6 Grand Suspension??? WP Cone Valve and TRAX Shock Install on KTM 250 XC

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Жыл бұрын

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@stevedouglas1654
@stevedouglas1654 Жыл бұрын
I’m here waiting on Sweepstakes Pros 😏
@carlatamanczyk3891
@carlatamanczyk3891 Жыл бұрын
I just install trail valving. Makes the bike work great for rocky technical riding fast or slow. And It didn't cost me anywhere close to 6 grand for Heaven sake Kyle. But if someone wants to spend 6 grand then foolish power to them.
@MrFritz6940
@MrFritz6940 Жыл бұрын
If you got the money, go for it. I have the same setup on my 22 xcw. Revalves on stock equipment are good. But when you have the "oh shit" moments in the rocks, the 4 grand extra you spend really shines
@noControl556
@noControl556 Жыл бұрын
I just pull off the swing arm, usually good time to grease it up anyway. If going to be putting premium shock on the bike might as well make sure all the linkage is clean and fresh to get the most out of it.
@jerrett73
@jerrett73 Жыл бұрын
you should do a comparison with the WP XPLOR PRO 7548 FORK/XACT PRO 8950 SHOCK VS OHLINS RXF 48 FORK/TTX FLOW DV SHOCK
@baggszilla
@baggszilla Жыл бұрын
Such a nice set! Hope it lasts you years!
@mattstewart2750
@mattstewart2750 Жыл бұрын
I've ridden a few set ups with cone valve, but I still prefer the KYB stuff. A set of Technical Touch inserts valved for my size and speed along with valving and re springing the stock shock made all the difference in the world on my 23 250XC. I know some folks like the air forks, I hate them. Leave those on the GG line and put cones or the new 6500 inserts in the KTM/Husq models.
@enduro-parts-aus
@enduro-parts-aus Жыл бұрын
+1 on the hate for air forks haha
@hachtenduro7824
@hachtenduro7824 Жыл бұрын
Lift the Forks 7.5mm (3rings show out) is same effect on trail as going from 22mm fork offset to 24mm and vice versa. Makes better handling but less stable. The effect is based on the change in front wheel trail. Best regards!
@noahstevens6427
@noahstevens6427 Жыл бұрын
I’d like to see your review of the Rieju Mr300 pro
@WildAzzRacing
@WildAzzRacing Жыл бұрын
It saddens me that so many think dropping several thousand dollars to get the suspension on a brand new bike to work well is somehow ok. How about the manufacturer actually equip the bike with something that works decent, not necessarily great, straight from the factory? I'll never understand how you KTM owners just accept this.
@woodysrockspyro6436
@woodysrockspyro6436 Жыл бұрын
I concur... won't buy another bike with wp or air.
@MichaelAbramo
@MichaelAbramo Жыл бұрын
That TM though
@coskier1969
@coskier1969 Жыл бұрын
I have a 23 Husqvarna tx300 I love the stiffer frame and suspension. I weigh 220 lb and I like the stiffer frame and suspension.
@REFLEX_421
@REFLEX_421 Жыл бұрын
Have the dal saggio suspension upgrade worth it for a weekend warrior.
@LarryParkerWilliams
@LarryParkerWilliams Жыл бұрын
Everybody poopooing here can go watch something else. Good information. Good to see videos from Kyle. Good to have a bike to ride. Period. Run what you brung if that’s what you’ve got but if you have the means and want to try something new, power to you. Keep up the good work Kyle.
@Thungur1337
@Thungur1337 Жыл бұрын
Tip for content. Buy a used bike. And try to make it as good as possible and then compare it to the newer bikes you get. Because most of us won’t be upgrading every year so for you to be able to compare it for us would be great.
@kirkbailey3552
@kirkbailey3552 Жыл бұрын
Next time Kyle, try just removing the pipe and silencer and then the shock will come out the top. Easy!!!
@ronaugelli2201
@ronaugelli2201 Жыл бұрын
My next bike will be blue , I would never spend this much on suspension upgrade. KTM needs to up it up stockwise
@jasonchapman6058
@jasonchapman6058 Жыл бұрын
I put Lucky's (from Slaven's) on the front, and an MXTech National on the back, of my '21 TE300, a set of WP6500s on the front and another National shock (both from Corey at ProTune), on my '18 FE501. Yes, they are a lot of money, but less than the $6k thumbnail of this video ($3k for the 300 -bought the shock used, and about $4k for the 501), and I also plan to use them on several bikes. The risk here is that they may not fit on the next generation of bike that I buy. Regardless, both bikes work VERY well and I think that the money is well spent. I have never ridden the cone valve forks, or traxx shock so I can't make a comparison to those, but both of my suspension set up (both are for different applications) are better than any other modified suspension that I have purchased, or even ridden (on other's bikes) previously. I look forward to seeing how you like your set-up. IMO modifying the suspension, and also ergonomics, are the best dollar value one can get on your bike.
