6.5 Grendel AMMO TEST
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@ZSC001 Жыл бұрын
With ammo availability & pricing being what is is for 6.5g I’ve been pulling FMJ’s from my Wolf ammo and replacing them with 123 gr ELD. Accuracy and feeding has been fine so far.
@pliofcho4237 2 жыл бұрын
I'd blame the wolf opening on the barrel heating, so all of them are fine groupwise by my standards. Greetings from Bulgaria!
@travisnelson6137 2 жыл бұрын
Hard to beat the 123g Hornady SST on deer. You’ll want to keep the impact velocity over 1,900 f/s so about 400 yards is where a guy can reasonably limit shots to.
@groverstreet7128 Жыл бұрын
Not a fan of the plastic ballistic tipped ammo. I prefer the federal fusion soft point over the hornady black. My experience with the black is dead deer but not many exit the body at 200 yards.
@edeldridge36 2 жыл бұрын
Man, that Ruger sure likes the Hornady stuff. I was hoping to see the Wolf steel case shoot another group like the .8 group when sighting in. But even at 1.45, it's pretty good for cheap steel case ammo.
@WilliamSmith-kr8yb 2 жыл бұрын
IF you reload try the Nosler 120 grain BT over a near max charge of CFE 223 powder. This combo works good for me. The Hornady stuff is hard to beat in factory ammo and shoots good in both of my guns. Great shooting and enjoy your Grendel. One bad thing about owning a Grendel is you will start shooting it more and more and your other rifles less and less.
@Planetcat2071 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. Really nice comparison. In my “regular” hunting rifles, I find those SST’s are devastating on game. I will try them in my grendel AR for hog hunting.
@william16845 2 жыл бұрын
Id love to see who tee take these hornaday rounds out to far ranges..im excited about that and super happy to see a actually good video of the 6 5 grendel veing shot at long range.
@WHOTEEWHO 2 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏
@stephenhair5501 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the Federal Fusion in 6.5 Grendel. However, they are darn hard to find. I reload the Sierra Pro Hunter in 120 grain with great results on whitetails and hogs. Thanks for sharing Who Tee Who!!
@davidl416 2 жыл бұрын
Shot mine @ 900 yards with Hornady black 123gr eld-m and so impressed with their performance. My handloads using 123 eld-m out to 1120 yards. Amazing bullets.
@darvinclement3250 2 жыл бұрын
That's a very nice rig there! I'd use the SST's for deer hunting. Shot a pronghorn in Colorado about 6 years ago with them in an AR I put together in 6.8 spc II. About 100 yards facing me. He dropped like a rock and I found the core of the bullet between the rear quarters.
@davidlay5445 2 жыл бұрын
My daughter's loves Hornady 123 gr sst ammo. My rifle absolutely loves Alexander Arms 129 gr SST. It also likes the Alexander Arms 95 gr vmax. I'll have to check the new build after I get it finished.
@patthis 2 жыл бұрын
Hornady 123g SST shoots good in my AR upper, hard to find thou! Looking forward to this video
@user-li7dh2rl8w 2 жыл бұрын
They perform really well on deer too
@scubasteve3032 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. I have an ar-15 with an 18” barrel. Shoots the sst’s like a laser.
@merlinnorris817 2 жыл бұрын
Had to go back and rewatch this video. I love my 6.5 Grendel sweet little rifle. When I am able it will shoot super accurate groups.
@sandoval1529 2 жыл бұрын
Great shots! Might have to choose this rifle if I can find it. And the ammo! Great video!
@SR-so6mn Жыл бұрын
Great video. Considering a 6.5 for my next hunting rifle. I think the main difference will be with crosswind on the lighter rounds. Appreciate it
@jamessummerlin6033 2 жыл бұрын
I love my grendel (Frankenstein ar15) only thing I’ve hunted with for 2 years now great for deer and smaller hunters as well
@bigjimmy6690 2 жыл бұрын
The best factory ammo I've tried in my match-barreled AR-15 was the Hornady ELD-M. My hand-loaded rounds with the Barnes 100 grain TTSX and Stabill powder are not only super accurate (sub 1/2 inch 5 rounds) but also work very well on critters. I had sub-par results with the Hornady SSTs and the Federal 130 grain GMM factory loads.
