6.5 Grendel 123gr sst vs. 120gr gold dot w/ ballistics gel

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Head to head comparison of performance between the hornady 123g SST bullet and the Speer 120g gold dot bullet in clear ballistics gel.
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@nicroberts8587 3 жыл бұрын

Calm Collective straight to the point not overwhelming simple 1v1 test thumbs up this video for sure

@brutalbob3982 3 жыл бұрын

Have used Gold Dots myself in that caliber with excellent results, especially on quartering shots. Michigan deer 150-165lbs. dressed.

@joshuamoyer8755 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve killed three good sized Montanan Mule deer bucks with my 6.5 Grendel with the SST out of 16” barrel. Kills between 150 and 300 yards. I’ve always been keeping an eye out for a better bullet and I’ve noticed the SST’s having a lot of fragmentation. Good video.

@timmothyheroux Жыл бұрын

Excellent review with real world application considerations.

@jamespollard1670 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks , I was looking for a comparison on these two bullets .

@Swampytheroot 2 жыл бұрын

I just got a few dozen custom 120 Gold Dot loads from a guy in SC I found on Gunbroker. Can't wait to wring those out!

@jimbo3615 2 жыл бұрын

I’m with you on the exit wounds. Two holes always bleed better than one. And with that expansion on the gold dot, The exit wound hole should be fairly large!

@metubewot 3 жыл бұрын

Another Buffalo fan. I feel like I'm a gangster or something. "Hi, Buffalo sent me". Subscribed.

@thegundungeon 3 жыл бұрын

Kentucky mafia lol

@amo757 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent test, thanks.

@guardianminifarm8005 3 жыл бұрын

Both are really good. Both viable whitetail. But good choice on Gold Dot.

@chadmcswain5389 2 жыл бұрын

The problem I've had with the gold dots in 6.5 Grendel Federal Fusion is they shoot straight through deer like a FMJ and just don't open up enough. It's rare that I get a good blood trail with them either. I've talk to a lot of people who are doing depredation work with the Grendel and they say the Hornady Black ELD-M is the ticket. They say it sticks together better than a SST, but will still fully penetrate while opening up a decent enough wound channel to cause a blood trail......

@robbrown3606 2 жыл бұрын

We've killed nine with SST. Always exit including going through shoulder blades. It is a soft bullet, but 123gr leaves plenty after expansion to make it out.

@buffalosoutdoors 3 жыл бұрын

Good video. I enjoyed it. It's good to see hunting bullets in gel!

@thegundungeon 3 жыл бұрын

Thank ya. I’m flattered to have a real guntuber comment lol

@buffalosoutdoors 3 жыл бұрын

@@thegundungeon What's weird is I actually have a 6.5 Grendal upper on the way. It shipped today.

@thegundungeon 3 жыл бұрын

You’ll love it. Quickly became one of my favorite rounds for the AR 15 platform. Especially fun to reload for.

@SuperFonzy73 3 жыл бұрын

Am here because Buffalo told me to... and subscribed.

@thegundungeon 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Buffalo is a top notch guy!

@mitchculpepper738 3 жыл бұрын

Having shot deer with both it’s hard to pick a winner. I hand load these to over 2,550 out of 20” barrel. The SST does blow up and come apart but the Gold dot penetrates much better. Shot a doe quartering towards me at 100 yards with Gold dot, entered between brisket and shoulder and exited through last rib opposite side, small exit hole 3/4” 120 lb. doe, over 18 inches penetration. Doe traveled 60 yards with little blood trail. The SST was broad side 80 yard heart shot, DRT, small exit hole, liquified lungs and top of heart. I like the SST, god accuracy, expansion, explosion but for larger deer, elk, I’d go with the Gold dot. Yes I’d be comfortable shooting elk with that much penetration, expansion.

@roosterfish3248 3 жыл бұрын

Mitch, I hunt hogs in Louisiana, and have used the 6.5 grendel a lot. My experience duplicates yours. Both of these rounds are excellent, as is the 120 sierra pro hunter. The sst may not be as good as the other 2 for quartering shots, but is devastating on broadside side shots. I use an 18 inch barrel.

@AnarchAngel1 2 жыл бұрын

I use a 20" gun and I've found ELD-Ms to be very effective. They are very devastating for a "match" bullet. All of the deer I've taken were fairly ideal broadside shots. Got exits but it's pretty clear that bullet comes apart quite violently

@ferret19731 3 жыл бұрын

Both work perfectly for deer. An argument for each round could go either way, penetrating vs fast spending, but in the end, it all comes down to more confidence. If you're lacking confidence your ammo won't perform, it can easily affect shot performance.

@thegundungeon 3 жыл бұрын

You are very right! Both are very effective, the only reason I’m siding with the gold dot is that little bit more of an ability to exit, and where I hunt, the terrain requires a good blood trail lol.

