even pawn off my old components for scratch.

@Adam-tx3vm 3 ай бұрын

So, i need a new cpu and ram combo, im currently on a 5600x with 32gb of corsair 3000mhz(1 x 16gb + 2 x 8gb sticks) i recently changed my pc to white(case,fans,cpu aio and psu cable extensions) so i want to upgrade my cpu and i want white RAM that is matching, to get a 5800x3d and the ram i want it will cost around 400, im wondering if this is worth it as apposed to spending the exta 350 and getting a 7800x3d with a new mobo and ram ddr5? anyone got any opinions as too which they think is better value for money? oh and i have an rx 6700xt 12gb. thanks in advance for any advice

@davidnott_ 3 ай бұрын

Depends on the games you’re playing and at what res as you’re likely to be GPU limited in a lot of titles, as I was in Diablo and cyberpunk. The X3D are less sensitive to needing fancy ram due to the increased cache on the chip. I was actually thinking of buying some cheap cheap ram and doing a comparison against my more expensive stuff

@Adam-tx3vm 3 ай бұрын

@@davidnott_ to be honest ive not been playing that many games im just impulsive haha, i made a mistake on pricing though the am5 build would cost an extra 250 as oppsoed to the 350 i mentioned above, i know ill be gpu limited which im fine with as im planning on getting a new gpu in the next year or so but the two main games are fortnite and Fivem if youve heard of it, fivem is quite cpu bound and fortnite i like to use performance mode which having a really good cpu obviously helps its basically the decision as to whether its worth upgrading to am5 or sticking with am4 for the next say two years before i upgrade again im abit stuck lol because ive heard some people are completely skipping am5 and staying on am4 till the next gen is released :/

@kevincampbell989 Күн бұрын

I'll definitely be doing this upgrade in the near future but I think I'll upgrade the gpu first. Im still on a 2070 and 5600x still gives good enough performance for now. So GPU takes priority. Im thinking 7700XT or 7800XT just depends on whats available.

@Kage0No0Tenshi 3 ай бұрын

When I upgrade from 5600x 4.9Ghz all core to 5800X3D I got less fps in csgo and then cs2 beta official release and x3d gives much more fps over 5600x when I test out, 3d cash was waste I was thinking but worth! I am happy with it and will upgrade upcoming years.

@jaz97 3 ай бұрын

I just got into PC building/gaming over the last year. I currently have the same chip 5600x/B550 MB and 3060ti FE. Mid tier set up i guess. Was thinking of upgrading to 5800x3d/7900xtx. Or maybe just use 5600x/7900xtx??

@jimski5358 3 ай бұрын

Get the gpu and wait for zen 5 for your cpu upgrade is what I'm doing , I have a 5600x and 7900xtx and at 4k its ok not worth staying on am4 imo

@jaz97 3 ай бұрын

@jimski5358 thx