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Remember when he was getting beat by 2 seconds at the hands of Ted Ligity and would be so knackered he could hardly breath during the podium interviews? The magic of the weight room!

True all that you said. Plus if he is on race skis in this video, which is likely, they cannot be bought by anyone and they are designed for one thing. It is possible to ski them somewhat normally but they are a handful if they are in race tune. Also within the race dept the very best skis go to the very best racers, so he is skiing on the very best available doing what he does that virtually no one else on the planet can do. I cannot really criticize that.

@@wilkiegj if they are in fact FIS race skis he’d be handicapped by artificial geometry requirements that would make extreme edge angulation harder. Many of these broken rules are being regularly employed in the race course and be handled competently

Sorry hit publish too fast. These are being employed by moderately competent junior racers and can be replicated on consumer level race inspired skis.

Spot on the aft tail pressure / rebound kick was all the rage in the '90's SL technique pre-carving skis. Hirscher is doing exactly this, but updated for the modern era.

@@busterkirkwood Yes, this video is just Marcel having fun and chilling out. He doesn't race this way, with the caveat that with bomber quads and 60-80 mph, you will find yourself pushed back at that 90 degree angle, but when they are, they are really reaching forward and squeezing the abdominals not to fall. As an expert skier, I can do things that I wouldn't teach, but that's because of all the other skills that go into being an expert.

He’s a little sloppy with his hand position but almost everything else he does in the race course. You won’t find a video of him skiing in ski instructor form because it isn’t actually efficient.

Or... It could be a sort of a pendulum momentum tactic to aid with foreafts and increase speed

I love it!

Glad you liked it! I love this skiing too!

he's one of my favourite too!

Really interesting insight. Thanks for sharing :)

Yes just learn what is possible for you... Not many people can ski like Hirscher does here, and just have fun!

@@ReillyMcGlashan For me the fundamental question is whether young skiers who are starting to develop their technique should be taught the "right" fundamentals or instead let them find what works best for them even if it is unorthodox.

@@xcubos I think that is up to the coach or instructor to help guide the student to help them learn what "is possible for them personally" as Francesco said. I will only ever teach one of my students what they need to learn to get better... I am not teaching people crazy techniques left field to throw them off (unless they are at that level and it is what they want)... Every student is different and also have different goals, but the takeaway is finding the techniques that make skiing the most enjoyable for you... If skiing a green run all day in a wedge makes you happy and you don't want to learn anything else then hey, who am I to say it's wrong... All i could do would be to encourage them to at least want to get to parallel as it is easier on the legs. 🤷‍♂️

Glad you enjoyed it!

Thank you! Glad you enjoy it!

2010 Val d'Isere, sheer exuberance, watched in slow motion (0.25 speed) it's awesome how little of the distance is spent in contact with the snow (which has a certain lack of control ! but he's choosing exactly when to extend and establish that contact): kzfaq.info/get/bejne/as-DfbeLm5nKiYk.html

Great video and comments. A ski day isn’t complete without some snappy rebounds on the Racetigers!, just saying

Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed them

Much appreciated

Thanks mate! I appreciate the comment. You are making some great stuff too!

@@ReillyMcGlashan Thanks, mate!

Glad you enjoy it!

Thanks Marius!

😂💪

To own the right to break the rules first you master it.... No shortcuts

@@peterchapko2638 good one! 🙌

Stop the music! It is distracting. Thanks for the video!

So true!

thanks mate

Yes, exactly

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Well said!

Glad you liked it!

thanks daniel

when i ski a FIS SL ski i end up in the backseat at the end of a turn a lot too . could it be that those skis are just too stiff for their length for "fun" skiing. (and Hirscher is a big dude too)

It isn’t really that subjective. His style is optimized for getting down a set course as quickly as possible.

Yes they are!

Thank you! 👍

Glad you enjoyed it

Cross over.

@@jamesdunn9714 Cross under

You're welcome!

yes it definitely does happen

@@ReillyMcGlashan it happen just because these movements are customisations of personal skiing styles, known as unbalanced movement to increase momentum at the end of the turn, increasing speed. You can teach these movements just to really high skilled skiers, otherwise a intermediate/high skilled skier will crash for sure. A skilled ski instructor teaching to a person, let say just for 3 hours, can't even mention about this stuff, is just way more important to teach to gain more control. If someone is interested to learn this stuff is way better to join a ski team or at least take a proper amount of ski lessons. Racing skiing and slope skiing are completely different things.

Glad you enjoyed! and good luck with your first year FIS. 😊

Thanks for reading the disclaimer! I am glad you can see it is just a little bit of fun this video... Nothing to be taken seriously, just some entertainment and watching a master at work on the hill

He does most of these things in the race course too. The way he transitions knee bend and edge contact, getting back seat. It’s maybe even a little more stylized here but he’s taking what’s fast in the race course to free skiing. I’d anything I think he’s pointing out that some of the ski instructor stuff is becoming over stylized and not functional.

Glad you enjoyed it

@@ReillyMcGlashan Absolutely just used this video in my ski coaching this morning lol

He's a super athlete for sure as well.

Can I just add that most ski instructors are not in any sense great or even good skiers, in my opinion that is.

