Love how he puts a tension wrench to prevent damage with the lockpick, then later proceeds to TORCH IT. :)
@kenmanes19552 жыл бұрын
Hey. It was an appropriate gesture of appreciation for the maker b4 goin full tilt breakdance open campus on the challenge. Lol. So coo!
@paulelderson934 Жыл бұрын
I get the thought process. He always tries to make sure that the covert entry won't be detected. Although in this case, you're absolutely right. I'm pretty sure they would notice their lock being scorched and broken...
@LemonPowerade8 ай бұрын
W
@CGoody5645 жыл бұрын
The fact that they actually asked for feedback and made alterations on future products based on said feedback from the locksport community is highly encouraging to hear.
@andrewpickle43244 жыл бұрын
Yhea I'll replace my lock with one passed by this guy
@Sciguy954 жыл бұрын
More companies should do things like that.
@HighlyRegardted4 жыл бұрын
I agree... more industries in general should do this
@racoonpriest33844 жыл бұрын
he gets sent locks from companys all the time tho this isnt new
@waltradcliffe44823 жыл бұрын
This is free R&D, one lock and postage is a small investment for a better lock!
@bladerunner125 жыл бұрын
"Apparently I'm the guy to go to when you deal with really strange and impractical ways to open locks." yep.
@MushVPeets4 жыл бұрын
IDK, if there's potential for a lock body to just wash away under a few minutes of heat from a portable torch that doesn't really raise any suspicion to carry in your truck, that seems like a practical way to take someone's stuff in the right circumstances. Good to see that this lock isn't that way.
@onlinepanic20364 жыл бұрын
@@MushVPeets the key phrase is "a few minutes." You would have to stay there in one position with a lit torch going ham on the entrance to somewhere without anyone actually going by and noticing you. In the world we live in people are everywhere, and more time is more of a multiplier for getting caught. If you are not in a situation where you are out in the open, you had to 1:park in a weird spot. 2: drag that torch out in the open 3: walk a suspicious route while carrying a fucking blow torch, THEN stand there and go ham on the lock. It really is weird and impractical.
@crashtiansClips3 жыл бұрын
@@onlinepanic2036 Put on a tool belt, a yellow hard hat and overalls, wave at people as they pass by. You don't have to hide, you just have to look like you're hired to be there.
@patrickmoroz52823 жыл бұрын
one word ramset
@RannonSi2 жыл бұрын
@Charles Wetherspoon Unless I misremember the Turkish Police (as I remember it) did a test (due to having a large amount of kidnappings from the homes) were they (in civilian clothing) just went to the front door, knocked and asked the person opening to take a sip from a glass of water they were holding in their hand, apparently a l disturbing amount of people actually did it.
@thelockpickinglebowski6336 жыл бұрын
Consider that you're now at a level when you're picking open a lock in under 2 minutes, you state "Quite a bit of fight out of this lock." Heheheh. Great job, man!
@lockpickinglawyer6 жыл бұрын
😁 Thanks.
@johnabrams81484 жыл бұрын
You said exactly what I was going to say.
@HariSeldon9134 жыл бұрын
@@lockpickinglawyer I wasn't watching the clock and it seemed like longer, but that must be because you're so quick with everything else. I was a bit disappointed when you cut away for putting it back together. Do any of your videos show the reassembly after you gut a core? That's something I'd like to see.
@whiterussian75644 жыл бұрын
A beast
@kenmanes19552 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure this good fella needs a level 33 puzzle box.
@themadhatter47616 жыл бұрын
It’s a shame you had to destroy the lock with your logo on, hopefully they’ll send you antother😉👍👍
@charlesxix5 жыл бұрын
The logo was put on by the manufacturer. Read previous comments.
@LairdDeimos5 жыл бұрын
@@charlesxix That's the point. He destroyed a customized lock.
@OmicronChan5 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisG0 a block lock with the bolt and cylinder weld shut.
@annando4 жыл бұрын
I also was a bit sad about seeing this beautiful lock being destroyed. I really do hope that he received a new one.
@rumandbass4 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisG0 I don't believe he's encountered a lock he couldn't pick.
@GhostPuddle3 жыл бұрын
I forgot he's american and when he said "a couple hundred degrees" I was picturing the flames of hell itself.
@Aengus423 жыл бұрын
I had the same thought!
@Burning_Dwarf3 жыл бұрын
Aye
@Minimal_Mischief3 жыл бұрын
Melting point of aluminum is approximately 200 C higher than that of zinc. Closer to 250, actually. It’s possible he was thinking Fahrenheit but accidentally stumbled upon the correct interval in Celsius. Or he was correct all along and was using an untypical unit of measurement for those from the States.
@advena9962 жыл бұрын
Scientific fields use metric measurements, even in the US, so he very well may have been using metric. It's so much simpler when you start to get to the extremes of temps.