@willo7734 Жыл бұрын
Based on your awesome results it’s definitely time I build a 6.5 Grendel upper. I just ordered a barrel. The fact that a 6.5 Grendel upper will snap right into an AR lower like 300 Blackout is really sweet. All of these amazing calibers are murdering my credit card! I think the Wolf is pretty decent for how much it costs. It just seems to be inconsistent in the calibers I’ve seen.
@millermanhal Жыл бұрын
Had the same thoughts.
@kyle18934 8 ай бұрын
my dad and I sighted in his grendel wit wolf, we had a group that was touching at 100 yards. pretty decent. of course we got it at $.80 a round :( so I'd hope it would be decent
@BenSundayDriver868 2 жыл бұрын
this is my fave type of vid, figuring out what works for each rifle
@nataliedeyton6829 2 жыл бұрын
For the 1000 yard shots you need to find some of the federal GMM 130 gr. I have shot many deer with 6.5 Grendel and the SST do the best ... the ELD-m seem to not hold together as good.
@lovethehuntOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
Are you saying your hunting with Eld Match round ammo on deer? They are not designed to expand and are specifically for match shooting to give you the best accuracy from your rifle. The Hornady Precision Hunter ELD-X is a very accurate Hunting bullet and will perform very well on deer sized game.
@1969darr 2 жыл бұрын
@@lovethehuntOutdoors The Hornady 123gr. SST is an absolute Deer Killer out to 300yds +.
@scotte016 2 жыл бұрын
Big fan of the 6.5 Grendel. Mine is on an AR platform with a 20" barrel. Likes the 123's and shoot lights out. I have taken deer and hogs with mine. It performs awesome.
@russstockton3784 2 жыл бұрын
It's probably been said already, but I think you need at 5 shots in your group to really find which ammo is better. If ammo supply wasn't such an issue I would suggest 3 groups of 5 rounds each to really see any difference in accuracy. It does look like your gun likes 123 gr rounds just fine though. The eld m looks like you can shoot it just like it is using max point blank ranging.
@l3ch 2 жыл бұрын
The wolf ammo used to be $6 a box before the pandemic. Those were the days.
@WHOTEEWHO 2 жыл бұрын
Yup
@dalemyers9045 2 жыл бұрын
Fortunately, I stocked up a bit, but not the several thousands that I wish I had.
@chadklaren9537 Жыл бұрын
"Plandemic" the ammo prices and availability of ammo was just a part of the governments plan slowly take our guns. Step one make ammo expensive and hard to find so people run out of ammo and their guns are useless. Step to take guns that are useless because there's no ammo.
@Soacwiththaface Жыл бұрын
Yes yes I member 🍇
@pauloglesbee9517 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, during the good old days, Grendel was usually only about a dollar higher than 5.56
@InTheYear 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t think I’ll ever get either of these cartridges but I do love the Creedmore for mid range big game! Thanks @Who Tee Who Great Content!
@Rickkari7 Жыл бұрын
Just picked up 2 boxes of 6.5 Grendel Hornady Black ELD at the Franklin, TN academy sports. Grateful it was in stock, not crazy about it being $29.99 a box. Grendel AR15 is a blast to shoot though. My 20 inch BCA upper runs great. Thanks for your videos.
@marctowers6369 2 жыл бұрын
That light going out gave your video a nice ambience, im still waiting for that 30 carbine clay block shoot
@HomeBrewedVapesReviews 2 жыл бұрын
Love the new setup. But you ain't talking me into it this time 😂 That is such an underrated round. Great video WHOTEEWHO, can't wait to see that long range trip.
@WHOTEEWHO 2 жыл бұрын
😆😆😆
@mmccarthy9458 2 жыл бұрын
6.5 Grendel looks like it would be amazing to shoot through an AR, good energy out to 500 yards and able to deal with larger game than 5.56 while still having low recoil and 1 MOA accuracy. But the bullets are a little expensive.
