6 Most Important Dominant Scales And Hidden Tricks With Them

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Using different Dominant scales on dom7th Chords is one way we can make variations and add new sounds to our solos. In this video, I will go over the 6 basic scale choices you need to know for improvising over jazz standards and originals
For each of the scales I will go over what they are, the extensions or colors they add to the chord, and also an example of a really useful but less common idea that you can use when soloing over the chord.
These ideas or arpeggios are things that I have dug out from improvising and studying the music you can make with these scales and they really give a clear picture of the sound plus they make for interesting melodies.
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0:00 Intro
0:58 The Blues Scale Question?
1:15 #1 Mixolydian
1:48 Extensions
2:16 Constructing a great non-diatonic arpeggio
2:53 The Arepggio
3:03 Mixolydian chord voicings
3:20 Example of Lick / Analysis
3:55 #2 Dominant from Harmonic minor
4:29 Extensions
4:54 Constructing an arpeggio
5:21 b9b13 Chord Voicings
5:33 The Arpeggio
5:43 Mixolydian b9b13 Example / Analysis
6.34 #3 The Altered Scale
7:19 Extensions and Alterations in the scale
7:45 Altered Chord Voicings
8:06 The secret Altered Arpeggio
8:36 Altered Scale Example / Analysis
9:10 #4 Lydian Dominants
9:40 Extenstions and the 13th Arpeggio
9:58 Lydian Dom7th chord voicings
10:13 The Dom7th(#5) Arpeggio
10:45 Example Lydian Dominant
11:15 #5 Diminished Scale
11:46 Extensions and Alterations
12:21 Chord Voicings
12:34 The Overlooked Dom7th arpeggio
12:59 Diminished Dom7th Example / Analysis
13:26 #6 Whole-tone scale
14:06 The Extensions in the Whole-Tone scale
14:32 Chord Voicings
15:19 Whole-Tone Example / Analysis
15:55 Did I leave out a scale?
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@JensLarsen 6 жыл бұрын

Great Dominant scale or brilliant arpeggio? Leave a comment! 🙂

@xxczerxx 6 жыл бұрын

Mixolydian b6 is a great one, it just gives a nice augmented 5th air to a typical dominant sound, not entirely dissimilar from the b9b6 mixo you mentioned! Damn so many good ideas in this one, thanks again!!

@JensLarsen 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you Mac! True that 5th mode of melodic minor has a nice sound! I funny that it isn't more common, especially since it is in Autumn Leaves :)

@JensLarsen 6 жыл бұрын

That's not what I mean though. I don't think G blues sounds great on Dm7 G7 Cmaj7, in fact C blues will work much better.

@wigleboy 6 жыл бұрын

You know the blues scale was made to play over Dom chords, the b3 would be the the only avoid note if the tonic is the root of the Dom chord

@JensLarsen 6 жыл бұрын

You are thinking about the notes now. Try to play a G blues phrase in a II V I and compare it to a C blues phrase in the same place. I am pretty certain you will agree with me :) and on a side note: blues was not made to be played over dom7th chords. The original blues was mostly triads not dominants. That came later.

@musicpatricio 3 жыл бұрын

you are a true genius and best teacher around Jens! thanks for all your videos

@JensLarsen 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙂

@robertdouglas4293 5 жыл бұрын

Jens, you have my respect.

@Blizite 6 жыл бұрын

Very useful stuff. Amazing how many cool sound you can get within the dominant sound. Thanks!

@JensLarsen 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you Trevor! Yes it is a place where there are a lot of colors to choose from! Do you have a favourite?

@ubuntuposix 4 жыл бұрын

i'm only jazz-curious , but the way i understand it is you can pretend like you're in minor, when the chords suggest you should be in major. (sometimes using an b2 like you're not in a straight minor (aeolian) but frygian). it may be an oversimplification which loses some details, but imo you gain the LOGIC of the melody. you keep the meaning (function) of the individual tones thus creating a coherent meaningful melody. The dominant chord itself is a mix between the 2(major-minor), because the 3suggests major while b7 suggest minor, thus this trick of blues that you can get away with pretending you're in minor, because the chord somewhat supports that.

@JensLarsen 4 жыл бұрын

If you want to really make music with it then you do need to learn to hear it and not rely on tricks though. It is not that useful to think something that doesn't fit with what you hear for that 🙂

@anthonydemitre9392 6 жыл бұрын

Diminished patterns are my easy go too, Thanks great lesson!

