6.4 engine... Very dependable boat anchor...

Bill, my boss drives an 08 F250 6.4L and after watching this video, I told him about this particular problem after he mentioned to me his regen was kicking in more and more. I'm extending his thanks to you because you saved his pocketbook from taking a tremendous hit. When they pulled off the canister, they said it reminded them of thick frost that builds up in old style freezers. A few hundred dollar baking treatment is far better than a 12k motor.

This guy is interesting. NO B.S., just says it like it is....Subscribed.

Government bureaucracy causing cuntery once again.

I smiled as I watched this, knowing the outcome. No matter it be GM, Ford, or Dodge we gave up on these little pickup truck based diesel chassis for fleet units long ago. They all were just too expensive to buy outright, they had to be meticulously maintained or they would grenade themselves, they were too difficult and costly to repair even when we found people willing and competent enough to do so, and all of them ended up virtually worthless pieces of junk at 250-300k miles. We went to real class 6 and 7 chassis- they don’t cost that much more to buy new, they just need normal maintenance, repairs are much easier to perform and much less frequent equaling less costly, they last 400-500k miles or more easily, and they still have some residual value at the end of that. Pain over.

It amazes me that you recommend these trucks with how many fails you see every day.

Yessir. I have four broken 6.4s sitting here waiting for approval right now.

First off I love your vids.I also love powerstrokes ever since my parents bought a 2008 6.4 .I've been looking for a new truck for a while now and your videos have been a huge help. I loved their 6.4 especially after they went with the straight pipe and "off-road" tuning. However I was almost sure I was going with a 6.0 because of the problems with the 6.4 and the cost of the 6.7 This video has helped me decide that the 6.4 properly maintained and with the correct modifications is the way to go.

Everybody loves Spot! I hope you'll keep posting updates about your 6.4 and the 6.7.

I just purchased a 2010 6.4 with 190,000km. I knew I was going to do something like what you had said, but you video just confirmed even more that I should remove the DPF. Awesome vid. Thanks for that advice.

It is actually best to keep the EGR intact because it acts as an waste gate for turbo overspool. I have seen several 6.4s with broken turbo shafts with the EGR delete.

DPF. Your government at work!

08 Powerstroke, I'm running the Kem 345 set up. Not necessarily the balls out 345. But I take everything this man says into account any time I'm about to do something to this truck. This man is the shit! Appreciate all you do buddy. all you gotta do is listen to him and follow his advice.

I did a DPF Delete and used a H & S tuner. I tried just about every position available on that tuner and while I got a little more mileage with the hot setting, I dropped it back down to no added power because I tended to want to put my foot in it and blow everybody's doors off. Right now it only has about 50 to 80 added horses because the DPF is out, get 21 mpg (was 14.5-15.5) and runns better than it did when it was brand new.

This man is telling the absolute truth. Pretty much the same had happened here. Oil light went on - oil levels were low. After inspection it was discovered the turbo was on the verge of going bad, and had to be repaired already. Sometime later - the injector went bad. Fortunately, the turbo guy informed about this problem, which was clogged catalytic converter, which was was the initial cause of turbo and injector problems. The solution was pretty much the same as suggested in this video: since this particular one came without DPF so only the catalytic converter was replaced with pipe - resonator. Thanks to the speaker in this video. This problem can occur with any truck, or any diesel vehicle! Over here it is 2.0 D4D Toyota.

I work with a bunch of line men, they idle all day which means lots of regen cycles, one truck of theirs has 60 thousand miles, with three motors so far...

I really enjoy watching these videos. Your a very professional and knowledgable guy. I would bring my diesel to you in a heartbeat reguardless of price. Keep up the excellent work. I work at a Honda dealer but have always loved Diesel engines. Might be time to learn more about diesel trucks/engines. Keep up the great videos. I look foward to viewing them!

