Hey guys. Massive error in the video. The image used to represent Greensboro NC is actually from Greensboro area in VA. Ouch. Even worse, I am in Greensboro NC right now typing this. I just posted my own photos from there on instagram a few minutes ago. A mistake like that is not good for the ol' reputation. Also, I want to reiterate that these are my own calculations and not official Census calculations. Your federal funding is not on the line!
@respectedgentleman43222 жыл бұрын
Don't worry about it Kyle. In fact I respect you more for owning up straight away. Loving this channel.
@heraldo28812 жыл бұрын
Ha you block head... just kidding very nice work on this video.. you gave us tons of information in just a few short minutes. Thanks
@bhg123ful2 жыл бұрын
No worries! No one is perfect! Love your channel. I share some of your videos with others.
@brianarbenz72062 жыл бұрын
As a map lover, say 10 Hail Amerigo Vespucis. That's should absolve you! 😇
@Cynaster002 жыл бұрын
I forgive you
@yungthunder26812 жыл бұрын
Metro population is so much of a better measure than raw city population. Thank you for spreding more use of it!
@Kenyon7122 жыл бұрын
There is something to be said about city population.
@jnyerere2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I feel like city proper in the U.S. does not show the true size of a city/area.
@yoshster06122 жыл бұрын
@@jnyerere Especially thanks to those damn suburbs
@vaughanmccarthy66852 жыл бұрын
I agree. Generally, metro areas work as one integrated unit, with all parts dependent on other parts no matter what local government area they fall into. In Australia, where I live, we always refer to the entire metropolitan area when stating the population of our cities. If we did it the way Americans do, Sydney would only have 250,000 people, rather than 5.2 million. Similarly, Melbourne would have 135,000, rather than 5 million.
@Kenyon7122 жыл бұрын
You don’t think it matters if a city has a hundred thousand or a million? It matters greatly.
@OnTheHorizonSomewhere2 жыл бұрын
This was a relaxing respite having Kyle take me on a tour of the US metros.
@discowhistle2 жыл бұрын
Respite or despite?
@walkerdawson52062 жыл бұрын
I gained even more respect for this guy when he flat out said he didn’t like Orlando. I’m happy to hear that. Those sprawling cities are awful
@impassable2 жыл бұрын
People like Orlando because its not expensive and has good weather, and it's safer from hurricanes than the coast
@colatf22 жыл бұрын
@@impassable I live on the coast so I’m a little biased, but the ocean is built in climate control and gives us a more consistent cooler temperature. And I don’t like Orlando and the whole theme park mumbo jumbo, but Orlando is so much nicer than suburban sprawl in Arizona and Southern California.
@ecurewitz2 жыл бұрын
@Frigidlava speak for yourself. I love it, But I live in a place with a much less pleasant climate (Massachusetts)
@carlospalomino69282 жыл бұрын
right. been to orlando once and its MID and plus it doent even look like a well developed city idk how to explain
@jaspal6662 жыл бұрын
Sprawling cities? Man, stay away from DFW then. 😂
@troncy2 жыл бұрын
Boston and Providence are already combined as a CSA with over 8.4 million people. The New York-Newark CSA has over 23.5 million. :) I'm a bit of a population geek myself and have been "studying" the metropolitan areas since I was a kid. The numbers of our metro areas vary due to whether one is talking about MSAs (metropolitan statistical areas) or CSAs (combined statistical areas) which combine metropolitan areas with the micropolitan areas around them. Metro areas can also change names based on their city populations. The Norfolk area is now the Virginia Beach area and the San Francisco area is now the San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland area. :)
@Meta_noah11 ай бұрын
I’m a population geek myself, too. Love what you brought up about metro areas changing names when one principal city in the metro outgrows another. I have been wondering about that, such as if Saint Paul outgrew Minneapolis, would they change the metro name to reflect which one was larger? Thanks for answering that. The only thing I would correct you on is that CSA’s can be any combination of metropolitan areas and micropolitan areas. CSA’s can combine metropolitan areas with other nearby metropolitan areas too (Cleveland and Akron for example), not just the combination of metropolitan areas with nearby micropolitan areas. (The Cleveland-Akron one is a bit confusing actually, as some people consider it one metro area, while others consider them separate metros that share a CSA. As cities grow, they bleed into each other, making it difficult and rather subjective to determine where one metro area ends and another begins. Generally speaking though, most people consider them separate metro areas, at least for now. However, that will almost inevitably change as the cities continue to grow and it becomes impossible to separate the two. In fact, in 2020, a regional planning group centered in Cuyahoga County lobbied the federal government to move Akron and Canton into Greater Cleveland. Regardless, they are all considered part of the CSA known as Northeast Ohio). Lastly, CSA’s can be combinations just of nearby/adjacent micropolitan areas, although this is far less common. There doesn’t have to be a metropolitan area involved for it to be a CSA. For example, the Steamboat Springs-Craig, CO Combined Statistical Area (CSA) is a combination of the Steamboat Springs, CO Micropolitan Statistical Area and the Craig, CO Micropolitan Statistical Area.
@KikoPeo9 ай бұрын
Mee too,i am interested about Dallas Arlington Forth Worth MArea,are thoses connected or separeted citiies?
@daltonm62762 жыл бұрын
I would LOVE if you did a video on future population potential for consolidated areas such as Providence-Boston, Nyc-Philly, Chicago-Milwaukee and include cities that were also already consolidated like DFW
@chasbodaniels17442 жыл бұрын
I’d enjoy that as well, although around 1970, I recall an article projecting a dense megalopolis, tentatively named “BosWash”. That’s 50 years ago, and it’s still a long way off. Granted, the oil/energy crises of the later 1970’s hadn’t happened, and big northeast cities still had some manufacturing jobs, so ….
@martianmurray2 жыл бұрын
I remember there used to be open space between San Antonio and Austin but now it’s nonstop developments all the way up I-35. It could a metropolis next week lol
@gus4732 жыл бұрын
🤠 When Georgetown and Florence were nice lil' ol' rural spots....! 🐎🌄👋
@devinmathews78092 жыл бұрын
Maybe the next DFW. ASA.