@CallofWar5 2 жыл бұрын
The ammopocalypse hit the grendel hard. It was easy to get into before
@connorburks1435 Жыл бұрын
It's still relatively easy to find, just not in bulk. I have a Diamondback DB15 chambered in 6.5 grendel and I absolutely love it. Great rifle shooting a great round.
@sugargoldy 2 жыл бұрын
Good video I just bought the same gun I'm going to try some Hornady 120 grain ELD match bullets. When I get all the reloading components in. Now it's time for a paper plate test 6.5 Grendel vs. 6.5 Creedmoor.
@ronaldmclaughlin255 2 жыл бұрын
With the cost of ammo the wolf is more then fine for practice, all the hunting loads are good to go for most hunting, nice rig and soft for the younglings.
@townsvillebowhunter 2 жыл бұрын
awesome video was looking at getting my 11yr old his first center fire as thinking 223 but I have to say this 6.5 Grendel might be a better option for hunting hogs
@dr.froghopper6711 2 жыл бұрын
The Grendel is everything that the 223 wishes it was! 123 gr vs 55-70gr- for hunting deer sized game, the Grendel is much better!
@spurgecochran2738 2 жыл бұрын
The perfect fill in cartridge between a 308 and 5.56.. Love that round! GRENDEL!!
@WHOTEEWHO 2 жыл бұрын
I love it!
@AndrewKarpyszyn 2 жыл бұрын
@@WHOTEEWHO But seriously, why are there 2 versions of 6.5 ammo? Creedmore or Grendel, that is the question; but WHY is that the question?
@alvarojm750 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewKarpyszyn .223 length action vs .308 length action (or there abouts)
@heathadams1274 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewKarpyszyn Well there's also PRC, Swedish, and a host of others like the 260 Remington...
@tylermallory2504 2 жыл бұрын
What about 243
@billdont2458 2 жыл бұрын
My gun loves the Black as well. I think you need to shoot a "dirt round" when you change bullet types. First one is always in a different spot then the other 2 tighten up.
@pliofcho4237 2 жыл бұрын
But in the most cases first and third were touching and the second was the opener, anyway they all look pretty acceptable for hunting I'd say
@lovethehuntOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
@@pliofcho4237 The Hornady ELD match the Hornady Black, and the Wolf Fmj are not deer hunting rounds as you may know, they do not expand to ethically kill any species of deer or antelope in the field. Coyote's and other vermin might be acceptable game to shoot.
@FISHUNTREE 2 жыл бұрын
What a great little cartridge. I believe you made it even more famous
@calvinhenderson4200 2 жыл бұрын
Shot a big 9 point at 40 yards three years ago with Hornady Black. Bullet blew to pieces inside the deer. Now I use Federal Fusion in 6.5 and .308 and love them.
@ChristopherKnN 2 жыл бұрын
I love the Fusion as well, always perfect performance. I also use the Nosler Long Range, perfect in Grendel with lower starting velocities.
@herrcobblermachen 2 жыл бұрын
Just what we wanted to see :). Just need an expansion vid, and the long range vid you mentioned and we'll be right :)
@waynebowman2315 2 жыл бұрын
Great grounps sir, didn't expect much from the wolf stuff but still wasn't bad
@heathadams1274 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see five or ten shot groups to really show consistency. I've really wanted a Grendel for a while. I've got an American Predator in 243 and absolutely love it. Thanks for putting out great videos.
@jefferytallant3814 2 жыл бұрын
Love my Grendel upper AR
@djl5634 2 жыл бұрын
Grendel's are awesome. I use Federal Fusion for whitetail hunting. It's a thumper in a ar15 size platform
@stephenhair5501 2 жыл бұрын
@@djl5634 The Fusion is a great bullet. Very hard to find at the moment.
@secrityforcemarine 2 жыл бұрын
my custom build 6.5 G AR loves the Hornady black
@jusnuts1443 2 жыл бұрын
6.5mm is around .256 inches. Hmmmm. That's mighty close to .270 caliber. Darn close to .25-06. I have yet to fire a 6.5. Back in the '80's, the 6mm and 7mm was all the rage. In my opinion, all are good for hunting whitetails. Every hunter has their preference. And who are we to judge one another! Go with what you're comfortable with. Happy Trails!