LOVE the videos!!!!!!!! A friend told me about them a few days ago and its all i been doing with my time home after work. Straight to computer to watch more!! Keep them up and if your ever interested in having an apprentice in the future id love to do it!!!! At the moment i live in canada and am in the army, Keep up the amazing videos!!!!!!!

I don't even have a powerstroke or live in the States, but I do enjoy your videos. We had a few DPF issue on our sprinter van fleet but these were run hard non stop across Europe, only being off for the 30minute UK/France tunnel crossing. We killed 3, all at 200,000. The DPF warning light was always coming on.towards the end.

thanks for all the info and the great videos they have really helped. keep them rolling.

Thank you! By the way all of your videos are an absolute blessing to us DIY mechanics out here!

Cores really only apply to starters and alternators. Mostly it just ends up at the scrap yard when I get sick of tripping over it all.

Love your videos man!! I'm looking for a 6.0 powerstroke and know what to look for thanks to you!

Buford, GA a good 2500 miles from the nearest redwood tree.

excellent advice thanks much... I'm looking forward and taking my truck so you can work on it.

My friend has one of those trucks. And instead removing the DPF, he drilled a 1 inch hole in the exhaust pipe (just before the CAT and DPF) and welded on a 1x1 inch pipe with a type of "BREAK AWAY PLUG". the "Plug" it self works just like a radiator cap; when the pressure builds and somethings gotta give, it pops open and vents it out in the air. And i know it works because it poped open last month on the highway. When we removed & inspected the DPF, it was clogged. But the motor had been saved.

Hey Bill, I did the programmer like you suggested and also did an exaust job, that worked out great. But the other day I installed an Air Dog II and that was the ICING on the cake. I don't know if my 6.4 is putting 600 horses to the ground like they say, but it sure is an amazing piece of equipment now. Don't know if you support the Air Dog II, but its makin a difference. I think I even gained a couple more mpg's after I put it on.

Like your straightforward no b.s. videos. I've deleted the dpf and egr and just spent 3 Saturdays of pure hell putting a water pump in the damn thing. The only thing that scares me is talk about it being a throw away motor and catastrophic failures as low as 160,000 miles. I'm at 105,000 now do you suggest I sell my truck. It's definitely not cheap or easy to work on and I really wanted to get 500,000 miles out of it. I also run a spartan 310 tune on which I'm sure can't be good for it either.

removal of the dpf will generally void the warranty. not always but most times. it depends on the attitudes of a particular dealership toward modifications.

very informative. This should be required material for anyone that wants a Ford Diesel. Keep it up!

I just did a complete straight pipe system in my 6.4. next is the egr delete. Right now my truck is getting 23 mpg and almost 500 hp with the tuner. dpf delete is the way to go!!

I am glad I found your channel. I own a new 2012 F-350 6.7, and I am wondering if they may have the same DPF problems as the 6.4. I tow a 38ft. toyhauler that's 12k dry, so my truck gets used.

Some exhaust valve issues in heavy pulling F450s but other than that it seems to be a good power plant.

DPF delete + EGR delete + Tuning + EDAS = reliable Powerstroke. love these videos Bill, more please!!

Back in the 70's, the company that I worked for, had a brand new GMC 1 Ton Pickup, with a 557 Gas engine, and Atlas-Chalmers automatic, with only 1000 miles (or so), self-destruct on the highway. Just cruising along at the speed limit of 60 mph, when BANG the whole front half of the engine block exited the truck through the radiator onto the highway. Took almost a half mile to stop, as steering and brakes left with the engine. The main crank had a spiral fracture at a main journal that split the block at that point. Best news - ALL under warranty!

Tanks again for all the great videos!

Bill, I have a 2009 6.4 - I have made all your recommended changes from Arch Oil to the radiator cap. I have the H&S Tuner on it and only use the tow and street modes and I NEVER use the performance mode (I have no use for that mode). I don't beat on my truck and take good care of it. My main concern is the tuner after watching some of your other videos. I watched your video on the 6.7 motor that failed b/c of the tuner. Is the scenario apples to oranges between the 6.4 & the 6.7 or is it a genuine concern? Thanks.

hey I love the videos! I am considering a 6.4. I am wondering what are some problems that I should look out for? Thanks!