@JensLarsen 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Anthony! Dim scales are indeed very handy, and sometimes quite surprising in a solo :)

@MultiLakica 4 жыл бұрын

Great Jens....You are my favorite guitar teacher....Very intelegent strategy in jazz sense...Thanks for help us...

@JensLarsen 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Glad you like the videos 🙂

@l.felipez.s.3952 3 жыл бұрын

muchas gracias maestro, muy buena explicación !! saludos desde Cali-Colombia

@JensLarsen 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you like it! :)

@-Atmos1 5 жыл бұрын

I will have to watch this quite a few times ,,, great for soloing.cool.

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mike 👍🙂

@jumemowery9434 6 жыл бұрын

Great as always!! Thanks!!

@JensLarsen 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks you Jume! Alway nice to know you dig it! 🙂

@composer7325 6 жыл бұрын

Excellent video.Thank you.

@JensLarsen 6 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear you like it Peter! 🙂

@papasmamas1 Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@necemer 3 жыл бұрын

Hello Great Video, as always Thank you Greetings Tom

@johnnydessi8567 6 жыл бұрын

great lesson!

@JensLarsen 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you Johnny!

@robertdouglas4293 5 жыл бұрын

Chet baker, does that with his horn, Awesome Jens!

@Shuzies 6 жыл бұрын

Jens....These are fun colors to have in my solos ....thank you for your time....ron

@JensLarsen 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you Ron! :) I am surprised you don't have some more exotic options to suggest 😄

@Shuzies 6 жыл бұрын

In time....still a newby

@robertdouglas4293 5 жыл бұрын

Its very hard to explain, or express, but, feelings hard to equate to the math involved. Music wise, My dad would have been on his way to the big band era, than ww2 occured. we get to play because of sacrifice. glad to see you here!

@sebleb3133 4 жыл бұрын

Des sonorités nouvelles pour moi, à la fois hypnotiques mais également difficile à entendre et donc intégrer. Sans doute d’autres vidéos traitent elles du même sujet, et personnellement j’entends plus facilement sur un G7, un Am ou encore un Fm75- ou la substitution tritonique, Db7 5- pour résoudre sur C. J’avoue que j’ai du mal à m’y retrouver avec la notation de toutes les extensions. En tous les cas bravo pour cette ( ces) video(s) extrêmement enrichissantes.

@juan_belen 5 жыл бұрын

Jens, excelent lesson! i'm going to move to The Hague in march, i hope i can take a personal lesson with you!

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much Juan! I hope to see you in the Hague! Though I can't really fit anymore private students into my schedule :)

@justinlee9756 6 жыл бұрын

Wow! Brilliantly done I feel silly for not seeing the flat five a whole step below(fM7b5 )and step and a half above( Bb7b5) Duhhh no wonder why the blues scale works so greatly I mean its in the G dominate So nice to hear those colors!!

@JensLarsen 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you! The Bb chord is a Bb7(b5) not a maj7 though? 🙂

@renesongs 6 жыл бұрын

Great lesson, definitely a way for me to explore new territory. My standard approach to dominant chords is to use either or both the pentatonic Major and Minor scales as a framework and then add #5 or b3 (the blue notes). I feel the blues scales have a strong melodic minor feel to them. Also I see dominant chords as the joker in diatonic harmony because it has both a major and a minor face to it.

@JensLarsen 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you Rene! That's interesting! How does the blues sound like melodic minor? 🙂

@renesongs 6 жыл бұрын

I feel that the lydian dominant mode of the melodic minor scale and the blues minor scale share a lot of colours or notes particularly the #4 to b7 relationship. Being a bluesman at heart I see that as my quick cheat to getting a lydian dominant feel over the 7th chord.

@JensLarsen 6 жыл бұрын

Ok! Fair enough! I am not 100% sure I agree with you on that, but that's not too important 🙂👍

@eternalrainbow-cj3iu 5 жыл бұрын

Pentatonic on the bIII will work on Ldian dominat I guess, but on the first stepp it will work because of the +5 for instance on blue bossa C blues scale on the G7+5 also the F# works as a bebop tone!and we have the #9 as a bonus!