@Cincinnatis 2 жыл бұрын
Even better suppressed. Love this caliber.
@WD-sr8qz Ай бұрын
Nice, to really know which is the best for your rifle it would be better to shoot 10+ rounds per group. Thanks for the video.
@justinweaver8787 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet set up hope u had a good Easter buddy.
@WHOTEEWHO 2 жыл бұрын
Sure did
@justinweaver8787 2 жыл бұрын
@@WHOTEEWHO good happy to happy to hear it
@scottborst5430 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this video about the 6.5 Grendel I know it’s probably been up here for a minute but you need to clamp that device down better and did you warm up the barrel first with a couple of rounds before you start shooting or did you do a cold barrel shot?
@bobg.8954 2 жыл бұрын
Great video WTW and Congrats on the 400K!!!
@WHOTEEWHO 2 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏
@gkhanjriii91-04 2 жыл бұрын
Equipment wise , barrel length, rifling ratio , and finally barrel profile 👊🏼🤙🏼
@philipfreeman72 2 жыл бұрын
On my 1915 Swede I used 90 gr. Nosler at accuracy load , any more powder went wild . I got 3 inch exits close range .
@lovethehuntOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
WhoTWho this is a Great Video on the 6.5 Grendel and some nice ammo. I wish you would have mentioned the Hornady Black, the Eld match rounds and the Wolf steel Case FMJ are Not for Deer hunting as they do not expand upon impact as you know. They are simply for target shooting and killing coyotes, possums, raccoon, and other vermin if needed.
@jasonluis9473 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for the drop video! You’ve convinced me to Grendel in the ruger American
@WHOTEEWHO 2 жыл бұрын
Already filmed it! Will be out this week!
@pete6199 2 жыл бұрын
Nice ear protectors. Got my Axils last week. Went with two pairs. Better buy.... I have my best luck with 123gr. bullets in my grendels, also.
@billylee2312 2 жыл бұрын
Probably the best young kid caliber period and it’s a great round for adults as well. It lays whitetails down!!
@WHOTEEWHO 2 жыл бұрын
🦌🦌🦌
@sethwaggoner6497 2 жыл бұрын
I built an AR in the 6.5 Grendel, and I absolutely LOVE IT! It's a tack-driver!
@WHOTEEWHO 2 жыл бұрын
I love it!
@lutherpayne9957 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the dark side my friend. Everywhere I would have used a .308, I now use the Grendel. The 123 grain Hornady with a 20 to 24 inch barrel is almost vodo it's so good.
@jonjames4281 2 жыл бұрын
the sst have a slightly higher BC over the others. very minor difference compared to the ELD. which I think is cool for hunting bullets. It's pretty much all I load but have shot plenty of the others. have had success with the hornady 120gr also. the wolf likes shorter barrels judging from my 2 rifles. The other cool thing is it'll have almost the same trajectory as 308 so you can use the same dope and be in a few inches out yonder. the heavy 223 75gr-79gr should also share that trajectory but I haven't proven that for myself but Primary Arms says it does.
@swampdrake4569 Жыл бұрын
The wolf bullet mic out at .261 and 6.5 is .264, love the Grendel round and have harvest many deer with it.
@terrell48 2 жыл бұрын
I like the looks of that cartridge it looks like a great whitetail and mule deer round
@ronaldbarnes8302 2 жыл бұрын
Impressive shooting round. Hornady always seems to produce accurate ammo. Thanks for sharing WTW!
@WHOTEEWHO 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Ronald!
@william16845 2 жыл бұрын
Hornaday black and wolf is all i can fid find currently...alot of companies make factory loads for the grendel but no others are in stock..id like to see federal put out its 90grain varmint rounds again..