Thanks for the video, but if it was running good before you fixed the turbo, how come you didn't spot the possible dpf issue before engine failure?

In California you will not be able to delete. I'd keep an eye on how often the truck regens and make sure that DPF stays clean and in good working order. There is DPF on tuning available in the market that will help.

Yes and no. Not every one wants to remove the filter, but there is tuning even with the filter that can help tremendously with power and fuel economy.

I really wish I’d heard this 2 weeks ago.. because now my 6.4 dually is n da shop. Just ordered a new small block. Wt.. hell. Really makes me miss my ole 7.3 that was stolen out my driveway. Actually pisses me off.. knowing I could of punched out the exhaust just like I did my ole’ Triumphs choppers. Now I’m really annoyed @ myself. Thanks 4 the video. I’ll fix it, the exhaust when I get it back w/the new engine rebuild. Just a Sad day n my life. ☮️❤️y’all.

I have an f450 that use to be a 6.0 truck. Now its rocking a 120k mile 05 cummins with stock tuning and a 6 speed 68rfe from a 6.7 cummins. It pulls awesome. I know mr bill doesn't like the cummins swap thing but mine is super clean. I wanted it to look as oem as possible and spent close to $30k to do it.

Changing out the DPF seems like a good option every so often even if it's expensive. I'm getting 22mpg on my 2010 6.4 with it as it came freom the factory but you have to do some long drives not towing anything to get the REGEN to clean it. I was getting 18mpg for a while till I went on a few 1000 mile trips and now I get 22mpg. That's the best MPG since Ive owned it. Also, it runs best at 70 MPH but in California (where I live) you can only tow at 60.

excellent rundown on why the DPF is a main culprit in the death of the 6.4L powerstroke.

I think you're right but it was a lease fleet so the view was it's not our problem. We found if the DPF light stays on too long on the sprinters the ECU jumps to a limp mode to try and protect the engine. But our drivers found if you switch the ignition off and on again this would disable for 30mins so just did that! Got them back to base and the job done, just glad we didn't cover the repair bill! Thanks for the reply

This guy knows what he’s talking about. Well done

Thanks for the videos, i've watched them all!

Glad to see the new vid. Love learning about the ford diesels as I do love fords

What about the Bullydog Performance DPF filters?

Thanks for the informative knowledge. Im about to purchase an ‘08 F450 dually fully built motor bulletproof the whole 9 yards.

Dang you are the man!!! i love these vids!! i dont understand why they think we need to do a regen cycle to burn the soot that gets caught? maybe you could do a vid on why diesels need a regen cycle for the soot.. thanks much!

that is correct. The EPS emissions spec for 2013 is that they must make 1/100th the emissionsof a truck from 10 years ago. That is a huge, huge deal. Even with the DPF off the 6.4, I would guess just through good fuel management it still has to 50% cleaner than a 7.3.

Hi I would like to know What you think about the bully dog 7000 after market dpf that is being sold up here in Canada? Good video by the way!

Bill my dab has a 6.7 Ford he uses to feed cattle the dpf clogged up. I want to tack the inside of the dpf out. What would be a good programmer to use?

All DPFs are problematic by their very nature, but the good news is that the SCR Selective Catalyst Reduction plays a huge role in helping the DPF last longer.

What would be some of the major problems/signs to look for in the 6.4 market. I remember your 7.3 buyer video and would like to see a 6.4 buyers guide type video.

I currently have a 02 powerstroke, and I love it. But as you said it is a dinosaur in a new world. I have been looking at the new 6.4 trucks, I rode in a Tuned/egr deleted 6.4, w 8in lift and 40in tires - 6 months later i seen it in a local shop getting a built transmission in it. I watched your how to purchase a 7.3 video before i bought my 7.3, do you have some recommendations for the 6.4? How do the transmissions hold up to the extra power of the tuners if you don't beat the snot out of it?