@kurtheidelbach
@kurtheidelbach Жыл бұрын
Add the Ravens instead of Lucky and will be that much better
@Jordancapz
@Jordancapz 2 ай бұрын
Corey is the man
@Briank-ef5iq
@Briank-ef5iq Жыл бұрын
I’m a weekend warrior I don’t race so 6k in suspension deff not worth it ! Lol
@KoltFin
@KoltFin Жыл бұрын
Have you had your suspension worked over?
@Briank-ef5iq
@Briank-ef5iq Жыл бұрын
@@KoltFin just re sprug fro my weight set sag an played with clickers all good!!
@woodysrockspyro6436
@woodysrockspyro6436 Жыл бұрын
One trip to the er for a few stitches cost more than fancy suspension.... or the months off work from a bad get off.
@Briank-ef5iq
@Briank-ef5iq Жыл бұрын
@@woodysrockspyro6436 I’m set up just fine ! I ride every other weekend no issues yet
@marcspencer800
@marcspencer800 8 ай бұрын
@@woodysrockspyro6436hey man I have had Enzo a kit, rg3 a kit, and now cone valve wp stuff and I can honestly say all three have put me on the ground for a trip to the er.. 😂 suspension is absolutely the best mod a guy can do don’t get me wrong but I would be willing to bet 90% of guys out there couldn’t tell the difference between a kit vs stock stuff that’s had valuing, sag, and spring rate good..
@REFLEX_421
@REFLEX_421 Жыл бұрын
I am from South Africa love your video's I really wish i could enter your sweepstakes but every time it comes around I cant enter. Please try and make it international. Would love to compete.
@CraigSmith568
@CraigSmith568 Жыл бұрын
I am so new to riding I doubt if I would ever know the difference. Maybe worth looking into once I have more experience.
@MichaelAbramo
@MichaelAbramo Жыл бұрын
Most people who ride never get the full potential out of their stock bike. Get your stock suspension set up properly and don't even worry about cone valves
@brianlaible2339
@brianlaible2339 Жыл бұрын
Kyle, now that you have ridden the new closed cartridge forks on the 24 models would you purchase this premium pro components again? I did and now that I’ve ridden a 24 I wouldn’t consider spending that money on pro components.
@Rezenator10
@Rezenator10 Жыл бұрын
Are the new shock and forks xplor pros’?
@rglce25
@rglce25 Жыл бұрын
If your in 1st or 2nd gear most of the time id think you wouldnt need a 6k suspension set up but if you got the $$ go for it
@1272Randb
@1272Randb Жыл бұрын
For Kyle’s riding level. For my riding level. Waste of money.
@ryanemmerson3642
@ryanemmerson3642 Жыл бұрын
Still waiting for the unicorn !
@ryanemmerson3642
@ryanemmerson3642 Жыл бұрын
Why not just get a xcw ?
@andrecasanova3753
@andrecasanova3753 Жыл бұрын
He answers that one before : because he doesn’t like the gearing on xcw’s
@steadman154
@steadman154 Жыл бұрын
XCW is where it's at. I will never go back to an XC. Everyone is searching and spending money for plusher suspension that comes stock on the XCW. Soaks up everything with ease. I prefer the XCW gearbox as well, less shifting. I use mine for everything. Single track and moto.
@Mostviews111
@Mostviews111 Жыл бұрын
When is the drawing going to be done?
@stevedouglas1654
@stevedouglas1654 Жыл бұрын
Probably next Friday or Saturday ( 4/21 or 4/22 )
@samwittstruck.6685
@samwittstruck.6685 Жыл бұрын
KTM on sunday ATM on monday.
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium Жыл бұрын
Great video Kyle! 🙌 I was just wondering what was the problem of revalving the stock suspensions? At the end of the video you said something absolutely correct, which is that the valving is key to be able to have the suspensions dialed. However changing to premium/other suspensions won't make them automatically plusher or more comfortable if the revalve isn't the right one. Unfortunately that is a myth that is kept alive that makes a lot of people spend money they don't need. A proper adjustment/revalve of many stock suspensions is what most people need, not new suspensions. 😅 Just to clarify another point, the Cone Valve is probably the least suited feature for slower riding. It's an unbelievably technology for guys giving it the beans and bashing at stuff at great speeds. 💪 And yet another point, the premium PRO components are definitely the choice for someone...well, pro. The quality control and designs chosen are needed to allow the shock/forks keep their highest level of performance no matter the beating they get. That's what you get with the PRO line, but - like you said - if the valving is off, you can have gold platted suspensions that you won't get better at it in any way 👌 If you want to know more about it, I have a video dedicated to the Cone Valve and the Supertrax system is coming out in the next couple of weeks! 😄
@KTMmarkus
@KTMmarkus Жыл бұрын
He explained that that it will take him 3~ bikes to 'justify' the cost of the CV/Trax... Can you even buy the premium suspension without getting it revalved according to your specs/wishes?
