That's is crazy rule

Mucho Grasious

I had to pay $1000 to expedite my US green card to US immigration in 2005. My immigration lawyer said I could not paid, but it would take a lot longer. Mexico is learning from the USA.

Although this is crazy. What if tourists are not carrying their passport with them when they go to a beach or an excursion? I always leave the passport at the place where I am staying

Who is we ? I got the impression from another video that you and Maddie are no longer doing videos so is Tangerine Travels the we, just wondering. Thx :)

Thanks for clarifying those details! I was trying to remember it as best as I could but I had only seen the video once and it was before I moved to Mexico 4 years ago.

And by the way, although many of the details of that story were kind of blurry because it had been so long, I do remember that the person from that video was living in Guadalajara, so it must've been you. I find it kind of funny that I remembered you having a pet. Maybe at the time I was watching the video I was thinking something like "damn what if he had a dog back home in GDL, the dog would've been left there." And then 5 years later I remember you having a dog. Lol. Did you do an interview with the dollar vigilante about it? I think it was on his channel. If you want to get me on your podcast send me an email. I've been extremely busy but maybe we can make it work.

Aussie - glad you’re back where you want to be. So many stories - some horrible like the German Jordan just featured, but others mas tranquilo. Jordan - thx for Tangerine’s focusing on the need for travelers to travel smart and read that little box at the bottom!

@@TangerineTravels yes, Jeff Berwick interviewed me about it for Anarchast. Looks like it's still up on KZfaq, which I didn't expect kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pc6lrKl2z8zSdok.html I can't see your email on your site or on KZfaq. I signed up to your mailing list just now, maybe I'll find it on there.

@@waldosgrade thanks, it's great to be here. I definitely appreciate it more these days

You can check in with the USPP website & put in all your travel info so they are aware of your plans . . .

@@cjwhitehead5657 This is assuming the person knows what "USPP" is.....Can you help out there??

Exactly

If one needs to be detained in the USA or any other country it needs to be in a humane way and processed quickly. This man couldn't even get a phone call. And many USA citizens did complain and protest the way these people are treated. Most didn't have Visas, they are seeking asylum not overstaying visas. Mexico seems arbitrary in the length of stay. I can't see this is going to be good for people just going for a short vacation and will hurt the tourism industry

@@kr-jj5kr we are not worried, if anything this will be a purge of the type of tourists that enter Mexico. If you are entitled, ignorant and feckless, then you dont get to visit. That sounds great for me :)

Yes, but shouldn’t you do that every time you go into any country as a tourist? At least it is what I’ve always done.

Agree

Keep in mind that any country you enter, it is your responsibility knowing when you have to leave.

@@marite135 Normally the allowed duration of a visit to a country is stated in laws of that country, and is based on the purpose of the visit, your nationality, etc. I always l check the laws BEFORE planning a trip. But now, in Mexico, the duration of the visit is at the discretion of the immigration officer. That was my reason for the comment. I do not normally ask the immigration officer because I already know the law. But the Mexican law is whatever the immigration officer determines.😬

@@markstringer8536 Yes, they can be real bastards, a lot of them hate foreigners, same with USA border officials.

@Kamil as you stated, probably this guy refused to leave the country and that’s the consequence. Could happen.

The difference is in the USA 🇺🇸 you won’t be tricked into thinking you have a 180 days when in fact you only have 5days. If you’re determined at lease you know you’ve over stayed your time or jump the fence.

I know this guy shouldn't have taken for granted the process or assumed he got the 180 days, and also some things he says are full assumptions (like the Mexican government getting some sort of economic benefit) but he shouldn't have been in prison for that long (or ever ). Unfortunately, here in Mexico justice is just for the wealthy and influential (us locals have always known that from all these corruption-related cases in media and sometimes experiences from loved ones or friends)

False. In nyc they will give you free college free food free Heathcare if your illegal including drivers license calif same long Island same

@@joelincolnlincoln6315 bs

I’ve also seen many situations where people made assumptions that were wrong. Your assumption that he became confrontational with Mexican immigration could be true, but it might also be completely wrong. I’ve also commonly seen this thing going around that whenever anyone is a victim of a crime in Mexico they say they must’ve done something to deserve it. Although it may be true that there was a lot of violence that goes on between cartels, I’m sure there are some times where there is an innocent victim, and people just assuming things that doesn’t help the situation. I think it’s better to give people the benefit of the doubt when we don’t know for sure. It makes us more compassionate people.

