6 Things Wrong With Our AFrame Camper

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Mr Hop To It

Mr Hop To It

Күн бұрын

No camper is perfect, and neither are AFrames. Here is my list of the Top 6 Things that I feel were designed or built incorrectly on mine. Please leave a comment on whether or not you agree with me. What would you add to this list?
Here are the links mentioned in the video-
Front Compartment Upgrade • AFrame Compartment Mod...
Skylight Repair • RV Skylight Leak Repai...

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@dw7444
@dw7444 6 ай бұрын
There's was a guy at the campground last time we went who had removed the skylight on his. He installed a very large solar panel over the patch... looked good and seemed to be fairly practical.
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 6 ай бұрын
I've heard of that mod but have never seen it. I'm interested to know what they did inside to fill the hole. Also if they've had any water leaks. Thanks for sharing.
@dw7444
@dw7444 6 ай бұрын
@@mrhoptoit7835 He mentioned using foam board to plug the hole. There was wood paneling inside on both sides of the roof so the alteration wasn't visible... looked a heck of a lot nicer the basic white ceiling they usually have. Not certain what was under the solar panel as it was hidden from view. Sort of makes me think it wasn't especially pretty, perhaps something simple like some roof membrane glued down and some eternabond tape on the seams???
@rrr_rozell7992
@rrr_rozell7992 Жыл бұрын
Every camper has its tradeoff for sure. I save a lot of money being able to park my aframe in the garage.
@rrr_rozell7992
@rrr_rozell7992 Жыл бұрын
Hahaha I DO look through the window .... never had a leak in 6 years BUT I store inside
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 Жыл бұрын
You are lucky to have indoor storage. For most of us, those skylights will weather, crack, and leak. We do love our Aframe camper, and I hope you saw the video I did on the 6 things we love about it. Here's the link - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/octgfLdjvLmqpqM.html. Thanks for watching!
@dnodoz1753
@dnodoz1753 6 ай бұрын
We added a 14gal grey water tank to our Aliner. Sits in a stainless steel frame between the steel beams of the undercarriage. Added a vent valve and standard rv waste valve to finish it off. The pipe from the tank to the waste valve holds another gallon or two of capacity. We can now go days without dumping if we choose. We can still attach a garden hose to the cap on the rv valve and drain into a blue tank to empty at a vault toilet. When at full hookup site we can run water endlessly without worry with a standard rv sewer hose. Tank was from Amazon and all the stainless steel hardware from McMaster Carr. Total cost when we did this in 2020 was about $450. Adding about 20lbs empty to our 2000 lb Aframe wasn’t an issue. We tow with a 5000lb towing capacity vehicle. Still, we try empty the tank as soon as possible to not haul the weight of 15 gal of water impact our gas mileage.
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 6 ай бұрын
What a great mod. Thanks for telling me about it.
@anthonyhitchings1051
@anthonyhitchings1051 Ай бұрын
Our 2003 Aliner has two 24x24 skylights over the bed area. We swapped one out for a clear skylight so that we can watch part of the night sky (and meteors) from bed. The old skylight is now its protective cover when not being used for viewing.
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 29 күн бұрын
My old Aliner had a solid roof over the bed, and I liked that vs any skylight. Thanks for the comment.
@CroakerOutdoors
@CroakerOutdoors Ай бұрын
Appreciate the video. Warmed up to the a frame after looking at a bunch of pop ups. Coming from tenting I want the rv systems to be as simple as possible so I am looking for less tanks, residential style ac, but enough space inside for two small kids and two adults.
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. Be sure to watch why we love our AFrame kzfaq.info/get/bejne/octgfLdjvLmqpqM.html
@davidz1681
@davidz1681 Жыл бұрын
Nice work. I want to buy one but I may look a little more into it. Thanks!
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, David. If you haven't watched it yet, check out my other video - "6 things we we LOVE about our AFrame Camper" kzfaq.info/get/bejne/octgfLdjvLmqpqM.html. Thanks for watching!