@@stevebag3720 glad i live in austria, all ski instructors i know are insane skiers. even the "young" ones are really good one of which is a friend of mine, (hes 21). another good friend is a snowboard instructor (22), and hes really really good aswell. sad to hear youve had bad experience with instructors.

@@stevebag3720 It depends. Many are very, very good indeed.

I think the saying goes "if it ain't broke don't fix it" 😂... He is an innovator in line choice on this new equipment... The fast people realise and accept the movements, the right people will be able to incorporate some of this into their skiing. Albeit the "right" person.

@@ReillyMcGlashan fair enough :-) I guess that the man's results do all his talking for him! Thanks for the great videos!

The clock!!! Many skiers look great but you need to be fearless and fast.

Yes that is what is is all about... 😊

@@ReillyMcGlashan We Like you even more when you 're funny!!! Keep us funny and informed...

He skis like this on iced World Cup courses too!

Maybe you are Hirscher!

Only insofar that we both have Dutch blood.

he is the GOAT!

thanks :) happy you liked it

I agree! I would never teach beginner or intermediates or even people "starting" to be able to go into the advanced realm of skiing what hirscher is doing.... it is just a fun lighthearted video...

I wonder with some people 😂

@@ReillyMcGlashan so true.

He does make his "mistakes" look great!

By pushing myself to ski faster and to turn quicker, my completely unskischooled body learned a ski technique that worked in nearly all snow conditions (this was back in the 60's and 70's). That technique is a whole lot like what Marcel is doing in this video. You are correct though, the one condition it doesn't work in is on polished, porcelain like, glare ice. There you need to be centered over the skis because you never know when even your sharp edges won't hold a carved turn and suddenly let go into a sideways skid (or into a spin-out if you are too far forward, or too far back). I love my slalom racing skis for their excellent edge grip on most ice, and for their great carving ability (I managed two carve two circles on frozen spring slush with one momentum on them (twice in three tries). On the first try my cell phone started ringing and in trying to answer it, I stalled out at the top of the second circle). This was at an early freestyle skiers reunion at Park City in 2014, at the age of 68. Those racing skis are way too springy to use at high speed through moguls though, because that springy rebound throws you much higher up into the air, after being bent way down into a trough in the moguls (rebounding upwards results in much harder and a much less accurately placed landing). What you want in moguls is to stay as low a possible, your butt just missing the mogul top and your head sometimes almost between your knees. That keeps your skis on the snow as much as possible for better control. Slalom ski rebound is great on a rutted slalom course because the rebound then springs you back and forth, from rut to rut, and through the gates much quicker. With far less springy skis, this sitting back technique also works best in moguls, as well. Your skis and feet fend off the bumps ahead and it is much easier to recover from being too far back than it is from being too far forward. Sitting back in powder lets your skis ramp up in it and then porpoise up out and dive back in to the powder with each turn. Carving turns is easy when sitting back because with more pressure on the ski tails they resist skidding sideways.

I think it's important to note that while Hirscher is in the "back seat" the skis are not loaded (ie. under pressure). By the time the skis load up he is standing back in the middle.

@@fredhughes4115 Excellent Point!

Yes Fred I'm with you. The knees bend to lift the ski's off the snow, so his weight is slammed down as he gets deep into the next turn. He is getting enough rebound from the ski's to jump across to the next turn.

none of these are my rules... but you hear them from various organisations around the world as things to never do... I don't follow the rules... Rules should only ever be created based on the desired result... Peoples desired results are all personal so this means their rules to accomplish their result will vary. Some people want to just ski green runs and be parallel and carving big angles is not their goal, so standing up and being in a more vertical position with hips over their feet will be useful for them (where that "rule" might be valid). I am not a rule guy.

@@ReillyMcGlashan ahah you should be :) The main thing is to understand the principles beyond the rules...and actually the principle here is not "standing up" but "going forward".

Wow that's a lot of big talk. I thought skiing was about having fun. It is after all the most elegant form of travel ever devised by man. Why the need to bash other people if you are so godlike and good?

Hi, Joseph. Old Park City local here. Kudos for still getting out there and getting after it. I knew Stein. I shanked a lot of golf balls into his back yard when he lived on the golf course back in the 80s. I worked in his ski shop at Deer Valley off and on during the last twelve years. He was as Gracious to me and everyone else as he was Graceful on skis. Trashing other skiers is not Stein's Way. That's as far off track as you can get. Attaching yourself to Stein's reputation then trashing other skiers contrary to everything he believed in is a disgrace. I suggest you put more effort into emulating Stein's Gracious Spirit and less emphasis on your ability to mimic his technique. I never wanted to ski like Stein. But I've always tried to ski with his amazing Grace and his Gracious Spirit. That's taken my skiing further than I ever thought it would go. Be content with your own skiing and the compliments that come with it. Sounds like you're still skiing pretty good and having fun. That’s good enough for the girls I go with. :) .

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he's the beeeesssst mann!😅

yes from this low position he extends fast straight after this. His tangental angle of the path of his COM relative to the path of his skis though is interesting... This leaves him on the inside ski the top part of the turn.

This would be absolutely hilarious!

Hahaha. Brilliant :)