@ferret19731 3 жыл бұрын

@@thegundungeon I just did my own "test" with the Hornady SST. 230 yards, quartering towards me. Entrance wound just nicked the front of the forward shoulder, ⅝ exit wound in the opposite front arm pit, took it the top of the heart, without hitting any bone. Deer only traveled 40 feet.

@thegundungeon 3 жыл бұрын

@@ferret19731 that’s fantastic! Congratulations on the deer!

@ferret19731 3 жыл бұрын

Update, I hit ribs both on entrance, and exit and still left the exit hole. I was actually shocked seeing that while processing. I'd of thought I'd passed through the ribs. Also, the entrance shoulder side had more damage than the exit side shoulder. I'm starting to think the SST is a little too devastating, even at 200 + yards.

@thegundungeon 3 жыл бұрын

@@ferret19731 I think they definitely get the job done, you just may or may not get an exit consistently. That’s just my opinion of course. I’d love to see field reports of the gold dots.

@ponthis1 3 жыл бұрын

that exit does make the difference. great video! hope ya get/got a freezer full!

@thegundungeon 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, unfortunately the coyotes put a hurting on the deer season for me, however I’ll be using this Grendel to thin those down this winter!

@ponthis1 3 жыл бұрын

@@thegundungeon we might need to get you over here in Henry Co. The deer and Hogs are over running us down here on the Kentucky river.

@thegundungeon 3 жыл бұрын

@@ponthis1 we haven’t got any hogs up this way yet but man the coyotes have sure taken off like crazy around here. I’m always down for a hog hunt though! Lol

@jwmcniel 2 жыл бұрын

What was the retained weight? What distance were you shooting and what velocity?

@Swampytheroot 2 жыл бұрын

Good review!

@wcneathery3100 3 жыл бұрын

For hunting deer and hogs I switched from 123g SST to 120g Federal Fusion. Far less meat damage with Fusion. When it comes to self defense the SST will get the call.

@lukeflaugher5334 3 жыл бұрын

I think you made the right choice as I want an exit wound myself. I want them leaking out both sides!

@thegundungeon 3 жыл бұрын

I agree, especially in thick wooded areas where a blood trail is a must.

@stevencarnes7790 2 жыл бұрын

If you look at videos with other gel tests with a wide variety of speer gold dot rifle bullets. They expand and roll back much farther to the point where the petals touch the table before the base of the bullet does. I believe this would be a perfect bullet for the 6.5 Creedmoor at a velocity range of 2800-2900fps. Or if there was a way to get this bullet going 2600-2650 in the Grendel it would be great. I just got some of these bullets to test in my Grendel. Im going to see whats the fastest I can push bullets and still get at least moa groups. If I can't get close to 2550-2600 I will be surprised but vary happy.

@phillipperkins2770 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve been thinking the same thing. I loaded 500 of the gold dots, 120 grain with 25 grains of AR COMP a couple of years ago when I got into the Grendel. I haven’t shot anything with them but paper. But my lifelong friend has and at 300 yards the bullet needs more speed. With research I’ve discovered I could load 27 grains of AR COMP. My loads are half moa. When you crank up the speed the groups spread. I have some 130 tipped SGK, some 129 SST,s, and some 129 interbonds. I need to get to the bench

@Heywoodthepeckerwood 2 жыл бұрын

31.4 gr. CFE223 under a 123 gr SST gets me 2550 FPS out of a 20” AR15.

@stevencarnes7790 2 жыл бұрын

@@Heywoodthepeckerwood I'm not a fan of the SST or any of the Hornady bullets for deer hunting with the Grendel.

@brandonjohnson3120 3 жыл бұрын

Never saw or heard what distance you shot the gel from? I use the same bullet in 6.5 Grendel for hunting hogs. Thanks for doing these tests.

@calvinhenderson4200 3 жыл бұрын

I prefer the Speer Gold Dot. SST's blow up on close range deer shots. Speaking from personal experience. I think the SST does great at longer range

@mrallen3725 2 жыл бұрын

Good video

@ILOVETOSHOOT 2 жыл бұрын

I've killed several nice bucks with the 123sst. I go for a high shoulder shot and the deer usually fall in their tracks. My grand children like the mild recoil. Might have to build another rifle.

@richardmartin3243 2 жыл бұрын

Need a 6.5mm Grendel with a hollow cavity like the 7N1 with a steel Core boat Tell

@rawlins03 3 жыл бұрын

I've got s bunch of golddots for .308 great bullet.

@thegundungeon 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve always been a fan of the handgun bullets but I think they have a winner with rifle bullets too!

@joenguyen-vlog8063 3 жыл бұрын

Liked and subscribed 👍👍😁

@thegundungeon 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@preacherbiggin 3 жыл бұрын

Buffalo sent me.... SUBSCRIBED!

@thegundungeon 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thank you!