@@TobyNomad but he was breaking the law the paper was given to him said 26 days he should have read it people who get detaine in the USA can sometimes wait months in a detention center. Before getting deported, just because it says detention center it doesn’t make it any nicer to be in

Yes, but just because immigration is handled poorly in the US, it doesn’t make it OK to do the same here. And people make mistakes but that is no reason to keep them confined without giving them the right to a call. Even criminals that have harmed people have that right. Even if someone were confrontational, that person still has human rights.

@@claucemicro1080 Inmates are not allowed a phone call in many countries. Not sure if Mexico is one? I know in the US, they had to actually put it into the bill of rights. if I am not mistaken.

@@claucemicro1080 Human rights don't apply to 3rd world governments. Therefore when you are visiting countries that are corrupt, don't respect human rights and have different laws than your own country you exercise due diligence, read up on current visa rules, you memorise the phone number of the local embassy and you especially check the damned time stamp on your visa paper to know how long you can stay in the country so you don't overstay by months.

checking your tourist card is very important! Thats the takeaway from this video.

To be honest ive never even seen the number of days maybe i never paid attention

Just spent 2 weeks never check Dodged a bullet

Maybe it’s just that the detention center standards are so bad in Mexico that they seem like what would be the worst prison in Germany.

Yes, your husbsnd is right

yes, strange that you just assumed Mexico should take you in just because and be thankful for your presence.

@@dumajimo I lived in Guadalajara for 10 years so it has always been my other hometown

@@ccoolstuff1 did you even stay on a resident visa or just assumed that Mexicans should be ok with you living there on a tourist visa? Yes. You are still a GUEST/IMMIGRANT Mexico is not a franchise of wherever you come from (assuming USA).

@@dumajimo I was 11 years old when we moved to Mexico. And no I never thought about anything other than being a kid and learning to ride a skate board. Not one thought other than just being there and loving my new life.

Excellent information! Thank you!

This is very helpful.

You don't think it has anything to do with corruption????? LOL

Everything you mention is worth consideration. But keep in mind this is Mexico. If the government doesn't like the color of your house, they just seize your property and toss out your ownership papers. Laws and rights are a joke. Cash is king. In some respects, it is wilder than an old west town (Tombstone AZ etc).

Well said.

Its also a good idea to ask if they don't tell you or read the passport

@@guzlui1 : They don´t write the number of days you are granted on the passport. They are supposed to jot it down on the FMM, but sometimes they don´t because I went to Cancun for two days last Monday and the immigration officer left that box blank. Too bad I cannot share the picture here. I had to reach out to a friend with connections inside the INM to find out that I had actually been granted 180 days. Four months ago I was only authorized to be 2 days in the country, which was exactly the length of time I intended to stay, but I found it insulting becasue if my Covid test had come back positive, I would have been illegal in the country until I tested negative and were allowed to fly back to the US.

@@henryf5001 why ? Are you unfamiliar with most countries having immigration laws? And, in the US, remember there are toddlers separated from their parents.

I loved the two years I spent in Ajijic and I came back to Canada to apply for residency and squeeked in but now the income requirements have doubled so there's no way I can come back. Sad. Having spent some time in both Panama and Ecuador before Mexico no question that Mexico was by far the best.

That's just it, the laws have changed to what? Seems like no one knows. We're at the whims of the customs agent. How can you make plans if you don't know the length of your stay?

Exactly! I guess the economy is doing better now that they don’t need our money spent in Mexico 🇲🇽

The point here is that it changed very randomly and without any announcement or explanation, and it is actually confusing and difficult because they scribble it at the bottom and it’s very difficult to read and you wouldn’t even know to look for it unless you saw videos like this or really did a lot of due diligence research which the average person, probably you included, normally does not do. It’s easy to make a comment like this from your couch in hindsight. It’s also overkill to have somebody in a jail for six days. I hope the next time that you make a mistake or overlook some detail, people are more compassionate to you than you are to this person.

@@capncmbk knowing the length of your stay is actually making a plan! I mean who really goes to a country and travels around and no end game plan? Look at your paperwork. I guess Im not independently wealthy so I dont usually jet off to foreign countries with no relatives for months on end. jajaja

Maybe the Mexican govt. should spend more time and resources on cracking down on their drug cartels rather than hastling tourists who go there and spend money which helps their local economies.