@mandowarrior1232 жыл бұрын
@@advena996 scientists always mix units, time is imperial.
@MrJgstoner6 жыл бұрын
Aluminum gets brittle as it heats up. In welding it is called "Hot Short" I believe Paclock simply used a standard extruded aluminum like heat treatable 6061 and machined it down. This differs from the metal in the American lock in that it was CAST, not machined. Casting aluminum is not the same as extruded aluminum (like the Paclock) It is chock full of doping agents (zinc can be one of these agents along with a host of other things). This can, not so much change the melting point (which it DOES, but not by as much as you may think), but aid the casting type aluminum in melting and freezing (changing phases) more uniformly, and so the American gave way all at once, whereas the Paclock would reach melting point at different points throughout the torching, but it's chemistry is less condusive to uniform "liquidus" and conducts heat better, being more "pure" aluminum than the casting aluminum and so made it a fantastic heat-sink. The back of the American seemed to fall out, though it is uniformly shaped. Generally, aluminum likes to be the same temperature ALL the way around and as fast as possible. Just an observation that ultimately means nothing. Here is a link to an article describing hot-shortness www.corrosionpedia.com/definition/638/hot-shortness
@mattmiller46455 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that mate.
@erikev4 жыл бұрын
Aluminium does not get brittle when hot. It starts to get soft and ductile, and can be deformed like plastic.
@alexsis17784 жыл бұрын
Also helps a bit that he's got it in that nice big metal vice. Think this is a situation where having it on the chain would actually be a benefit because the air and chain links are a much worse heat conductor in their own right.
@alexsis17784 жыл бұрын
@@erikev He's not saying that its directly brittle when hot. He's saying that the more times you heat it up, the more brittle it becomes (more aluminum oxide in the structure).
@KyleE-pm1nt4 жыл бұрын
PACLOCK locks are indeed 6061.
@blucanyon3223 жыл бұрын
The highest praise LPL can give: I would use this lock
@paperaxes41923 жыл бұрын
Quick note: I wouldn't classify a blowtorch as a "plumber's torch" as you did in this video. It's much more useful (and the trade standard as far as I know) to refer to them by the fuel used: propane torch (hot), MAPP gas (really hot), etc. They often use the same torch head and connectors, but the difference in fuel distinguishes their use as propane will melt solder for copper pipe; MAPP gas will also melt solder but it's too hot for small pipe. Acetylene is hot enough to cut pipe. Cheers
@poolmotorrepairguyFL Жыл бұрын
Heat comes from the blue tip of the torch. I use UN1001 Acetyene Dissolved. 🥵
@FixxeR1865 жыл бұрын
When your everyday real people KZfaqrs actually prompt entire companies into rethinking, researching, and ultimately improving a product for everyone... That's what's up.
@u.v.s.55835 жыл бұрын
Yes, they should build in an internal heating element so you can just plug the lock in and it will melt all by itself!
@FixxeR1863 жыл бұрын
@@mattmurphy7030 i have doubts about masterlock lol. also, a year ago, when i posted this comment, LPL wasn't quite as well known of as he is today. Deservingly too!
@Last_Chance.2 жыл бұрын
As it should be
@jamesvanhouten94032 жыл бұрын
@@u.v.s.5583] ]2
@zeroxception Жыл бұрын
" everyday real people" everyday real people are not expert lockpickers
@davidgingras45134 жыл бұрын
"Locksport community"? I had no idea this existed, or had a name.
@thetzeentchianrepresentati55474 жыл бұрын
David Gingras I mean... they’re typically called thieves :)
@johnflowers7414 жыл бұрын
Idiots.
@zethyr88334 жыл бұрын
Defcon has some, and other locksport events go down all over the place. Some that immediately comes to mind is the locksport club in Austin, Texas or Seattle, Washington. Most major cities have one or two, Google it. The benefits of these types of events go from designing elaborate puzzle locks for fun, testing locksmith's skills, and improving on manufacturers designs. More than a few (reputable) manufacturers have upped their game and recalled certain locks with glaring flaws. And for the ones insinuating that locksport enthusiasts are criminals in training, that's such a simple minded point of view. That's like saying everyone who learns martial arts or trains to run fast or be an impressive marksman/markswoman or learn cyber security pen/testing are also all trying to learn to be criminals. Edit: got more specific about locations and how to find events/clubs
@tommypetraglia46884 жыл бұрын
Do they stretch before each Locksport event? 🤣🤣
@ArchangelExile3 жыл бұрын
They probably take steroids to gain an advantage too.
@benbabich4 жыл бұрын
anything that confounds him for more than a minute, I'll buy.
@Vera-be6yq6 жыл бұрын
"Let's take a closer look at this lock..." *immediately zooms out* Great pick as always.