@lu0nline 6 жыл бұрын

Hey Jens! Big fan of your work. Lately I've been trying to practice ii-V-I progressions staying in the same (or adjacent) position by exploring different chord voicings for each chord. At first trying to play them without extensions or tensions, and then adding them aiming at interesting voice leading ideas. Do you have any video relating to some similar approach? I would love to see it.

@JensLarsen 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you Luan! I have stuff like that in some of my Drop2 voicing videos and also this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bbaSgJR3nbnUioE.html It is not exactly that approach though 🙂

@AshishGershom 6 жыл бұрын

Just superb.. I like d dim amazing

@JensLarsen 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you Ashish! 🙂

@evyatar451 2 жыл бұрын

Also an awesome and common scale for dominant chords - dorian b9

@JensLarsen 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, but strictly speaking it is not a dominant scale since there is no major 3rd

@robertdouglas4293 5 жыл бұрын

I love how that translates to a horn and back.

@jimkangas4176 6 жыл бұрын

Nice job, Jens. One minor typo - at 11:49 on the Dim scale graphic you have an Ab but label it as a 9 instead of b9. Lots of good ideas here - esp the characteristic arps. I sometimes use one of these approaches but move up/down in m3's, so using dim structure with other arps/chords.

@JensLarsen 6 жыл бұрын

True that is a typo :) It's a long video so I included a few :)

@scottmilner 6 жыл бұрын

Jens, I am working hard on absorbing this lesson, like I do on many of your video lessons. So much information that it takes me weeks, nay months! sometimes to begin to apply... but I follow the logic of your presentations well...but Sometimes the lack of emphasis (in diction?) on certain important points leads me to skip them, only to go back later and realize how important they are! Pacing leaves me behind sometimes. Still the best stuff on the web. I was curious if you had regard for Emily Remler's rather simple take on the altered scale (she calls it "jazz minor" 1/2 step above the V), its use with resolving V7, and using "jazz minor" scale on the 5th of the dominant for non-resolving V7. Those were seminal ideas for me, now I am gradually expanding my vocabulary in solo lines and comping thru your systematic approach. Very interested to see your forthcoming book. One other problem I am having is I dont want to write out examples...too tedious. I try to find a logic in your examples that I can lift and apply. Sometimes I can. But often I am left guessing about your choice of scale fragments or arpeggios within the examples. So some "easy" generalities toward successful construction that can be applied on the fly would be helpful to me. finally, I wish it was a little easier to grasp your concept of arpeggios versus chord voicings (solo line versus comping?) Thanks very much.

@JensLarsen 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Scott! I am really glad you like the videos and put the stuff to use! I think Emily Remlers description of altered dominants and lydian dominants is ok, but it will only give you a scale and you still have to figure out how to play over those dominants with that scale. :) For the rest I think your approach to assimilate and use the concept behind my examples is a great way to work. There are things where where you want to copy others playing but that is not in exploring scales and arpeggios I think! Actually my concept between comping and soloing is very fluid so there is no description of where one ends and the other begins!

@robertpowell9618 3 жыл бұрын

There are other scale choices, what about Phrygian and Aeolian over a Dominant 7 chord...Bebop scale as well. Thank you for sharing some of your wonderful knowledge

@alej3795 6 жыл бұрын

Great

@JensLarsen 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you Aleksandar 🙂

@obus4186 5 жыл бұрын

Number 2 is similar to a Tritone substitute with the difference being the #5 instead of b5, if I'm not mistaken. Although I haven't been able to use the Tritone sub successfully yet , so maybe this is what I should use. Thanks for the info.

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

I think you will find that #3 is even more similar to the tritone dominant 🙂

@railcar123 6 жыл бұрын

Once again, Jens produces a very useful lesson. Know of any scale that covers two dominant chords a whole step apart, ("Killer Joe") other than the whole tone or the 5th mode of melodic minor??

@JensLarsen 6 жыл бұрын

Not really I am afraid. But the point of that song is also to go with the changes, at least that is what I hear them do? 🙂

@omcho89 6 жыл бұрын

Fantastic lesson Jens, thank you! I basically try to use these scales, although I am not able to use these tricky structures (arpeggios) within scales, most of the time I try to play some sort of pattern (especially for whole tone scale actually). Fretboard overview still represents big hold up for me unfortunately... Take care!

@JensLarsen 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Omar! If fretboard overview is a limitation I would probably suggest leaving out the last two and focus on the other 4. That will build a stronger more useful fretboard overview to start with. Maybe this is something to take up in the Patreon FB group? Maybe there is something I can suggest in terms of exercises?