@duranbailiff5337 Жыл бұрын
I want that very gun and believe that the Wolf gives good enough accuracy for most shooters. Plus, I love the affordability of the Com-blok stuff!😁
@Brykk 2 жыл бұрын
Before you start shooting, ill bet that the black with the eld will come out on top. Anytime i walk into a shop that has it on the shelf, i buy it. My ar will shoot sub 1/2” groups at 100 all day long. And it performs well for hunting. That stuff is awesome.
@breakoutoutdoors1934 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man, sorry I ain't been on the previous videos, but t I made it to this one. Awsome video
@WHOTEEWHO 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!!!
@sixfivearms8896 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. Thanks for posting! I'd argue that 115gr is probably the "sweet spot" for the 6.5 Grendel, but nobody makes a bullet in that weight!
@bigjimmy6690 2 жыл бұрын
Actually Barnes makes a 115 grain TTSX in loaded ammo and bullets for reloading. Of course finding them is pretty much impossible.
@proteus371 Жыл бұрын
love my Grendel, shoot it more than any caliber right now and have tried all those factory loads, but never good results, but mine loves handloads! Easy under .5" MOA with 5 shots @ 100yrds using 95g & 130g AMAX, also like 123 & 108 Lapua
@guardianminifarm8005 2 жыл бұрын
Not bad at all. Good deer round within range limits.
@andrewv5994 2 жыл бұрын
Before the ammo shortage i had a hard time finding grendal ammo around here in western new york. During the shortage and now i found quite a bit if that makes any sense🤔🤣.
@jonathanmitchell3733 2 жыл бұрын
you must also take in consideration that those two wolf groups from the previous video actuallyform quite a big group if you consider your point of aim. I actually think you were very lucky getting two small groups, because I would rather consider that a 2" 6 shot group
@lylewalters909 2 жыл бұрын
Can't beat the SST bullets! The barns are great but not awesome lol. Now you need a 6mm arc. Mine will be done in 2 weeks I hope.
@chuckydubree1925 Жыл бұрын
That rifle will flat out shoot good job great video
@Redevil667 Жыл бұрын
That rifle sure is a sweet shooter. I've probably had the best results with the Alexander arms 129 grain SSTs.
@Spidermonkey2a 2 жыл бұрын
Excited for this. I did a similar video with my ruger american 6.5 grendel as well and curious to see if the groups are similar. Also did one with my howa mini action 1500 6.5 grendel. That's a fun rifle as well
@Kratos_God_of_50_BMG Жыл бұрын
Great video my man! Could you please compare this to .300 blkout? 😊
@jessetherrien7851 2 жыл бұрын
Ammo besides wolf fmj is pretty hard to come by but the Hornady Black and Custom is around if you can get some before it's gone. Will be curious to see what you found and what shoots best for your setup. See ya tonight.
@nathenfarmer5625 2 жыл бұрын
Freind of of mind as a 6.5 Grendel that round is amazing but myself ill stick with my 30-06 for hunting Love your videos
@WHOTEEWHO 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you watching bigtime
@bobborlog1677 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to have to load some of those 6.5 tac tx projectiles in my Creedmoor
@scaler1179 2 жыл бұрын
I wish you had some Barnal. As steel case goes, that stuff can compete with match ammo.
@pjbarney9580 Жыл бұрын
love my 6.5 grendrl.. it's an 18"heavy fluted barrel ar15. the only thing I dont like is how much ammo costs for it(if you can even find it)!!!
@ChristopherKnN 2 жыл бұрын
I wish Hornady would make the ELD-X cartridges and bullets in 123gr for the Grendel. I guess they figured out it is not necessary because of the lower velocity. I like having target and game bullets in the same configuration. I run the ELD-X bullets in my Creedmoor and they are great on game and very accurate.
@arthurshingler2025 10 ай бұрын
I've only shot Hornady. H335 powder was the best powder for my Grendels.... the 123gr. SST bullet shot very well.
@danusmc8012 2 жыл бұрын
I love the ruger Americans. I have the ranch models in 556,350l,450bm and took a deer last year with my 6.5 gr. My only problem with the ruger rifles is picking which one to hunt with hahah.
@phillipperkins2770 8 ай бұрын
I bought 500 of the Wolf delivered for under 130$ when I first got my Grendel upper. They grouped fine for what they are.