@metocvideo4 жыл бұрын
At last a lock company ceo that listens to and puts into practice reviews by LPL and BB, AND reads the comments. Basically he has the smarts to save a huge amount of expensive R&D.
@TheUniquePlumberman6 жыл бұрын
Hi LPL, I just wanted to chime in here. As I am actually a Plumber by trade and a Lock sport enthusiast by hobby, I should tell you that your torching technique would have been quicker had you set your flame at the correct distance from the work. The hottest part of any flame is at it's tip. I noticed you being too close and I would have recommended concentrating the flame more to the outer side of the lock body opposite of the pins. Otherwise the mention of a steel version was ideal. I made that suggestion in the comments in Bill's video review as well. Great review! Thank you!
@bytheseaaspirinshop8015 жыл бұрын
Also, the vise probably sank some heat.
@kwils66855 жыл бұрын
@@bytheseaaspirinshop801 I agree even though only a small part of the lock was in contact with the vise it was very close to the spot he was heating and allowed a lot of the heat to sink into the vise.
@jonhunt54085 жыл бұрын
J. Wilson additionally it appeared as though care was taken to focus the heat on the shackle and to avoid heating the aluminum at the weakest point and advance the molten puddle towards the locking components. It's almost as if the LPL didn't want the heating attack to be successful. Then you see the glowing review of the review of the lock by the Manufacturer, and it's enough to make you go hmmm.
@scottkarry40385 жыл бұрын
Jon Hunt I was thinking the same thing while watching, I normally love his unbiased videos but this one seemed off to me as he is focusing the heat to the only parts not made of aluminum
@troyf15 жыл бұрын
You said... "The hottest part of any flame is at it's tip.", I wanted to add a reference... www.bernzomatic.com/Using-a-Torch/Torch-Safety (search the page for the word 'hottest').
@JesseMerrick97974 жыл бұрын
“Let’s take a closer look” Camera zooms out
@JapaneseSoomi3 жыл бұрын
"Let's take a closer look at this lock..." immediately zooms out Great pick as always.
@JapaneseSoomi3 жыл бұрын
Someone else said it before u 2 years ago lol
@spocksvulcanbrain4 жыл бұрын
Another thing. If it were mounted on metal, heat dissipation would be greater. If on flammable material, you'd burn the house down before melting the lock.
@Paxmax3 жыл бұрын
The comment I was looking for.
@Minecraft101ToonLink3 жыл бұрын
At that point, the lock is the least of your problems. 😂
@elementalist19843 жыл бұрын
Would it burn down or weaken the surface it was mounted too first?
@stompingpeak20433 жыл бұрын
@@elementalist1984 yeah you might as well bring an axe or sledge and bust in the door
@hellwardenwot51482 жыл бұрын
"if you were thinking what I was thinking" no, no I wasn't even thinking
@gizmo24454 жыл бұрын
Only recently found this channel and I’m noticing something incredible. Unless I’m mistaken it seems that companies making new locks are in touch with and seek feedback from the lock picking community. That’s genuinely amazing.
@ArchangelExile3 жыл бұрын
Any smart company will take feedback from enthusiasts/consumers.
@mrevilducky3 жыл бұрын
*locksporting community
@Aengus423 жыл бұрын
It's how companies test their IT setup by interfacing with the hacker community. A good hack into a big company is seen as a job application!
@aspwil2 жыл бұрын
@@Aengus42 lmao. Hack into the ceo's pc and leave your resume on the desktop
@sprolyborn25542 жыл бұрын
@@mrevilducky **lockpicking. trying to rebrand this hobby is outright pointless and ignorant. theres nothing wrong with having lockpicking be your hobby.
@DuelJ0074 жыл бұрын
Hey, we know yoi like picking locks, so made a custom lock for you! We made it your favorite color, and engraved your name on it, isn't that neat... also, we need you to destroy it.
@ivan_pozdeev_u3 жыл бұрын
How Machiavellian! >:-)
@AS-do6pr2 жыл бұрын
Did you ever send him the lock?
@ramonrommers53872 жыл бұрын
@@AS-do6pr you a dumb one, aren’t you? It’s a comment about this video
@FerralVideo3 жыл бұрын
Considering one of these to lock my bike. They're relatively affordable for the security level, and throw in a good solid self-looping security chain and we've got something that can rival solutions that cost more, but are less effective.
@mglmouser4 жыл бұрын
Suggestion: During the heat attacks, a clock in the background and perhaps accelerated footage would be great.
@treeguyable3 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how much harder these locks are to pick in thier used environment, especially when they are ridgid, butted against the locked item. Making the lock picker contort into gymnastic positions, and leave no room for grasping, and turning tools, and even for knuckles of the hands in a grasping mode, changes the security rating.