@moderatti2 жыл бұрын
There’s still a little bit of nothing between San Marcos and Buda but yeah I agree
@ThatColtGuy2 жыл бұрын
Yea it’s crazy. And in DFW he said most of the development is to the north but I live like 20 mins south and our county as a whole is growing like crazy. Also I didn’t know DFW had more population then the Houston metropolitan area did
@tkrc18882 жыл бұрын
@@gus473 There are still spots of Williamson County (Bartlett, Florence, Granger, Coupland) that feel very rural but Georgetown/Round Rock has morphed together, has morphed with Pflugerville and Hutto, and that has morphed with Austin. Lol
@MarcusAlder2 жыл бұрын
Interesting how Honolulu is so much less populated relative to the other expensive US cities. Also, this video really makes me want a video on the areas you would consider to be current or future megalopolises!
@michaelparsons22902 жыл бұрын
Yes 👍
@martianmurray2 жыл бұрын
Alaska is the same way just a lot less populated. Shipping costs are no joke.
@jarksn54452 жыл бұрын
Think alot of it must come down to population density. The place is super desirable but geographically restricted in terms of land cover.
@ecurewitz2 жыл бұрын
fewer job opportunities there than places like NYC or LA or Boston
@brianarbenz72062 жыл бұрын
Let's face it, no matter how much the city grows, Honolulu's suburbs cannot spead across state lines.
@Boss-KingInc.2 жыл бұрын
This was definitely worth watching. One of my favorite KZfaq channels. Every video is entertaining and informative. Keep it up, Kyle
@ebrim50132 жыл бұрын
It also strikes me that Chicago and Milwaukee have basically linked up. There's a very small "space" between them with a couple agro-tourism apple orchards but you've crossed that space in about five minutes of driving.
@Max-bi8fn2 жыл бұрын
It takes about an hour to drive between them, and there is some farmland and space within surprisingly
@samuelterraszas907 Жыл бұрын
same with Sacramento and Roseville/folsom
@Nyx773 Жыл бұрын
If they build that train line between Kenosha and Milwaukee, then I would consider them linked.
@specksofdust Жыл бұрын
Thank you for recognizing Riverside/San Bernardino as part of LA Metro. Many don't realize just how many people travel between the two for work every day.
@faceheadstudios2 жыл бұрын
As a Utahn, I've always tried to explain the Salt Lake Metro Area, or more aptly the Wasatch Front Metro Area as many view the area as small in regards to population...but the area is actually pretty big and Kyle explained it pretty well. Salt Lake, like he said is relatively small in population and area, but when people refer to Salt Lake, they may rather be referring to the Salt Lake Valley, with over 1 Million People in the Valley. Head South from there is Utah County, and the new head of the Tech Growth area called Silicon Slopes. From Lehi city through Provo all the way down to Payson on the south end...around another 3/4 of a Million people. North of Salt Lake, is Davis and Weber Counties with close to another 700,000 from Bountiful, Layton, Ogden and probably could include Brigham City to the North. It's a very long Suburban/Metro Sprawl that is pretty much non stop for 115 Miles from top to bottom and maybe only 21 Miles wide at the widest point, mostly tucked between the Wasatch Mountains on the East and the Great Salt Lake, Oquirrh Mountains on the West.
@GrandpaSon2 жыл бұрын
If SLC's area was the size of Los Angeles, SLC would be one of the 10 most populous US cities. I did the math at one point, anyway, and that's what I came up with. Regardless, area has much to do with population.
@MikeP20552 жыл бұрын
I worked at the (old) airport for 15+ years and loved talking to tourists about the Wasatch Front. There were big ol' windows where I worked, so I could point up to Ben Lomand in Ogden and say, "You can almost see all the way to Idaho," which is quite an exaggeration, but to someone from Ohio or Florida or wherever, our topography is bonkers. I live in a tall-ish building in The Aves and can see all the way down the valley from my balcony. My friends in TX, MA, NJ, and CT are pretty sick of my Instagrams of the mountains and balcony views, haha.
@willp.81202 жыл бұрын
I measured it out and it is about 96 miles north south by 17 miles east west at widest point. Still crazy to think it has a span that long considering the population.
@faceheadstudios2 жыл бұрын
@@willp.8120 Nice....mine was an estimation on my time living and driving the area...so not too far off haha.
@faceheadstudios2 жыл бұрын
@@willp.8120 Also, as it keeps growing the Tooele Valley will be added to the Metro area at some point as it's close for many to drive into SLC and to the South, the Saratoga Springs, the Ranches and Eagle Mountain areas are pretty much a part of the sprawl as well.
@brendenfriers96682 жыл бұрын
I live in a Georgetown, TX north of Austin and the growth of all the towns is crazy. Im from Memphis and its metro is growing but nowhere near as ATX
@gus4732 жыл бұрын
🤠 You're about 20 years too late: no easy commute to Austin anymore! 🚁
@SLACKERBOY2 жыл бұрын
I'm in Killeen but grew up in western Michigan before moving here
@kc_10182 жыл бұрын
Austin area is projected to have 4.5 million people by 2050.
@halfpac52 жыл бұрын
Being from milwaukee, and now living in kenosha, it's unfortunate it's not included in milwaukee metro...we are in the media market of Milwaukee and so many ppl I know living in our neighborhood and whoever I meet seems to also work in areas within metro milwaukee compared to the Chicagoland area. Thank you for speaking about the metro milwaukee area reaching down to the state line of illinois. ....great video as always!
@rguest20092 жыл бұрын
But it’s not true. I live in Kenosha too. We are part of Chicago metro. Racine is even weirder it’s only part of Milwaukee in the CSA counts, and not counted in the the MSA counts.
@halfpac52 жыл бұрын
guest guest geographyking mentioned at the beginning that he was going to be modifying and adjusting as he sees fit...which makes sense. I see more journal sentinel newspaper boxes compared to chicago tribune....I see the local news coverage as channels 4, 6, 12 & 58 covering kenosha more. The local high school sports also in a sense connects kenosha much more to Milwaukee that what does to chicago. Racine is yeah such a unique strange situation. I wish there was more regional connections, and the KRM train could help but would cost a lot of $$
@fehzorz2 жыл бұрын
You can catch a Metra train to Chicago.