@@SMoore-vj7bt There's laws in Mexico and you have to respect the laws, just like any other country. You think Mexico is paradise and you you thing can just walk in and stay as long as you want. Nope, just like in the U.S they give you a visa for 60 days and you stay longer than that, you know ICE will go look for you. Don't like Mexican laws go to other country no big deal.

Did you carry the passport with you all the time?

Maybe it depends on the immigration agent you go through when entering. There should be a publicly stated standard for everyone to see.

It’s not the stamp that shows your days, it’s the number they scribble at the bottom with a pen.

Are you ok now, recovered from PTSD?

@@robster7012 The ordeal happened to mean 3 years ago, but, I still have mild symptoms. Especially in the night, I often wake up with a strong sense of fear and panic.

@@deeleerambles I'm a natural health practitioner. Have you looked into EMDR and or EFT? I'm not looking for business just wanted to share

@@robster7012 Thanks, I’ve not looked into EFT. My healing therapy was to move to the countryside in Wales for a year, and to write a book about my ordeal (The book is called “Detained” on Amazon) I was also interviewed on the “BreakFear find Freedom” podcast & KZfaq channel which helped with the talking therapy side of things. I’ll check out EFT thanks.

@@deeleerambles I'll check out your book. All the best 🙏🏻

Almost certainly was a test, or a setup.

Where in Mexico did you get your visa?

@@aldorabarrow5829 you have to apply outside of Mexico. I went to Sacramento, CA because it was the nearest to my home. You then have 180 days to enter Mexico and then 30 days to go to INM to complete the process.

They were squeezing you all. To call and get some ex pat money. Cops in Mexico always corrupt.

This is old inaccurate news. Everything changed drastically the 1st week Biden took over. The election essentially was, open borders or no open borders. Biden followed through with open borders. I go through the Tijuana border 3 times a week. All my friends in Tijuana who were from other countries besides mexixo , that had been trying to get into USA for several years, were all let in. Within 60 days from Biden taken over. I just met a 50 year old guy from Africa in Tijuana last month. It was his first few days in mexixo. He said usa border patrol told him, fill out the asylum papers, then you get to go to usa in 30 days. Almost everytime I walk back into usa is a large group of 400 guys from guatalama elnsalvadore, everyday. They do not look homeless, tired, like they walked to border for months. They were probably on their couch in el Salvatore, flew to Tijuana, waited the 30 days and are now walking into usa with usa paid cell phones, usa paid flight tickets to their city of choice, and cash for spending. Its in the news its no secret. The usa border is wide open. Only people left in mexixo would be Mexicans as I believe they don't get allowed into usa as easily. Because they would be asked to wait in mexixo for asylum court date which most asylum.cases are fake and 80bto 90% rejected. I must know 400 people in usa all got their papers through fake marriage and fake asylum. Never met anyone who really had to leave an entire country because of some crazed gang member.

@@joelincolnlincoln6315 will I actually live in Tijuana. I know Venezuelans who got deported from US to mexico instead of deported to their own country. I also see lazy guatemalans, Hondurans, even Venezuelans sleeping on the streets in tijuana, giving the city a very bad image, many asking for money without working. Theres many immigrants living in the abandoned and isolated pieces of land in rosarito where they hang out, they make night fires out in the open on the streets to keep themselves warm. Makes me question if they are the ones who started the tijuana fires in the first place! Recently the city cleaned up a garbage landfill caused by the immigrants, it was disgusting, they were told to leave. Also, they ask me for money everyday, I pass by those streets and can tell you the street names where they stand. I cross the border also 2- 3 times per week. I live on both sides of the border. I have also lived in the southern border, in fact know people from Haiti and seen how crowded those immigration facilities are. They are filled with Haitians, Cubans, central Americans in Chiapas, but also in tijuana there's alot of problems. Its not as easy as you think for them to enter US after Biden. Many are rejected, Mexico accepted that they wait for their US processing papers in Mexico, but it has created overcrowding and I personally think they should apply in their own country rather than cross thru mexico. Another problem is the type of people entering mexico, there has been no filter like the US has with background checks, etc, so many enter with an aggressive history. My family was attacked by caravans, random cars were ruined, property damage everywhere, even murders by central americans. I even had to pay for the property damage they caused (in tijuana), its in the thousands of dollars. Damage caused by Colombians and Venezuelans that show no respect, they see mexico as a place they can disrespect and step on, many come with so much anger. How is any country supposed to handle so much hate and aggression coming in without filters? Isn't it a right every country has to protect its citizens? I dont like how they step all over mexico or how they think any person can enter the US, thats a big lie. The US takes its precautions, it doesnt just let anyone in, they are strict in that matter and should. The only group I know has been very respectful are Haitians and they get along very good, we enjoy having them in tijuana, I don't support the aggressive central/southern Americans or any aggressive person no matter where they're from. I was in mexicali and the border had to be closed due to a Guatemalan killing a mexican. Just not right.