@dahveed2846 жыл бұрын
Maybe they just prototyped it in aluminum due to its relative ease of milling and will also offer a steel version too.
@paclockpres.98056 жыл бұрын
Spot on! We always start aluminum to test the market and then move to hardened steel if the concept looks good. We're going to keep the aluminum body as an option mostly because of the weight savings... for bicycles and motorcycles where carrying a 1lb lock that's pretty darn good versus a 4lb lock that's super strong (but kills your back!) is a good option.
@DonzLockz6 жыл бұрын
PACLOCK PRES. Awesome, that sounds like a good move! 🍺✌
@dechert36022 жыл бұрын
@@paclockpres.9805 I know this is an old video and post but this right here not only shows that PacLock listens to the Lock picking community but also reads the comments of the videos. That, to me, is just as impressive as their locks. I just started on this journey and hope to achieve the 200k Club.
@paclockpres.98052 жыл бұрын
@@dechert3602 Thank you! We'll be having yet another prototype posted onto our KZfaq account within the next few days for comments and testers! And good luck with your 200K Club admissions!!!!
@davidwpinkston42266 жыл бұрын
points for the logo - i thought it would immediately vaporize
@lunarjellyfish55384 жыл бұрын
The logo was made using a laser. The logo would only disappear once all the paint on the lock completely disappeared and the lock became white.
@AwesometownUSA2 жыл бұрын
haha I like how the company colored the lock with diecast blue (which gives off toxic fumes at high temperatures) and then they were like “here you go, by the way do you think you could melt it?” Trying to murder the LPLawyer so he can’t defeat any more of their locks, nicee that’s mad smart
@pyratemage6 жыл бұрын
Cool! I found these in a search a while back and lo and behold BosnianBill and LPL not only review them but PacLock improves them accordingly. Awesome! Yay PacLock and LPL!
@zacharylagler2426 жыл бұрын
merlin308 I have to applaud Paclock for this.
@CFarnwide4 жыл бұрын
Merlin Same here. LPL and BosnianBill really opened my eyes to how vulnerable some lock brands are. After seeing how receptive Paclock has been to suggestions and security I ordered a couple from HD. They will be used for protection and of course... play 😎
@SamanthaLaurier3 жыл бұрын
"A lock I would not hesitate to use" Is there any higher praise? No there is not.
@StonesonExperience2 жыл бұрын
I think there was another negative before that: 19:23 "This isn't a lock I wouldn't hesitate to use". Probably meant to say what you wrote, but it threw me a bit when I heard it.
@daveprice59114 жыл бұрын
"Apparently I'm the guy to go to when you deal with really strange and impractical ways to open locks" Damn you had me rolling with that xD
@vitamins-and-iron8 күн бұрын
where did you roll to
@paneerdog56236 жыл бұрын
Your videos have the absolute best commentary while you are picking the lock. That is the most valuable part for those of us who are trying to improve our skills. Also, your camera is in focus! Bill's videos drive me nuts with his constantly blurry close-ups. Looks like this lock is a good training lock for pickers. Thank you for another great video.
@JasonHenderson5 жыл бұрын
Because bill uses auto-focus and LPL uses manual. "Focus you fack"
@lucasb13243 жыл бұрын
Calm and methodically laid out description, pedagogical and thorough, I like that. Only one thing worries me and that is that "wrong" people who follow you, learn very useful for them. But the rest of us learn what to observe. It's great Thanks for a very good page. Carsten Sweden
@peterwiegel47784 жыл бұрын
The essential difference between the liquid-melted lock body and that of this lock is that an aluminum wrought alloy was used here, as used for the production of extruded semi-finished products. Here the practically melted material at the outlet of the nozzle must have sufficient strength to hold the desired shape. A cast aluminum, on the other hand, has to melt thinly in order to fill even fine structures in a mold. So much for my knowledge of materials science from studying mechanical engineering.
@jackhueman60303 жыл бұрын
What has my life become when I will gladly sit here and watch 7 minutes of silence lock melting simply amazed at the skill this man has
@skipperskipper29364 жыл бұрын
Pack lock Blue one can be super secure with a hardened cup cover bolted from inside door with 1 large hardened bolt. Also that anti hacksaw pin should be hardened and looose so it rolls with hacksaw blade
@johnreid22213 жыл бұрын
Glad to see a company actually putting there product through people that actually know how to pick a lock to improve the tech
@Gkitchens13 жыл бұрын
Your attention to detail and the practice of routine is incredible. You know full well you're about to completely destroy the lock with a torch and make it totally unusable. But you still protect the bottom of the lock from damage dissed by the pick anyway.
@Robertlavigne16 жыл бұрын
It seems like a slide hammer blow or two would pop the pins that hold the shackle in place through that thin layer of aluminum.