@halfpac52 жыл бұрын
@@fehzorz zero of trains are an express train so enjoy the many stops and over an hour train ride....far from making the argument that kenosha is deeply connected to chicago compared to Milwaukee. Listening to the two radio stations also incorporate kenosha further into Milwaukee's radio coverage. The idea that kenosha is so inexpensive, people from illinois are marching here to live has ended....while working in Milwaukee, I deal with employers who are trying to decide how to get people back in the office, they have mentioned that many people have moved during the past year, northshore, lake country to the west and an increased in ppl changing their residence to racine &kenosha.
@trongriffinproductions7159 Жыл бұрын
@@rguest2009 Just wondering as a Kenosha resident which metro would you prefer the city to be in Milwaukee or Chicago?
@robthetraveler10992 жыл бұрын
DFW resident here... although the northern suburban sprawl is incredible, it's not quite true that it reaches almost all the way to the Oklahoma state line (12:06). Denton, Little Elm, Frisco, Prosper, and McKinney are suburbs; Sanger, Aubrey, Celina, Melissa, and Anna are exurbs... but beyond that it's pretty rural. Excluding Sherman and Denison, which are decent-sized towns with a lot of amenities (especially Sherman), there's about 30+ miles from say FM 455 to the Red River that are very rural/small-town and not noticeably different from areas farther away from the Metroplex (such as those west of I-35 or east of US 75).
@robthetraveler10992 жыл бұрын
@Sebastian Morales The Bishop Arts District is fun!
@arnoldgarzajr1164Ай бұрын
I am a DFW resident too but I live in the actual Dallas city limits in the Far Southeast Dallas area which is called Kleberg which branches off Southeast Dallas which is really Pleasant Grove or Parkdale areas of Dallas.The suburbs that are near are Mesquite,Balch Springs,Seagoville,and Wilmer Hutchins which this suburb city is kind of close by.Those suburbs are for most part quiet and a good place to raise a family.Meanwhile Pleasant Grove a.k. Southeast Dallas is pretty bad.Alot of crime there.There is alot of thefts,drugs,poverty,gangs of thugs,gun violence running rampant,and mainly black or Hispanic neighborhoods.The area I live at Kleberg a.k. Far Southeast Dallas is not suburb ish.Its urban and is starting turn into Pleasant Grove a little bit and that's not good.Yeah I am just explaining how my area of Dallas is.The good thing is that are alot of jobs in DFW so that's a positive.
@GeoHuman.2 жыл бұрын
Atlanta is probably the city handling sprawl the best in the US that grew during the car age. Instead of only sprawling out with suburbia, the city center is also expanding and it's surprisingly walkable.
@Dallascaper2 жыл бұрын
Mmmm...no. Greater Atlanta's population density is less than DFW, so it sprawls with the worst of them. As for the city center, all of the major sunbelt cities are seeing growth with their cores, but that growth is nothing compared to the sprawl. And Atlanta is a horrible city for walkability. Isn't Atlanta the king of pedistrian fatalities?
@GeoHuman.2 жыл бұрын
@@Dallascaper 5 years ago, that is. The city already had ~100,000 people around the advent of the car, so Dekalb and Fulton were already somewhat built up. There are still fatalities but they do have the best bikeshare program in the sunbelt. (2nd in the US)
@metri196610 ай бұрын
You need get your facts straight about Atlanta before you start speaking so negatively.. I find it’s strange always someone from Dallas n Houston area throwing shade at Atlanta..
@Tairygreen4 ай бұрын
Except for the violent crime. I’d stay in your car and drive during the day
@dougfitzsimmons52882 жыл бұрын
Great video. It would have been cool if you would have shown a map of each metro area.
@LeveyHere2 жыл бұрын
Another Geography King video, awesome! They're always so interesting and fun.
@iguana2722 жыл бұрын
As a Brit I find it interesting how US metro areas can contain multiple cities and towns which look pretty much separate from my perspective. In the UK we rarely consider places to be part of the same urban area unless they are pretty much physically touching.
@Republic3D2 жыл бұрын
By the same standards as the video, the UK would be three or four metro areas.
@jphilb2 жыл бұрын
I think it is mostly due to the suburbs stringing along connecting what would appear to be separate areas. Houston has over a dozen cities as far apart as 75 miles but it is all still called Houston.
@cpMetis2 жыл бұрын
It's just down to the way suburbs and parks are dealt with. Columbus is a kinda perfect example. The core of the the city is there, then there are "spokes" following out to the "wheel". All of it *is* continuous, but the areas in between are kept green either for parks or because the city is growing into the space from the outside in, starting at the junctures of the spokes and wheel and working their way in. Once it is filled in and built up, a new wheel is laid down further out on the spokes and the process restarts, engulfing the areas already there. In this example, West Jeff and Marysville only have a matter of time before they become the next Dublin and Grove City.
@chasbodaniels17442 жыл бұрын
@iguana72 I suspect the geographic scale of the two countries affect how things are viewed. If Great Britain is roughly the size of the six New England states, that would induce you to “zoom in” and visualize major cities as separate metro centers.
@jonr65582 жыл бұрын
It’s because of the huge size disparity
@harinadathur102 жыл бұрын
Omg this is the exact thing I want to watch every day thank you Kyle
@ironpig7012 жыл бұрын
A couple I noticed. On the east coast its almost like 1 metro is the state just do to size of states on east coast vs west coast. And in California its like 2 metros with San Diego and Los Angeles in south which are pretty close then you have San Fransisco, Stockton, Fresno and Sacramento all near each other. I lived in the area and visit frequently from Oregon. But once you leave Sacramento and head north to Oregon well its pretty bare. Its interesting how these cities developed. Thanks for another great video
@drscopeify2 жыл бұрын
Just to the east you have Bend Oregon which surprinsgly one of the fastest growing cities in the country which I always find odd as I drive through there and I am like, wait? Why are people moving here? And homes are very expensive too like 600k-700k so similar to Portland area I guess just people from Portland that are working from home? I don't see really any local tech boom it's just remote work.
@ironpig7012 жыл бұрын
@@drscopeify vacation homes, retirement and data center jobs. Prineville has Facebook, Google, Apple and a few more going in.
@Liaam2 жыл бұрын
What I love is that Cincinnati has gained population for the first time since the 50's. Only good things coming
@brianarbenz72062 жыл бұрын
I have visited Cincy a couple of times recently (from Louisville) and loved the art museum and some nice little restaurants we found, on both sides of the river. And the Over The Rhine neighborhood was wonderful.