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium Жыл бұрын
@@KTMmarkus if what you do suits the standard setting, sure!
@BSm2919
@BSm2919 Жыл бұрын
I can't afford a new bike, so I'm not at premium suspension yet.... All the same, it's cool to hear about!
@stevedouglas1654
@stevedouglas1654 Жыл бұрын
Yup. That’s why I enter all the bike giveaways. Can’t afford a $10K bike yet let alone $6K suspension. As long as my fork seals aren’t leaking and it doesn’t bottom out I’m good 😏
@BSm2919
@BSm2919 Жыл бұрын
@@stevedouglas1654 Ditto!
@jakewood4329
@jakewood4329 Жыл бұрын
So if u are changing your linkage on your bike too lower it an inch how much do u have to put your forks up on the triple trees!!!Anyone???...
@LarryParkerWilliams
@LarryParkerWilliams Жыл бұрын
I would level my bike on the stand and get a before and after measurement from your rear axle then make the same adjustment on your front by raising your forks. It's not a perfect science because your geometry is going to change slightly but it's close.
@kurtheidelbach
@kurtheidelbach Жыл бұрын
Should do MX Tech suspension review instead of that. At least the Raven forks which would be better then those.
@joelkauffman924
@joelkauffman924 Жыл бұрын
where’s the giveaway man it ended 17 days ago
@yukonjon5964
@yukonjon5964 Жыл бұрын
takes two weeks once the entries are in. so yeah any day.
@Pentonius
@Pentonius Жыл бұрын
He bought $6,000 suspension. No more giveaway 😂😂😂
@kimdouglas6987
@kimdouglas6987 Жыл бұрын
probably this coming Friday / Saturday ( 21st / 22nd )
@madMX96
@madMX96 Жыл бұрын
hope you got enduro version not MX.
@franckbrunie4759
@franckbrunie4759 10 ай бұрын
You did not answer. Stock XPlor ist not bad if properly set and you did not show it was worth the $$$$
@mixalis6168
@mixalis6168 Жыл бұрын
I doubt most most normal people need to spend so much money, as standard setup is fine !
@LaurenceHoneytoast
@LaurenceHoneytoast Жыл бұрын
Mx tech my guy
@youtubeaccount9058
@youtubeaccount9058 Жыл бұрын
If you'd rather ride a slightly easier trail, or slightly slower, you're a wimp. If you spend $6K to make the same trail slightly easier, or give you slightly more speed, you're a local hero.
@woodysrockspyro6436
@woodysrockspyro6436 Жыл бұрын
If I'm bending front rims from the rock impacts can I buy nicer stuff? My wp open chambers with the dal sagio still kind of suck at speed.
@BAYAREAMX
@BAYAREAMX Жыл бұрын
WP cone valve fork and Trax shock are a waste of money. I have them and in order to make them work well you take the cones out and install a conventional valve. Virtually every pro using cone valve forks doesn’t have cones in the fork anymore.
@ricardocasanova2440
@ricardocasanova2440 Жыл бұрын
are you joking?
@BAYAREAMX
@BAYAREAMX Жыл бұрын
@@ricardocasanova2440 not at all.
@HaveFunBikes
@HaveFunBikes Жыл бұрын
Come on man, SAG must be adjusted by spring rate with all clickers out, not compressoin!
@joelballard4955
@joelballard4955 2 ай бұрын
Unless your a professional racer you don’t need that stuff.
@majoy-osterlundfreeman5425
@majoy-osterlundfreeman5425 Жыл бұрын
Total waste of money 👎
@donproper3632
@donproper3632 Жыл бұрын
Man you got that right pay 13 grand out the door for a new KTM and then put $6,000 in man people got a hell of a lot more money to waste than I do
@craigsteinman9807
@craigsteinman9807 Жыл бұрын
you know what? KTM is bullshit ..15k for a bike with tier 2 suspension. the yamaha is far superior..and just as good as your upgraded suspension..gimme my yz any day..there is a reason why you see yz 250 smokers at the pro outdoor nationals and no ktms smokers
@olasod1
@olasod1 6 ай бұрын
WP, easily the worst suspension brand ever. There are chinese KYB copies that works better out of the box. You buy a +$12000 bike and need to rebuild it for $2000 just to get the bike to work properly. WP/KTM/HVA/GG should be ashamed for all those years with crappy suspension.
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