@omcho89 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jens, that is a great idea :), definitely I will think about it (to be fair, I am lacking some basic stuff, stabillity in all note location and much more, quickly naming notes of arpeggios etc), but even to have that option is fantastic!

@JensLarsen 6 жыл бұрын

I have a student that didn't show, so. I will make a quick video and upload it to FB when I get home 🙂

@omcho89 6 жыл бұрын

Jens Larsen fantastic, thank you!

@sakules 6 жыл бұрын

wow this comes just when i decided i would spend the whole week focused on dominants and myxolydian stuff. thanks jens

@JensLarsen 6 жыл бұрын

That's great Lucas! Good luck with it! Do you have some favourite tricks? Like G7: Dm6 pentatonic, Fmaj7(b5), E7sus4?

@guillecaminer 5 жыл бұрын

Great video Jens! Thanks! Question: the arpeggio Eb7(#5), why isn't a diatonic arpeggio in G altered?

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

Because a diatonic arpeggio is a stack of 3rds, and Eb7(#5) is not a stack of 3rds in that scale 🙂

@bernieriegger7447 Жыл бұрын

Hi Jens. in example #5, the G diminished 7, you show the scale as being G,A,Bb,B,C#,D,E,F and in the arpeggio example you show G,B,D,F,Ab,C#,E, and numerically as 1,3,5,b7,9,#11,13 with the 9 being the Ab (which differs from the scale example), which I'm thinking is a b9 (hopefully I'm not going insane studying music theory, lol). The scale example contains the A, but is an Ab in the arpeggio example and in your chord examples you use the Ab. Please clarify. I learned a 7dim scale which we called the symmetrical dominant scale starting on the 8th degree of the diminished scale. It alternated between half and whole steps. 1,b9,#9, 3,#11,5, 6,b7, or ST,T,ST,T,ST,T,ST. Thank You

@googlekopfkind Жыл бұрын

I noticed that too. I think he just forgot to put a 'b' before the a

@Benfreidkin22 2 жыл бұрын

Hey! Love your channel and this video. I think you left out G7b13 that has a natural 9.

@JensLarsen 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! That would be whole-tone scale.

@Benfreidkin22 2 жыл бұрын

@@JensLarsen not necessarily, it can be mixolydian b13.

@JensLarsen 2 жыл бұрын

@@Benfreidkin22 Yes, but you asked if I left it out, right?

@bobblues1158 6 жыл бұрын

Did you mention C ascending melodic minor over G9+5? Thank you very much for your tutorials and your enthusiasm!

@JensLarsen 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I didn't, it's not that common. Which is why I left it out 🙂 Do you use it a lot?

@bobblues1158 6 жыл бұрын

Yes, i like the sound of it. I can´t explain why!

@JensLarsen 6 жыл бұрын

The explanation isn't important if it sounds good :)

@shroomgag3940 3 жыл бұрын

What’s the amp ? That’s a golden craft , Thanx!

@bernieriegger7447 Жыл бұрын

Hi Jens, With the altered scale, when would you use the b5 in the chord? The reason I ask is in the examples you showed you didn't include the b5, you used the 3 and the b7 and the b13 and #9 and when would you use the b9? I assume you wouldn't play the #9 when using the b9? There just seems to be a lot of permutations of the chords you can use with this scale. Thanks. Awesome video

@JensLarsen Жыл бұрын

With an altered dominant you are free to combine different notes, and using both b9 and #9 is possible, just a bit difficult to voice-lead or play

@josdurkstraful 7 ай бұрын

Blues scale works good on non functioning aka static dominants.

@Magmetal1 6 жыл бұрын

Hej Jens, tak for de mange gode tips! Har du været med på/lavet nogle plader man kan høre? :)

@JensLarsen 6 жыл бұрын

Hej Magnus! Tusind tak! Det har jeg da! Der nogle Spotify Playlists her: jenslarsen.nl/media-en/audio/ og jeg har da også en discografi side på mit website!

@andreasalustri9703 6 жыл бұрын

great overview...I was trying to understand why the lydian sound does not resolve (means G7#11 -> Cmaj7 does not work well?) though there is 3, 7 that could resolve to root and 3 , and ..the #11 but could resolve to the tonic..??