@mightyfinejonboy6 жыл бұрын
I like the design that it can be bolted to a surface, and if made from steel and toughened as stated would be a great lock to buy if available in the UK
@ForrestOutman2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how much I enjoy this. I think you cadence and tone as well as knowledge make the pace that sweet spot for information assimilation & entertainment. I'm a big time nerd, so this is my jam. I specialize in ballroom dance history, but we're cut from the same mold of wanting to endlessly learn. This might be our intellectual interface. Thank you, you are my nerdy ASMR.
@mr.e.4366 жыл бұрын
Very informative from a physical sciences AND engineering perspective! Good work!
@ThickpropheT3 жыл бұрын
That American lock looks like it might be cast aluminum. In my experience, cast aluminum is more brittle than it’s barstock counterpart. Given that the PacLock looks milled, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was made of a pretty tough grade aluminum. I wonder tho if you could’ve gotten it open faster by heating further toward the elbow and then prying with some channel locks or vice grips to get better leverage over the needle noses. Very cool stuff +1
@metocvideo3 жыл бұрын
At last a lock company that realises that certain skilled people like LPL can save them thousands of R&D money, and have fun at the same time!
@grosstravis4 жыл бұрын
Nice review. I like your objective approach to this. I don't know if that's the right word but you and Bill both do a great job at quality info / time ratio. Thank you. Portland, ME
@technestudio3 жыл бұрын
I don't even know what to say I am not a lock picker but I just love listening to these videos
@AlbertLebel6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I also hate to see a good lock destroyed, but I believe its ok in the matter of science and learning. This is how we all learn to improve things. I'm proud of PacLock for actually listening to the end user. Thank you for sharing this. Also, great picking LPL always a pleasure to watch you work the pins.
@Wingo5373 жыл бұрын
Why is this so entertaining. I love his soothing voice and calm speaking
@Peverley3 жыл бұрын
the tip 9:55 onwards is the kinda shit that changes your game forever but LPL just drops casually. legend
@soultrap85543 жыл бұрын
The softly spoken lock assassin! Thorough examination as usual. Love this stuff.
@SICresinwrks4 жыл бұрын
I'm absolutely hooked on the channel, LPL is amazing, the skill and knowledge he has is freaking great. I don't even have anything padlocked, but I now know if I do there's plenty I don't buy!
@matt5g3 жыл бұрын
I definitely support this lock, this took a long time for him to pick and hes usually able to get it in like 30 sec-1 min
@cerealkiller55994 жыл бұрын
Great job by PACLOCK. I'm definitely looking for their locks next time I need one for myself
@Riyame6 жыл бұрын
Being made out of aluminum my biggest concern out of those you addressed would be a prying attack. Using a pry bar and leveraging off of the hasp or chain and prying the top you would think it would bend or outright break quite easily. There isn't much material on the bottom of those steel pins that hold the shackle, and even with a thick steel pin inserted into the "neck" of the lock it should still bend quite easily. The sharp corners inside the mouth could also be a weak point. Having them rounded would increase strength.
@the_undead Жыл бұрын
The only way I see practical to damage this lock by leverage attacks would be mitigated if not completely eliminated by that steel rod, unless this is locked to a solid steel door or some other surface hard enough where you could bend the entire lock without damaging the surface that's mounted to. Any lock not made of solid steel is going to be a low security affair so we're talking stuff like fence gates, sheds maybe get a cheap chain and secure your relatively cheap bike to it or similar. Situations where the lock is secure enough that if the thief wants the stuff they're likely just going to take the easy route of say destroying the chain or getting a sledgehammer and just busting through the shed walls or whatever
@ryangriggs57674 жыл бұрын
Good video! Would be interested to see a picking attempt with the lock bolted to a door in real life application.
@THR33STEP6 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with the steel lock body. Even though PacLock installed steel rods in the new design, aluminum is very soft and can be manipulated. A steel lock body would be more expensive but that point is moot if you are securing something valuable. Great video!!
@skate3ronai4263 жыл бұрын
you are able to talk very clearly and it seems like you think about every word that comes out of your mouth before you say it. which makes you very easy to under stand.very well spoken and the best locker picker iv'e ever seen.its crazy how easly you bypass some of those, incredable
@gregtunston51626 жыл бұрын
interesting and very informative as always
@johntheexplainer6 жыл бұрын
I suppose, if you were bolting it to a surface, you could include a 2-3 mm plate of very hardened steel on the outside face to gain a lot of protection with only a little material.
@taintripper_69844 жыл бұрын
I’ve been a “machinist/toolmaker/ mold maker” for well over a decade. I have extensive experience with a multitude of materials. When I hear “it made of steel!”... many questions come to mind. To me steel is butter. What kind of steel? What’s the Rockwell? Yield strength? Why are we still using steel for locks? Is it a cost issue?