@@joelincolnlincoln6315 as of January 26, 2022, mexico does require a visa from Venezuelans to enter mexico.

Exactly.

Enjoy your time in SMA. It's a great place. I'll be there in June.

This comment is very naive and foolish. It’s VERY possible that the form was illegible and very possible that he was not given proper calling rights. You’re basically talking out of you butt and I guess want to feel superior. It’s not helpful or informative.

Don't try to live in Mexico on a FMM. If you want to live in Mexico, get residency. Most of the people that are getting in trouble have been using a FMM to live in Mexico. The FMM isn't for that.

@@stevenf7683 Appreciate the information. Blissings ✨

Wrong. Currently you are innocent according to the law.

@@davidandressanchezgarcia450 Wow, cosas han cambiado mucho. Deje Mexico en el 77. Gracias.

@@davidandressanchezgarcia450 Don’t get into a car accident where there is any injury, because even if the other party is at fault, you are going to jail until it all gets sorted out. You are guilty until proven innocent

@@HamiltonRb In the case you mention you are right, but it is also truth that according to the situación is the criteria for law's application. Greetings.

@@HamiltonRb you are responsable for blood injuries, so you are detein in a MP but you are then judged within 72 hours by law

Sorry that happened to you. What is your nationality if I may ask ? Do you speak Swahili ? I am currently trying to learn it.

This is why.. Americans and others gaming the system..rents and rental prices in many places going up thousands of percent.. but I do laugh at listening to comments about prison conditions..I think lots of details are left out of this story

That's what I figured and to remedy they have to enforce the laws or people are just going ti stay, it doesn't matter, they won't enforce it. But makes sense.. expats drive costs of living up

Yeah, and they're raising the solvency requirements, effectively limiting the number of new residents. Whatever that balance is between the huge revenue stream they get from foreigners, vs. the cost of living it creates for their people. I guess the aim is to still benefit from the tourism, but to better regulate the people living here.

That’s an interesting comment, I wonder how true it is. I would think that overall it is a net gain when people are coming there and spending money that they made in US dollars or Canadian dollars because it creates more jobs.

Eso es verdad , yo vivo en Cancún y aquí ha aumentado exageradamente los precios de las viviendas tanto que ya los precios son en dólares 💵… la calidad de vida en Cancún y en todo Quintana Roo es muy muy cara , nuestro sueldo no es igual a la de un Estadounidense o Canadiense. Nos han aumentando muchísimo los costos de viviendas.

Thanks for sharing!!

Hey I'm curious why are you staying in Celaya? It's more dangerous than other cities. How did you decide to pick to live there?

@@lovedestinyz It's no better than any other city. But I feel safe here. I know that that Celaya has had a reputation because of the Cartels, but to tell you the truth I feel safe here.

the little snow flakes dont like it when the shoe is on the other foot. totally infuriating reading the Aussie guy whine.

Lol that's funny as a person born and raised in Canada illegal immigrants are given generous welfare ,places to live free, health care and benefits.I don't know where you got your info on Canada but it's wrong.They do detain you in an immigration facility if you are found to have a criminal record,those facilitys are far from prisn like.

@@georgefortune1109 overstaying a visa as a tourist is not equivalent to immigrants seeking asylum in Canada or USA. So we have to go into this issue here? We, meaning gringos or various flags, have a tendency’s towards entitlement. Extending ones vacay beyond the visa is entitlement. Seeking legal asylum is a matter of survival. It’s a moral issue. Just as feeling entitled as someone who can afford to come and go as they please in Latin America and take advantage is a moral issue.

@@henryf5001 tourist or tourist by trade? There is a difference you know. Let’s look at this logically, how would someone who mostly lives abroad not be on top of their visa expiry date? JS

@@henryf5001 HIs feeling don't supercede the countries laws. If that was how it worked anyone would just anywhere anytime they pleased.