@Frenchfrys17 3 жыл бұрын

How did the Gold Dots do during Deer season? Just curious

@thegundungeon 3 жыл бұрын

Never got a chance to use one. Coyotes have covered me up this year, destroyed the deer hunting.

@godswatcher 2 жыл бұрын

140 rdf 28 grains AA 2520 Totally devastating. No pressure signs.

@jamespugh 3 жыл бұрын

#Buffalo sent me over. Great channel so for 👍 like small channels. I follow lot of small channel cherry city guns and Alaskan Ballistics in alike. Great load Johnny reloading bench took two deer speer gold dot did a number on them. I dig around for some for my 300blk. I like nosler balistic tips for deer hunting in 243. 7mm I'm all over . To I start reloading for them . Just got my small hand press to start with

@thegundungeon 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! I definitely think the gold dot is a good choice for deer in this round.

@jamespugh 3 жыл бұрын

@@thegundungeon definitely would agree. I don't got 6.5 and not sure if go that route.

@AnarchAngel1 2 жыл бұрын

ELD-Ms(6.5 Grendel), even though it's supposed to be a "match" bullet, are extremely devastating in my experience. They do dump a lot of energy quite early though. I've put several deer down on the spot with them, albeit they were fairly ideal broadside shots. My favorite load for taking deer is a 130 gr Nosler Accubond in .270 win. Load them with 58.0 gr H4831sc and they shoot sub MOA out of my stock R700 and hit deer like Thor's hammer but still almost always fully penetrate the deer no matter the angle. I'm talking big Midwest whitetail too

@messenger325 4 ай бұрын

As high as ammo is now 3yrs later,, would love to start loading my own 6.5 grendel,, could you maybe ,, sometime,, make a video of what you would need to start up loading your own ,, the cost today ,, of stuff,, I'm sure a lot of ppl don't like paying the high prices for ammo,, like me👍👍don't guess utube would allow that .....

@thegundungeon 4 ай бұрын

I’ll see what I can come up with. Reloading isn’t necessarily cost effective in itself, but can save you money on certain rounds, 6.5 Grendel being one example of that. I rarely load range 9mm or 223 anymore just because the cost difference isn’t enough to justify my time or components. I’ll see if I can put it all in a video for you.

@messenger325 4 ай бұрын

@@thegundungeonthanks man,,,my phone went on the blink while ago i couldn't get back to you,, i black powder hunt ,, that as far as my knowledge goes.. Thanks again👍👍👍

@matthewbeaver5026 3 ай бұрын

Loading doesn't save you any money. With the tools and components cost if anything you will probably spend more. Though after doing enough loading to pay for the equipment. You do get to shoot a little bit more for the same cost. That's been my experience anyway. It was much better when I started and you could get 1k primers for 40 bucks instead of 100

@thegundungeon 3 ай бұрын

@@matthewbeaver5026 funny you mention that, I have a reloading and rambling coming out Thursday addressing the costs/savings of reloading and I break down the 9mm and 6.5 Grendel loads vs buying factory.

@joshuahammond2321 10 ай бұрын

50 yards and in neck shots with ssts drop them everytime and farther shots perfect shot in the lungs with ssts they dont go fare but keep shots under 350 yards just good lil woods gun

@thegundungeon 10 ай бұрын

Funny you say that, I shot one in the neck with an sst Grendel load last fall. I have a short made about it lol

@pauloglesbee9517 Жыл бұрын

The SST absolutely destroys the inside of a deer

@scottrussell8139 3 жыл бұрын

the sst did exactly what its suppose to do

@jessicastroop5623 2 жыл бұрын

Shoot deer ,moose ,coyotes, bear you name it ..with whatever is in the gun I reload for the fun of it . does not save a penny it allows me to shoot more until covid now I can't find anything and don't want to use up my surplus I'm on my 3rd 6,5 Grendel barrel from brux I can shoot bugholes at 100yrds 1inch groups at 700 the confidence that I have in my abilities to shoot make it to it don't matter how it performing it matters how I performed I have yet to pull a Maine moose tag but when I do I'll slide whatever bullet that shoots well in his ear and fold him up like a bag of hammer I remember growing up there was no I need this or that you bought what you could get and harvested meat with it marketing queens have controlled your and ALOT of others confidence . I'm confident in my abilities I'm not he one deciding where I put the lead

@AnarchAngel1 2 жыл бұрын

Did you just claim you can shoot a 1" group at 700 yards?

@mikehudak1727 2 жыл бұрын

@@AnarchAngel1 No shit, I was thinking the same!! I call BS

@AnarchAngel1 2 жыл бұрын

@@mikehudak1727 Jessica has quite obviously never shot a rifle at long range. With the absolute best ammo, best barrel, best conditions and a flawless shooter behind the gun that's still not possible. I could start to believe 1 inch at 200 but even that takes excellent gear and excellent shooting under ideal conditions. That would make the rig a half MOA rifle (slightly better actually)