@candyalexander2196
@candyalexander2196 Жыл бұрын
Ours is a love hate relationship..very expensive for leaking issues and skylight repair..we do love the size and commode easy to tow..we drain our sink into bucket and tote to bathroom or if sewer drain into sewer hook up..A213HW rock wood
@SB4E.2
@SB4E.2 Жыл бұрын
Haha! Oh yes! We will be removing the back bed baking skylight too!!!! Have yet to figure out what kind of panel for the outside… but inevitably we will cover it with flat solar panels. I’m the opposite on the grey tank. I appreciate it not having one so I don’t have to stop anywhere special to empty it. Or move the trailer to empty it on a longer camp. Walking out a bucket is much easier. Actually! Ours/yours is quite better than the ALiner which has the exit pipe down at the bottom off the floor!!! Our friends are basically stuck using an oil pan for grey. I’m thankful ours is higher. Agree on the locks. Totally. A change we have to make too. Especially since one broke recently. Insulation is needed for the bottom. I noticed the same thing you did and in the meantime, rolled some flex seal all over the bottom. Easy fixes over all! I will be interested to see what you do with the vent pipe area!
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 Жыл бұрын
I'm actually starting to get used to the sink drain. We are only booking full hook-up sites so we can use the hose. Ive tried the hose to container and quickly got tired of lugging it as 6 gallons fills up quickly.
@SB4E.2
@SB4E.2 Жыл бұрын
@@mrhoptoit7835 That makes total sense with full hookups. We’re pretty much boon dockers. Although we have a hose stored in case we do hookups. We tend to use a pail while out… it comes in handy to rinse the French press grounds and first scrub on cast iron. With the boondocking we tend to cook and wash outside so our grey water is pretty limited from the inside. But it’s nice to have these convos in comments for people to learn from the different ways and why’s! I enjoy your videos.
@stejac1000
@stejac1000 5 ай бұрын
Excellent.?I own one and those skylights are my biggest complaint. None of them are necessary. Most usually have no more than two adults so the front ones are have no purpose. The shop foreman at our dealer swears at them. He claims it’s the main reason people get rid of these trailers.
@krbuys50
@krbuys50 Ай бұрын
The bubble skylights aren't worth much as windows but they do serve another purpose that you may not have thought of, especially if you are a taller person. The actual function of the bubble is to give headroom to the person seated at the table next to the front or back of the trailer. I'm 6 ft. tall and if the bubble weren't there, I would have to sit with my head tilted toward the middle of the camper to sit upright at the table. The same is true if I'm sitting at the couch/bench at the back, my head would have to dip forward to avoid hitting the ceiling. Just food for thought.
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 Ай бұрын
Good point. Same idea as the dome skylight over the shower in my Freedom Express. Thanks for the observation!
@davehanna1557
@davehanna1557 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video! I’m in the process of buying an A frame type camper; this helps narrow my search down…. I won’t be buying a Flagstaff. Particle board floor? And it appears the structural steel members are rusting pretty bad..
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@anthonyhitchings1051
@anthonyhitchings1051 Ай бұрын
I did consider adding that big slideout storage box (a copy thereof) to our 2003 Aliner. But 3+years later, I am glad that I did not. We have two side cargo bays (which I added doors for), and the center bay, accessed from the inside, is for the Lithium battery in its battery box.
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 29 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching my channel!
@laura-ann.0726
@laura-ann.0726 11 ай бұрын
As for the grey water tank: Aliners are pretty small, and a lot of people that choose one instead of something larger, do so because their tow vehicle can't handle anything heavier or larger than an Aliner. A grey water tank would add weight, probably at least 50 pounds when you sum up the weight of a polypropylene tank and all the brackets and mounting hardware. A 7-gallon portable jug weighs only 3 pounds (empty) and it can be easily dumped in any restroom toilet; there are thousands of National Forest and BLM campgrounds that do not have an RV dump station, but that always have at least a vault toilet; if you camp in these places frequently, you want a portable greywater jug. When I owned a Palomino cab-over truck camper, that's how I handled grey water, with a 7 gallon jug.