@JensLarsen 6 жыл бұрын

Yes it is not that it can't resolve I am really just speaking about how it is used in jazz, which is very rarely on a Dom7th that resolves

@Maynard0504 3 жыл бұрын

Phrygian dominant is essential if you want to sound middle-eastern

@JensLarsen 3 жыл бұрын

Which is why it is #2 on the list :)

@Ncarlos07 3 жыл бұрын

Hello Master! Could you please leave the You Tube translation option active? I'm sure that the knowledge will be better used! Many people, who are not very fluent in the English language, would appreciate it! Thank you for your kindness!

@JensLarsen 3 жыл бұрын

It is active, if it isn't working then it is a glitch in YT. I never turn that off, why would I?

@edwardaviles6665 3 жыл бұрын

I think there should be a b9 at the 11:26 scale

@hanslub3180 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, it confused me for a while (although I should have listened more closely: Jens is clearly playing an A♭ there)

@nonamed_9407 6 жыл бұрын

Hi. Great lesson again. Im actually practicing melodic minor a lot, and seeing how it fits over chords. Love it so far. I have lots of questions about it though, but this time I want to ask you a simple one. I remember you said once that playing the arpeggio of the chord placed a diatonic 3rd above the root of the actual sounding chord was the most natural and basic arpeggio substitution. Is that also true in melodic minor? I mean... If you play G7 as it was the 4th mode of the melodic minor scale, then the Bm7b5 arpeggio (6th degree of melodic minor) is the target. And if you play G7 as it was the 7th mode of the melodic minor scale, then the Bbm7 arpeggio (2nd degree of melodic minor) is the target. Is this a correct approach? Thank you very much.

@JensLarsen 6 жыл бұрын

The thing to remember is that G7 is not a diatonic chord in Ab melodic minor so that doesn't really work there 🙂 but the arpeggio from the third of the chord : Bmaj7#5 does actually work quite well..

@nonamed_9407 6 жыл бұрын

but how come is not diatonic to a melodic minor scale?.. i mean, you do use the 4th or 7th mode (depending on whether is functional or static), and the 4th and 7th degree of a melodic minor scale can create a dominant 7th chord (maybe not always through stacks of thirds, but still, it can). And if it's not diatonic to a melodic minor scale, then, what scale does it belong to?

@JensLarsen 6 жыл бұрын

Diatonic meaning a stak of 3rds in the scale. The diatonic chord on G is half diminished

@brennanlable 5 жыл бұрын

the progression is in C major but its borrowing extensions from the melodic minor scale on the dominant so it's C's dominant not melodic minor's. we are only briefly playing in melodic minor to high-lite some interesting colors on the chord for tension before it performs it's chordal function usually resolving to C. so if you wanted to you could just modulate into melodic minor from there but then it wouldn't quite be functioning as a dominant anymore and that's what the video is all about :) hope i got that right Jens thanks for the video!

@cesarmateus3490 Жыл бұрын

Ab needs to be notated in the Dim. scale...you have A natural.

@agustingonzalez2267 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Jens, do you have a video where you talk about the two modes of the diminished symmetric scale? I understand that the possibilities are ST-T, T-ST but I do not quite understand how and in what context they are applied over and over and how to make them differentiate between them. Thank you!

@JensLarsen 4 жыл бұрын

I don't have that. If you want to use a scale over a chord then the chord has to be in the scale. If you think like this there is no confusion. Essentially the diminished scale is applied to a dominant chord or a dim chord, everything else is a special effect.

@agustingonzalez2267 4 жыл бұрын

@@JensLarsen thanks!

@eternalrainbow-cj3iu 5 жыл бұрын

|n Prhygian dominant situations a 11 will work with b9(also when the 3 7 are in accomping, )not so much used... so I mean not E7 going to Cmaj Phrygian dominant but Phrygian scale G Ab Bb C D Eb F upon G7(+5), if you agree please let me know...

@BillyJ57 2 жыл бұрын

Jens great lesson. However I am having a hard time keeping up with some of this. Building arpeggios on the modes and extensions is a bit too advanced for me. How did you learn all this? And what do I need to get there? Is there a pdf file for this lesson?

@JensLarsen 2 жыл бұрын

This does indeed require you to have a good overview of these scales. I think that is the kind of stuff you do once you have a few jazz standards you can play by heart? I don't remember if you can do that? The PDF is here: www.patreon.com/posts/6-most-important-18661389

@BillyJ57 2 жыл бұрын

@@JensLarsen I have songs like Satin Doll, Blue Bossa , Autumn Leaves down. Also Killer Joe, Cold Duck Time, Green Dolphin St. However, I may not have chord progressions down as well as I should.