@jonr65582 жыл бұрын
Cinci is my favorite Ohio city, and it’s hard for me to say anything good about Ohio considering where I’m from…
@alexnewberg67952 жыл бұрын
I don’t think Cincy gets enough credit, it’s actually a pretty fun place. I’m at Univ of Cincinnati now and I love the city.
@BIFC2162 жыл бұрын
@@alexnewberg6795 yea but it as well as Columbus will always be in the shadows of Cleveland its very very hard to compete with a major large market in Ohio like Cleveland
@michaelfoulkes95022 жыл бұрын
@@BIFC216 Columbus and Cincinnati are much nicer than Cleveland.
@thefareplayer22542 жыл бұрын
If you’re ever ridden the Providence Line of the MBTA Commuter Rail, it can be really hard to tell when the “Boston” suburbs end and the “Providence” ones begin. I personally think Mansfield is the last “Boston” suburb and Attleboro is the first “Providence” one. Also, there seems to be no rural areas in between them, which would theoretically make it one urban area?
@-hg7fc Жыл бұрын
Providence is just a satellite city for Boston these days along with Worcester and Manchester nh the csa definition is really the best for metro excluding the western part of Worcester county which is rural. People in the suburban towns commute either way. The idea of providence being a separate metro is just a historical relic and because Rhode Island persists as a separate state.
@alpaljl2 жыл бұрын
Another great video. I just returned home from a 2,000 mile round road trip to Phoenix, Las Cruces, & Albuquerque. I live in Los Angeles and this road trip really put into perspective how overcrowded my home is. My desire to move away has grown substantially.
@kjhuang2 жыл бұрын
I live in Los Angeles too. Where are you thinking of moving to?
@alpaljl2 жыл бұрын
@@kjhuang Hard to say at this point.
@alfonsomunoz4424 Жыл бұрын
I moved from Houston to Las Cruces last year. Moved away 6 months later.
@desertdc123 Жыл бұрын
@@alfonsomunoz4424 That would be culture shock. What moved you away, and is it to another large city?
@emu50882 жыл бұрын
Really cool video! I'm curious about the Albany metro area. I think most MSA stats put it over a million, but Albany MSA is weird because it is a loose agglomeration of small cities. And I think those stats put Saratoga in there, which is quite far away to be included IMO. Curous where you had Albany on your list?
@JasonTaylor-po5xc2 жыл бұрын
I would be nice to have an image showing the metro area on a map to give a sense of area/size. For example, Atlanta metro includes about 20 counties in GA.
@wwsciffsww37482 жыл бұрын
20 counties in Metro Atlanta (some definitions even go up to 30) sounds like a lot especially compared to, say, Metro Phoenix with 2 counties. But then you have to realize that Arizona has 15 counties and Georgia has 159, and Arizona is even twice the physical size of Georgia. So basically, Georgia counties are pretty small.
@willp.81202 жыл бұрын
@@wwsciffsww3748 Arizona is close to double the size but not quite.
@thenotoriousmichaeljackson89382 жыл бұрын
Bein from Cleveland, alotta folk in Akron dont consider themselves to be apart of Cleveland, but recognize themselves to be a “lil brother/sister” or satellite city to Cleveland. Cleveland & Akron woulda been more connected if Cuyahoga Valley Natural Park was never built, but I honestly dont regret it. Cleveland green belt is very useful for both da environment & for recreation.
@colatf22 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I wish there was more natural areas on the East Coast. It’s a shame that most of it is just near the Canadian border and southern Florida
@elliottheredd2 жыл бұрын
*National Park
@yungbananaclip28222 жыл бұрын
the Cuyahoga valley park is beautiful! I agree that cle and Akron would be closer connected if it wasn't for that, but damn it's a great thing to have.
@janejones76382 жыл бұрын
I know where you'll find lots of Clevelandites(what do you call yourselves) in the Tampa Bay area. Also there is a lot of people from Pittsburgh. It's so crazy how many have moved down here. It shouldn't surprise you that my father was from the Cleveland area.
@BIFC2162 жыл бұрын
@@janejones7638 Clevelanders 😂
@brettfickenscher71202 жыл бұрын
The shirt is ON POINT, Mr. King.
@thelasttruepatriot2 жыл бұрын
Me seeing Pittsburgh on the list: 😀 Me learning Pittsburgh is one of two metros to be losing population: 😧
@brianarbenz72062 жыл бұрын
It lost a tiny amount in the 2010 census. It was really fair to say it was standing still, rather than losing. In 2020, it may be more of a drop.
@Steelers11802 жыл бұрын
It is my goal to reverse that and build Pittsburgh to greatness once again
@rokentom39262 жыл бұрын
Would love a global version of this list
@BillGreenAZ2 жыл бұрын
This is the comment I was looking for.
@janejones76382 жыл бұрын
He would have to do two or three videos just on China. There are 160.
@thomasgrabkowski82832 жыл бұрын
Tokyo has world's largest metro area
@ChaseRiverBandАй бұрын
Excellent research and presentation! And no worries about the "error" you made note of... Thanks for being so up-front about that, and explaining it. I personally have loved following the trends of the metro areas, in contrast to solely looking at the hub city's population changes. I've been very happy to have grown up in #4, and later in life moved to #3. Both great places. And you are correct... #3 is extremely convoluted -- and I am first-hand witnessing the not-so-gradual development of all the "empty spaces" that punctuate the area. But it still remains a nice place to live.
@CJWJR Жыл бұрын
From Anderson, SC, thanks for the shout out to the Greenville-Spartanburg area!
@dsimon642 жыл бұрын
Would love to hear more of the decision-making processes on when to use MSA vs. CSA vs. your own definition. Also, love how "a handful" living on the other side of a river or state border can mean 700k 😄
@desertdc123 Жыл бұрын
Some MSA and CSA areas are calculated in an inconsistent manner, that's local or arbitrary. Santa Fe is combined with ABQ in one system, giving them over 1M population...they are 50 miles apart with little population between, though some people work and live in the other. (they aren't unique in that) Denver either includes Boulder (with Greeley and Ft Collins - not even nearby or related), or it leaves out related Boulder and Broomfield. (connected except a few miles of preserved open space) I'm unsure how that issue is corrected in his mathod.
@stakknation1232 жыл бұрын
I'm from Denver and I was caught off guard by the size of Tulsa's skyline when I first saw it. Pretty big for a 1 million metro.