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 11 ай бұрын
Yes, we all have to figure out what's the best way to handle the grey water issue. Since posting this video, I have come to terms with the system. I agree with the potential weight issues for those people that don't have a larger vehicle. Since the only use for water in my AFrame is the sink (no shower or toilet) I still think that the existing 26 gallon fresh water tank could easily be replaced with two 20 gallon tanks - one for fresh, one for grey, with a minimum but acceptable weight addition.
@laura-ann.0726
@laura-ann.0726 11 ай бұрын
@@mrhoptoit7835 - people who do a lot of boondocking, like in National Forests, might prefer to have the single large 26 gal freshwater tank. My brother spent a whole summer boondocking, and he said the biggest problem was water, he always wished that they had a larger water tank, because every time they ran low, it was a 30-mile round-trip drive to get more. This would end up being every 4 to 5 days.
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 11 ай бұрын
That is a great point. However it brings up an interesting question. How many AFrame owners boondock vs campers like us who do the campground route? I honestly have no idea. Like I said, I personally prefer a grey water tank but that's based on how we use it. Thanks for your insights!
@LivnTex
@LivnTex 4 ай бұрын
good info. thanks.
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 4 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching.
@user-eg8lx4lb3o
@user-eg8lx4lb3o 3 ай бұрын
Very good show
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for liking
@laura-ann.0726
@laura-ann.0726 11 ай бұрын
I 100% agree that the skylights on Aframe campers are awful. If you aren't going to pay the extra for dormers, you would be better off to just have a solid roof panel where the skylight is.
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 11 ай бұрын
I'm honestly amazed that they still build them with that huge skylight. Thanks for the comment!
@laura-ann.0726
@laura-ann.0726 11 ай бұрын
@@mrhoptoit7835 - Instead of the skylight, it would be far more useful to mount a 100 watt solar panel there (if your Aliner doesn't have dormers).
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 11 ай бұрын
That is a pretty good idea@@laura-ann.0726
@patrickmckowen2999
@patrickmckowen2999 11 ай бұрын
Good info 👍
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 11 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@CrackerFL
@CrackerFL Жыл бұрын
Wow! OSB board on the floor, really! Not pressure treated 3/4"-1"plywood ?
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 Жыл бұрын
I was a bit shocked, too. Thanks for watching.
@user-yt7cb4kp4r
@user-yt7cb4kp4r Жыл бұрын
In this video or your last one you bring the subject of painting the floor for some protection. The good news is that the material used as flooring is made to resist water and other road minor damage. Somewhere in your owner manual there is a note to that effect. This product was made in Canada (In Quebec) but the company was bought a few years back so i cannot give you more info. As to insulate i am curious as to what you plan to use I am thinking of spray foam that sticks to pretty well anything instead of solid foam. Your Thoughts?? Pierre
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 Жыл бұрын
I'm also thinking spray foam, but I'm still researching. Thanks for watching.
@gerrieslegers9064
@gerrieslegers9064 2 ай бұрын
For colder areas (here in Australia) we put in interlocking EVA floor mats. For $20 it makes it at least a little less colder on the floor. Do consider the thickness of the mats so you can still open the cupboard doors and fridge door.
@TrailToughTrailers
@TrailToughTrailers Ай бұрын
Question... is the purpose, in part, to give more head space while sitting in that place? I have never been in an A-liner that I can recall. I have watched Slim Potato Head's video over the last few years and he has done a zillion mods to his, BUT I can't recall if he ever talked about this reason/problem. (I'm getting old and forgetful... that's my story and I'm sticking to it!!!) I enjoyed your video and getting to the points quickly. Too many vid's drag on and on (sort of like me).
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 Ай бұрын
Yes, taller people may need the headspace above the dinette, but it isn't as useful over the bed. Thanks for watching.