@JensLarsen 2 жыл бұрын

@@BillyJ57 ah ok. I think you did indeed tell me that earlier, sorry. Ok. Then this is about taking one of those scales and getting used to the sound, really digging into the material and finding ways of using this. It is a huge amount of information if you are new to it, and you can easily spend a month on each scale if you are not used to it :)

@arnavvaid2386 4 ай бұрын

Thanks I'll play around with these, but what would you do over a dom9 over something like this: Dmin9 E7#5 Amin7 D#dom9 ? Pentatonic stuff kinda works over the first three but not on the turnaround

@JensLarsen 4 ай бұрын

For the Eb7 in that? Probably search for Tritone substitution 🙂

@dapitoni 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Jens! I can understand where the arpeggio is derived from, for example to form the sound of Gb9b13 (7th degree of G altered). But, where does Fmaj7 (b5) come from to generate the sound G Mixolidian sound?

@JensLarsen 3 жыл бұрын

It comes from the C major scale, but it is not really a diatonic stack of 3rds in the scale.

@dapitoni 3 жыл бұрын

@@JensLarsen ok! Thanks! Great data and videos! Salute from Argentina!

@googlekopfkind Жыл бұрын

I don't know what the scale is called, but I also like to use G, A♭, B, C, D, E, F instead of octatonic scale (its a mode in harmonic major). Especially when playing a sus chord like G, A♭, C, E, F

@googlekopfkind Жыл бұрын

One can also use an bB instead of a B and it still feels like a dominant sus chord to me

@sebastiankotlinski7352 6 жыл бұрын

at 12:09 ur talking about a b9 but n the diagram is a 9. thats a mistake isn't it? btw, awesome lesson, thank you very much Jens! :)

@JensLarsen 6 жыл бұрын

I am sure it is! I am very good in making mistakes!

@abaaba1509 6 жыл бұрын

Hey Dude! Great vid, as always :) I really enjoy watching your videos and i thought it's time to drop a comment. You always focus on music-making and not on self-presentation like so many other youtubers. Keep it up mate! ...might be a bit off-topic, but what do you think of Hal Galper's Forward Motion? Greetings from a german jazz pianist :)

@JensLarsen 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad you like it! I was taught based on the Forward motion principles (I guess?) you can check out my target note videos to see how I use it. I never read his books though so how close my approach really is I am not sure. But I think it's probably a very solid method!

@abaaba1509 6 жыл бұрын

yeah, I think every good jazz musician with experience uses it instinctively. For me, when I was new to jazz, it was very hard to figure out why many of my lines sounded bad, although I was using the 'right' scales/chordtones. his book really blew my mind and I wish I would have found it before I went to music college haha :D despite I've been teached by many very different jazz professors I've never came across such an easy and logic way to understand why some lines sound awesome and others don't :D

@cesarmateus3490 Жыл бұрын

How about the Type III Dominant? G Ab Bb B D Eb F?

@chau560902 2 жыл бұрын

hi,How do i arrange the notes on G7 with altered scale when singing and without bass player ,then end on C ? i must play bass note G first ,then scale notes?

@JensLarsen 2 жыл бұрын

What are you asking exactly?

@chau560902 2 жыл бұрын

@@JensLarsen fill in. should one people play bass and solo ?

@JensLarsen 2 жыл бұрын

@@chau560902 if you are soloing in a band you don't need to.

@sixstringswl 6 жыл бұрын

Idk if it's appropriate for what you're looking for... I'm more rock than anything. To me, it's a matter of taste. I personally, in some cases like the idea of the third rub sometimes. I would have to say I'd use the blues scale... From there it's a sure bet I'd feel adventurous and try Dorian too. Literally the same scale as mixolydian but a minor version. Isn't the dominant the most flexible chord anyway? ...having both major and minor elements?

@sixstringswl 6 жыл бұрын

And yes, I get the tritone thing of the 3&7.