Bill, What did you do to the EGR coolers and valve? Removal? I left mine intact but "disabled" via Spartan tune. Should I remove them or leave them on?

Like a scalded dog. Which tune do you like for the street. Im currently running 275 low stall and its a bit hairy in traffic.

Doesn't the EGR system also have to be adjusted or modified? I read the DPF and EGR work in harmony.

I have a Ford LCF 4.5 power-stroke. It regens the same way the 6.4 does. I’ve had to replace the turbo when the seals failed as well. I’ve even thought about hollowing our the DPF and letting it just be an empty can. Will this throw a check engine light? Or will the truck just think everything is good because there won’t ever be any back pressure. No one sells a tuning program for the 4.5 power stroke because they never made that many of these trucks.

you made another video about the "clutch pedal fix" I would like to know where you got that adapter for the pedal... thanks

We have two shop trucks that are 6.0. The silver bullet that my son drives is a 2004 f250 2wd reg cab long bed. The thing is blistery fast IF you can get traction.

I'm looking into buying a 6.4 diesel. I've driven an 08 f-350 dually for about 4 months towing heavy machinery for work. I've never loved a truck more, the power the ride and the comfortably are unmatchable. I definitely think im going to buy one, i will be using it as a daily driver and it will see no work and light towing from time to time. My question to you is what should i do to make this truck bulletproof and reliable?

So what about fixing the exhaust issue along with turbo instead to replacing turbo only and having the failure? I am asking because I am not sure if this could have prevented.

Thanks you so much for this video I have a 2008 f250 with 57000 miles when should I deal with the dpf .should I tune it or what please help.

Any time you mess with the DPF it requires tuning.

I just bought a 2009 F250 6.4l and watching your video has inspired me to gut out my DPF. My question is once I do this is what did you mean by reprogramming the truck? Did you mean with a tuner or something to erase the code(s). I don't want a tuner in my truck. New to the Ford diesel. I've owned a couple of Dodge 5.9's before and decided to try out a Ford this time. Either way I like my new truck and want to keep it for a while. Thanks for video and educating me on my new journey!

Great video. 2008 F350, and the display has been stuck on "cleaning exhaust filter" for 2 weeks. I just recently drove on a 2 hour trip and that did not clear it up. Now inthe past week it is starting to smoke bad after about 15-20 minutes of driving, smokes for about 5 minutes then stops. I was going to do the delete, but now maybe just gut the DPF and leave it on. If I do that, what tuner would you recommend? Thanks

Will you be doing any kind of videos on how to gut a DPF? I live in an emissions controlled area. I have a '99 No Cat 7.3 and love the truck, but have been thinking of buying an additional newer one. Now you also said that the main point of the gut is that the can would still be there. Do you have any insight about when "smogging" time comes around? Will I have to buy an additional DPF and retune the truck every two years? Great videos by the way.

Hey Bill I have a 09 F350 .6.4 Just turned over100,000 the other day and was heading up a hill last night and truck shut down on me , oil indicator light came on . I checked oil and it seemed to be fine. Got it started again and made it less than an 1/8 of a mile when it died again. .thankfully made it to a gas station and let it sit for awhile .I tried starting it one more time , it wouldnt start this time at all . this time along with oil can light ,a key and lock indicator light came on also?

Bill I have a question: ok how the hell do I take out the filter of the exhaust ? With a jackhammer?

Thanks for the video my quietion is why does my 2008 f250 when it goes into regen mode I feal that it losses some power only when it goes in to that cleaning exsauht filter.

Yep Spot is on the road to get a truck from South Georgia right now.