Or he didn't care.

A lot of this is about how Mexicans are treated abroad.

Yes, still, the denial to a phone call is disturbing.

@@claucemicro1080 It is the same for others in Mexican jail. If you don't like the time, don't commit the crime. Sorry to say but it is the way it is in Mexico.

You are blaming the victim. Clean your brain.

What Europeans? Serious question. I was not aware of this. Only other South-American countries.

@@ellisrose8017 Generally the statistics of Mexico, do not give much account of nationalities. For example, Asians are not mentioned. But there are many deportations from the US to Mexico of mainly Chinese and Koreans. So common was this practice a few years ago, that there is a border mexican city where more than 50% are Chinese or descendants.According to statistics from January 2022, 38% of those detained in Mexico for migration were Asian, African and European

@@ellisrose8017 I was reading the figures and it says that last year 1.7 million migrants were detected on the southern border of Mexico. Most are Central American and Caribbean, like Haiti and Cuba. After Africans, Asians and the least European. Public statistics do not usually mention nationalities, only in general.

@@Nile55555 oh ok, but you wrote Europeans ☺️ I was wondering where to find these statistics, but you meant more generally. As i am very much unaware of Europeans staying illegally in Mexico. Or trying to cross the border into the US. Since most of them don't look at South-America as a "country of oppertunities" (for lack of better worthing) & they can move around freely in the EU. Thank you for the information 😊 Edit: probably the more Eastern European countries. That's where my confusion is. I sometimes forget that they still want to maybe move to/stay in the US.

@@ellisrose8017 Those who come to stay in Mexico are mostly Spanish, Italian, English, German, Russian. I puted a link here with the information, but it is deleted. I also believ that those who cross the most are those from Eastern Europe.

Didn’t you listen? He explained from the beginning and found info about how long he is granted to stay. It’s Mexico’s fault for abruptly changing its laws and not giving sufficient time for people to inform themselves.

@@SMoore-vj7bt The German guy, yes agree. My comment was on the Australian guy who moved to Mexico and had been living there for a few years.

@@domizzi626 yes, that's true for the German guy, which I agree authorities over reacted. The second part of my comment was about the Australian guy who had been living in Mexico for a few years without bothering to renew his visa or inform himself on the rules.

Not really, countries change their rules all the time and announce them through official channels. Its the immigrant's responsibility to be aware of that.

I don’t think it has anything to do with perpetual tourist syndrome. I think Mexico has issues right now, especially with the US. Apparently, also with certain European countries.

I just got 180 days, was actually staying for 10. Maybe it depends on how you are perceived and where you are entering. Or maybe Mexico watched this German guy's video and realized "oops, this looks bad for tourism."

@@mynamename5172 : Four months ago I just got the 2 days I was going to stay in Cancún and last Monday I got 180 even though I was only there for 2, again.

@@Ella_sera I think we have the same issues all countries have with ILLEGAL immigration. It just so happens that since the pandemic there have been tons of illegal immigration from USA and (maybe) Europe and the country has ALL THE RIGHT IN THE WORLD to limit and control it.

@@Ella_sera its not a matter of "thinking" there are gringos everywhere in Mexico, who come on tourist visas and assume they can stay for as long as they want, own property, not pay taxes etc. If that means "Mexico has issues with US" then yes. Any country would have issues with ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, it just so happens that many gringos think they are "special"

This isn’t about the law . This is about arbitrarily rules that are not at all clear or made explicit anywhere.

I wonder what the end game is here.

From my experience most Mexicans are very nice people. Unfortunately in most countries there are corrupt officials.

@@Rhaspun $$$$$

@@wirefreez Totally agreed but .. wow this is well beyond just simple corruption.

@@dgdw Wonder what would happen to a female tourist who unexpectedly has a baby in Mexico. Bet they would take it and sell it to child traffickers. In our country, it would be an anchor baby and a citizen LOL.

I had no idea thanks for sharing

This would be a reasonable request. What’s not reasonable is that the dates are all over the map and scribbled illegibly at the bottom looking like a signature or initials. It should be a consistent procedure and the exact number of days being at the discretion of the officer is NOT common internationally. In most countries you either get the allotted amount of days or you get denied. Mexico is the only country that I’ve heard of where you can come asking for six months and they give you two days because of their mood.