@JensLarsen 6 жыл бұрын

That makes a lot of sense! Though then you are probably playing on a dominant that is modal or lasting a few bars and not as a part of a moving progression 🙂

@sixstringswl 6 жыл бұрын

Lololol!!!! Yes, your pretty quick as usual. In rock or metal its common place for me to have a melodic phrase that when connected to an underlying chord structure completes the chord, but maybe in arpeggio form. This underlying chord structure changes to mimic a progression. Say, Dm9, G13, C7/6. What ever it is. However, when playing over it I tend to view the fret board as a grid made of 7th chords. In the same way I see the key as one thing I see the arpeggio. In this text the scale is played every other note. Until the 7th obviously. 2,1,2 or 1,2,1 patterns on adjacent strings. Through the chord scale I can compare every other 7th chord to an inversion of the original chord it resolves to. Each position of each chord adding an additional upper extension or color tone. Sounds convoluted. The best way i can explain it is a grid. I'm new to jazz, but I'm catching on ... I hope.... I love the walking bass stuff.

@JensLarsen 6 жыл бұрын

I think you will find that the blues sound in the dominant is not that strong when the dominant is really part of a cadence. Mostly because we really need that leading note 🙂

@sixstringswl 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your responses. I was thinking about it being represented in che chord progression. These subtle differences are why I in particular always sound like a rocker mimicking something else. Haha! Like bad amp modeling. So you might favor either a diminished, harmonic or melodic minor borrowed mode, chord, arpeggio if not the basic mixolydian I'm guessing... ?

@robertdouglas4293 5 жыл бұрын

You dont seem like a bad guy, Math

@robertdouglas4293 5 жыл бұрын

My Apologies, not good at explaining tears or emotions, just know that I respect stuff you have learned over a life time.

@plumhunter9158 6 жыл бұрын

I don't think of the Blues scale as being related to the dominant chord - more the tonic.

@JensLarsen 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks, glad I am not alone in that 🙂

@jokergang8546 6 жыл бұрын

jens ,μου προτειναν να παω στην Ολλανδια να σπουδασω για να ανοιξω περισσοτερο το μυαλο μου αλλα δεν υπαρχει μια.Ευτυχως που υπαρχεις εσυ(χωρις να θελω να σε αγχωσω)

@JensLarsen 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I hope you find what you are looking for :)

@guilhordas 4 жыл бұрын

Is that dim scale a dominant diminished??

@JensLarsen 4 жыл бұрын

There is really only one dim scale. I think you can see which root it has from the notes I am using 🙂

@guilhordas 4 жыл бұрын

@@JensLarsen I thought there were 2. diminished scale and dominant diminished scale (started halftone above diminished) G G# Bb B Db E F F#

@JensLarsen 4 жыл бұрын

@@guilhordas It's the same scale, no real need to make a distinction.

@robertdouglas4293 5 жыл бұрын

I apologize if I have offended, you like Len Breau?

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

I am not offended :) I am not that into Lenny Breau, but I also don't know too much of his work. The solo guitar stuff is usually not what I think is great

@MattBrillant 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Robert, Lenny, Ted Greene, Joe Pass (..........) even Mr Rosenwinkel... It's the tradition in Jazz to play solo Guitar, I Love them all and i think We have to show respect, for what they have or are still doing, even if we're not into solo guitar , cause that " s u f f " is really Great ! and it's a big, very big challenge to improve your capability of making music. Peace and Love and Harmony.

@robertdouglas4293 5 жыл бұрын

Well said Matt!@@MattBrillant

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

@@MattBrillant I don't think it is disrespectful, to be honest about not wanting to spend hours or days on making a video that is not what I find great. Do you?

@MattBrillant 5 жыл бұрын

@@JensLarsen With all my respect i think there's a misunderstanding here, i didn't ask you to do anything that you're not able to. Solo guitar is a great "Stuff" even if you're not into. When you'll get older and more experienced (talking about the playin, not those youtube stuff) you'll be able to understand the challenge and the chill of playing solo guitar. Peace Love and Harmony may fall on all of us.

@robertdouglas4293 5 жыл бұрын

Thats ok, What I meant was, If I am capable, there needs to be an end. whats is important , resolution in terms of letting your listener know you care about them. Im not very explainfull, Sorry Jens, Sometimes, its just a point to ask yourself, have you fufilled stuff, If, you can make someone cry a t the end,

@robertdouglas4293 5 жыл бұрын

Do me a very small favor , could you talk about what folks think as soft, and hardness, to express resolution, at the end of what the heart expresses, so your fans understand.

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

I am not sure I understand what you are talking about?