@cowmanthe3rd3 жыл бұрын
Steel is relatively easy to shape with the right tools, what else would you make locks out of though? Materials like tungsten or cobalt alloys are too brittle or too expensive, basic titanium is easier to cut than steel aside from the binding issues, and most everything else would be worse in all categories. The only thing I think would be better is properly heat treated beta-ti or 6alv4. At that point, a high toughness tool steel with a proper heat treat is still going to be better though, and cheaper as well. To excuse anything I'm missing though, most of my experience comes from bladesmithing and not from a general material science standpoint.
@danielroglich33094 жыл бұрын
Great video brother. I agree with your observations, this lock definitely dispersed the heat better than the 1100 preventing it from getting hot enough to melt aluminum under those pins in the same way as the other lock. Thanks for the review!
@SwiftCreationStudio3 жыл бұрын
I love that lock you melted, it looks perfectly fine from the front and when you turn it not so much lol
@ben_jammin2423 жыл бұрын
The craziest thing for me is how a team of dedicated professionals will do their best, yet time and time again, heros, the likes of LPL and Bosnian Bill will just put them to shame... thanks so much for the content. It's super interesting, got me into lockpicking, and its performing an invaluable service the lockpicking community as a whole. You guys rock!
@DonzLockz6 жыл бұрын
Another painful but useful procedure. I guess all cars complete crash tests with dummies...maybe LPL was that dummy! Hehe.😜Kidding of course.😊 Some good points raised and a thorough review as usual. The body fared much better than I thought it would, maybe because it has magnesium & silicon in it and it is weldable, otherwise the welding process would destroy itself, so a good trait to have to slow down torch attacks also.🍺✌
@jayeff3374 жыл бұрын
Hey there @LockPickingLawyer , awesome video! It was entertaining and I enjoy how you describe as you go. That is very helpful to me, as an in-training locksmith, to watch your hands work, where you're at within the pick and the action happening. I think you're great at what you do and your videos are awesome. I'm pretty familiar in the destructive opening techniques and have background on construction, structures and support and if I may just share my opinion. If the idea of the video was more for presentation during the destruction, then the already unlikely of ability to destroy this lock in this manner, then that's no problem. I guess what I mean is that in order to properly make an attempt such as this or similar "attack openings" would be to do in in real world situations. My example would be like if you were really trying to get whatever this lock was supposed to be protecting, perhaps the time it would realistically take to get into any lock, just out in the world, plus the determination and tools of the potential thief. By about 2.5 minutes into the demonstration, I think that the red-hot steel could possibly have been pried and essentially reshaped it's locking ability into the block of also steel pins, it could have popped, potentially. Personally, having the mostly common knowledge of hottest burning portable torch and gas setups, I think the yellow map gas can, from an above angle and the position of the torches flame, I think the lock might have opened in a fraction of the time. Of course I'm not intending to insult your work, but coming from my knowledge and background, desperation can make any lock openable. I think that if the company of the lock was relatively confident in its core's ability to seem the biggest hassle, they should look to have a real-world torture test done, perhaps also as a review. With that said, I really enjoy your work and I hope that we continue to improve our ability to protect ourselves and thanks to people like you and @Bosnianbill ,we might just get there one day. Thank you!
@eskimberly74243 жыл бұрын
I’m impressed with how long this lock took to even soften to the point where LPL was able to bend the metal back.
@HighlyRegardted4 жыл бұрын
When he’s picking it reminds me of my dentist checking my gum line ...
@moderatefkr66666 жыл бұрын
Nice vid LPL. A few observations: Firstly, don't believe you're not concentrating the hottest part of the flame on the target area. The end is usually hottest. You appear to be playing the flame primarily onto the steel shackle because it was clearly heating up first. Not sure that's the best ploy here. The steel shackle was obviously going to dissipate the heat from whichever area you concentrated the flame upon. But I'm not convinced heating it up first advanced your attack in any useful way. The target however was the pins. Therefore I would have directed the hotter END of the flame at each side of the bar containing the pins, swapping over once one side had melted. And I believe it would had you done so. I might even shield the shackle to direct more heat onto the aluminium. Yep, I'm a Brit aircraft engineer. Otherwise, this is an inspiring vid. I'm currently working on a motorcycle security lock design, so yours and Bill's work is very very valuable. Thank you. Aluminium seems on the face of it to be a shit material for a lock. But this one proves we shouldn't fully rule it out. And where weight is an issue (as in a bike scenario), it's well worth considering, but only if the inherent vulnerabilities of the materisl's characteristics can be overcome. I'm working on this, though every viable solution turns out to be very expensive. PSWas the American lock thinner cast aluminum? That might also explain why it melted more easily.