@keithjones818 2 жыл бұрын
Adam, my Ruger predator 6.5 creedmoor likes the Hornady blacks, yours probably will too in grendal
@lonewanderer3603 2 жыл бұрын
In a 24" upper, those 123 SST shoot cloverleaf groups for me.
@chrissheathewoodguy 2 жыл бұрын
you flung the wolf last after the barrel was hot. might have something to do with the group opening up.
@BulletsB4Guns_2A 2 жыл бұрын
This is going to be a great video!!
@bradbo3 2 жыл бұрын
I called the Hornady Black....that stuff is amazing....I use it in all my hunting rifles....and never fails me. Hurts the wallet a bit...but when trying to kill a deer or bear.....I only want to take 1 sure shot.
@Dwayne7834 2 жыл бұрын
Tight shooting gun. It will make someone want one. Thanks for the video.
@ianhawthorne2654 2 жыл бұрын
i have a howa grendel and it clover leafs on the 123 hornady black ammo
@supercomp65 2 жыл бұрын
When you're rifle is consistently stacking 2 rounds and randomly throwing a third regardless of barrel temperature, across multiple different types of ammo, it's often an indication of a bedding issue which given the cheap tupperware stocks on a lot of factory rifles, isn't surprising. Regardless of whether they have a "chassis" or bedding blocks, or are pillar bedded, they simply aren't as rigid as a hardwood, laminate, or composite stock that has been properly bedded but these rifles were designed to be affordable, accurate, and lightweight hunting rifles, not benchrest or long range precision rifles. If they were to come with the aforementioned changes, it would likely double the price on them and for 99% of people using them, the performance increase would be inconsequential.
@darrylryder8114 2 жыл бұрын
I missed 3 deer back to back with the sst in my ballistic advantage 20" upper. Went back to the black 123 eld and have taken 7 deer the last 2 years. All neck shots. I've heard too many hunters say they loose deer going for heart because it pokes holes well. The last deer I took was at alittle over 300 yards. Neck shots drop them in their tracks. Love my 6.5 Grendel. You'll have to come up 39.81 moa at 1000 so hope you hit
@pauloglesbee9517 Ай бұрын
I’ve never lost a deer or had one run over 30 yards with 123 grain sst
@billhatcher2984 2 жыл бұрын
I had a load in 25-06 with the SST that was a half in. All day but they destroy way too much meat a shoulder shot deer was a waist the off shoulder pulled off with the skin and I could put my hat in the hole in the ribs I switched to ballistic tips but I liked the canalur on the Hornady they are great if you don't want to eat what you shoot
@scitzmnm 5 ай бұрын
Between me and my brothers we have 3 16 inch Grendel AR 15. none of them like to heavier bullets. They tend to like 110 and lighter lead or light copper.
@richardpowell4281 9 ай бұрын
Just killed a 100lb white tail doe with Horandy Custom SST, definitely gets the job done.
@brijstaker 2 жыл бұрын
AWESOME AWESOME round!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANKs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@slickdeselms7738 2 жыл бұрын
Nice.....^) I'd like to see a 7.62x39 compared to the 6.5 Grendal. I have an ol mini 30. And been thinking of doing a 6.5 AR .....thanks for your vids.....^)
@merlinnorris817 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video as always My rifle prefers the 120 grain bullets but 123 are close
@WHOTEEWHO 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Merlin!
@merlinnorris817 2 жыл бұрын
@@WHOTEEWHO your welcome
@carterthiessen2664 2 жыл бұрын
Id say those SSTs would be the ones to go with for deer and smaller game. I've shot deer with 129 sst and 140 sst in the creedmoor, same diameter but going a bit faster. Puts the deer down real fast
@sheerziggy Жыл бұрын
I hunt with the Hornady black 123 htbt and it's pretty accurate too
@mikecorley8270 2 жыл бұрын
Love that round👍
@barrykramer9125 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see how it does at 300 400 and 500 yds because those are more of a hunting range for most of us westerns
@reapergrim76 2 жыл бұрын
Cool stuff! 😀
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