I have been to about 20 countries and NO ONE made me fill out a 'visa' card that virtually has no relevant information like this from their own government website. Everything is either electronic or the general immigration policies with a stamp usually covers you for 30 days, 60 days or 6 months. Mexico is the ONLY country that I have been to that uses an "arbitrary" form (FMM) that's not even a real visa/visado to give you super odd days like 3 days and every individual gets different amount of days in front of the INM officers. It's not that these people are 'overstaying' their 'visas' (btw, not a visa if I weren't being clear) It's just that INM just like any other Mexican government entities like IMSS, INE does not make this transparent.

@@duthegee uh his visa stated a date and he was caught 60 F´n days after that. If that´s not overstaying a visa then what is? Also, I dont know any other country with immigration rules so LAX that allow for literally HOMELESS gringos to come stay in Mexico for 6 months, so don´t push it. You dont like it? Fine! dont come. People like you are neither needed, nor wanted.

That would make a lot of sense because it really sounds like they're treating people the way the US treats central American and Mexican immigrants

@@hkiersey and this is wrong because...? Oh I know, you americans are "special" ;)

If you happen to find the vlog, could you share it here? thanks

No, she’s saying it’s good Mexico is doing this, because Americans treat Mexicans this way. Turnabout is fair play.

If you have an expired FMM but don't get caught by immigration before getting to the airport for your departure, that's all it is. You just have to pay the 600some pesos for a new FMM.

@God's Poetic Diary That is some pretty bad advice on their part and maybe it’s part of a scam, maybe the agent just didn’t feel like doing the extension. Bottom line - if you know it’s going to expire and they won’t give you an extension, you’re better off leaving the country than taking your chances.

Thats false. Even most violent felony dudes released from prison don't get deported. Go look up the numbers. Not single person has been deported without a violent felony conviction in years

That's BS. America is full of illegals that are being shipped all over the country with taxpayer dollars.

@@JohnDoe-qw4gc 🎯

If it weren’t for “violent illegals” - there would be no America.

because you are a NORMAL visitor. Who the hell goes someplace and wanders around without a return flight for 90 days or God knows when he was leaving. Just screams entitlement or worse

@@henryf5001 No wonder you're so salty in the comments! LMFAO!

@@SMoore-vj7bt Thank you!

Every time I've been issued a tourist permit, the number of days it was valid for was clearly written in the box at the bottom. I don't believe anyone who says they didn't know, it's right there! The German guy in the video could have just found a pen the right colour, then added a 1 in front of the 26.

@@e-curb It's digital now. They can check. Now, whether the system is functioning like it's supposed to, is another thing. I would try your idea and plead ignorance or that there was a mistake on data entry etc. But just know that things that worked a couple of years ago may not work now. I am currently in the midst of finishing up a work visa and the computer system has been a huge rigamarole. Thank goodness I have a lawyer dealing with those issues for me because I would have no clue as to how to deal with the system that is not consistently working as it should right now.

Yes please

@@henryf5001 What do you know?

exactly ,amazing that you the only one that noted that (and I ..... )

I was just waiting for him to use the race card on top of it. Seems like a scum bag if you ask my opinion

@@wojapi7538 There is only one race. I was taught that “racists” are basically stupid people.

When you assume you can stay 180 days and when getting the stamp no one inform you that it is only 26 days you can stay in the country, i would not blame him for his . This could have easily happened to me

@@anashasoldroxler5024 I do believe it could have happened to you, especially since you write things such as "lack of negligence" XD

I agree, the main reason was immigrants using Mexico as a way to get into the US.

I bet, lotta Russians been illegally crossing the US border from Mexico. Messed it up for all of us

I bet the US is paying them.

Bingo, blame the United States. Mexico is doing their bidding. Place the blame where it belongs. Also Mr. German man, take some responsibility. You broke the law. It's on you to know this information.

I agree with you

Oof. I was also planning to move down there to remote work and enjoy the different culture and food but we'll... I was worried about something like this happening w me and my kid. I didn't feel safe taking the trip w her in case something wierd like this happened. Gosh. Just trying to live and enjoy life and so much skeezy stuff everywhere. 😒 Glad you and your kid did t get stuck, scary experience tho, especially since you can't keep bag w you. Sounds like a set up for scams or theft. 😬

@@jul.escobar thanks. I lived in Panama for 3 years with my kids and I always felt much safer there than the States for many reasons. It's probably not nearly as interesting as Mexico but it was an incredible and unforgettable experience for all of us. Some people call it Latin America light because of the way the US was there for so long and how that influenced the culture. And when I was asked for paperwork by a cop in Panama and they discovered my Visa was expired, they simply gave me a ticket that I had to deal with. It wasn't my fault that my residency papers were delayed due to bureaucracy and the female cop accepted that, no problem.