@another-person-on-youtube3 жыл бұрын
I only just noticed what your logo is, and I love the symbolism.
@misty7220 Жыл бұрын
I love that not only is your favourite colour blue (obvs the best colour), but you have a favourite shade too! 💙
@Welcome2TheInternet5 жыл бұрын
close your eyes and listen to his voice: the holographic doctor from Star Trek is teaching you how to pick locks. you can't unhear it.
@davidgriffiths22236 жыл бұрын
Would love to see how this aluminum lock would handle an encounter with gallium. Should be able to sand the anodizing off, put a good dollop of gallium on - wait a couple of days for it to “soak in”, then just tear the aluminum apart almost with your fingers.
@lockpickinglawyer6 жыл бұрын
Stay tuned. 😉
@hireahitCA5 жыл бұрын
This was my first thought watching the video... Now I need to hunt down how that went. I have a bit of gallium kicking around just in case a situation arises where it would be useful.
@markfickett25915 жыл бұрын
LPL's followup: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oMuXm6qZu8rYaac.html Someone else's video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oZ9hbMlots-Ylac.html (faster and more dramatic, but makes me appreciate that LPL doesn't add soundtracks).
@shrikedecil5 жыл бұрын
The white hot from the steel while no light from the aluminum is confirmation of what you were saying about temperatures. That aluminum is wicking that heat away phenomenally.
@djmariomar4 жыл бұрын
the speed of your picking is just so unreal...I hope to get there one day! #inspiration
@jkdog32424 жыл бұрын
I love the way LPL and other members of the locksport community interact with these companies to try to produce the most efficient locks possible. It's really cool seeing the companies humbly take their advice
@richardcampbell24386 жыл бұрын
Here is my thought on another low tech defeat: The outboard retaining pin is a weak spot. I noticed that as you removed the weakened tip, that the top of the lock body has hollow spaces in it. If the aluminum has not been annealed and is brittle, you might try skipping part one and go straight to part two without any cutting needed. If so, a big plus is that part two is soundless except for the final snap Part one: Using a hack/sabre/ jewellers saw or dremel make a 1mm cut between the shackle and the outboard pin on three sides (4 sides if you can)- Tip: I would try using a jewellers saw first, threading it in behind the affixed side if possible and just garrotte in a 1mm deep cut. If time is not pressing, the jewellers saw could just cut off the whole tip. Part two, if needed, using a makeshift screw-jack: If you can not get through on four sides, take a piece of hardened screw rod the length of the shackle gap and put two deep nuts threaded on to that rod. Knurl a pattern into the outward faces of two heavy flat washers to give them bite into the aluminum and place them outwards of the nuts. Place the rod, nuts, and washers inside the gap just outside of the cuts made and force the nuts away from each other with two opposing ratcheted box wrenches. This pressure should cause the cut points to expand, shear, and the top of the body tear open at the retaining pin. You might need a second, slightly longer screw piece if the aluminium bends to much before reaching the breaking point I think that a second steel pin (or plate/wafer) should be inserted the entire width of the lock (as was done down the side in model 2) above the two retaining pins, if there is enough metal above the top of the shackle's tip to prevent my defeat. I would also not mill out any unnecessary voids in the top of the lock body.
@the_undead Жыл бұрын
From what I can tell these are made of solid aluminum bar stock so they're only machining what they need to because that's the cheapest option
@Patmanduu4 жыл бұрын
What a clever way to implement customer feedback and gain priceless marketing all for the cost of a single lock. Much smarter than companies pouring untold amounts into KZfaq ads that I always skip, and I suspect most people do too. I will look to PacLock for my next lock.
@jacobfleetwood43142 жыл бұрын
binge watching your videos today ✌😁 about to try and pick every lock i can find in my house lol
@JohnKirsopp3 жыл бұрын
"I'm going to melt it. Here's how to keep it pristine while picking, before I do that."
@DrEtzor3 жыл бұрын
"So uh, we sent you a blue lock, right?" "Yes" "Why did we receive a brown and broken one now?" "..." "Well?" "This is The Lock Picking Lawyer..."
@wom_Bat2 жыл бұрын
I love how you also consider economics of the design.
@Freeak65 жыл бұрын
I like how you put the tension wrench to avoid making a dent on the padlock........before you torch it !!! :D
@jacobsanders42543 жыл бұрын
A 26 minute lpl video. This has to be good.
@RobBulmahn6 жыл бұрын
Totally missed the opportunity to turn the melting vid into an old-timey silent movie.
@gary_rumain_you_peons6 жыл бұрын
You mean play it at a faster speed with a pianola proving accompaniment?