@OldRustySteele Жыл бұрын
Tulsa punches above its weight class due to its history in the petroleum industry. There are quite a few museums and other nice touches where people like the Phillips Family (Phillips 66 fame) donated huge portions of their wealth to make Tulsa a nicer city. To me there’s a more “older, established, eastern” feel to Tulsa than there is in Oklahoma City. That said, OKC seems to be more dynamic and growing nowadays.
@xicanosfxicanosf44332 жыл бұрын
I thought I was seeing things but i rubbed my eyes and yes indeed that is Kool Me Dee's "How Ya Like Me Now" in the back and to the left! (well our left, your right). My older brother wore out that vinyl when we were kids in the 80's. Excellent video as always and that shirt is on point! :)
@gbearfan16702 жыл бұрын
Hey, I wouldn't consider well over half a million Illinois residents in Metro St. Louis a "handfull" as you said. I do love the content you bring to KZfaq, so keep up the great work!
@willp.81202 жыл бұрын
Looking at development on the Illinois side, it is patchy. It is like you have East St. Louis then a gap. Then you have a north south cluster of cities north of Belleville that goes down to Belleville. Around that a lot of nothing, and then a few cities north along the river like Alton. Why the patchwork nature of it all?
@gbearfan16702 жыл бұрын
@@willp.8120Most of these towns were separated by vast cornfields until recent years. Now East St. Louis, Belleville, Washington Park, Fairview Heights, Swansea, Shiloh, O'Fallon and Scott Air Force Base all border each other. However, the bulk of the new residential and commercial development in St. Clair County has been in O'Fallon and Shiloh.
@jeffwebb2966 Жыл бұрын
Went to SIUE for college and lived in great metro East areas. Edwardsville is huge now. I live in St. Louis City now but love my Illinois peoples!
@CarlVandenberg2 жыл бұрын
Cool stats on metro areas. I don't know what the Raleigh metro population was in the early 70's, but our family moved to the Town of Cary (a suburban town of Raleigh) in 1972. The population at that time was around 7,500. Today Cary's population is 175,000...kind of big for a "town" but it's officially still the "Town" of Cary. It's the 7th largest municipality in NC.
@SAYFVCKFOR100DOLLARS2 жыл бұрын
I was born in the Town of Cary in the 80s
@jairousl.parkersr.42932 жыл бұрын
It's always a pleasure watching your videos! They are very informative. Philly has actually grown quite a bit after losing over 500,000 since 1950. During the last 10 years it has been very noticeable with non stop construction filling up neighborhood's with an influx of New Yorker's. Trenton to the north in Mercer county has always seemed imo to be part of the Philadelphia metropolitan area.
@KBJ9102 жыл бұрын
I’ve always wondered this. Why is the Raleigh-Durham metro split up into 2 different metros but the area is known as the triangle but the twin cities metro isn’t split up? The triangle I feel should be more considered a metro instead of a CSA?
@pullt2 жыл бұрын
Minneapolis is like 10 miles from St Paul and Raleigh is 30 miles from Durham.
@KBJ9102 жыл бұрын
@@pullt they have bordering counties from eachother they both do and your comparing downtown distances. Raleigh and Durham border eachother city lines right by 540
@pullt2 жыл бұрын
@@KBJ910 Sure, the city lines border each other, but there's a good bit of gap once you venture north or south of I-40
@druid32 жыл бұрын
As a resident I would say that Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill should actually clearly be a Metropolitan Statistical Area rather than a Combined Statistical Area. Designating Raleigh-Cary and Durham-Chapel Hill as two separate MSAs is ridiculous and probably just a mistake. Although I suppose it's possible there could be some ulterior motive.
@nickkolb81792 жыл бұрын
It is probably the biggest goof in the census data tabulations that "Raleigh-Cary" and "Durham-Chapel Hill" are considered two distinct metropolitan areas when it is clearly one metro area. Was glad to see Geography King use the true Triangle region population in his ranking.
@CityGeek2 жыл бұрын
This kind of video is right up my alley! Thanks for the interesting video
@mattdouglas89002 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on a methodology to choose where to move? I feel like there's a lot of cities that have really polarizing pros and cons, and I'm not sure how to decide where to go
@williamzehner62542 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kyle, I love seeing videos like this that break down and ranks the true sizes of metro areas. An idea that could be fun in another video would be to add and rank the international population to some of these metros. It would be cool to see how cities like El Paso, San Diego and Detroit rank with their international, sister cities included.
@sonofzingo72 жыл бұрын
Being from Tulsa, it's always really interesting to hear what people think about the city. It somehow feels both big and small at the same time, and it's always really difficult to imagine how it compares to other cities. It seems crazy that it has over a million people in the metro area, but then again it seems equally wild that it's smaller than El Paso or Tucson.
@kjhuang2 жыл бұрын
I used to live in Stillwater and I would visit Tulsa and Oklahoma City regularly. I liked both though if I had to choose I'd probably live in OKC. And yeah both cities have more to do than they're given credit for. My favorite thing about Tulsa is Circle Cinema, on Lewis near 1st.
@barkfish2 жыл бұрын
shoutout tulsa 🫡
@barbzonly86522 жыл бұрын
Geography King, the Greensboro picture is of the Greensboro metro stop in Virginia near DC, not Greensboro NC!
@GeographyKing2 жыл бұрын
Wow that sucks. I'm literally in Greensboro NC right now typing this.
@gus4732 жыл бұрын
🤦🏻♂️ Whoopsie..... 🤷🏻♂️
@peterroberts44152 жыл бұрын
@@GeographyKing Good catch...I'm like 10 minutes from that station and can confirm. It's in Tysons, VA aka NOVA
@tonyzuchora-walske93142 жыл бұрын
I live in Minneapolis and I was so suprised to hear how big our metro area is! I thought it was only about one million people, but it’s actually three times that
@jacobbraun12432 жыл бұрын
Lol. The city limits of Minneapolis and St. Paul alone have a combined population of 750,000. And there are layers upon layers of Suburbs in every direction and it’s expanding outward dramatically. We’re now projected to surpass 4,000,000 by 2030!
@LumpySumpPump Жыл бұрын
Actually the Combined Statistical Area for the Twin Cities is over 4 million now.