@dansklrvids7303
@dansklrvids7303 Жыл бұрын
Great vid!
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. More to come!
@dougsmith7195
@dougsmith7195 11 ай бұрын
So should I buy a tent trailer or an A Frame???
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 11 ай бұрын
That's a decision you'll have to make. They both have advantages and disadvantages. Obviously, I'm pro A Frame, but you get what's best for you.
@Bernard_Ashtree
@Bernard_Ashtree Жыл бұрын
👍
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@gradycooper475
@gradycooper475 Ай бұрын
The skylight on these is actually ABS and they degrade badly over a few short years even if you take good care of them. LEXAN is what they should have used and what is being sold as a replacement.
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 Ай бұрын
Well, you learn something every day. All I know is the original skylights are not very robust. Thanks for the info!
@mrmja50
@mrmja50 Жыл бұрын
Yes no reason for that rear skylight. I find it noisy when trees drip and hard rain is hitting it while Im trying to sleep.
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 Жыл бұрын
Very good point, and another reason to eliminate it. Thanks for watching.
@SolarPowerMyRV
@SolarPowerMyRV 7 ай бұрын
Cover that skylight with a solar planet
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@martelvonc
@martelvonc 2 ай бұрын
We have a 2017 a213hw (no dormer) I agree about ALL the bubble windows. There is no need for them and they cause more problems than they are worth. The side windows and ceiling lights are plenty. If I knew I could custom order roof panels I would have with NO roof windows.
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 2 ай бұрын
I agree with you. The good news is the replacement skylights that you can order from online are far superior and will last a lot longer. Check out my video regarding this - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z6qFdqt3rtPJeWg.html. Thanks for watching.
@johnlounsbury6191
@johnlounsbury6191 9 ай бұрын
legitimate issues
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching my channel
@jamescoombs4754
@jamescoombs4754 4 ай бұрын
I have a 20 year old aliner expedition it is still like new. The build quality is amazing. It seems like the flagstaff is a poor imitation in the videos ive seen
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 4 ай бұрын
There are things in ALiners that I like and things in Flagstaff I like, as I've owned both of them. Thanks for watching
@susanmanns5332
@susanmanns5332 Жыл бұрын
Rip the skylights out snd replace with 4.5 mm smoke gray acrylic flat sheet and its a whole different van you will love it
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting idea. Thanks for watching
@Chizzleberry
@Chizzleberry 7 ай бұрын
It’s more like Mr wah wah waaaah Eeyore
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching👍
@anthonyhitchings1051
@anthonyhitchings1051 Ай бұрын
Our 2003 Aliner has a better floor than that OSB junk.
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 29 күн бұрын
Yes, I'd have preferred that they used plywood.
@candyalexander2196
@candyalexander2196 Жыл бұрын
We hate the large skylight too.why doesn't forest river ask owners what to change..
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 Жыл бұрын
That's a very good question, Candy. Thanks for watching!
@martelvonc
@martelvonc 2 ай бұрын
It would certainly safe Forest River money and stream line the roof panel construction, and also save money with less steps to install the useless bubble windows.
@Dave-rm4uw
@Dave-rm4uw Жыл бұрын
Rockwood please removed the skylight! It's too much heat in the camper.
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 Жыл бұрын
I wish they would come up with a panel kit that could be used to plug the hole the skylight uses. I'd buy one in a second. Thanks for watching.
@user-pe8rm7jw9q
@user-pe8rm7jw9q 6 ай бұрын
WQW, crappy waffer board for floor
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 6 ай бұрын
Yup. Thanks for watching
@CC_Marauder
@CC_Marauder Ай бұрын
You picked the wrong TT, formr A frame owner. #PersonalResponsibility Signed, Very happy Forest River Flagstaff T12RBST owners (former 4x TT owners that chose this A frame as the perfect amalgamation)
@mrhoptoit7835
@mrhoptoit7835 Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. Did you check out the OTHER video I did on it? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/octgfLdjvLmqpqM.html
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