@@TheKarmalien sounds a bit more reasonable way to deal with the issue and not life altering. Goodness! I've not heard much about Panama, kinda funny how some call it light 🤣 such a lovely feeling to feel safe. Glad y'all enjoyed it. I haven't left us yet and with all going on it's prob going to be a while. Was hopeful MX could be a new fun place for us. But we'll keep looking to. Give everything a few years to settle down, seems like so many struggles everywhere just to live. Def wanna hermit these days

Ecuador is too a great country to live

It’s always been at the discretion of the officer at arrival. Anything up to 1800 days. 180 has never been automatic. Although it sometimes may have seemed that way in the past. It’s a good idea to politely ask for the amount of days of need and have proof of how long you are staying and evidence of funds.

Great question. Typically, in San diego/Tijuana the Mexican border would try to make money 30 bucks selling that 6 month visa, for dudes who go in out mexico daily. Likely, or maybe, that is the same. Nobody will pay the 30 dollars for no reason.

It is the migration agent who determines it, according to your answers. It's like in the USA, on my previous trip to California the agent gave me 12 months, on my last trip, they gave me 6 months and the agent asked me why the previous one gave me 12 months, I answered the truth, I didn't know why.

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What BS have you experienced with this in the US?

Different types of BS in both countries. Immigration wise it was smooth sailing for me in Mexico with no issues since 1978. Other BS that affected me in Mexico was of my own making like the gentleman in the video. Immigration wise in the US, was me doing the paperwork and paying fees for my wife to become a citizen. In the US it wasn’t exactly what I expected. I thought it would be more difficult. The English language test was complete BS. My next door neighbor had difficulty studying for her US knowledge test I was helping her with. She could not answer or understand the test. She flunked the first time and a month later passed. No way she passed English proficiency legitimately. Last time I crossed the border at Laredo my buddy’s mom was using a US passport that had expire four years earlier. I was amazed she was doing it. Last time I crossed the border at Reynosa different buddy forgot his US passport and we crossed without an issue. I kind of think my disabled veteran license plate helped. Me and the border patrol guy talked army for a little bit and then he said have a nice day. My twin brother came away with the same conclusion I did after his Brazilian wife went through the immigration process. All they are doing is checking the box and collecting fees. Of course our experience is as citizens helping family members. Hopefully it is different in other situations.

@D's Poetic Diary you didnt learn ANYTHING from the video and posts... that kind of question should be ASKED TO RELEVANT AUTHORITIES. Not on youtube comments ffs.

I was thinking the same thing.

The difference is in the US there's actually a process that legally allows you to expedite things like that for an extra fee. That "expediting fee" that they wanted us to pay at Cancun INM goes straight into their pockets and if you don't pay the bribe, your application goes to the bottom of the pile.

Where I work, we have a couple of people from India, one from China and one from Brazil. They all had to have lawyers and spent thousands of dollars to live and work in the U.S. legally.

@@troy2478 yeah. I initially did it by myself. The US immigration agencies lost my application after it got approved. I had to do a “freedom of information act” through a lawyer. Then all these fees. The $1000 was some penalty or expedited thing that I could avoided to pay but it may had delayed my application of months. Immigration in the USA is so expensive, and foreign tourists are not really welcomed by immigration officers at the airport. They treat you like you are a potential criminal or illegal immigrant. Now I have dual citizenship, but law and immigration enforcement in the USA is never friendly.

@@TangerineTravels The other thing about Mexico is that immigration standards are different depending on what embassy you apply for a visa at. If one is in Houston, Texas or San Francisco, CA or in another country, the requirements are completely different. This is what I love about Panama, there is a consistency in the law, it is completely spelled out.

That's like something out of a horror movie!

I also heard a horror story about how in the US the health system is SOOOO bad that citizens literally go bankrupt or die because they got an infected toe nail... I guess they are not so different from Mexico, and even worse: they do it to their own tax-paying citizens. TERRIBLE!