@Odm17762 жыл бұрын
Cleveland and Cincinnati have to be the most underrated cities in the country
@cpMetis2 жыл бұрын
Cincinnati is simultaneously the prettiest and most annoying to navigate for me. I'm about as far from there as Columbus but I always feel more connected with and hopeful of the latter.
@smgoodreau2 жыл бұрын
I’d include Pittsburgh and Providence in that list
@itsrainingbigmacs2 жыл бұрын
"New York City's metro area is number 1 in the whole world" Tokyo: ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT?
@FireboltPrime2 жыл бұрын
He said one of
@herschelwright46632 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a top Canadian metropolitan areas video.
@akemimizu1942 жыл бұрын
when you use a picture of San Antonio in a upcoming video, would be nice to see a newer picture of the skyline.
@GeographyKing2 жыл бұрын
I'm at the mercy of creative commons photos. You'd think there'd be better ones to choose from, but it's not always the case.
@TheAnomics12 жыл бұрын
By 2030 I assume DFW and Chicago will be Megacitys
@silentopinion Жыл бұрын
Thanks for clarifying that the numbers might be off. The metro population of Las Vegas is actually closer to 2,900,000.
@Earth1218 Жыл бұрын
The population growth of metro Las Vegas is wild. Back in 2000, it was approaching Omaha’s size. Now it’s as big as metro St. Louis. I wonder how long it will be before it’s a top ten metro.
@Judah_76 Жыл бұрын
You forgot to add that the Philly metro region also extends into Maryland and connects with the Baltimore Metro area (Northeastern part of the state).
@davidgcornett2 жыл бұрын
This takes me back to my high school economics class. I was sitting next to a large US map, and as the teacher droned on, I'd try to identify the MSAs > 1M for each state.
@jimcvca2 жыл бұрын
Hey, Kyle! Loved hearing about the metro areas over 1 million. Using Consolidated Statistical Areas is the best way to approach this, so I'm glad you did it that way. However, you missed one metro area...San Juan, Puerto Rico. It's metro population in the 2020 census was 2,350,126.
@jonathandaffron17812 жыл бұрын
Small correction, Durham and Raleigh are usually clumped together because of proximity, but they are actually part of different metro areas, Durham-Chapel Hill and Raleigh-Cary metro areas respectively.
@vj52252 жыл бұрын
Great video and commentary! My Area made it at #26 and your numbers seem to be pretty on par to what I've seen. Saying hello from the Sacramento Area.
@maxwilliams30852 жыл бұрын
You said you had a methodology of defining a metro area that's different from the Census Bureau's, what is that methodology? Because the Census Bureau has Chicago at 9.6 million people and still growing slightly, whereas you have Chicago at 9.2 million and shrinking
@brianarbenz72062 жыл бұрын
The Census Bureau includes either an enitre county in the Metro Area, or none of it. I'm guessing Kyle is including the parts of outlying counties that are genuinely urbanized from the rural portions, and including only the urbanized parts. I should let him speak, but that's my theory.
@rguest20092 жыл бұрын
Yeah he also gave Milwaukee a ton of population and given the fact Kenosha county wi (on the county line) is considered Chicago metro in all counts and Racine County Wi on in the CSA counts.
@twilightcitystudios2 жыл бұрын
I have to agree with you Max, because the info I found also had the Chicago metro population at around 9.6 million. Yes the info I found also had it slightly growing and not shrinking as well. My sources include Census Reporter, Wikipedia, WBEZ, Chicago Sun Times, and ABC 7. This video as far as I'm concerned at the moment is not accurate when it comes to Chicago. Also makes me question how he got the sources for the other cities as well. I to would like to know his methodology. It would be nice if he said what that was or provided citations to that methodology.
@the_chandler2 жыл бұрын
I'm the kind of guy who lives for this kind of stuff, so...I was shocked, flat-out SHOCKED when Chicago came up at #4. I saw it, and it gave my brain a little tingle when I figured out I was going to learn something new. I've always thought of it as 1. NY, 2. LA, 3. Chicago and 4...well it depends. I never thought that the DC metro would pass Chicago, but here we are.
@JacobKlippenstein2 жыл бұрын
This man totally messed up Chicago's metro numbers. Even if you count Kenosha in Milwaukee's metro instead of Chicago, Chicago metro is not losing population... People just love to hate on Chicago whether or not it was intentional.
@GeographyKing2 жыл бұрын
Growth since 2010 doesn't mean current growth. Most of the growth was in the early 2010s. It's the same for Pittsburgh or Los Angeles County.
@braydonthegreat50992 жыл бұрын
I love your Kool Moe Dee album sitting in the back
@tuxfeline62292 жыл бұрын
Nice job. You show a deep understanding of Metro areas. Some lists don't count Akron in the Cleveland Metro area although at least 10% work in other area and there is direct buses between them.
@davidfrania89902 жыл бұрын
It's only a matter of time, but I see the metros of Cincinnati and Dayton/Springfield becoming one big metro. I visit there once a year and every year I see them growing ever closer together.
@BIFC2162 жыл бұрын
Thats never going to happen
@michaelbrantley59412 жыл бұрын
It’s definitely happening
@jasonwilliams41592 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see border metro area include their neighbors like Ciudad Juárez or Tijuana and see how many spots it goes down the list.
@JVR108932 жыл бұрын
Add Toronto to Buffalo's metro as well.
@jrf11302 жыл бұрын
I have seen metro Detroit include Windsor and Essex county on several lists.
@FeltonHM2 жыл бұрын
@@JVR10893 toronto is really far from buffalo. it would be like connecting detroit and cleveland. you could add st. catharines to buffalo though
@TimScottSuiGeneris2 жыл бұрын
Kool Moe Dee? Bonus points for cool nostalgia hip hop.✊🏿💪🏾
@wadeoden84642 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another fun video Kyle! The nerdy perspective is much appreciated, as is the Kool Moe Dee in the background :)
@isaacbakan12952 жыл бұрын
Something I find amazing about Miami, the general metro population is that it's the huge densely populated area. But that is stays incredibly densely populated almost along its who border with the everglades where almost no one lives whatsoever. If you look at a population density map you'll be astonished. As you go further North it fades more gradually into much less but still decently populated areas, but the South of the Miami metro area is really an incredible phenomena.
