Bro called me stupid 2 different ways

I was in a magic: The Gathering tournament about 15 years ago. My opponent was aggressively shuffling his hand by moving the left-most card to the right-most slot; repeat. It was kinda the equivalent of spamming a flag in WC3. One turn I was pondering whether to cast a spell for a good 15-20 seconds, as I was playing around a counterspell. My opponent was flicking/shuffling away with his 5 or so cards in hand, and they kept making this slick flicking/snapping sound. Sound like a playing card in a bicycle wheel. It wasn't so much that it was annoying, but it seemed ridiculous. I was thinking how dumb and pointless it was for him to keep flicking like that. So, as I'm thinking of whether I should cast my spell or pass the turn, suddenly a card flicks right outta my opponent's hand, flies into the air, and lands in the middle of the table face up; it was a counterspell. I passed the turn without casting. ;)

00:32 I appreciate this from the opponent, shows effort to cause a small laugh even if the technique is overdone

60 APM Grubby: makes fun of high APM opponent. 420 APM Grubby: makes fun of low APM opponent. Both Grubbys: insult the viewers :D

I'm inclined to believe the 50 apm gamers mostly still have spikes closer to 90-150 and periods of pressing nothing at all rather than just sustaining sub 50 all game

High APM: Opponent: Why is this replay 100MB

I love all the comments saying "woah slow down" whenever Grubby reaches more than 50 APM lol

10:28 I imagined the same situation after the last game: Grubby-wife: Honey, bring me some water Grubby: repeatedly picks up and puts down a glass, turns the tap on and off as fast as possible, starts doing backflips and high school math problems at the same time Fatboy Slim - Push The Tempo starts playing in the distance

This intro was something else, but I believe him

"So you just take damage on the ground for no reason because you can't be bothered to be resummon wolves or block with the wolf?" Yes - that's a lot of us who are fans of yours and love watching but intimated by the APM of the game, lol. Great series, please keep it up, actually learning a lot watching this as I dip my toes into RTS/WC3

Try a challenge where you primarily use your mouse instead of hot keys (like us casuals). For example, instead of pressing the key to select the appropriate building to build, you have to drag your mouse over and select it. Whenever you try to select/regroup your army, you have to click, hold, and drag your mouse to capture/recapture your entire army. Right-click to move around the map, select attack with your mouse to attack anyone, select spells with your mouse to use them, and select your inventory items with your mouse too!

the high apm game was commical

I lol'ed at grubby discovering how RTS is for us "normal, slow people".

maybe a no keyboard challenge?

Maybe try playing without hotkeys like real casual player

I was thinking I watch the content for entertainment, but your way of responding to attacks is something valuable to learn. Respect and kudos I guess🙂

APM can tell you how much stuff can be done in a moment of high amount of tasks. In SC2 there is always something to do. Wc3 has some down times where your apm drops, because you don’t have nearly enough to do to stay on 500apm

I've always played a lot of strategy and MOBA games, and my APM is ridicilous low yet I reach generally pretty high based on what I like to think is 'Common sense''. When Heroes of the Storm was still around, it would show everyones apm at the end of the match. It was satisfying to see my apm below 90 and everyone's elses 150-200 yet carrying the team

I laughed way too hard on the fastest as possible chalenge lmao, ty Grubby

These are so weird. Like on one hand it's fun and interesting to see grubby limit himself, but nobody was ever complaining that playing as the pro player with 60 apm would be slowing them down. The argument is taking your whole skill in W3 and just abstracting it into the number that is APM - if you're good, you can do a lot of good actions per minute. If you're less good, you make much fewer good actions per minute. Grubby optimizing in this way only shows how much better than us he is and how hard it would be to have to play against someone with this skill as a starting player.

The way you precisely and swiftly move and aim with your mouse is just really hard for most people

Appreciate this from you, I like your raw and live tutorials and your style a lot, I wish more people taught games like this. I dont know what it is about most tutorials I see but they seem too focused on turning things into "5 things you need to know" type formulas like its that simple, its hard to put into words. Feels way more real like this

Its about the hotkeys and control groups not the apm. You can mouseclick constantly and end up with 100 apm. But less apm is better if you know all hotkeys and can use multiple keys without searching the keyboard.

Something I did with DotA is I was super entranced by miracle invoker. I tried to emulate it as much as possible, even trying to match his apm. Then after a few years of having high apm, I tried to throttle it down. A lot of apm is wasted actions, and I think there's value in both having high and low apm. Once you're able to refine a high apm down, you're able to think much quicker and more precisely

The first three minutes were giving ME anxiety. Like, how does he not double-hotkey to center on the building. Like man, can’t imagine how anxiety-inducing this mush have been for you 😅😂

Had to watch this at 2x speed to make it seem relatively normal and have it not negatively affect my high velocity brain power.

thank you grubby...i am staring at a slay the spire nightmare grandfinale hand. watching your other random videos

Low APM is negatively effecting my subconscious. I expect nightmares about creeps and selling useless items to the shop tonight

Great games, Grubby! I wonder, do you remember Axslav from back in the day? NA player iirc, and one of the most enjoyable "low APM" pros I can remember.