Hello LPL, I really enjoy watching your videos but I would like to offer a couple of suggestions on this one, 1) an oxyacetylene torch would probably cut though the top of this lock in a few seconds, a plummer's torch by comparison is quite a mild heat, 2) as the lock is laid down in the vice a proportion of the heat is being transferred into the vice too quickly, my suggestion is to stand the lock up so only the bottom bit is located in the vice and therefore the heat has further to travel to the vice thereby keeping more of the heat at the top of the lock.
@user-yx7bx8xf8r6 ай бұрын
My compliments to the designers, they knew that that had some good ideas, they avoided reinventing the wheel and decided to bring in other recognised experts in to get their opinions. I very much respect their attitude.
@ruben-xt8hm4 жыл бұрын
Imagine he gets arrested and while he's in the car all the cops just hear "a nice click out of 1, click on 2..." and he rips off the handcuffs
@barrybear55732 жыл бұрын
Feeding my theory that he’s lawyer by day, hitman by night, KZfaqr by hobby.
@ArchangelExile3 жыл бұрын
19:23 LPL: And this isn't a lock that I would not hesitate to use. So, you _would_ hesitate to use it? 🤣
@KineticManiac3 жыл бұрын
I think he actually said "This IS a lock I would not hesitate to use." But he stuttered a bit at "is". The stutter made it sound like he was saying "isn't".
@sydneygorelick748411 ай бұрын
Wow! After seeing you just blast straight through so many locks, it's really impressive you had to actually pick this one, and go back and forth a few times at that! A real test of skill, and a signifier of how pick-resistant it would actually be to a petty thief with only a wave rake or jiggler! Definitely means that your storage shed would be left alone in favor of the neighbor's with a master lock 😂
@Order46276 ай бұрын
The cast iron vice ended up being a Heat Sink and sucked away all the heat from the alloy padlock. I have found through experience that It’s a good technique to use when welding cast iron as it keeps the welding area cooler when you can draw the heat away like this.. Great video.
@silverargentum37585 жыл бұрын
what about applying tension on the top part of the lock while heating it up to brute force it open? that technique could drastically cut down on the amount of time needed to force it open...
@KanzakiZD4 жыл бұрын
"so let's take a look at this lock" *zooms out*
@Nathan0A3 жыл бұрын
All you need is a gram or two of gallium and some patience, no lockpicking skills required! Also @13:24, you have *very* nice drawer slides.... That sound makes me melt
@123321danny1233212 жыл бұрын
I love to see that in each and every video of LPL's, the comment section is always so positive. Keep doin your thing sir.
@dude_stynkstynkfyst91704 жыл бұрын
Does having it firmly in the vice just turn the vice into a huge heatsink for the lock? Saw a diff video where you hung a lock and melted the alum body and zinc innards.
@Soandnb5 жыл бұрын
You say it's Aluminum? Would it be susceptible to a Gallium attack?
@deidyomega5 жыл бұрын
if you have 5 hours... you see how thick that thing is?
@Coderjo.5 жыл бұрын
You only need to attack the pins that hold the shackle in, though, which is where he was attacking with the torch.
@Sparks525 жыл бұрын
This was my thought, starting around the pins above at the top.
@SparkY05 жыл бұрын
Or mercury?
@Sparks525 жыл бұрын
@@SparkY0 Would certainly create an Aluminum amalgam that would fail if (as with Gallium) the surface were scratched, but would inherently be much more hazardous to handle and dispose of afterward. By comparison, Gallium is benign.
@allenshepard79926 жыл бұрын
When you said "Aluminum" I wrote the lock off. However, the "heat sink" and heat dissipation impressed me. Seven min is a good time. The security pins are good. Thanks for the analysis. Hope you get another one with your logo. While not an endorsement, your video changed my mind.
@Luxe3885 жыл бұрын
After reading this comment all I can think about is He said,"aluminum" the lock is bad change my mind
@RimWulf6 жыл бұрын
I thought I saw that lock design, then you mentioned Bill taking a backsaw to it, then the dots were connecting. Anyway it would be harder to pick if you have it adhered to the door is something.
@texpatriot84626 жыл бұрын
Building on another comment, I think they could offer higher security variant by simply mounting armor plates to the lock body utilizing those four mounting holes.
@lockpickinglawyer6 жыл бұрын
Interesting thought... there are a whole bunch of armored shutter locks featured on my channel. They are popular in Europe, particularly Italy. The purpose of them is add security to corrosion resistant brass locks. Unfortunately, the added complexity makes them pretty pricy.
@jd165965 жыл бұрын
PacLock Block lock Smokin' on cookie in the hotbox
@breached72889 ай бұрын
Wow awesome lock for just you. That is really cool.
@Mister66 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I agree with your suggestion that the size of the lock helped dissipate the heat, I would suggest that the massive shackle (not to mention the lock body itself) would further have an impact there since I believe that both brass and steel are more conductive than aluminium so you would have had to get them both near to the melting point of the body before it would start to melt