@OldRustySteele Жыл бұрын
Hi Isaac, Yes, due to the Everglades, it’s difficult for Miami to grow westward since it would be massively expensive to drain the swamps. The other elongated north-south US urban area is Seattle. With Puget Sound on the west and the Cascade Mountains to the immediate east, the Greater Seattle area sprawls N to S with only 2 freeways going through. Makes for some bad traffic for sure.
@mintberrycrunch17522 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on the tallest building in each state?
@roccobierman49852 жыл бұрын
Chicago and Milwaukee should practically be considered one at this point. There is contiguous infratructure between them, and commuter trains that run daily between them as tens of thousands of people who live in both city areas go back and forth every day.
@christophermckay70822 жыл бұрын
Thanks - very interesting in light of the fact that I learnt some of this stuff in my teens - 60s now. Times have changed!
@kingsledge2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for including Omaha, NE. I was bummed out when I saw they fell short of 1M for 2020. I thought for sure they would hit it.
@anerexicsumo55122 жыл бұрын
i think we did hit it, some say 990+ some say 1.058M
@albtckl2 жыл бұрын
Just curious, why do you want the population to be over a million? I'd personally be more happy if my area was UNDER the million mark. I don't like being suffocated by people.
@kingsledge2 жыл бұрын
@@albtcklHonestly, it's probably an inferiority complex. A lot of Nebraskans in Lincoln and Omaha hate the "nothing but corn" stereotype. Hate being called a flyover state. And Hate being ignored on the national level. Having a metro in the state over 1 million feels like we're actually being put on the map
@ronhorne50792 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the good presentation. just wondering if using your method you achieve better proximity to the rank size rule than the official calculation? perhaps you can touch on the distribution pattern in a future video using the new data.
@thatmichiganguy2 жыл бұрын
They're all interesting places. So far, Atlanta has been my favorite city to visit!
@janejones76382 жыл бұрын
I love Atlanta as long as I don't have to drive in rush hour traffic.
@thatmichiganguy2 жыл бұрын
@@janejones7638 Yes, Atlanta's traffic is insane.
@wwsciffsww37482 жыл бұрын
When I moved from Atlanta to Houston (also noted for horrendous traffic), I was surprised to see that rush hour did not go from 4-8 PM each day. That's when I realized how bad Atlanta traffic is.
@ConallMcNelis2 жыл бұрын
Kyle you are the best man! Can't say enough how much I love all of your videos. Always some useful and fascinating info. Keep up the good work.
@GeographyKing2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@cobalt86192 жыл бұрын
I could of sworn Chicago Metro gained population, especially since the city gained about 50,000 over the past decade
@maxwilliams30852 жыл бұрын
It grew faster than six of the metros on here, although it still grew pretty slowly
@TheAnomics12 жыл бұрын
Yeah it did grow actually, this Pop count is slightly off. Chicago metro actually has 9.5million
@brennanc43212 жыл бұрын
The Baltimore DC metro is the most convoluted, you'll have exurbs disconnected by 50 miles of farmland counted as as being in the metro, it's pretty much code for where people commute to the DC for governmental jobs. They count alot of central PA, Western Maryland beyond Frederick MD and Eastern WVA.
@scottl66652 жыл бұрын
I’ve lived on the MD side of the DC metro area for 38 of my 40 years and I’m my lifetime, I’ve seen this area explode in population and it continues to do so. Yet everyone still works in or near DC/Baltimore so the roads are stacked.
@CommentLikeDescribe2 жыл бұрын
Not sure how they will deal with all the sunbelt refugees in 50 years, but the Rust Belt will save us all.
@jonr65582 жыл бұрын
Yep!
@supremeleader94402 жыл бұрын
White.
@jonr65582 жыл бұрын
The Detroit comeback is here, the city should be joining the metro area in gaining population in the next census as you said!!
@davidmollard98322 жыл бұрын
Wish st Louis would have one
@adambenedict61552 жыл бұрын
I agree. I think Detroit is going to make a comeback!
@mostbestjia6272 жыл бұрын
I see geoking uploads, I click.
@MyName-sk8wl8 ай бұрын
Where do you draw the line for what is part of each metro area? I ask because I’ve been to some of these more rural areas that are considered part of the same metro yet they have miles of single lane highways and fields between each small town and are bunched together, yet more populated areas that go from city to city get divided or not counted towards the metro area, great video btw I really enjoyed it 😌
@bicknell67 Жыл бұрын
I live in San Antonio and I love my city and your right nobody talks about us here.
@brianarbenz72062 жыл бұрын
At my job, I am a statistical clerk for the U.S. Census Bureau. You're welcome, Kyle! With that said, let me (to comply with the policy on employees using social media), add that I am not representing the Census Bureau is this comment post. I'm posting in my off duty personal life.
@brianarbenz72062 жыл бұрын
And I love statistics and maps. Have since I was a kid, so this means as much to me the person as the Census employee. I enjoyed this.
@michael.davides2 жыл бұрын
The Census bureau isn't good enough for this man. He's got his own methodology for calculating metropolitan areas. Kyle don't mess around.
@BIFC2162 жыл бұрын
The census has a political agenda
@brianarbenz72062 жыл бұрын
@@BIFC216 Would you care to produce some meaningful (as in not talking points from some ideaological group) evidence to back up that rather shrill claim?
@nothat0therguy9922 жыл бұрын
I really didn't expect the Grand Rapids area to appear on this list, but it did. To me it's insane it jumped up to 1.2 million, considering that just 10 years ago it barely cracked 1 million. But then again going through the area its pretty obvious that it's absolutely exploding
@bruisedfrog2 жыл бұрын
I just hate that Muskegon is tacked on to the GR numbers. Nobody from here would ever say we're close enough to GR for this to make sense
@michaelanders6161 Жыл бұрын
Kyle, this looks like a lot of compilation work, so thanks. ....but, you entirely skipped St. Louis metro area, which in 2022 should have slotted in right behind Milwaukie, at about 2.21 million. Did St. Louis do something to be blacklisted? 😉
@xdanbo18592 жыл бұрын
I could be wrong but it seems like MSA and CSA are getting mixed up on this list.
@michaelcoughlin30132 жыл бұрын
With Chicago and Milwaukee being so close together, there will be a time when these two areas merge. It'll be a very good size conglomerate, with growth perhaps around 15 million people. The Chicago msa includes Kenosha county Wisconsin.
@rguest20092 жыл бұрын
Kenosha county is Chicago in both msa and csa. Racine is part of Milwaukee only in the csa and not the msa counts.