As a casual, I never had my APM measured in WC3. I'm guessing it'd be around 150 or something? Maybe. Grubby's videos make me want to install wc3 again but then I remember it forces Reforged into your game and I'm like "nah, I'm good".

Hi grubby, would you mind doing a mini series on creep management. For example at the very first camp you manage to not get your wolves dispelled. How did you do that? Thanks

I feel like for these challenges it'd be best to keep yourself much lower than the max apm by like 10-20 or something when you're not interacting with your opponent in any way, just so you have more freedom of microing your units a bit better when you do end up fighting them

Low APM is not only about slow actions, it's also about avoiding clicking random buttons 200+ times to get high APM, like pros usually do at the beginning to warm up. Can you try to play without this random actions and just click only when it's needed? I used to be one of the highest MMR player with 70 APM back in the days in HoN (MOBA).

Moving a camera also counts as an action, though it doesn't feel as doing anything useful. That's why "i'm barely doing anything" is actually around 50 apm.

I knew this weird flex was coming. It's fine.

Would be interesting to see you play with an Autohotkey script that limits your actual key presses to 60 per minute, or even less. I wonder how low you could set it and still win

The beginning of this video I thought, how did grubby find a replay of my game from 2004

I probably have higher APM when I'm rearranging my items than when I'm fighting because I get Stendhal's syndrome from watching everything I did fall apart. Edit: I really dislike Turtle Rock because no mercs/Shredders but gotta admit you did wreck it without them.

staying below 60APM gives me more anxiety than I would imagine

What are you doing?? We are looking how beautiful things are and enjoying the nature, I mean the game.

I wonder how a handcam with 600 apm would look like ?

Hm, it's applicable on WC3 since big fights lets you focus on it entirely while just using control groups for your macro... ...in StarCraft you'll have to be fast half the time since one mistake will get you ling flooded/zealot spammed/marine+vulture+scv busted. Or on SC2's case, splitting away from banelings, widow mines and disruptor shots.

I wonder if the high APM hurts his wrists, etc. after a while. I hear that's a common complaint among gamers.

This felt the same as the Lvl1 vs Lvl99 clickbait videos lol

someone make a mod where each action above APM 60 costs gold, progressively more as APM increases. like upkeep for apm

Hey Grubby, maybe you could do a low APM game, with mouse, and with your other hand you are just supporting your chin? I play like that when im tired, or just chilling.

Battle micro is the biggest difference between pro/amateur Apm + game iq

Treating APM like a resource is too funny - low APM game? You have limited number of clicks, and you must spend them efficiently. High APM? You must create more actions to spend them XD

its like mutators in sc2 "micro-transactions": you loose money every time you do order to your unit.

do a mouse only game i wonder how it will look like

Hey Grubby, you set a sentry ward at the opponents expo and it didn't last 10 minutes.

Does W3 matchmaking matches you with people of the same skill? I read it doesn't do it, please?

Why does random clicking around count as APM?

Grubby gets dog backwards😢😂

I don't think the APM counter is working correctly.

I doubt people are playing this slow. I have never once played PvP and barely even play Melee maps. Yet when I do, I'm 100% sure it isn't this slow. Sure, I'm far slower compared to the top players, but like Grubby asked "do people really play this slow?".

I think bad players still have high apm, just not when building and macroing, and they are usually very sloppy in fights but they still desperate click thigns

i wish i had enough iq to understand the video but sadly i was just born that way and will never reach grubby's iq (which is the highest possible number if he did take one)

They shd remove the 1st minute of APM and THEN average it. Removes the spam

Wow😂

This video did in fact NOT help me with anxiety HAHA

Slowest of the slows fastest of the fasts

Upload the replay to an actual apm parser website to the real apm

How about a trackpad challenge instead of a mouse

Lol not press buttons. The only button I press when I play is my mouse button and occasionally the "A" for attack

Def ppl who use PC casually prob this if not slower

Ok but what is APM

Start of the game the apm is already at 50 seems kind of rigged

I respect it. Mostly because I know how difficult it is to fight against your muscle memory in order to NOT press hotkeys constantly. Also, it genuinely does take a solid 180 APM peak to play Warcraft 3 at a decent level, and that's without any sort of unnecessary hotkey spam. Sure, there's a lot of down time, but even microing against creeps and simply doing macro things is more clicks/actions than some people think. PS: It's an average, you 100% spiked over 60 when fighting the UD. PSS: Reforged actually has input repeat built in. You can legitimately just hold down your control group hotkey and it will repeatedly select the control group and skyrocket your APM to over 1k. Hitman used to do it all the time, in addition to his normal macro key that would spam stuff. (Like, this guy legitimately had a prerecorded macro key that would just spam 1-2-1-2-1-2 for him.) It's why he had a very robotic 800 APM opening then suddenly dropped to like 120 the second his hero came out.

lemme tell u something, at 600 APM, you have a VERY satisfied wife... my wife knows my apm is 2, very sad. filed for divorce last night

Instead of low APM, try, doing no keyboard.

Grubby the realest; much respect for being true to yourself after all of these years!