Yep i should have mentioned scorched bearings from lack of lubrication due to excessive regen.

i just got threw doing a dpf delete, 5in exhaust, egr delete, s and b intake, and spartan tuner. Is there anything else you would recommend doing? Also what are your thoughts about the spartan tuner, I'm not getting the fuel milage i thought i would. My buddy had an sct on his dually and was getting 21. Im getting 16.5. What tune do you recommend most on spartan for best fuel milage. Thank you for your time and videos. i enjoy watching.

Why don't they use ceria oxyde to regen the DPF ? Are there pressure sensors upstream and downstream the DPF to prevent clogged DPF ?

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IT depends on usage but I would consider cleaning it at 100k. Most Navistar dealers have a machine that can do it for $350 if you remove it and take it to then.

I honestly dont know. I think that both engines use a separate injector in the exhaust system to achieve the same goal. I may be wrong but either way they will still use less fuel with the systems turned off.

DPF deleted and Spartan tuned my 6.4L and it runs great.

Very good information. Thanks for the video

I only run the 210 for daily driving, and the 150 for towing to keep my stock clutch happy. Runnin' the rare read headed step child ZF6 unit. When I loaded the looney toon the clutch was not happy.

Love ya work mate.

Bill, do you still have 'spot'? Another good, informative video. Thanks!

I split my driving between Spot the shop truck a 2000 7.3L with 867,000 miles and my 2010 F250 that I bought as a roll over and fixed.

This guy is a fuckin wizard explained my truck to a t just deleted an tuned an I love it

All diesel owners Step 1 EGR delete Step 2 DPF delete

My dad has a 6.4L powerstroke and it was egr deleted, dpf deleted, tuned, and had a cold air intake and it lasted 800,000 miles before he got rid of it. I’m not even a ford guy and I like the 6.4L! I prefer the Dodge Cummins.

Another awesome video.

Yep, that's exactly what I plan on doing is gutting an extra DPF and Cat I have for this purpose and install it in place of my stock system with tuning.I will keep my stock DPF and Cat intact in case I have to switch it back.The turbos already were replaced on my truck under warranty from most likely being cooked by high regen temps.My warranty has just expired,so now this will be the best thing I can do for my 6.4L truck!

Great info. Love the video

Flow wise how much better is gutting vs putting in a delete pipe or a full on straight pip? thanks

no the DPF will get to a point where it will clog and cannot be cleaned by the standard method. Some of the big truck shops like Navistar and Freightliner have a machine that will heat up and clean a DPF, but you have to remove it and take it to them.

Hey Bill, I have some questions that I guarantee you will know the perfect answer too. First, I have a buddy the has an F350 with the 6.4 liter engine, a couple weeks ago it started to spit fire out the exhaust, yes I said FIRE. Do you know what would cause this and how much it would cost to fix it? Second, if the fire problem necessitates a new engine, my buddy is wanting to exchange the 6.4 with the new 6.7 liter engines, would you be able to do this and if so, how much would it cost?

I just purchased a 2010 ford f350 with 43,000 miles on it . It still has warranty from ford I do not tow or run the truck strong. should i remove the dpf now or after the warranty has expired ?

Hi Bill, I live in the center of eco-ville...better known as California. I drive my 08 6.4 (20000 miles odo) 6 miles round trip to work 3 days a week and occasionally tow a travel trailer on trips (4x a year max) am I endangering my DPF by using it so little? It seems like it doesnt regen a whole lot. If it tries to regen on a short trip I usually hop on the freeway and let it do it's thing. Since day 1 I have really worried about DPF problems though.

Bill, do you know if the dpf's are causing the same problems in your video to the dodge and gm trucks?

Bill would it be possable for you to program into the PCM a hydrocarbon injector for the DPF? like have a small injector that has 40-65 psi of pressure upstream from the dfp, rather then the late post injection, just wondering if that would help this issue at all, the turbo wouldnt see all the heat but the backpressure issue might come up and i hope ford has a clean exaust message on there ipc.