@michaelcoughlin30132 жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing out my error. I just transposed those two counties. I edited my comment.
@fehzorz2 жыл бұрын
High speed rail between the two would do that (you could easily work in Downtown Milwaukee and live in Downtown Chicago) but I don't see that happening
@rguest20092 жыл бұрын
@@fehzorz Would be a good idea for Milwaukee. Maybe not so much Chicago.
@trongriffinproductions7159 Жыл бұрын
@@rguest2009 Why not Chicago? Chicago mayor and Illinois officials are the people who want high speed rail. Wisconsin officials are the ones against it. High speed rail would bring in billions to the city of Chicago and the state of Illinois. I have read several studies on Midwest high speed rail and Chicago and Illinois would benefit the most financially.
@JhonnyBoi2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for including Baltimore with DC 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@jnyerere2 жыл бұрын
I've yearned for this ever since I found out the distance between Dallas & Fort Worth.
@stanfordsweird46072 жыл бұрын
New people moving into the Wasatch front passes the amount of people being born there recently, interesting.
@jbrandan56052 жыл бұрын
Good video, but your info regarding the Pittsburgh metro is incorrect. Three counties in the metro have gained population since 2010: Allegheny (which contains the city of Pittsburgh), Butler, and Washington.
@pghrpg40652 жыл бұрын
You beat me to it. Allegheny County gained population for the first time since the 1970 Census. I was hoping Pittsburgh would turn the corner too, but it didn't.
@GeographyKing2 жыл бұрын
I believe they have gained from the 2010 census but have decreased in the past few years. Similar to Los Angeles county, New York state, Connecticut, New Jersey, Alaska and others.
@jbrandan56052 жыл бұрын
@@pghrpg4065 At least the City of Pittsburgh lost very few people over the past decade, so hopefully by 2030 that trend does finally reverse within the city limits also.
@jbrandan56052 жыл бұрын
@@GeographyKing thanks for the reply
@mushroomsteve2 жыл бұрын
Some metros extend into other countries, such as San Diego- Tijuana, El Paso-Ciudad Juarez and Detroit-Windsor. What is your take on these and whether those international urban areas should be considered part of the same metro?
@tylerlynn96802 жыл бұрын
Just for the San Diego - Tijuana metro area it would be around 6 million, so its fair to so say they should be connected.
@mushroomsteve2 жыл бұрын
@@tylerlynn9680 Agreed.
@Voyager25252 жыл бұрын
How many people commute between the countries for work, or on a regular basis? If it's only a small percentage, then they are separate metros, no matter how close they are.
@tylerlynn96802 жыл бұрын
@@Voyager2525 I used to work for a grocery store in northern San Diego and several chefs drove from Tijuana every day. The store I currently work for has a family where half their family is in San Diego and half in Tijuana and they all drive down there all the time. I can't even imagine what are the commute numbers are like closer to the border.
@joshuaalfaro47812 жыл бұрын
@@tylerlynn9680 They are in seperate countries
@danielgreen15572 жыл бұрын
@geographyking for number 38 you have Greensboro, North Carolina. There is a problem however, the picture is actually a part of Tysons corner. Tysons corner is in Fairfax in northern Virginia, being a part of the DMV. in fact Tysons corner mall is where the first apple store is (that's the one I go to when I have computer trouble ;) ) and it has the first L.L. Bean store that was outside of Maine.
@JamesBond-er1hk2 жыл бұрын
The Dallas building that is a ball. U can go inside of it and there's a resturuant that has a rotating floor. So while u eat, you can watch the sights.
@bruisedfrog2 жыл бұрын
The only thing that I know of that connects Muskegon and Grand Rapids is the census data. I've never understood that because we're just too far apart without any real connection to each other.
@PaulThomas-ii5nj2 жыл бұрын
The main criteria the US Census uses to determine whether a smaller county should be included in with the larger county metro is the amount of influence the larger county, or city, has over the smaller one. Influence mainly being that of what percentage of people from county B commutes to county A for employment.
@cougarsstudios2 жыл бұрын
Speaking as someone from the east side of Michigan, I thought that was a bit of a stretch too. It’s like including Flint as a suburb of Detroit. Flint is close, yes, but not a suburb. We’ll gladly claim Ann Arbor for Detroit tho lolz 😂
@GeographyNuts2 жыл бұрын
Tulsa is a surprise to me. I thought it much smaller. Thanks
@Cal30002 жыл бұрын
Los Angeles and San Diego are basically almost one. The Marine base is the only thing causing a small dead zone between the two areas. It's a shorter drive from the base of Orange County to San Diego County than from Orange County to Los Angeles.
@BrittonJOrwin Жыл бұрын
Are you including other cities outside of Salt Lake County in order to get the Salt Lake metro area above 2,000,000 residents? I was under the impression that Salt Lake County had in between 1,000,000 and 2,000,000 residents in it. I know you said you included cities from outside the counties the cities were in. I guess I’m wondering what are you defining as the Salt Lake metro area?
@peterjamesfoote3964 Жыл бұрын
This was fascinating. It remains to be seen how Chicago’s metropolitan area will change over time. The advantage of the entire Great Lakes is their supply of an enormous amount of fresh water. It remains to be seen how this will play out In upcoming decades.
@ryanvandy1615 Жыл бұрын
Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio etc will all fare pretty well if drought continues to get worse in the coming decades.
@georgefox10552 жыл бұрын
You included Greenville/Spartanburg Metro area, that includes all 8 counties in the upstate, including Greenwood, which is over 65 miles from Greenville. You failed to include the Harrisburg Metro area, which doesn't include Lancaster County. This Metro area does include Dauphin, Lebanon, Cumberland, Perry and York counties, all bordering Harrisburg, with a population of 1,217,679 as of 2019, and this area, unlike most of Pennsylvania is growing.
@moonflick2 жыл бұрын
Love the video and love your content generally, but I have a slight quibble with the separation of the SF Bay Area and Stockton - Modesto. The census bureau does combine them, and this is because of the huge commuter population between these cities and (primarily) Silicon Valley. Hey, your video your rules so no hate here, just saying.
@timwolfers78802 жыл бұрын
I just decided that your videos need a theme song at the intro. "I've Been Everywhere" is the perfect song! What say you Mr. King?🤔